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Release Notes Feb 13, 2014: New Food Quests Board

Dave MP Feb 13, 2014 03:28 PM

Hi everyone,

As of today's release, we have a new topical board on Chowhound called Food Quests. Here's the link: http://chowhound.chow.com/boards/96

The description reads "Ideas and advice for all your food projects," and we've created this board to further connect our community members when they are diving into a new food project. So, if you're embarking on a new food adventure, whether it's making your own cheese, butchering meat, brewing your own beer, or learning how to can homemade jam, this is the place for you.

We realize there is some overlap between this board and some of our other topical boards, and we think that's okay. This board is really meant for do-it-yourself projects, and we're encouraging folks to try out this board and start brainstorming and exchanging ideas with others who regularly take these on.

In conjunction with the launch of this board, we're also trying out a new format for Chowhound. Check out this Site Talk post to find more information about this format, which we're calling "workshops.": http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/965021

For the time being, all posts on the Food Quests board will be in this workshop format while we test it out and continue to develop the tools and features. So if you see a topic in Food Quests (or any discussion marked with the red lightbulb icon), you'll know it's a workshop as opposed to a regular discussion.

Eventually, the plan is to roll out this workshop format as well as regular discussions across all boards, meaning that when you start a new discussion on any board, you'd have the option of choosing which type of discussion you want to start.

Feel free to ask any questions about the new Food Quests board here. For questions or comments about the new format (workshops), please check out this Site Talk discussion. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/965021

Dave MP

  1. Melanie Wong Feb 13, 2014 04:02 PM

    I found the url for the new Food Quests board,

    1 Reply
    1. re: Melanie Wong
      Dave MP Feb 13, 2014 04:12 PM

      Thanks! I've added this link into my original post, too.

    2. CindyJ Feb 15, 2014 02:20 PM

      So if I'm making chicken soup for the first time, I come HERE to ask questions, rather than Home Cooking?

      5 Replies
      1. re: CindyJ
        Jacquilynne Feb 17, 2014 08:44 AM

        We're not strictly limiting the contents of Food Quests so you could post there, but whether you'd want to depends on whether you view making chicken soup as a major project or something you just need a decent recipe for and then you'll toss it off for dinner tonight.

        I could certainly see Chicken Soup as a Quest -- if you wanted to learn about making stock, for example, and developing flavors in soups and other aspects of it as a project.

        1. re: Jacquilynne
          c oliver Feb 17, 2014 09:52 AM

          I guess I don't really understand why, say, making stock wouldn't still be on HC. Are y'all going to move such general topcs to FQ? TIA.

          1. re: c oliver
            Jacquilynne Feb 17, 2014 10:19 AM

            As Dave noted in his introduction, there will be overlap between Food Quests and existing boards, as there is now with Home Cooking and Vegetarian, Special Diets, BBQ, Kosher, etc. There isn't a single right answer to which board something has to be on to be correct and we don't plan to move things unsolicited. As the board gets more established, we may offer to move things if we think they'll get better answers on Food Quests than on Home Cooking, but even that's likely to be a ways off.

            1. re: Jacquilynne
              greygarious Feb 17, 2014 01:28 PM

              This trend toward Balkanization of cooking topics is uncalled-for and fraught with confusion. If this is your attempt to segregate serious postings from the in-crowd, puerile, boozinnuendo chit-chat, it is misguided. The latter needs culling, not the former.

              1. re: greygarious
                c oliver Feb 17, 2014 01:33 PM

                "the in-crowd, puerile, boozinnuendo chit-chat,"

                Just have to tell you what a way with words you have, gg! Well said.

                I also am unclear as to the point of it.

      2. jen kalb Feb 20, 2014 10:04 AM

        I really dont get the title of the Board - to me a food quest is when I go out to find something obscure - and ingredient or a food - but here its being used for basically a cooking project. Why not call it "kitchen workshop" or something similar - or even "cooking quest"

        Its also hard to understand why this topic has been separated from the Home Cooking Board unless the site is just trying to figure out a new way of managing threads.

        Im troubled by the voting down - recommending a contribution ought to be good enough here without dissing others..

        1. NonnieMuss Mar 13, 2014 08:52 AM

          I'm sorry to bump this thread with a repetitive comment, but I still don't understand this board. Can you all explain it more clearly? How do you determine the difference between a "quest" and a simple "anyone have a good recipe" question?

          10 Replies
          1. re: NonnieMuss
            512window Mar 13, 2014 01:59 PM

            I didn't make the board nor do I plan to frequent it, but I imagine it's for quests like -" I want to make the best lemon bars ever and these are the recipes that I've tried and how I've combined them, but something is still missing, any ideas?"

            The HC board is the place for - "I'm looking for good lemon bar recipes." The place-based boards are where you find - "Where can I get the best lemon bars in ****?"

            1. re: 512window
              c oliver Mar 13, 2014 02:08 PM

              I see what you're saying and that's probably the case. However if I search on the Home Cooking board for lemon bars then any that are on the Quest board aren't going to show up. I hate to yuck their yum, but this seems in every way counter-intuitive.

              1. re: c oliver
                MplsM ary Mar 13, 2014 09:09 PM

                You'll also note that many "quests" are from people with little or no Chowhound history. Think we're confused... just imagine if it's your first post on or exposure to Chowhound. Icky.

                1. re: MplsM ary
                  NonnieMuss Mar 14, 2014 05:21 AM

                  Okay - glad to know I'm not the only one. As an aspiring cheesemaker, I thought it sounded like an interesting idea for a board. But one man's sandwich seems to be another man's quest. C'est la vie.

                  1. re: MplsM ary
                    Chris VR Mar 14, 2014 06:20 AM

                    I feel really bad for those new posters, whose questions go largely unanswered, partly because their questions really aren't suited to that board.

                    1. re: Chris VR
                      c oliver Mar 14, 2014 08:21 AM

                      I think that ties in with Nonnie's post above. What qualifies as a quest for one person is just Home Cooking for many of us.

                      1. re: c oliver
                        greygarious Mar 14, 2014 11:22 AM

                        I'd say most, and practically ALL. It wasn't broke but they decided to fix it. I wonder how many of those newbies asking their questions on FQ found it on their own, and how many are plants, or friends of CHOW staff who were requested to use that board to help it along. For myself, I can't imagine any reason to ask there rather than on HC or other topical boards.

                        1. re: greygarious
                          c oliver Mar 14, 2014 11:34 AM

                          I was trying to be nice :)

                          I just took a glance at the board and don't see anything there that doesn't perfectly fit on HC. Unless there's something I (and you and others!) are missing, it seems not just silly but just wrong. Seems like almost every post on CH, cooking or eating out, is either a quest or an answer to a quest.

                          1. re: greygarious
                            NonnieMuss Mar 14, 2014 11:38 AM

                            Well like I said, I'm interested in cheesemaking. I've hung around the cheese board some, but it's about 95% other cheese-related topics, so if i could specifically find the cheesemakers on the quest board, I'd be happy to "workshop" or whatever it wants me to do. But it doesn't seem to be working the way it was intended to.

                            It is true that many of the posters are new or their first post is there, but more of the posters are either regulars or have been members for awhile without being too active. I counted.

                            1. re: greygarious
                              c oliver Mar 14, 2014 12:05 PM

                              I just looked at a new post there from a new poster. About sous vide-ing shrimp. Had this been on the HC board I and others would see it. Stupid.

                2. Kris in Beijing Mar 17, 2014 05:43 PM

                  Could you put up a "planned"/plotted/ fake FOOD QUEST so CH'ers could see an ideal use of the Board?

                  2 Replies
                  1. re: Kris in Beijing
                    c oliver Mar 17, 2014 06:16 PM

                    Good idea. I sure don't get it.

                    1. re: Kris in Beijing
                      MplsM ary Mar 17, 2014 07:07 PM

                      Isn't that what we have now?

                    2. Ruth Lafler Apr 15, 2014 02:45 PM

                      How about a sticky to describe what the board is supposed to be for (with examples, maybe) and how it works, since it's different from all the other boards?

                      One of the threads I had posted on got moved to Food Quests (wrongly, as far as I can tell) and when I pulled it up I had no idea what was going on! The Food Quest page itself was no help; I had to come here to Site Talk and do a search to find this topic.

                      Very user unfriendly!!!!!!

                      10 Replies
                      1. re: Ruth Lafler
                        EM23 Apr 15, 2014 03:55 PM

                        Ruth – Are you saying that a discussion that you contributed to on another board was moved to FQ? That seems out of order that CH would do that. I hope it’s not so.

                        1. re: EM23
                          Ruth Lafler Apr 15, 2014 04:01 PM

                          Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. I didn't even know there was a Food Quests board until this thread popped up with a new reply on my "followed discussions."

                          As I noticed when the Cheese board was started, they will populate a new board with existing threads they feel fit the topic.

                          1. re: Ruth Lafler
                            MplsM ary Apr 15, 2014 04:07 PM

                            /snark Here's yet another wonderful thing about the new format - when a post gets a number of down votes it gets hidden. One need to click "show hidden posts" to see them. This really adds value to an already wonderful click-fishing concept. /snark

                            1. re: MplsM ary
                              EM23 Apr 15, 2014 04:24 PM

                              That's normal with comment rating...the comments with the most up votes always remain at top. Jacques and Julia could post cooking tips and we might not see them because they get buried by comments that have more votes. I read Redditt boards sometimes and that feature is annoying.

                            2. re: Ruth Lafler
                              greygarious Apr 15, 2014 04:14 PM

                              Did you perhaps notice the Spaghetti Squash thread when it appeared in the gray "Discussion" list at the foot of the page, and click onto it there? I did that once, not realizing that the topic was on FQ, which I have no interest in nurturing.

                              If I initiated a thread on one of the other boards and it was moved to FQ, either because someone flagged to suggest that, or because the Mods were doing cosmetic surgery on the FQ topic list, I would be boiling mad!

                              1. re: greygarious
                                Ruth Lafler Apr 15, 2014 04:35 PM

                                Possible, except I'm pretty sure that I would have noticed the up and down thingies.

                              2. re: Ruth Lafler
                                EM23 Apr 15, 2014 04:18 PM

                                Yowza! I remember reading that they can’t move threads off FQ while it’s in beta but it never occurred to me that they might move threads on that were started on another board. I think this is different than the threads moved to the cheese board. In that case they were moved from one discussion board to another. What you’re describing means they are reassigning comments from a regular discussion to a project thread and that makes your comments open to up and down voting. That stinks.

                                1. re: Ruth Lafler
                                  The Chowhound Team Apr 15, 2014 05:54 PM

                                  We haven't moved any posts to the Food Quests board, and don't have the ability to turn a regular discussion thread into a workshop format thread. We only see one post from you on the Food Quests board, and it was on a thread that originated on the Food Quests board. We're not sure how you came across it, but it was on that board when you posted to it.

                                  1. re: The Chowhound Team
                                    EM23 Apr 15, 2014 06:26 PM

                                    Good news!

                                    1. re: The Chowhound Team
                                      Ruth Lafler Apr 16, 2014 11:24 AM

                                      Thanks for the clarification. I don't know how I missed the workshop format!

                                      My points about the explanatory sticky still stand -- as you know, I'm a long-time user of this site. If it's not clear to me, then I doubt it's going to be clear to other people.

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