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justxpete Feb 15, 2014 08:09 AM

There is a certain poster on the board I participate in that posts non-sensical items incessantly. In some threads, their posts constitute 50% of the thread, and it's rare that this poster posts anything even remotely useful. Often, posts are nothing more than 'smilies'. It's completely out of control, and I can't do anything about it, other than not read 90% of threads. I find myself shying away from the board more and more. It's overwhelming, and I know others feel the same.

I don't want to curb their enthusiasm, so perhaps an alternate solution exists. If you were to introduce an ignore button, I think it would help filter out a lot of the noise. Many other forums have it, and it proves a useful tool.

Is Chowhound able to implement such a tool?

  1. c oliver Feb 15, 2014 08:20 AM

    When a tread starts getting overrun with that type of posts, I report it. Are you talking about a 'button' where you wouldn't see a particular poster's posts or any threads they reply on?

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    1. re: c oliver
      justxpete Feb 15, 2014 08:24 AM

      This is a common occurrence on 'my' board. It affects most threads.

      Only that you wouldn't see their posts - not threads they reply on, entirely. Similar to how other forums implement the same.

    2. Samalicious Feb 15, 2014 08:57 AM

      There was a discussion on this topic just a week or so ago:
      We seem to be split among the Kumbaya camp, where everybody should just put up with everyone because that's what makes it fun, and the Ignore camp, where people want to customize their experience here without hurting anyone's feelings. I am with you...There are a couple of Negative Neds and Chatty Cathys that I could cheerfully ignore forever.

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      1. re: Samalicious
        justxpete Feb 15, 2014 09:06 AM

        Seems like most are in favour. I didn't see chowhound wade in on that thread, perhaps they will on this one.

        1. re: justxpete
          carolinadawg Feb 15, 2014 01:01 PM

          Here's what CH said last April. I doubt their position has changed.

          "It's been discussed and hasn't been definitively shot down, but I wouldn't say it was in the works or on our priority list of features."

          1. re: carolinadawg
            c oliver Feb 15, 2014 01:06 PM

            Thanks. I don't see why ANYONE would object to it. But certainly all programming costs money.

            1. re: c oliver
              Phil Ogelos Feb 15, 2014 06:29 PM

              I object to it, and the discussions here (the very sort of back and forth that would be handicapped by the policy) confirm my opposition.

              1. re: Phil Ogelos
                c oliver Feb 15, 2014 06:36 PM

                Why do you object please?

                1. re: c oliver
                  Phil Ogelos Feb 15, 2014 06:40 PM

                  I feel strongly about the issue -that an 'Ignore' function is a wrong-headed concession- but I want to compose a measured response, and that's not going to happen on a Saturday night. I will elaborate soon, though.

      2. SaraAshley Feb 15, 2014 02:18 PM

        Why don't you just implement your own personal "ignore button" and skim past their posts without reading them? This is what I do if something doesn't interest me. I think it's dumb to implement an ignore button on a public message board. The whole point of a message board for me is to interact with lots of different people. You never know when someone might have something substantial or helpful to offer, so I would never choose to "block" certain posters even if their was that option.

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        1. re: SaraAshley
          Veggo Feb 15, 2014 02:21 PM

          Sara, for you darlin', I wish there was a "come hither and tell me more" button....:)

          1. re: SaraAshley
            linguafood Feb 15, 2014 02:26 PM

            You are fairly new on this playground, IIRC, so you likely haven't experienced any number of posting "styles" that get quite tiresome over time. Especially when those you wish to ignore for their posting history follow you around like a puppy dog, and you know they generally don't have much to add to a discussion at hand -- at least for your own personal value.

            The sometimes cliquish, often immature back and forth between a few 'offenders' might be amusing for a while, but it gets old fast.

            Of course you can always 'try' to ignore those who bother you the most, but we're not all perfect or always good at it.

            1. re: linguafood
              SaraAshley Feb 15, 2014 02:55 PM

              I see what you're saying. I can see why someone wouldn't enjoy feeling like they were being "followed around" or targeted. That to me is a different story.

              1. re: SaraAshley
                Veggo Feb 15, 2014 02:59 PM

                It's called stalking, and it is a reportable offense. No one deserves a sociopathic curse here. We are here to enjoy the site.

                1. re: Veggo
                  linguafood Feb 15, 2014 03:50 PM

                  Yep. And having that ignore button would make the site more enjoyable for any number of posters, apparently.

                2. re: SaraAshley
                  c oliver Feb 15, 2014 03:00 PM

                  There's also lingua's comment:

                  "The sometimes cliquish, often immature back and forth between a few 'offenders' might be amusing for a while, but it gets old fast."

                  Very, very old.

                  1. re: c oliver
                    carolinadawg Feb 15, 2014 04:36 PM


                    1. re: c oliver
                      sedimental Feb 15, 2014 06:27 PM

                      But so are constantly negative posters. Sometimes it is just their personality I would guess.

                      1. re: sedimental
                        c oliver Feb 15, 2014 06:38 PM

                        And if one had the option to ignore those people, then what's the problem? And if later on one want to "un-ingnore" :) that's another option.

                        1. re: c oliver
                          sedimental Feb 15, 2014 06:43 PM

                          Yeah, I am not sure where I stand on the ignore button issue.
                          On the one hand....I have many people I wouldn't hesitate to use it on.
                          On the other hand, I think it might make the conversation disjointed, as I have experienced on other forums. It really can mess with the discussion flow and get hard to read.

                          I am not worried about anyone's feelings....including mine. It is more about continuing to have the threads readable. This effects people that choose not to use ignore as well as those who do use it.

                          1. re: sedimental
                            c oliver Feb 15, 2014 06:45 PM

                            Good points. I'd be unlikely to "ignore" at least to begin with for fear of missing some of the "wheat" to get rid of the "chaff."

                            1. re: c oliver
                              sedimental Feb 15, 2014 06:54 PM

                              Yes. But... Unfortunately, it also effects people that are not using it. It sounds like some advocates of it here, might have not been on forums that have the feature. Sometimes it is great, sometimes a disaster to a conversation.

                              When you are watching a conversation from only *some* people that can't see or "hear" each other....the conversation can look bizarre and can quickly not make sense or follow a logical track of conversation. It can look circular or nonsensical. Worse case is that others (that can see the entire conversation) start to "fill in the blanks" for the "blind"(ignored) poster. What a fucking mess that can become.

                              1. re: sedimental
                                justxpete Feb 15, 2014 06:59 PM

                                I don't agree. I've participated in many that have the feature. If a question goes unanswered, others jump in. Conversations only become disjointed when a number of people are ignoring a specific individual. There's something to be said for that.

                                1. re: sedimental
                                  c oliver Feb 15, 2014 07:01 PM

                                  I agree with you. But let me tell a bit of a story. I knew a CH who flat out told me that s/he doesn't know jack about cooking or eating out. But posts to "entertain" others. But I'm not here to be entertained. So if I could "ignore" I'd lose that 'noise' and the 'noise' that follows him/her. And if I do it and no one knows I'm doing it, then no one else need do the same. Not sure I'm clear about what I'm saying.

                                  1. re: c oliver
                                    sedimental Feb 15, 2014 07:16 PM

                                    I kind of gave an example of what I mean on the other ignore button thread.

                                    I am not against it, but I would be concerned about it effecting the conversation. Hell, people get bent out of shape when the mods delete a few posts and interrupt the flow...they get upset when a post is edited, rendering their post "hanging" out there or not relevant. Well...that ain't nothin' compared to ignored posters.

                                    Having people quote other people that are blind to you, having posters asking where THAT came from? Very interesting conversations can come from several people posting being blind to each other or being blind to different people in the same conversation....They sound ridiculous!

                                    There are enough regular posters here that just might ignore each other enough to effect how discussions look
                                    (not in a good way).

                                    It is just something to consider.

                                    1. re: sedimental
                                      MplsM ary Feb 15, 2014 07:47 PM

                                      I think you are overestimating the power of ignore. There is only one poster I wish to ignore. They bring little to any thread, but as with the example justxpete gave, this person offers no information but is just a PITA.

                                      1. re: MplsM ary
                                        sedimental Feb 15, 2014 08:25 PM

                                        Well, it is not the power of one person putting one other (PITA) person on ignore...I get that, and often wish for it ;) But, it is the collective power of many different posters and their many perceived PITA's that can make a thread sound/read really wonky. I have experienced it elsewhere. It makes posters sound idiotic at times.

                                        It might be interesting to try it for a month and see what happens before making a commitment. I have no idea how hard it is to "do and un-do" something like that on a site this big.

                                        1. re: sedimental
                                          c oliver Feb 16, 2014 04:49 AM

                                          My sense of the nonsensical :) is that those who reply to him/her are making non-CHish comments also so what's the loss?

                                          1. re: c oliver
                                            sedimental Feb 16, 2014 09:34 AM

                                            You certainly might be right about that.

                                            Once the thread has taken the "snotty turn" (as I like to think about it) it might be already pointing downward, so that if it starts looking bizarre....who cares? Might be easier for mods just to delete all the people participating in the subthread at once! Poof!

                                            1. re: sedimental
                                              c oliver Feb 16, 2014 11:18 AM


                      2. re: SaraAshley
                        jrvedivici Feb 15, 2014 03:02 PM

                        OMG Sara! What are you doing here? Imagine running into you! I can't believe this, I was just asking Veggo if he knew what you were up to! So tell me what did you have for breakfast, lunch and dinner today! I can't wait to hear all about it! Also tell me what you were wearing for each meal, your beverage and any condiments that you used! I can't wait to read all about it and imagine each bite you have taken all day!

                        I guess if you got responses like that everytime you posted you might enjoy an ignore feature. Or you know someone requesting a come hither button, all the creepy stuff. Lol

                        Please do not feel the need to respond to any of the above it was for example purposes only.

                        1. re: jrvedivici
                          SaraAshley Feb 15, 2014 04:01 PM

                          Well clearly this is a very extreme example, and I've never personally encountered, or been part of anything that extreme.

                          I'll just say that I can see why certain things annoy certain posters. Including the off-topic chit-chat. I just don't personally get annoyed by very much when it comes to the boards.

                    2. re: SaraAshley
                      Samalicious Feb 15, 2014 02:26 PM

                      For some people it's interacting with a lot of people, for other people it is not. Why not let everyone interact in the way that they want? It's not "dumb" if it doesn't affect you one way or the other.

                      1. re: Samalicious
                        c oliver Feb 15, 2014 02:36 PM

                        Agreed. As I wrote above, why would anyone mind...other than those paying for the change?

                      2. re: SaraAshley
                        carolinadawg Feb 15, 2014 04:38 PM

                        And if you don't want to ignore anyone, you don't have to. I can't understand why anyone would object to it. If you don't want to utilize the ignore feature, then don't. Simple.

                        1. re: carolinadawg
                          jrvedivici Feb 15, 2014 04:54 PM

                          By the same token, if you want to ignore someone just do! I don't object to the feature but I do find it odd that it seems like people feel the need to have it.

                          1. re: jrvedivici
                            c oliver Feb 15, 2014 04:56 PM

                            Why would anyone find it odd? Kinda different strokes and it effects only those who choose the option.

                            1. re: c oliver
                              jrvedivici Feb 15, 2014 05:02 PM

                              Yes, personally I find it odd that people feel the need to have a way to mandate an ignore feature rather than just ignoring it on their own. It's a bit of a foreign concept to me, but again if someone feels the need for this I respect that. I just don't understand it.

                              1. re: jrvedivici
                                c oliver Feb 15, 2014 05:10 PM

                                Glad to see you agree.

                                1. re: jrvedivici
                                  EWSflash Mar 3, 2014 05:48 PM

                                  What I would say is this- sometimes people piss me off and personally, I would like a nice way to let them express their (blather blather blather) opinions and ignore them than to, say, report them or worse, engage in some nasty back-and-forth with them.
                                  It may be passive aggressive, but it doesn't step on anybody's toes. Good Lord, I have a group of friends that meet for lunch at work, and one guy not only completely dominates the conversation every day, he considers himself a foodie, but I think he's a cheapass scrounge that has no idea what it costs sometimes to make really good food. But I'd never tell him that, or report him to the Cafeteria Police (weak comparison to this site, I know). He also critiques his (hospital cafeteria) meal each and every day. Sometimes I need to take a break from the group rather than choke the little shit, despite the fact that one of the guys in the group has been a good friend for a very long time and I never get tired of him.
                                  People need to be themselves, I'd like to be able to mute the annoying people's voices without hurting their feelings.

                              2. re: jrvedivici
                                justxpete Feb 15, 2014 05:00 PM

                                Ok, this is an example of a thread.

                                useless post

                                useless post

                                useless post

                                useless post

                                useless post

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                                useless post

                                useful post

                                useless post

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                                useless post

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                                useful post

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                                useless post

                                useless post

                                It's not fun wading through all the useless info. It's tedious. Sure, an extreme example, but not that far off from some actual threads. Now expand that the amount of text, multiple threads and consistent posts, and ignoring someone (constantly) isn't as easy as you might think.

                                1. re: justxpete
                                  squid kun Mar 2, 2014 12:25 AM

                                  You've been on unmoderated boards? Multiply those useless posts by about 10.

                                2. re: jrvedivici
                                  carolinadawg Feb 15, 2014 05:00 PM

                                  It's not physically possible to ignore posts on thus board. They are there, one can't not read them, when you open a thread, all posts are there. If you don't object then why do you seem to be objecting? Again, if you don't want to utilize the feature, then don't.

                                  1. re: carolinadawg
                                    jrvedivici Feb 15, 2014 05:04 PM

                                    There is a difference between objecting and offering ones opinion.

                                    1. re: jrvedivici
                                      Veggo Feb 15, 2014 05:09 PM

                                      And some object to hearing an opinion different from their own. Right here in democratic America!

                                      1. re: jrvedivici
                                        carolinadawg Feb 15, 2014 05:12 PM

                                        Maybe you're just not very good at expressing yourself.

                                        1. re: carolinadawg
                                          jrvedivici Feb 15, 2014 05:19 PM

                                          I would probably be willing to bet if you were to take a poll of both users and mods here an inability to express myself would not be a quality attributed to me.

                                          Any takers?

                                          1. re: jrvedivici
                                            Veggo Feb 15, 2014 05:24 PM

                                            No taker here. And in contrast to some, you tend to be upbeat and positive.

                              3. g
                                GH1618 Feb 15, 2014 04:43 PM

                                There was another thread on this subject recently. My opinion is that this is an unnecessary and even undesireable feature in a well-moderated site such as this. I don't want it. The more they tinker with the software to try to accomodate the various requests for features, the more likely they are to break it. Better to just leave well enough alone.

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                                1. re: GH1618
                                  carolinadawg Feb 15, 2014 04:47 PM

                                  Yes, that was pointed out upthread. Actually, there are several previous posts on this topic, which, to me, indicates a high degree of interest in such a feature. Anyone who doesn't wish to utilize such it is free to not do so. No harm, no foul.

                                  1. re: carolinadawg
                                    GH1618 Feb 15, 2014 04:58 PM

                                    Two or three threads on a site which has hundreds of active users certainly does not indicate a "high degree of interest."

                                    1. re: carolinadawg
                                      SaraAshley Feb 15, 2014 05:12 PM

                                      I have a hard time seeing how an ignore button would work without possibly making a thread appear disjointed when you've chosen to ignore a certain poster that is posting on that thread. What if someone you haven't ignored responds directly to someone you have ignored. You're only going to see the non-ignored person's responses, and they possibly won't make any sense since you can't see what they're responding to. I guess if this doesn't bother you than fine. But I think that's the part I find most odd.

                                      1. re: SaraAshley
                                        carolinadawg Feb 15, 2014 05:14 PM

                                        If you don't utilize the feature, then it won't impact you. No need to worry about what other people's experience is...that's up to them to worry about.

                                        1. re: carolinadawg
                                          SaraAshley Feb 15, 2014 05:18 PM

                                          Well Carolinadawg, this is precisely why I won't utilize this feature if given the option. We have differing opinions on the issue, but I'm interested in knowing your side rather than being told not to worry about it. I enjoy discussion that doesn't always agree with me.

                                          1. re: SaraAshley
                                            carolinadawg Feb 15, 2014 05:24 PM

                                            It's not about discussions that "don't agree with you". At all. And you wouldn't have to utilize it, so no big deal.

                                        2. re: SaraAshley
                                          SaraAshley Feb 15, 2014 05:29 PM

                                          Also, what if I respond to someone who has ignored me. My response is then for nothing I suppose. But I won't know it.

                                          1. re: SaraAshley
                                            mcf Feb 15, 2014 06:11 PM

                                            It's readily apparent to you when that happens, and you just don't sweat it. You just assume it's a reply to someone you don't "see."

                                    2. c oliver Feb 15, 2014 05:57 PM

                                      I was told by a CH that his/her goal is to entertain. That he/she knows little about food. Why shouldn't I be able to "ignore" and the CH will never even know it? What's the problem?

                                      1. jrvedivici Feb 15, 2014 06:35 PM

                                        Hello??? Helloooooo........oh shit is this thing on? Oh geeze I think I'm being ignored, oh no! I feel so alone.

                                        It's not nice being ignored. Someone hug me...... :-(

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                                        1. re: jrvedivici
                                          SaraAshley Feb 15, 2014 06:36 PM


                                          1. re: SaraAshley
                                            EWSflash Mar 3, 2014 05:53 PM

                                            Oh Sara, quit encouraging him! ;-)

                                            1. re: EWSflash
                                              jrvedivici Mar 3, 2014 06:48 PM

                                              There's always room for another hug! Don't hate, hug!

                                              1. re: jrvedivici
                                                SaraAshley Mar 3, 2014 09:41 PM

                                                Hugs all around!!

                                        2. justxpete Feb 15, 2014 07:01 PM

                                          I also wish there was a Kanye West ignore button for the Internet.

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                                          1. re: justxpete
                                            sedimental Feb 15, 2014 07:08 PM

                                            OMG I would be all over that.

                                          2. petek Feb 15, 2014 07:07 PM

                                            I was wondering what happened to you justxpete..

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                                            1. re: petek
                                              justxpete Feb 16, 2014 07:35 AM

                                              Yah. Ont has become far more aggravating than is necessary and is not worthy of actively enduring for such minimal benefit.

                                              1. re: justxpete
                                                petek Feb 16, 2014 07:49 AM

                                                I have to admit that I sometimes get caught up in some of the snippy/aggravating posts, usually taking things way too personal. The best solution I find for me is "don't Feed the Troll". The Troll being another poster on the TO board that got under my skin on a daily basis and ignoring said person seems to have worked so far.

                                                1. re: petek
                                                  justxpete Feb 16, 2014 08:05 AM

                                                  Yeah. I try not to do that too. But ignoring the trolls requires SO MUCH willpower. It's Damn near impossible. Haha.

                                                  But really I'm referring to the constant inane chatter. I don't mind it here and there but it seems to be permeating in to every single thread with few exceptions. And yes, there's a few other individuals I would specifically ignore for their OTT aggression, including that one poster that posts only snark all the time. What's the point? Anyway, CH would be utopian!

                                                  1. re: justxpete
                                                    petek Feb 16, 2014 08:16 AM

                                                    Ahh utopia..so close but yet so far...
                                                    Plenty of other great boards and topics to participate in.

                                                    1. re: justxpete
                                                      fryerlover Mar 2, 2014 07:43 AM

                                                      If people report the snark (damn, he's rude!) or social chat more often, would the moderators not do something about it?

                                                      1. re: fryerlover
                                                        mcf Mar 2, 2014 07:53 AM

                                                        They used to. Not with any consistency any more.

                                                        1. re: mcf
                                                          fryerlover Mar 2, 2014 02:30 PM

                                                          That's too bad. I look at some of it like I would trolling and trolls should be reprimanded in my opinion. Maybe after three reported posts, that the moderators felt the need to remove, they should be suspended for a period of time..........just a thought. I think I've had two deleted so I'd be closing in on a suspension...lol.

                                                          1. re: fryerlover
                                                            mcf Mar 2, 2014 02:54 PM

                                                            There might be no one left. ;-)

                                                        2. re: fryerlover
                                                          justxpete Mar 3, 2014 09:11 AM

                                                          I think the chat is reported often, and they don't do anything about it.

                                                          And we all know the trolling goes un-moderated.

                                                          1. re: justxpete
                                                            c oliver Mar 3, 2014 09:12 AM

                                                            You might want to edit "do" to "don't" ?

                                                            1. re: justxpete
                                                              fryerlover Mar 4, 2014 10:18 AM

                                                              Oh well. I think we all make snarky/rude/unkind/arrogant comments at times. And sometimes they get deleted and we try to rephrase them as best we can but may still come across as one of the above (snarky/rude/unkind/arrogant)!
                                                              Some people are more foodie's than others and don't know everything and don't want to know everything and they get raked for not knowing everything by the person who "knows everything". Know what I'm talkin about ;)

                                                              1. re: fryerlover
                                                                justxpete Mar 4, 2014 10:36 AM

                                                                Definitely. And some people troll constantly and I can't help being snarky towards them because they're always being so over-the-top ridiculously absurd.

                                                                I don't mind the occasional snarky comment. Makes things interesting at times. It's the constant inane chatter that drives me batty.


                                                                1. re: justxpete
                                                                  c oliver Mar 4, 2014 12:22 PM

                                                                  I agree. The snarky, if flagged, will be more apt to be deleted than the chatter.

                                                            2. re: fryerlover
                                                              carolinadawg Mar 3, 2014 09:30 AM

                                                              The mods have publicly stated that chit chat is ok. In other words, its no longer "deletable", much to the demise of the site.

                                                              1. re: carolinadawg
                                                                c oliver Mar 3, 2014 09:42 AM

                                                                cd, that's not 100% accurate. Just this morning a couple of posts that I'd reported as off-topic did, in fact, get deleted. Not sure why the worst of them (you know, the ones that just fly off into silliness) seem to stand. But some DO get deleted.

                                                                ETA: This was actually a test in light of this and other threads.

                                                    2. TorontoJo Feb 16, 2014 07:19 AM

                                                      I would love an ignore button. I would happily return to my home board if there were one. As it stands, I've stopped reading and posting because the signal to noise ratio is way too low. I find fewer and fewer people actually reviewing and discussing the food at restaurants and more and more people either sniping at one another or being chatty without adding anything to the food discussion.

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                                                      1. re: TorontoJo
                                                        fickle Feb 26, 2014 07:34 PM

                                                        I've left the Toronto board also. My time is too valuable to waste it on clicking a thread with no new value.

                                                        1. re: fickle
                                                          justxpete Feb 26, 2014 09:21 PM

                                                          I completely ignore threads I know "the gang" will be using to as their social media for the day.

                                                          It's improved things a bit. Luckily our interests aren't the same, for the most part.

                                                          I'd still much prefer an ignore button. Really, there's only about 2-3 individuals who contribute almost absolutely nothing.

                                                          1. re: fickle
                                                            Wahooty Feb 26, 2014 10:24 PM

                                                            Wait...you mean you don't enjoy opening yet another thread about <redacted>...with 15 or so replies...only to find that only two of them actually discuss the <redacted>?

                                                            As a dedicated lurker, I've been amusing myself by flagging the chitchat, but I'm not really getting anywhere.

                                                            1. re: Wahooty
                                                              ElsieDee Mar 1, 2014 11:15 PM

                                                              I have basically stopped flagging the chit-chat / banter, quit opening posts where I can see the bantering participants, and stopped contributing. There is still value in this site, but the noise is drowning it out.

                                                              As for my decision not to contribute? I have watched too many attempts by others derail because of snarkiness, off-topic banter, and outright rudeness. Oh, and the "in Crowd" crap happening on my local board. I choose to spare myself that frustration.

                                                              1. re: ElsieDee
                                                                coll Mar 2, 2014 06:02 AM

                                                                My local board seems to be the only safe place anymore!

                                                                1. re: coll
                                                                  mcf Mar 2, 2014 07:13 AM

                                                                  So I'm not the only one who thinks CH has gotten less friendly and also very rambling OT stuff left up by mods even after flagging?

                                                                  Moderation has changed radically, cannot find any consistency in it, nor the same guiding principles the mods keep trying to say have not changed.

                                                                  1. re: mcf
                                                                    coll Mar 2, 2014 07:19 AM

                                                                    Yeah all that and a bag of chips '-) The good thing is, I'm not on the computer anywhere near as much lately, and for that I'm glad!

                                                                    1. re: mcf
                                                                      c oliver Mar 2, 2014 09:02 AM

                                                                      mcf, it's that consistency, or rather lack thereof, that bugs me.

                                                                      1. re: mcf
                                                                        justxpete Mar 3, 2014 09:29 AM

                                                                        "So I'm not the only one who thinks CH has gotten less friendly and also very rambling OT stuff left up by mods even after flagging?"

                                                                        Yup. That's pretty much exactly what's happened on the Ontario board.

                                                                        If only there was a legitimate alternative.

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