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I can see where an "ignore" button can have a bit of a negative connotation with it. I respect the fact the topic has been considered by the powers to be and it has been decides against imlimentation. An ignore button can be used as a bit of a power trip, "I'm going to ignore you!!!"

I offer for your consideration "The Hide" button!!! {{intentional pause for applause to quiet down}}

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

You see where an ignore button is a button of revenge or passive aggression, a hide button is simply the cyber equivalent of turning yourself into an ostrich! You see something you don't like or don't want to see, go Hide! Burry your head in the cyber sand and you can peacefully hide from whatever you want! We can all still see you, but you can't see which ones of us you don't want to!!

"Don't be a bore and ignore, go hide with pride!"

This will be available on The Jr board coming the summer of 2015 or 16/17-ish, it's a moving target at this time!

  1. In the inimitable words of GWB, you can run, but you can't hide....
    But on Facebook, you can at least "unfriend". I don't do FB, but I know of some who were unfriended.

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    1. re: Veggo

      You can also "poke" on Facebook, shall I propose a "pinch" feature on chow?

      1. re: jrvedivici

        Eeww...I don't connect internet with tactile...but I don't mind scud missiles landing in my spam box....

    2. You seem to be assuming that the use of the ignore button would involve telling the person being ignored that they are being ignored. I never imagined that would be the case.

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      1. re: carolinadawg

        I'm not making any assumption, I'm trying to take a more palatable approach to a topic which the site hasn't deemed necessary. Perhaps by attacking it from another angle it might give the powers to be a different perspective. Again been though I don't personally support the idea I'm not apposed to trying to help those who do find a happy medium.

        1. re: jrvedivici

          Nonsensical. You said the ignore button would be negative or revenge in nature. If the person doesn't know the button has been implemented, then it's not possible for them to have a negative feeling about it. "Palatable" isn't an issue.

          1. re: carolinadawg

            Perhaps Chow feels an ignore feature would be a power trip for people. (I'm reaching at straws as to why they are against the idea) So my thought process was if you were to reverse it perhaps they would find it a more gentle feature. Attacking the same problem from a different approach. That's all.

            1. re: jrvedivici

              From what was posted, it doesn't sound like they're against it. It's just not a priority. If no one knows that they're being "ignored," I don't know how it could be a put down.

        2. re: carolinadawg

          Of course that's the case. An ignore button that tells one they are being ignored is the only polite way to tell someone to go f themself without saying go f yourself.

          1. re: Veggo

            That's your assumption. Mine is that the person being ignored wouldn't know it. Many others have stated that's how it's done on other boards.

            1. re: carolinadawg

              Totally. An example can be that if you're 'unfriended' on FB, you don't realize it right away or at all. No big deal for the one being "ignored."

              1. re: c oliver

                I can tell when I'm being ignored, it's like my 7th sense.

                1. re: jrvedivici

                  I can be comfortably ignored when I'm in either of my hammocks. But when I'm being gang-tackled, I'm aware.

                  1. re: jrvedivici

                    Same here. I'll give a Facebook example. I have an ex from a long time ago on there who has not only de-friended me, but also blocked me. I've caught on by this fact that when he posts to someone's status that I am friends with and there response is "Pete......." And I see no previous response from Pete, I know I've been blocked. Do I care? Not at all. But I know.

                    1. re: SaraAshley

                      Were you stalking him?

                      1. re: justxpete

                        Not at all. There is no logical reason for him doing this. In fact, I rejected him. And further more, this is a guy that when we were friends on fb, would post multiple passive aggressive statuses about me, without actually naming me.

                      2. re: SaraAshley

                        Why do you care who reads you or not?

                        1. re: c oliver

                          I don't. I just think it makes for better discussion that all posts be viewable and that we choose what we want to ignore ourselves by not responding.

                          1. re: SaraAshley

                            And how does having an "ignore" button keep YOU from having what you want?

                            1. re: c oliver

                              The ignore button is not harmless to a site. It can make the conversation flow very much effected for everyone.

                              For example, If I am ignoring you but not saraAshley and Sara quotes you in her post to me, I don't know who she is quoting. I can't see you. I have to ask her what she is talking about. I can't *see* the entire conversation. Then someone else can join in the conversation, who might be ignoring Sara...they respond to my post, wondering WTF?

                              Not just a use it or not, no harm issue. I would imagine that is why this site is not jumping on the bandwagon for this feature right away. It might be fine, but it might really be bad.

                              1. re: sedimental

                                FB seems to exist inspite of the feature.

                                1. re: c oliver

                                  Apples and oranges.
                                  That is not anything like this. You can't even post directly to each other in FB, all the posts are directly under each other.

                                  1. re: sedimental

                                    I agree, while using Facebook as an example of an "ignore" feature (I actually think is is called blocking on there not ignore) is a fair comparison comparing Facebook and Chow is not at all.

                                  2. re: c oliver

                                    As do all the sites that use the Invision board software.

                                    Lets look at the positive side. There are a handful of posters that drive me nuts. If I wasn't able to see their posts I'd be less tempted reply to their posts negatively.

                                    Better for the board, less work for the mods, better for me.

                                  3. re: sedimental

                                    CH doesn't even have a quote ability so that argument is moot. Additionally, every single forum I've been on that has ignore, also has quote and the ignore function doesn't block quotes from people on your ignore list. Much to my chagrin. So again, moot point.

                                    1. re: rasputina

                                      Psssst -- the word moot means subject to debate, arguable, questionable.

                                      I think that's what's going on here. But you can never be too sure....

                                      1. re: linguafood

                                        Actually, Rasputina used the phrase the way most people do.

                                        UsingEnglish.com -

                                        Idiom Definitions for 'Moot point'
                                        If something's a moot point, there's some disagreement about it: a debatable point. In the U.S., this expression usually means that there is no point in debating something, because it just doesn't matter. An example: If you are arguing over whether to go the beach or to the park, but you find out the car won't start and you can't go anywhere, then the destination is said to be a moot point.

                                        Urban Dictionary -

                                        A moot point is an expression meaning that something doesn't matter so there is no point for debate because of certain circumstances. It is either irrelevant/not worth arguing over.

                                        1. re: Bob Martinez

                                          I know. But just b/c most people use the term incorrectly doesn't make it right, no?

                                          I'm not a native speaker, so perhaps I pay more attention to these things :-)

                                          1. re: linguafood

                                            "But just b/c most people use the term incorrectly doesn't make it right, no?"
                                            _____
                                            Kinda does, actually.

                                            (anyway it's not incorrect. 'Moot' refers originally to a sort of practice debate. The older sense of the word refers to the debatable nature of the subject at hand. The more common and more modern sense of the word refers to the debate's ineffectuality in changing anything. Which dovetails nicely with.... well, most of this thread, for starters)

                                            1. re: cowboyardee

                                              Da more ya know!

                                      2. re: rasputina

                                        Allow me to show my ignorance (or age!) and say I have no idea what a "quote ability" is.

                                        1. re: c oliver

                                          On Invision boards there's a built in quote feature. By responding to a post you can embed the post you're responding to into your reply in a graphical box. If the post is long you can edit it so only the part of it that's the subject of your response appears.

                                          The quote shows the name of the poster and the date and time of the post.

                                          It's a useful feature that makes it easier to follow a thread.

                                          1. re: Bob Martinez

                                            Thanks. I just copy and then post the quote (in quotes of course). That would be easier.

                                        2. re: rasputina

                                          "CH doesn't even have a quote ability so that argument is moot."

                                          Not really.

                                          1. re: sedimental

                                            It could be that your confusion is due to the fact that you don't know how the Ignore feature works on Invision boards. Here's your original objection -
                                            --------------------------------------------------------------
                                            "The ignore button is not harmless to a site. It can make the conversation flow very much effected for everyone.

                                            For example, If I am ignoring you but not saraAshley and Sara quotes you in her post to me, I don't know who she is quoting. I can't see you. "
                                            --------------------------------------------------------------

                                            If you have someone on Ignore on an Invision board their posts will appear, to you and everyone, if a second poster quotes them. Otherwise they're invisible only to you, not other people.

                                            And yes, the fact that CH doesn't have a Quote feature does, in fact, make this a non issue as far as Quoting is concerned unless the CH engineers add this ability.

                        2. re: Veggo

                          They don't get a notice that they've been ignored, just like on Facebook, and other forums.

                          It's just a button you click, and you no longer see there posts by default. That's all that happens. No one is slighted by the act.

                          1. re: justxpete

                            See if a clown car drove up to the being ignored's home, a dozen clowns got out, rang your door bell, hit the to be ignored with a cream pie to the face, then each punched the person in the gut while yelling "YOU'RE IGNORED" I would totally support that!

                            1. re: jrvedivici

                              good point

                      3. I find this thread hysterical. Thanks y'all!

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                        1. re: gaffk

                          And judging from the 100 replies in one day, I'm not the only one.

                          1. re: gaffk

                            No you are not!

                        2. I have another idea for CH: make it a two lane Chowhound highway. Put well mannered people in one lane for civilized discourse, put potty mouthed bitches and assholes in the other for their demolition derbies.

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                          1. re: Veggo

                            Hey, I think it has been mentioned before...that there should be a "free for all" board with no mod involvement.

                            I think that would be entertaining for about a day. Then, not so much.

                            1. re: sedimental

                              But it just might attract the miscreants like flypaper.

                              1. re: Veggo

                                It might kill off the NAF board.

                                1. re: sedimental

                                  Or jam it!

                            2. re: Veggo

                              Ah, but who decides which hounds go to which lanes? I'm sure there are posters I find overly chatty/underly informative bitches and assholes who are convinced they are well-mannered and civilized.

                              1. re: gaffk

                                We all get to vote for 3 civilized hounds and 3 demolition derbyists. Chem will tally it up for us. Democracy in action!

                                1. re: Veggo

                                  Sounds like a plan! In the case of ties, do we just throw those Hounds out or does Chem get to be the tie-breaker?

                                  1. re: gaffk

                                    Ties for civilized hounds are all in. Ties for derbyists go to the guillotine.

                                    1. re: Veggo

                                      Wait, you mean we don't get to vote? I hear voting is all the rage on CH these days. -21, -2, 2, 8...you know let the masses decide. Self moderation...

                                      1. re: HillJ

                                        You missed my post above, of course we all vote! This is a democracy! Queen bees do not rule the world!

                                        1. re: Veggo

                                          I did indeed. We all..now there's a concept.

                                          1. re: HillJ

                                            And after we vote, we drink good wine and eat good cheese and celebrate victory!

                                            1. re: Veggo

                                              Wine and cheese really don't work for me, can we do vodka and veal? The 3-V's!!!

                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                4 V's.

                                              2. re: Veggo

                                                Yessssssssssss I want cheese and wine.

                                                1. re: SaraAshley

                                                  And you may have it, my dear!

                                                2. re: Veggo

                                                  I'm not so sure I'd be voted to victory . . . can I just have a shot and a beer with the requisite cocktail peanuts?

                                      2. re: Veggo

                                        Chem is a great choice, I know he can be bought!

                                        1. re: jrvedivici

                                          Easy. I know the backstory on Chem.

                                          1. re: Veggo

                                            The Victory dance should be included somewhere!

                                            1. re: HillJ

                                              The 4th V. Unless we want to move on to 5....:)

                                            2. re: Veggo

                                              What? What? What? I just like to cover my bases. Keep it clean.....

                                            3. re: jrvedivici

                                              This may be the coup the cookware board has been waiting for. You are playing into our hands.

                                              Best start learning to sharpen your knives, mother******s.

                                              1. re: cowboyardee

                                                Okay NOW I'm laughing.

                                      3. Judging from some of the replies here, it seems like a difficult concept to grasp.

                                        Ignore and hide, to me, is identical. It's pretty apparent that the people who seem to be most worried about this possibility are the ones who fear their precious contributions won't be seen by the posters they target and bait with each childish post they burp onto the boards.

                                        Makes ya wonder if there isn't enough booze to go around to sedate themselves and perhaps make them more bearable for the rest of us who are mostly here to discuss food, and who don't care about making every single thread about some butt-hurt poster's personality.

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                                        1. re: linguafood

                                          Hide/Ignore is the exact same objective just from two opposite approaches. My thinking as stated somewhere above is perhaps the powers to be here at chow would find a "hide" feature to be kinder and gentler than an ignore feature.

                                          As justxpete the OP of one of the other Ignore threads admits; "But ignoring the trolls requires SO MUCH willpower. It's Damn near impossible. Haha." I too agree it is just a matter of willpower. I guess it's much easier to click a button which allows you not to have to exert the willpower required to ignore a post or poster.

                                          As an experiment I have conducted some preliminary tests on an ignore/hide button on my own. While not very scientific in its core the results are undeniable.

                                          I have taken a 4"x4" yellow sticky pad and I have drawn a red button on the center of it. I carefully colored it in evenly and I clearly labeled it across the top HIDE BUTTON. Since I have created this button every time I now see a post I don't want to read, I push the button and magically, I don't read it!!! I have only been working with it for the past 48 hours but it has a 100% success rate. If this continues through Tuesday I will offer my Hide Button FREE to any chows who request one. Perhaps this will help fill the void until Chow comes up with something more official.

                                          1. re: jrvedivici

                                            It has absolutely nothing to do with willpower.

                                            It's like changing the channel on the teevee -- people who prefer quality programming over Duck Dynasty won't have to read the umpteenth immature reference to someone's sexual hangups or their latest paranoid diatribe because the voices in their heads tell them so.

                                            But whatever. Some fine day, TPTB will decide one way or the other, and until then we're left with *literally* ignoring the crazy. It's doable, if tiresome.

                                            1. re: linguafood

                                              Do you want to be put on the list for my free hide button? I can customize yours, "Fucking Hide This Shit Button". (Please don't let it get out I'm doing custom orders)

                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                Fuck yeah.

                                            2. re: jrvedivici

                                              You're taking that post out of context. Not appreciated.

                                              1. re: justxpete

                                                Sorry I don't really see it out of context I included your "haha" as an indication you were being rather tongue and cheek about it. Regardless of its context I agree with it, that's the point being made here.

                                                Not sure what context it was taken out of, but regardless I agree, sorry.

                                                1. re: jrvedivici

                                                  Sorry. Right you are. I misinterpreted your post. I was watching the hockey game and got distracted. Oops.

                                                  1. re: justxpete

                                                    Lol no problem! Would you like to be added to my new Hide Button reservation list?

                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                      I want one, but only if you make mine pink with sparkles!

                                                      1. re: SaraAshley

                                                        See! Lingua told you didn't she! How can I say no to you Ms. Sara!

                                                      2. re: jrvedivici

                                                        Hells yeah!!!

                                                        1. re: justxpete

                                                          You got it!

                                              2. re: linguafood

                                                Scintillating.

                                                1. re: linguafood

                                                  I found it interesting that you mentioned "booze".

                                                  My (uneducated) guess is that the person who cannot bypass that open bottle of vodka is somehow related to the person who cannot skim over (or mentally "delete) an offensive post.

                                                  Not a mental health professional, but both personalities seem to be a bit ...compulsive (?).

                                                  Perhaps if there are any mental health professionals on chowhound they could clarify.

                                                  OK then...back to cooking.....

                                                  1. re: pedalfaster

                                                    "My (uneducated) guess is that the person who cannot bypass that open bottle of vodka is somehow related to the person who cannot skim over (or mentally "delete) an offensive post."

                                                    Oh come on!!! This is MY own thread! You can't have the decency to pretend to talk about me behind my back?

                                                    Geeze!!!

                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                      If it makes you feel any better...all of those jokes about auntie sipping the cooking wine are most likely about me.

                                                    2. re: pedalfaster

                                                      "Uneducated" is correct.

                                                      1. re: justxpete

                                                        if you are offering, I'm game.

                                                        I would ~love~ to get my MFA.

                                                        Let me know, and I will set up the payment plan,.

                                                      2. re: pedalfaster

                                                        I'd hazard a guess that it's the non-bottle passer who's the offending poster person :)

                                                        1. re: c oliver

                                                          F'n sobers! They are the root of all evils!

                                                        2. re: pedalfaster

                                                          I'd say it's a combination of lack of boundaries, alcohol problems, sexual hang-ups and paranoid delusions.

                                                          Some people find that fascinating or.... hmmm, can't come up with another term right now.

                                                          Lemme get back to you on that.

                                                          ETA: The word I was looking for was 'pathetic'. Yes, that's it. Crybabies just never held much fascination for me :-D

                                                          1. re: linguafood

                                                            Hitting "recommend" isn't enough. You said it the best on either thread.

                                                      3. MEM-ries...LIKE THE CORNERS OF MY MIIIIIIIIIIND....

                                                        1. Mods...you are clearly ALL OVER the banter on this thread. Which begs the question...where are you when the Ontario board is being smothered in chit-chat and sniping? Seriously? That's what started the thread that spawned this one. This has been an illuminating exercise indeed.

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                                                          1. re: Wahooty

                                                            Nah, there's still plenty of *friendly* chatter left. Looks like the only posts that were cleaned up were the veiled (and not so much) personal attacks.

                                                            1. re: linguafood

                                                              I had some deleted that were friendly chatter, following several levels of same, left intact until an hour ago. Collateral damage? Perhaps. But while I definitely value the (underappreciated) job the mods do (no really, I do - thankless work that is)...I do feel like enforcement is...uneven. I don't need an ignore button, but I do need someone to remind some people that this is not their personal sandbox (or FB feed) like they used to, ad revenue be damned. I would do a case-to-case comparison if that were within the rules, but I do know how to play. Even if I do have my unruly moments. ;)

                                                              1. re: Wahooty

                                                                I think the point worth making is that many, many of us have our unruly and off color and impatient moments. The whole us vs them thing really is a waste of time.

                                                                1. re: HillJ

                                                                  Comme ci, comme ca. I get that that is the point being made in this thread. I have my fun on the general boards, but I cut my CH teeth on Ontario and still lurk there. It is truly sad what it has become. Too few people have been willing to speak out, and my personal frustration has vented itself as fairly innocent (but off-topic) snark on this thread.

                                                                  Whatever, it was fun while it lasted. ;)

                                                                2. re: Wahooty

                                                                  The funny thing is that the way this thread played out in the end is a *perfect* example of how much less work the mods would have if a few posters could ignore each other.

                                                                  The discussion on the other thread on this topic claimed that it would make a discussion seem non-sensical or choppy. If anyone followed *this* thread here, it's become quite obvious that it is the same posters attacking one another, which is of zero value to anyone using this site.

                                                                  1. re: linguafood

                                                                    And I might argue (if I were the arguing sort) that it's a perfect example of how moderation can remove the sort of thing for everyone that an ignore button removes for one. I once had someone attack me for something someone else said, that said attacker falsely attributed to me. I no longer remember who it was or what it was about, because there is no longer a public record of it, and I have moved on. If I chose to use an ignore button, that person could slag me to anyone that wants to read, and I would have no opportunity to refute or report it because I would never see it.

                                                                    I honestly don't care. If they institute an ignore button, I doubt I will use it. I just don't think it solves the issues that those calling for it think it will.

                                                                    But wait...I'm off-topic again. This thread is supposed to be about HIDING.

                                                                    1. re: Wahooty

                                                                      Thank you very much!

                                                                    2. re: linguafood

                                                                      The thread started out nonsensical. In fact when I first read it the other day I was sure it had to be an attempt at a joke and ignored it.

                                                                      1. re: rasputina

                                                                        If only everyone on this site could do what you did regarding this thread.

                                                                        It didn't interest you, so you ignored it and moved on. Easy.

                                                                        1. re: SaraAshley

                                                                          So posting a comment on a thread now constitutes ignoring it. Interesting.

                                                                          1. re: carolinadawg

                                                                            Hi Dawg! I just want to say I hope you're having a fabulous day. And yes, Rasputina had previously ignored this thread when him/her saw that it had no interest to them.

                                                                            1. re: SaraAshley

                                                                              Thanks! I hope you are too! Ignoring a thread momentarily, but then posting on it, doesn't equal ignoring it. That would be like saying you're still on your diet because you didn't eat the cupcake the first time you saw it, but then 5 minutes later you ate it...

                                                                              1. re: carolinadawg

                                                                                Well you know I'm trying to give a little bit of credit here and being positive. I give Rasputina credit for only responding when something interested them to respond to, and not immediately responding to complain that they wish they could ignore some of the posts on this thread.

                                                                                1. re: SaraAshley

                                                                                  Well, I am ignoring this thread, responding to it, ignoring it again...then asking for a personalized hide button(that I won't use).
                                                                                  I want my button in gold with purple sequins.... please.

                                                                                  1. re: sedimental

                                                                                    I want a "button it" button that shuts other posters up when I mash down on it...

                                                                                    1. re: Servorg

                                                                                      A ball peen hammer on your keyboard will accomplish that.

                                                                                      1. re: Veggo

                                                                                        That's why I belong to Amazon Prime...otherwise the shipping charges for new keyboards would have bankrupted me long ago...

                                                              2. The problem is that we have users that use CH as their social media. Thread after thread after thread. It's impossible to ignore after a while, and we shouldn't have to. So many countless useless posts does not make for an enjoyable experience. But yes, let's hide them too.

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                                                                1. re: justxpete

                                                                  IMO, you really hit the nail on the head. If it's your social media, then it's likely you're going to be off-topic whereas if you have a 'real' social media outlet, you get your 'fix' that way and it doesn't carry over at all or much on CH.

                                                                2. jr, my friend, I just read through this whole, . . .

                                                                  this whole, . . .

                                                                  ummm . . . ,

                                                                  ah, this whole . . . . . . . . . . . . .

                                                                  Shit, even I don't know what to call what you've spawned.

                                                                  I do know one thing about it though. It has made me think that if you are making custom buttons for 'hounds, I want one that hands me a open bottle whenever anything I post is read by a "person who cannot skim over (or mentally 'delete') an offensive post." I believe that would help even the playing field some. (I had though about asking you for a button that handed me a beer every time somebody read a linked to article, but I realized that I couldn't handle being that sober for that long. Maybe that one should give me a bag of weed?)

                                                                  Oh, and Veggo, I want the right to move between lanes at my own discretion. Perhaps you could get me a removable cherry top and siren? In return, I'd be willing to write tickets, at my sole discretion - so long as I don't have to wear a badge (I will be happy to carry handcuffs though).

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                                                                  1. re: MGZ

                                                                    Too bad you are only getting to this today, last night there was a lot more to read.

                                                                    What I've spawned is a discussion which it what discussion boards are meant for, or at least I think they are.

                                                                    I'll get my team working on the weed button for you, I'm thinking it will obviously be green and maybe activated by waiving a $20 spot in front of your monitor.

                                                                    Anyway always good to hear your comments and opinion.

                                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                      "Too bad you are only getting to this today, last night there was a lot more to read."

                                                                      I would have, but I have a real life and real friends.

                                                                      1. re: MGZ

                                                                        Ouch I felt that one here on the opposite side of Monmouth County.

                                                                        1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                          It seems that some additional pruning has occurred.

                                                                      2. re: jrvedivici

                                                                        You mean that drum circle where we all joined hands and became BFF's. Good times.

                                                                        Make my button, jr. I'm sold on the ignore feature. A born again convert cause it's pretty obvious that this request isn't about Ontario anymore.

                                                                    2. I'm signing up for a personalized button also.

                                                                      My button should make chosen posters and their contributions invisible to me, obviously. But it should also periodically respond to blocked posts from blocked posters, automatically using my account to generate a message telling them that they're wrong. Just in case they have not blocked me.

                                                                      (bonus points if the auto-generated messages also manage - while conforming to the standards of moderation on CH - to imply that said blocked posters are stupid)

                                                                      1. I think we're about done here. I'm going to lock this now.