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The Taste 2/6/14 spoilt egos

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I'm guessing the dragon/dumpling lady is actually Chinese, and she's been around the block. She certainly knows a lot of shit that most wannabe celebrity tv chefs don't know. In fact, she knows a lot of shit that actual celebrity chefs don't know. It's sad to then see the people who don't know get upset about something they know nothing about. How could they know if something tastes good or bad if they don't know what it is and never had it before? I sure as hell don't know what makes Jeff and Lee so high and mighty.

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  1. Well, they are trained chefs! They paid good money for that education and are getting beat up by a housewife. (if that's what she really is)

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    1. re: Firegoat

      I don't know what Marina is and I don't care. I just know she knows stuff that I don't know but she doesn't know what I know and I don't know what she knows. I also don't know what Jeff or Lee knows other than they're stuck up.

      1. re: Worldwide Diner

        Marina is the only reason I'm still watching.

      2. re: Firegoat

        yes she's a housewife. she cooks for me when i come over and i've been to brazil with her. She's my aunt

        1. re: gchung32

          Very cool gchung32. She was very impressive and had such a fun attitude!

      3. Lee couldn't stop bitching about Marina. I hope he goes home next. Whatta drama queen. As for Marina - she's the only one who deserves to go all the way at this point.

        That egg yolk strand thing was incredible, and I was seriously disappointed when I heard the theme was "sweets." Snore.

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        1. re: linguafood

          I agree I am over Lee. His first lapse in judgement was dating Cassie. Then the arrogance thing became really unattractive. Now the whole Marina thing is just poor sportsmanship. Plus he is starting to look a little like a drunk the way it has all been edited. I am thinking Bourdain's team is going down unless he can turn it around.

          1. re: melpy

            Perhaps it was his past working on FN projects that has helped him become such an asshole.

            1. re: melpy

              Oops. Now I think I may have been confusing Jeff and Lee. I think Jeff was the bigger asshole about Marina.

              1. re: linguafood

                Jeff was the bigger whiner but I give him credit for saying it to Marina's face. I also don't think Marina is a dragon lady - I don't think she's bossy or bitchy.

                1. re: Worldwide Diner

                  I didn't think dragon lady was refering to bossiness/personality but was more of a derogatory racial comment. Who knows? She comes across very confident and doesn't whine like the others which might mean there is little commiserating in the "dorms".

            2. re: linguafood

              The categories this year are so much better than last year - at least "sweet" is a fairly tradition subject. Unlike "seduction". Talking about desserts is a far more normal line of judging conversation rather than hearing Ludo and Bourdain talk about what they think sexy food is. *shudder*

            3. This show is really growing on me. I feel invested in everyone who is left, even the drama queens. I really want the gal from Minneapolis (Sarah) to keep going, too, even though her food is solidly unflashy (how very Minnesotan).

              ~TDQ

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              1. re: The Dairy Queen

                I enjoy the show. But the part I absolutely hate is the "required" "tell me why you shouldn't go home". Do we really have to listen to this begging and whining?

                1. re: DGresh

                  My husband is sick of so much time being spent explaining the rules every episode. He would really like to see this cut to 90 minutes.

                  1. re: DGresh

                    I don't like that either.

                    ~TDQ

                    1. re: The Dairy Queen

                      and in the most recent episode, Tony said something like "now comes the part where you have to say..... it's hard, but it's required" or something like that. Like even he knows it's obnoxious.

                      1. re: DGresh

                        Well, he's a producer of the show. If he doesn't like it, surely he can do something about it. Maybe they just need to stretch for time.

                        Besides being uncomfortable to watch, it just serves to drive a wedge between surviving teammates.

                        ~TDQ

                2. I agree re: Jeff and Lee's arrogance. The probably feel threatened by Marina, who really is the most interesting cook on the show at this point. The food stylist also seems to be coming into her own and I don't think she should be underestimated. What I don't get is Anthony fawning all over Shellie for her "flashes of genius." She was likable and occasionally made an interesting sounding dish here and there. But genius? Did I miss something? I just didn't see it. I thought they made the right choice re: keeping the Minnesotan (Sarah?) on.

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                  1. re: brooklynsabra

                    I get the feeling that Shellie was stoned most of the time and couldn't get anything done without help, hence she did well on the team challenge but never got a gold star on the individual challenges.

                    I think Bourdain likes her because she's an unrepentant degenerate much like he is.

                  2. I've gotten more impressed with the food stylist as the show has gone on (Louise). She's put out some good looking tastes.

                    Shellie was done.

                    Lee and Jeff's whining about Marina is tiring. Lee's the last one on AB's team, but I think it's Shehu's turn to go next, although I wouldn't have any issue if Jeff goes.

                    I'd like to see Louise and Marina in the finale, perhaps with Lee, so that would be two of Ludo's team and one of AB's.

                    Next week's theme is "Good With Beer" - will be interesting to see how Ludo fares with that. Speaking of Ludo, he couldn't have been more hopped up on sugar if he tried.

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                    1. re: LindaWhit

                      I think Sara is better than Shehu, and I can't really comment on how good Louise is - i think she finally picked up a gold star, so not that good. Of the people left, does she have the least number of gold stars?

                      1. re: LindaWhit

                        Ludo on sugar was hysterical. Made the fact that I was forced to watch a dessert show fun.

                      2. I've been pretty much on team Marina, but could acknowledge lee and Jeff were doing some good things. After this, I think I'll just stay with Marina. She's some sort of mystical cooking goddess near as I can tell.

                        I never saw Anthony's "genius" he saw in Shellie. Mostly I wanted to give her a shower. I know he's in love with street food, and she has a food truck,... so she's "Street" and "real" but I just didn't get it in her food. The stand out she had ... the spam thing ... was basically Tony's concept, idea and plan.

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                        1. re: Firegoat

                          I wonder if Marina isn't playing coy? Maybe she's some kind of culinary star where she came from.

                          1. re: Worldwide Diner

                            I think it is just her vast world experience plus the fact that so much of her background is in cuisines that the judges and other contestants aren't well versed in.

                            1. re: Worldwide Diner

                              I think there's also something to say for Marina perhaps not knowing the language so well. I think that for a number of these contestants - Sarah during the dessert challenge particularly comes to mind - they get flooded with information and that clutters their thinking.

                              Marina will win or lose this competition cooking exactly what she wants, with minimal input from Ludo and everyone else.

                              1. re: cresyd

                                like when she interpreted "decedent" as being able to eat a lot of something without it being unhealthy.... did she know what they were expecting.... and do her own thing because she knows what she knows and does what she knows.... I think so... she isnt going to sell out making a deep fried twinkie or "stoner food" because that isnt who she is... that is not where is from or what she knows or the path she is has walked.. could she? She says she "only knows what she knows" but I think what is because she doesnt care to 'know' anything else at this time. does it work for her? so far yes.... If you make a living singing Opera why sing mettal

                          2. Marina says on twitter she's from Taiwan.

                            ~TDQ

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                            1. re: The Dairy Queen

                              I think on the show she said she lived and started her family in Brazil.

                              1. re: Withnail42

                                Yes, but she's from Taiwan.

                                "Marina Chung @marina_chung

                                @RaymondHuang1 I am taiwanese, brazilian! And have been living in america for 18 years.
                                11:38 AM - 31 Jan 2014"

                                ~TDQ

                                1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                  Taiwan is a food paradise! And it has a Portuguese flavour, especially in desserts and pastries, so maybe that's where the egg thread thing came from.

                                  1. re: badrockandroll

                                    You really don't know that they speak Portuguese in Brazil?

                                    1. re: Worldwide Diner

                                      Yes, I do.
                                      I also know that Taiwan was conquered by the Portuguese, and that the culinary legacy of it, as well as other invaders such as the Dutch and the Japanese, remain.

                            2. the " problem " was that the judges did not say Oh that is yummy or I love that in fact Anthony said " I dont really like it but I respect it" Jeff and Lees's point was that if the show is about the "Taste" then the ohhhh that is different and unique should not be awarded gold stars....
                              she also does not know as much as she thinks she knows... she knows a small amount of unique things...her tricks run about the length of the show...Kind of like a boy I knew once I thought was so smart because he knew a lot about the civil war.... there was only sooooooo long I could talk about the civl war..

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                              1. re: girloftheworld

                                I think the taste grew on them. Like the first te you try seething new and you have to go back for more to see if you really liked it. They genuinely seemed to like the taste in the end.

                                1. re: girloftheworld

                                  Don't make the mistake of thinking you know what she knows. As she says, you have no idea what she knows. And she never said she knows alot, she just knows what she knows, and you don't know what she knows.

                                  1. re: Worldwide Diner

                                    and she knows what she knows..

                                    1. re: Worldwide Diner

                                      I actually think Marina knows a hell of a lot more than I know. I'm enjoying watching her take the wind out of the sales of the culinary educated pretty boys.

                                    2. re: girloftheworld

                                      Too bad you can't apply yourself and show them all how it's done :-D

                                      1. re: linguafood

                                        but I dont know what I know ..much more imortantly know what I dont know... or know what she knows or know they dont know!

                                    3. I was a little taken aback when Jeff called her 'Dragon Lady'.

                                      1. Jeff is such a prissy ass whiner.

                                        1. I liked Marina right from the start seemed like and interesting character. Jeff and Lee were acting really prissy about not getting their little gold stars. She cooked a dish that the judges loved and were interested in. They need to put on their big boy pants, get over it, and start cooking better food

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                                          1. re: Withnail42

                                            the hare was pissed off by the turttle too! but in fairness they didnt "love it" they were interested by it and respected it. they found it it odd. They didnt spit it out and say grossssssss this doesnt work.but they didnt say WOW who knew.

                                            1. re: girloftheworld

                                              True point taken. But for what ever the reasons they did like it enough to earn her the stars. Jeff and Lee didn't garner even that interest. And unless you are in contest for spy novels you don't get starts for intrigue.

                                          2. I'm not completely on Team Marina. I find some of her ideas a bit wacky, like the time she said she was sealing the beef in bacon fat and then finishing the cooking in hot water. That makes no sense to me. Wouldn't the hot water wash off any of the flavour from the bacon fat?

                                            However, I do respect most of her knowledge. And I really dislike people like Jeff and Lee, who put her down just because they don't understand. Their views are so arrogantly Euro-centric. They dismiss all the really interesting things that Marina has learned in Asia and South America.

                                            I'm glad the judges recognize her unique knowledge.

                                            1. and don't forget the nails-on-chalkboard MARSCAPONE

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                                              1. re: DGresh

                                                At least it wasn't written like that on the screen this time.

                                                Uggghhhh.

                                                1. re: DGresh

                                                  I think Ludo was the only one who said it correctly...

                                                2. I liked Marina up until this last episode now I just think she's annoying

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                                                  1. re: madeliner

                                                    oops wrong thread but I still think so :)