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  1. Simple…La Barbara's Pizza on Wilshire in West LA. Delicious, cheap and open late too. It was the simply the best...

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    1. re: wienermobile

      sorry, your post on Tail o the Pup reminded me of this particular topic.

        1. re: wienermobile

          I miss Tail too. Time to raze the moribund Beverly Center and bring back the park/playland and tail o the pup!

      1. re: wienermobile

        Mine is the Wiener Factory, Nouveau Cafe Blanc, and Cafe n awl ins.

        1. re: kevin

          have to agree with the weiner factory.

          and as mentioned before mezze on la cienega was great. shame that they closed. hopefully wexlers deli in grand central will have some carryovers.

        2. re: wienermobile

          Agree with weinermobe on labarbara's. Great pizza (when WLA still had old school pizza style).

          I will throw The Hot Dog show (pacific palisades) and Bit of Scotland (Westwood) as the "out of left field" second choices.

          1. re: cagey

            The Hot Dog Show in Pacific Palisades is not related to the also no defunct Papoo's Hot Dog Show in Burbank, is it ????????

            1. re: kevin

              Similar theme, possibly built around same time. Themed menus (that papoos long abandoned) and the meat provisions were NOT Hoffy (a la Papoo's) but rather Harvey Sawyer - huge dif. Palisades location had a train running around the dining room. They were not related in ownership, at least by the late 60s. No one who knew the PP location would say there was much comparison aside from the theme/design. Fun place "that I really really miss" (in keeping with the post title).

            2. re: cagey

              There was also a Hot Dog Show in Toulca Lake across from Bob's Big Boy and Hamton's.

              1. re: wienermobile

                The Hot Dog Show in Pacific Palisades is not related to the also no defunct Papoo's Hot Dog Show in Burbank, is it ???????? ,,,,,,

                1. re: wienermobile

                  ….also one on Ventura Blvd in Studio City right where the Bistro Gardens now stands.

                  1. re: cagey

                    I loved the Hot Dog Show in the Palisades! I spent so much time there during high school.

                  2. re: wienermobile

                    I have tried many places that others said were like La Barbera's. Amazing no one has been able to even come close.

                        1. re: wienermobile

                          WiEner, get started on getting la barbersa back.

                          That's your new gig.

                          1. re: kevin

                            Where would you like to see it open? Same neighborhood? Kick out Union Buffet?

                            1. re: wienermobile

                              Sure. We can definitely kick out Union Buffet. I never frequented that joint anyhow.

                              1. re: wienermobile

                                Though we may have to save the Fuzhuou-sh fish balls and serve them at another restaurant. Someone mentioned that those fishy fish balls are pretty damn great.

                              2. re: kevin

                                Kevin, This is a message about La Barbara's pizza I found on Yelp from Natalie L."That is my family's restaurant. Wish it was still around. My mother worked there, and that's where she met my father. My grandpa Joe was the best. One day I hope to bring it back to town. Carry on that legendary pizza recipe ;)" So there is some hope? Are you out there Natalie L…. Save us pizza lovers please...

                                1. re: wienermobile

                                  Wiener, here's more guidance on the mission that you have set out to conquer:

                                  Find out Natalie L's contact information.

                                  Now get to work buddy. :)

                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                    Natalie L, are you out there? Do you have the recipies for the pizza or do you know anyone who made the pizzas? If you could recreate the pizza, you could do a one day, or one week popup in LA serving La Barberas pizza and you would have lines around the block. People would travel from all over to have some. This would be HUGE!!!

                                    1. re: bringiton

                                      There's so much fanfare regarding la barbera's pizza that they could probably make like gang busters if they ever happened to decide to open up a location once again to be sure.

                                    2. re: wienermobile

                                      I sent an email to Natalie L through her Yelp account. I suggested that she consider a one day or two day pop up serving La Barbera's pizza, assuming she could recreate the recipe. If she contacts me, I'll let y'all know. Who knows, if it is successful, the next step might be to reopen the restaurant somewhere new. However, even if it doesn't reopen, a pop up would be a blast.

                                2. re: wienermobile

                                  Where exactly was this located? On Wilshire, or in westwood? Do you remember what was unique about the pizza?

                                  1. re: csh123

                                    La Barbara's was a large multi room Pizzeria on Wilshire at Westgate in West LA and was in in it's prime in the 70's and early 80's. It's pizza was very unique, not NY style or Deep dish either. A very good medium crust and very generous with their toppings. Their homemade sausage was my favorite, They did not sell by the slice but were one of the first pizzeria's that sold small individual pies. They were open late and were very inexpensive. They had a very busy to go business and inside It was always packed to due to the loyalty of UCLA students. Due to the value of the land it was replaced by a run of the mill mini mall that is now home to Union Buffet and a Subway sandwich shop. Many of us who remember their pizza have never found anything close to what their's tasted like and all have the hope that someday someone returns with their families incredible recipes again. We on Chowhound should start our own Kickstarter and open a new La Barbara's up.

                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                      Actually it was my understanding that La Barbera's was offered a spot in the new mall, but they chose to retire since their children did not want to continue the restaurant. And I have never seen such devotion (well-deserved) to a restaurant that simply ended.

                                  2. re: wienermobile

                                    You're taking me back to college days, when we'd go to La Barbara's for pizza and the Fox Inn down the street for beers and bawdy songs. Chants of "Zicke zacke, zicke zacke, hoi hoi hoi!" as the Fox downed another frosty mug! Bill Foster went on to perform on The Man Show with Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Fos...

                                    How's that for memory lane?

                                  3. I miss Clifton's Cafeteria but at least I'm getting it back soon?

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                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                      You should be getting it back soon.

                                      Unless the guys from the Broadway Bar/Golden Gofer/Casey's Irish Pub and Grill/Cole's/etc get a hold of it and turn it into one of those oh so trendy nightlife joints.

                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                        Oh yeah, I miss that place too. Went to the one on Broadway many many years ago. I think the last time I went to Clfton's was at the West Covina Plaza.several years ago.

                                      2. My favorite restaurant as a kid was a little burger joint called the Choo Choo on Van Nuys Boulevard in Van Nuys. Its main claim to fame was that your little burger would come to you on a little steam train and stop right in front of you at the counter. I was transfixed. I was then heartbroken when it closed in the early 60's.

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                                        1. re: wienermobile

                                          That sounds beyond exceptional.

                                          I would go there right this very instant if it were still open.

                                          And I ain't even joking.

                                          I wonder if there is anything like it still around town. The chop choo train on the rail comes from the kitchen on the rail and stops right in front of you, ?????? Tha's beyond exceptional. obviously the food probably sucks but that's besides the point and as kid that shit probably was beyond delicious.

                                          1. re: kevin

                                            As a kid I could never figure out how the train knew where to stop. It was amazing.

                                        2. Bit O' Scotland and their fish and chips and Scotch eggs on Westwood Blvd in West LA.

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                                          1. re: wienermobile

                                            Oh but the fried chicken..... Sadly I have tried the F&C at john o'groats - much touted - but it doesn't quite stack up to the original. Something lost in the move...

                                          2. CC Brown's Hot Fudge on Hollywood Blvd.

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                                            1. re: wienermobile

                                              You know you can still get a CC Brown's hot fudge sundae at any restauarant owned by Lawry's and you can buy a bottle of CC Brown's to go there too? They bought out the company and the recipe.

                                            2. Jay's Jayburger: A Tommy's burger cooked by a chef.

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                                              1. re: jgilbert

                                                you echo the sentiments of chef Ken Frank.

                                                1. re: ns1

                                                  He never opened again ?

                                                  I miss it too especially the broth with the broad, homemade noodles.

                                                2. Place Yuu on Sawtelle. Luckily, owner/chef Mori-san is now helming Morinoya just down the street.

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                                                  1. re: J.L.

                                                    Second Place Yuu.

                                                    My favorite spot on Sawtelle.

                                                    That matsutake dobin mushi, the clam miso soup...

                                                    Morinoya looks good, but also more expensive. True/false?

                                                    1. re: Butter Fight

                                                      False. It's a different menu at Morinoya, focusing on Japanese small plates.

                                                      I would argue that my sushi bills alone from Place Yuu back its heyday put Mori-san's kids through college.

                                                    2. re: J.L.

                                                      Agreed. Morinoya is interesting . . . but it doesn't scratch the same itch.

                                                      Place Yuu was the first place I had real sushi, the first izakaya I went to, the first (and last) place I kept a bottle of shochu on hand. i really miss that place.

                                                    3. The Clam Chowder at Old World in Westwood Village (also on the Sunset Strip).

                                                      1. Btw, is Johnny's Shrimp Boat still around ????

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                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                          Oh yea, on Whittier in East Los or is it Boyle Heights just east of Soto.

                                                        2. Ed Debevic's Beverly Hills but not for the food...

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                                                            1. re: kevin

                                                              For the fun and the 35 cent sundae.

                                                              1. re: wienermobile

                                                                I see.

                                                                It's like a more energetic version of the old Johnnie Rocket's on Melrose.

                                                                1. re: kevin

                                                                  Which was "inspired" by Heaven Pop Cuisine, inside the Heaven store In Century City. A very original 40s counter & all original accoutrements, surrounded by all the cool merchandise. Great burgers sandwiches and fries. Not to mention soda fountain. Wish that were back in just that way. Restaurant as theater.

                                                                2. re: wienermobile

                                                                  +1 for 35¢ Sundaes. Plus the character waitstaff. Pretty sure Tarantino based the diner in Pulp Fiction on Eddie D's. Food was terrible.

                                                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                                                    Glad to see the love (and the pics!) for Ed's.

                                                                    My hubby was a waiter and DJ there, and while we've all grown up (?!) we have such fond memories of the place and some of our strongest friendships began there and are still thriving.

                                                                    +1 for the 35¢ sundae. And let's not forget the thrill of the atomic fries : )

                                                                    1. re: happybaker

                                                                      What's was your husband's character name? I may have known him.

                                                                          1. re: wienermobile

                                                                            Just asked "Edsel. Yeah. I think he was there the first year I was there."

                                                                            After he'd been there a while, he started to develop a character and yow, we still have that giant flat top wig in our possession.

                                                                            1. re: happybaker

                                                                              I was there in Beverly Hills from opening day till 1991. What was your characters name.

                                                                              1. re: wienermobile


                                                                                His main character's name was Ace and he was a nerd with fake glasses and a flattop wig. He started later than you did, so mostly worked days in the beginning and thinks you were nights.

                                                                                He does remember you, that you were a good guy, and kind to a newbie!

                                                                                Now if someone could just get me the recipe for that turkey meatloaf...

                                                                                1. re: happybaker

                                                                                  PS - He said your name began with "N" and was very short.

                                                                                  Don't want to give your full deets on chow, but that's a hint that he truly remembered you!

                                                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                      Uh-oh, Wiener, you've been OUTed !!!!!! :)

                                                                    2. re: wienermobile

                                                                      What a collection of pictures and postcards. The one of the Luau with the table next to the pool. I sat at that table in 1972 with my Grandfather and my Grandmother. I told my then 82 year old Grandfather that on a Friday night it was a meet market and all the young ladies in Beverly Hills would show up. He asked my why I didn't bring him on a Friday night. Thanks for the memory.

                                                                  2. re: wienermobile

                                                                    Ed's was a Chicago transplant and I enjoyed it in both cities and not for the food....

                                                                    1. re: foufou

                                                                      I am sure no one remembers this but there was also a Ed's Torrance location on Hawthorne Blvd where El Pollo Inka is today,

                                                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                                                        you mean Ed Debevic's in a Torrance location ???????

                                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                                          Yes. In Torrance. Closed years ago but opened before the Beverly Hills Location.

                                                                    2. re: wienermobile

                                                                      I liked the way the waitresses used to sit down at your booth when they took your order. Kinda lost some of its charm tho when I learned they were told to do that by corporate.

                                                                      1. Does anyone remember Fisher's Hamburgers in the old Town and Country Center across from Farmer's Market on 3rd Street? Boy did I love those burgers.

                                                                        and CASSELL'S HAMBURGERS that will return!

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                                                                        1. re: wienermobile

                                                                          They may as well call you Burgermobile these days. :)

                                                                          1. re: wienermobile

                                                                            Loved Fisher's, cafeteria style setup and all!

                                                                            1. re: wienermobile

                                                                              They keep saying that Cassell's Hamburgers will move to the Normandie Hotel 6th/Normandie. they've been saying this for a couple years, but nothing has come from that. The sad truth is that when Mr. Cassell sold the business the burger quality went way downhill.

                                                                              1. Mezze. A real loss when they closed.

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                                                                                      Btw, I heard that chef Tomi Harase of Nouveau Cafe Blanc fame is currently manning the stoves at an Italian cafe in Huntington Beach. This amounts to good though not great news. The not so great news is that he will be cooking Italian food instead of that beyond exceptional Cal-French-Japanese fusion goods.

                                                                                    1. re: yogachik

                                                                                      Loved Chatham....they don't make sandwiches like that any more....the size of a dinner plate.

                                                                                    2. Sasabune @ the original Sawtelle location.

                                                                                      It's where I got my sushi-cherry popped.

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                                                                                      1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                        Didn't know Nozawa started on Sawtelle.

                                                                                        That's so cool.

                                                                                        I always thought he started in the mid-1980s in Studio City.

                                                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                                                          nozawa did start in studio city.

                                                                                          sasabune was started by an apprentice and it was on sawtelle.

                                                                                          1. re: cdub

                                                                                            Thats what I previously thought.

                                                                                            But I defer to ipse on these matters.

                                                                                            So I thought I was wrong.

                                                                                      2. Wil Wright's -- my favorite ice cream "shoppe." (I remember one in Westwood and another in Tarzana. There were prob more.) Real vanilla ice cream (you could tell by the little black bits in the whitest-white ice cream you ever saw. As a kid I used to ask for the vanila-with-ants. Excellent hot fudge -- and arguably most magical of all, the little macaroon in the wax paper holder...

                                                                                        The Weiner Factory. Best hot dogs ever. I learned to eat kraut dogs there, while reading all the corny jokes on the wall. The challah-like buns were also delicious.

                                                                                        The fondue place on Ventura Blvd., Studio City (by Dixie Canyon). I loved that place. Again, childhood (or teenage-hood memories) plus more recent memories. The owner was so nice; the cuckoo clock was funny. Certainly no foodie haven, but a sweet memory.

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                                                                                        1. re: susiequeue

                                                                                          We had a Wil Wright's in Newport, too. LOVED their ice cream.

                                                                                        2. Marcel and Jeanne's French Café

                                                                                          It was like an even cooler version of Taix

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                                                                                          1. re: Ernie

                                                                                            Wow, my first French restaurant in Montebello, of all places! Kudos to my late mom, who humored her brood's prepubescent chowhound instincts. None of my family knew what the hell we were eating, but the proprietor was gracious and very nice.

                                                                                            1. re: Ernie

                                                                                              I remember riding past Marcel and Jeanne's French Cafe about 10 or 12 years ago. I couldn't tell if it was still in business but I knew it was the kind of place I would have loved. Sorry I never made it there.

                                                                                              In a related vein, I miss Jean's Blue Room in Sherman Oaks. It was a small, family-owned French restaurant. The best thing was getting a full tureen of soup on the table.

                                                                                              1. Beacon - i lived around the corner and must have eaten there once every 2 weeks or so.

                                                                                                  1. Cyrano Restaurant on Sunset in WeHo.

                                                                                                    Man I STILL crave their Caesar salad.

                                                                                                    1. Shanghai Winter Garden on Wilshire at Curson. When I moved here in 1980 I worked at KCBS. Connie Chung told me that she'd never eaten at a Chinese restaurant that made food better than her mother. However, if I wanted something that came close, the only place she's ever recommend was Shanghai. The first time I went, Marlon Brando was entertaining two of the most beautiful Asian ladies I'd ever seen. It was as good as Chinese food ever got in what could be called the heart of LA.

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                                                                                                      1. re: trimtab

                                                                                                        What a cool story, thank you for posting that

                                                                                                        1. re: Ernie

                                                                                                          I went there once. Was the first place where I had debilitating MSG reaction. "Someone please take the sword out of my head!" I said.

                                                                                                          1. re: jesstifer

                                                                                                            That's too bad. One of the nicer things about Shanghai WG was that you could ask for no MSG in your order.

                                                                                                      2. There are so many that I miss, but the first one that popped up in my mind was Ah Fong's. Their Beef Soo Chow was amazing, and they made the best Chow Mein I've ever tasted--no noodles. We went to the one in Encino regularly. I loved that place.

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                                                                                                        1. re: brandygirl

                                                                                                          How about Man Fook Low on San Pedro?

                                                                                                        2. Sabrosa
                                                                                                          West Beach Cafe
                                                                                                          7th St. Bistro
                                                                                                          Max au Triangle

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                                                                                                          1. re: foodiemahoodie

                                                                                                            WOW! those are one's I miss too, mahoodie!
                                                                                                            Esp the last 2, plus I really miss Ma Maison.

                                                                                                          2. The Sri Lanka Curry House on Fountain and Highland (1980s). God, they were wonderful, and lovely people too.

                                                                                                            And another vote for Wiener Factory–I stood behind Dick Clark at the old Burbank location once–but the Ventura Blvd. was the best, and one more for Jay's Jayburger.

                                                                                                            And lastly, though it was hardly a restaurant, the taco truck that used to be on 3rd and Witmer ca. 1980–1983...never had better carne asada in my life. The asada torta was PERFECT.

                                                                                                            1. I'd have to concur on LaBarbara's Pizza.

                                                                                                              But also--

                                                                                                              Nu-Way Hot Dogs. It was located at Pico and Bundy where Teddy's cafe is now. They had the best chili dogs ever and lasted 40+ years.

                                                                                                              Pickle Bill's. It was also on Pico but in Santa Monica. There was a large upright pickle sculpture standing on the roof over the front entrance. They had terrific fried shrimp and hot beef sandwiches.

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                                                                                                              1. re: Sam D.

                                                                                                                Sam D, How did you peek into my mind?? You are absolutely right. The chili at nu-way was the best, La Barbara's incomparable, But the one I miss the most is Pickle Bills, sawdust on the floor and the best hot roast beef sandwiches with gravy. I cant duplicate the gravy. I had a post on Pickle Bills and his Grandson?? replied that they retired early 70's?? and moved to Saint George Utah, He said if he had the recipe he would open another Pickle Bills up there but no luck.

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                                                                                                                  Thought I'd never hear the name Pickle Bill's again. Best childhood memories.

                                                                                                                2. La Barbara's
                                                                                                                  Original Spago

                                                                                                                  1. Five places I went to multiple, multiple times over the years, and I still miss them all in a visceral way.

                                                                                                                    Mago's Famous Hamburgers at 4500 Centinela in Mar Vista for cha shu avocado tacos and double avocado chili cheese burgers

                                                                                                                    Rutt's Hut on that little triangle of land that is across from the strip club Plan B for Portuguese sausage with eggs

                                                                                                                    Speaking of Plan B - Chicago Pizza Works for their pizza

                                                                                                                    El Patio http://articles.latimes.com/1990-08-3... on Wilshire Blvd. in West LA that had the best Chicago dogs and chili cheese dogs and had the greatest little patio out back

                                                                                                                    Finally - Anna's on Pico - still miss it on a weekly basis

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                                                                                                                    1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                      Mago's, I loved their avocado chashu burger. It was sort of a Westside version of Tommy's; open 24 hours and always a line. That's one place I want back, besides La Barbera's.

                                                                                                                      Chicago Pizza Works, LA's first great thick crust pizza.

                                                                                                                      1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                        One more place I really wish had not succumbed - Orleans. Cajun food heaven and right down the street from our house. Sob!

                                                                                                                      2. Hamburger Hamlet on Sunset, Perino's (before that last location that closed), Chasen's, Ma Maison, The Luau.

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                                                                                                                        1. re: BubblyOne

                                                                                                                          Re: Ma Maison, I thought, when Wolfgang Puck left to start his empire, it was all over.

                                                                                                                        2. The Little Prague on Hollywood Blvd,

                                                                                                                          This one comes from probably 15 years ago if not more but it was excellent Czech food. Then they moved back to Brno.

                                                                                                                          1. Kim Fung in San Gabriel

                                                                                                                            When I was a kid, the san gabriel superstore on san gabriel/valley blvd (shun fat) used to be a target. The plaza next to them on valley (which currently houses green zone, milk and honey, lu's garden) had a kim fung. It wasn't as "OG" as the chinatown or mpk ones, but the food tasted much better.

                                                                                                                            Unfortunately, they closed... but.... they reopened (as in, same group that ran the san gabriel location) as "Rainbow Noodle" on valley between new and garfield where there's currently lee's sandwich, noodle guy, flavor garden.

                                                                                                                            Maybe the name they chose wasn't catchy or OG enough, or maybe they constantly didn't have things that were on their menu, but they closed also. I'll miss the beef cubes w/ macaroni and cornish hen w/ red rice. No one made it like them, and to me, no one currently makes it as good as them.

                                                                                                                            The mpk branch had dipped in quality for years, I stopped going there long before they closed.

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                                                                                                                            1. re: blimpbinge

                                                                                                                              Never went there, but there was a Japanese restaurant there that was my first experience with Japanese food called isehama, so good.

                                                                                                                            2. Tick Tock in Hollywood . Best turkey dinner ever.

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                                                                                                                                    1. re: chris1621

                                                                                                                                      The best caeser salad in town - thankfully I cut out the recipe when it was in the LA Times magazine in the 80s. Miss that restaurant for so many reasons

                                                                                                                                    2. It's been a long time, but the Red Barn in Pasadena. Had a fire and never recovered. Great Peruvian food, still think about and miss that garlic chicken!

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                                                                                                                                      1. re: Michelle

                                                                                                                                        I would also add Konditori in Pasadena and Futami Sushi in Monrovia. We heard that Sam from Futami had moved to another place in Alhambra and tried to find him, but were never successful...

                                                                                                                                        1. re: Michelle

                                                                                                                                          I would add Konditori, but in Beverly Hills. We took a jaded New Yorker there and he kept asking however did we find such a neat spot.
                                                                                                                                          ( the word 'neat' was used a lot back in that day!)

                                                                                                                                          1. re: VenusCafe

                                                                                                                                            Konditori was one of my favorite restaurants for first dates. Coffee, a piece of pastry and conversation in beautiful surroundings. I liked the front part of the restaurant when you first walked in. It was NEAT.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                              I loved the open faced sandwiches, particularly the one with the bay shrimp and their great dill sauce .

                                                                                                                                              1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                                                and i'm still buying their dill sauce, only for some reason we always call it tarragon sauce.
                                                                                                                                                We always loved that our friend called it 'KonDITori'.
                                                                                                                                                We had always said KondiTORI, but changed when KonDITori sounded so much bettah!

                                                                                                                                      2. Though there are a number of now-closed restaurants that I miss, I really, really, really miss Rocca in Santa Monica. I'm happy to hear that Don Dickman will be opening another Italian Restaurant in Silver Lake.

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                                                                                                                                        1. re: whatsfordinner

                                                                                                                                          Don has been cooking at Barbrix on Hyperion @ Tracy for the last 3 years or so.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: carter

                                                                                                                                            I love Barbrix and go often, but still I miss Rocca.

                                                                                                                                        2. In looking over the list of already-mentioned ones, those that come to mind for me;
                                                                                                                                          Cyrano, Mezze, Café Blanc & Nouveau Café Blanc (in that order), Scandia (bar area only), Ships Westwood, the Luau BH, the original H/Hamlet on the Strip(not the relocated one, altho it was fun at times, but less so), and Zio on Van Nuys Blvd. in Sherman Oaks, still the best Italian food I have ever eaten, especially here in the valley.

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                                                                                                                                          1. re: carter

                                                                                                                                            I loved the Luau Beverly Hills. As a kid the black lit room made me feel like i was in some distance land or the Tiki room at Disneyland.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                I am old. When I was a teenager I saw Lucy & Desi at the Luau. I think this might have been 1964ish. I remember thinking how tall she was.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: ThatPat

                                                                                                                                                  I used to see Dino, Desi and Billy at Delores' Drive in on Wilshire in BH all the time.

                                                                                                                                            1. Angeli Cafe - I miss the bread and the gnocchi
                                                                                                                                              Cafe Luna on Melrose - I miss their rosemary bread with melted brie, tomato & basil, & the italian dressing i used to dip the bread in.
                                                                                                                                              Authentic Cafe - i miss the brie papaya cilantro quesadilla.

                                                                                                                                              1. Antica Pizzeria in Marina Del Rey

                                                                                                                                                1. I forgot Paio for one of the greatest dishes I have ever had in a cafe or restaurant: BBQ Fried Chicken.

                                                                                                                                                  1. Palms Fried Shrimp. odddly enough on Palms Bvld.
                                                                                                                                                    Bit o' Scotland. Loved the beets in the salad and the potato bread rolls.
                                                                                                                                                    La Barbara's. Simply the best
                                                                                                                                                    The Chatham. lunch with mom, always had their sandwich
                                                                                                                                                    Little Joe's
                                                                                                                                                    Trumans. Tiki style coffee shop in Westwood
                                                                                                                                                    Yee Ming Lao. the food sucked but the bar was great
                                                                                                                                                    Wil Wrights. The cookies were great
                                                                                                                                                    And of course my mom's all time favorite, Madam Wu's Garden

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                                                                                                                                                      1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                        Was the food at Little Joe's good? I ate there but, only remember the drunken business meetings and nothing about the food.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: JAB

                                                                                                                                                          The food was fair. It was the only place to go for Italian food in Chinatown. Tommy Lasorda was there every time I went. The place lasted over 50 years.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                            LaSorda also loves Paul's Kitchen too.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                              Saw Lasorda and Al Campanis at Papadakis Tavernia once, they were both dancing with the waiters. Papadakis was probably my favorite Greek restaurant, which is another place that shoudn't have closed. Little Joes was ok, but I just remember going as a kid and I thought it was fun to go to Chinatown and not eat Chinese, but Italian.

                                                                                                                                                            2. re: JAB

                                                                                                                                                              Drunken business meeetins ????

                                                                                                                                                              What more does one need ?

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: JAB

                                                                                                                                                                I walked through Chinatown almost every weekday for decades and ate there a couple of times, my rememberance was the food was very mediocre, but downtown businessmen found the bar area to have good strong drinks.

                                                                                                                                                              2. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                                Kate Mantilini makes a fine "Chatham Sandwich."

                                                                                                                                                              3. I forgot to add Bess Eiler's and the Broken Drum both down in Santa Monica.
                                                                                                                                                                Does any one remember the BBQ place in Westwood where the Chart House was? They also had a second location over in Brentwood right about where the curve is on San Vincente. For the life of me I can't remember the name.

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                                                                                                                                                                1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                                  Love's BBQ ?????

                                                                                                                                                                  or is that not it.

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                    Love's BBQ was on Pico near Beverly Drive. Great BBQ Beans.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                      Found a Love's BBQ menu, Take a look at the prices...

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                        Love's was definitely on San Vicente in the '60's

                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                        No it wasn't Love's and it also wasn't Lum's which was also in Westwood in the 60's. This place was best known for its BBQ beef sandwiches. I will probably have to bug my sister and see if she can remember its name.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, bug your sis already.

                                                                                                                                                                          We're waiting …….

                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                          That Love's was over on Gorham and San Vincente. The place I am thinking of was further east on San Vincente, right past the curve as you drive east. It was several different restaurants over the years, not sure if it is even a restaurant now.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                                            Was it in the same building which now houses Pecorino, and previously was Westside or Westside Grill or before that was Le Central? That address is 11604 San Vicente.
                                                                                                                                                                            But if I recall, there was one restaurant even further around the bend, and I believe it is no longer a restaurant, but more an office use.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: carter

                                                                                                                                                                              Yes it was further around the bend. It is where Edenla furniture store is. Thank you google maps

                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                                              We used to go to the Love's on Pico (south side of the street) near Beverly in the 70's. Website info about Love's can be found here: http://www.oldlarestaurants.com/loves/

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                                                You may be thinking of Gatsby's. It was a pretty happening spot for awhile.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                                                                                  Do you mean the joint manned by chef Robert Gadsby which was located on LaBrea, which has been the Luna Park space for the past decade ???????

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                    No. Maudie means Gatsby's - a Brentwood italian eatery that was filled with locals and local celebs. Opened about the same time as Peppone's, similar to Mateo's.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: yogachik

                                                                                                                                                                                      Ok. Got it. My bad.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Well, I'll also add that I regret the fact that I never made it to

                                                                                                                                                                                      Gadsby's either. :)

                                                                                                                                                                          2. A-1 Chinese BBQ in Lomita. My go-to for Chinese comfort food for almost 30 years. The perfect hole in the wall - no frills, just really good food cooked by someone who loved cooking it and didn't cut corners. Great roast duck, pork, amazing wonton noodle soup, dry-braised string beans actually done right. And seriously the best beef chow fun ever. I will never find that beef chow fun again. *sob*

                                                                                                                                                                            Also miss having a Beijing Islamic restaurant in the South Bay. Yum sesame bread and hand-cut noodles with lamb.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. Madam Woo's, Maryland Crab House, The Mediteranian, Jacks at the Beach....so,many others.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Susangria

                                                                                                                                                                                  There's still one left in the LA area.

                                                                                                                                                                                2. This is really going back a long time...say the 1970's but I rember as a kid going to an Italian deli in Downtown called Dario's (not sure about the spelling), but they had a fantastic Italian meatball sandwich. The deli was really "old school" the tables were large wooden wire spools put on their side.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Knoll's Black Forest Inn. I'm still heartbroken.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Trader Vic's at BH Hilton.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Hamburger Hamlet on Sunset.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: latindancer

                                                                                                                                                                                        Went to TV on our wedding night, it was also the place of our first real date. Still married after 20+++++ years. Miss it bunches, the mini bar TV in the basement of the Hilton really does not cut it. Only went to HH on Sunset a few times but the one in Westwood, so many times. Jerry's is a terrible replacement

                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Not a restaurant, but I do remember Arlene's Donuts on Bundy and Santa Monica back in the day. And my neighbor and I would be stoned and go there around 1:00 AM and the glazed buttermilk bars would be coming out on racks. They'd make us wait until they cooled enough to burn your tongue. And that waiting probably made them better. Sweet, simple days.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        1. Tick Tock
                                                                                                                                                                                          Biff's Magnolia & Lankershim
                                                                                                                                                                                          Ship's all locations
                                                                                                                                                                                          Dino's Victory & Coldwater
                                                                                                                                                                                          Neon Burger Vanowen & Woodman
                                                                                                                                                                                          Steak Burger Woodman & Victory
                                                                                                                                                                                          Steak Pit
                                                                                                                                                                                          Tempura Hiyama Vanowen & Van Nuys
                                                                                                                                                                                          Mai Lin
                                                                                                                                                                                          Beaux Tie Grill
                                                                                                                                                                                          Da Vita's Pizza on La Brea
                                                                                                                                                                                          La Strega
                                                                                                                                                                                          Bud's Red Hots
                                                                                                                                                                                          Shaber's Cafeteria
                                                                                                                                                                                          Pioneer Boulangerie Cafeteria

                                                                                                                                                                                          (because I never made it to them)
                                                                                                                                                                                          Chuck's Better Burgers
                                                                                                                                                                                          House of Kwang

                                                                                                                                                                                          This list is not exhaustive. I'm sure I've missed many others.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Kate is always hungry

                                                                                                                                                                                            Steak Burger was my dad's favorite place. I must have had that burger on an onion roll a hundred times as a kid..... What great memories

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: kingpinjava

                                                                                                                                                                                              Did you dad call it "Greaseburger" like my friends did? I'd love to have one of those hamburgers on a homemade onion roll and a glass of fresh lemonade for lunch today!

                                                                                                                                                                                              BTW, did your father go to Grant High School? :)

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Kate is always hungry

                                                                                                                                                                                                I lived around the corner and used to ride my bike to Steak Burger. Grease-burger is correct.

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Do you remember Chuck's Better Burgers on Sherman Way across from Norm's? It had a root beer barrel soda dispenser.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I really miss Steak/Grease Burger. ;(

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Kate is always hungry

                                                                                                                                                                                                    A little too far for me to ride my bike, We would go to the Union Sub Shop, Steak Burger, Browns Bakery, Tastee Freeze, Pioneer Chicken, Matt and Tony's, Cupid's Hot Dogs & Chris and Pitts…all are now gone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Do you remember an old coffee shop on Victory between Fulton and Coldwater call Mount Carmel? How about the snack bar in Monson's or the snack bar at the Food Giant on Magnolia and Coldwater?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                                                        though there are still tastee freezes inside of el pollo locos i think which is kind of weird and chris and pitt's did have a couple of locations in the OC. but those may have gone too...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                          The Tastee Freezes inside El Pollo Loco are all done as of late last year, they even changed the outdoor signs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Steak burger ?????

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Is that anything like the Apple Pan's steak burger ????

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Steak Burger was a one of a kind stand on Woodman near Victory in Van Nuys in the late 60's and early 70's. One giant gut buster of a burger.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        From Van Nuys Boomers
                                                                                                                                                                                                        "Does anyone remember a small place called Steak Burger that was at 6336 Woodman Ave. in Van Nuys? It was on the east side of the street just south of Victory Blvd. We used to go there back in the 70's. They had very large hamburgers on what I recall seemed like a specially made bun. We would cut classes at Valley College and go there or to Jack in the Box on the other side of Woodman. Then we would go play golf. This is probably why I spent too many years at Valley College and ended up with nothing but memories of cutting classes, it was run by a man who ground his own burger mix and baked his own bun. He would arrive at 4AM and by 11:30 there would be a line around the building. Seating was on steel plates attached to poles that were bolted around the building in front of an attached wood counter that ran around the building, He also served fresh cut skin-on steak fries.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        As I recall, he sold the place in the 80's and little by little the quality diminished. Eventually, it was like any other stand and then it closed. They were yummy!"

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. El Carmen on Beverly. Was my childhood Mexican, first enchilada, first taco, first warm corn tortilla and butter. I also miss the ONLY good Islamic Chinese I have ever been to, called Islamic Chinese on...Valley and New? Would love a new one, but don't suggest that one that looks like a steak house, been there, it's not as good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Seasa

                                                                                                                                                                                                    China Islamic on Garvey just west of Del Mar. Was a relocation from another site, but I don't know where as I only ate at this relocated version.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Always liked their lamb dishes but it has also been at least 3-5 years since I have been.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm not sure if this is the one you are referring to as looking like a steak house or not, but it doesn't to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. The Good Earth, the first healthy restaurant I encountered.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Ogawak

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If by healthy you mean "Piles of Cheese," sure. ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: jesstifer

                                                                                                                                                                                                        At the time, there was none healthier. The best tasting herbal tea

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Ogawak

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Good Earth is still around, right ?????

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Funny you should mention Good Earth, because the one in Studio City just closed a couple weeks ago, after about a hundred years located on Ventura Blvd.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's no wonder, every time I either ate there or went by there the past few years it was a ghost town.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: GK in SO

                                                                                                                                                                                                              They had the best pancakes, by far, of any place I've been to including IHOP, Uncle Johns, DuPar's and Sambo's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: Ogawak

                                                                                                                                                                                                            The tea you can buy at the grocery store (I'm assuming it's the same, not having been to the restaurant). It's fantastic!

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: aching

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Trader Joe's also has it. Relabeled of course, but I'd recognize that unique aroma anywhere, having had it burned into my brain as a kid...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: Ogawak

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Aren't there at least a couple still around in the valleys? My wife loved them; I hated them!

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: silverlakebodhisattva

                                                                                                                                                                                                            The one in Studio City closed at the end of January.
                                                                                                                                                                                                            I agree with your assessment.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        3. i've mentioned it recently: wing hing deli which was at the current site of tasty garden in alhambra. toisan cooking at its humblest/finest! they made a steamed minced pork with egg white. cornstarch and water chestnuts topped with chinese sausage that i could eat with about 2 lbs of rice. and both sisters looked a lot like my mom.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: barryc

                                                                                                                                                                                                            The islamic Chinese is a pretty nice room, I want to say it has a beamed ceiling. It has a parking lot around it. Anyway, it's ok, but not as good as that one the giant mall on Valley.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Great topic.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Stellini's on Pico
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hampton's in Hollywood

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: bigredd

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Though come to think of it, the moderators might not like this topic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Does anyone remember A&W Root Beer on Wilshire in Santa Monica? The car service was a blast.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: whatsfordinner

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I remember A&W...there was also one on the corner of Venice Bl and Sepulveda for a while...after a little known drive in closed there, called The Track, which delivered your food in a covered tray to your window for the first time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Before there was a 405 fwy. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Kelbo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  there's still an a and w on the venice beach boardwalk.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Vickman's;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Uzbekistan, and Glider Inn in Huntington Beach (for the Woman In The Hat);
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Mo Bettah Meaty Meat Burgers;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Gorky's (first incarnation);
                                                                                                                                                                                                                the tiny BBQ stand that used to be on the SW corner of Pico and LaBrea (Carl's?);
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ichiban Cafe in J-Town,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Seafood Bay on Sunset,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Grandview Garden's dim-sum take-out window;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Cemitas Pal Cabron;
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Pioneer Bakery Boulangerie.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: silverlakebodhisattva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I heard Carl's was the shit for great BBQ.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And I do really miss Mo Better Meatyy meat but supposedly it's now in the former Greeces/Carl's BBQ location on La Brea, near 9th.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: silverlakebodhisattva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I remember a BBQ place on south LaBrea called Lou's. I can't place the cross street however. It was the first time I ever had BBQ goat, until I moved to St. Louis for school where it was actually sorta common.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: silverlakebodhisattva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      What was the first and what was the second incarnation of Gorky's?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I only know one circa '84-5

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And good for you recalling Pioneer Bakery/Boulangerie AND Seafood Bay

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: VenusCafe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My only recollection of Gorky's began in "88 and continued until it closed for good in '92 or '93. 8th street and Julian.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Wasn't aware of another locale

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: VenusCafe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Gorky's "first incarnation" was while the original owner still had control, pre-brew-pub, pre-Hollywood branch, you k know, "before it was cool"....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. How about Gustaf Anders in Costa Mesa, across from South Coast Plaza. Great Swedish cooking, and a fantastic Julbord at Christmas. Irreplaceable.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: SuburbanBohemian

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh yes, Gustav Anders is one of my all-time favorites. That is definitely one that I miss dearly. Every meal was outstanding. We would drive out there from Chatsworth--about 2 hours away--for dinner.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Three more just came to mind:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Tung Lai Shan - For the incredible scallion & sesame bread and niu rou mien (with wide knife-cut noodles)...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mako - For their Nouveau Japonais bento boxes...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            L'Escoffier - For the fun of seeing the Old Money and Movie Stars...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: J.L.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I loved Mako on Beverly right ? Not the sushi bar in Weller Court, right ?????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              They made this exceptional whole main lobster in a coconut saffron curry sauce. Well-modulated pure Bliss and not a bit treacly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Fred Eric's Vida in Los Feliz - had the most memorable Valentine's dinner there in the early '90s that was a collaboration between Fred and Bob Blumer (The Surreal Gourmet)!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ken Frank's Le Toque on Sunset @ Crescent Heights - My first all-truffle dinner (black truffles), even the ice cream had flecks... well, it was shocking 25 years ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Cinnabar in Glendale - for the 1930's Shanghai ambiance and the fantastic bar.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: FranklinJefferson

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I miss Vida, too. It was the first bar in LA that took cocktails to the next level, created the current "mixologist"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: yogachik

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Damn, I missed both.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I especially would have loved loved loved to have hit up La Toque.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: FranklinJefferson

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I loved all yur picks (well, almost all), Franklin.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Had a bad experience at a Vida dinner (Fred Eric's place) starring Bob Blumer (as chef). The server spilled a glass of wine on my husband's good leather jacket. They didn't do anything, so (naturally!) I complained. Bob Blumer, as guest chef, offered us free cookbooks and lithographs, but Fred Eric ignored us (and we wrote to him several times! Okay, maybe 3 times - but that's a lot!) Wouldn't even pay for the dry cleaning.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Neither of us will ever forget it. We will always "diss" Fred Eric and NEVER go back to any establishment. AND I will always remember that Bob Blumer had class!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: FranklinJefferson

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    In the los feliz area I will always remember Duplex, run by Mark & Stephanie Carter - no relation btw.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Trumps was also a very special place for special occasions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. I don't know that I would use three "reallys" to describe how much I miss it, but I really liked Grace on Beverly Blvd. and was sorry to see it close. I've been hearing for years that it's going to reopen downtown at Vibiana, but no sign of it yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Tokyo Kaikan in Little Tokyo:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      They had a great tempura bar in the 1970's complete with deep-fried ice cream.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      They also had a sushi bar before they became popular in LA where they actually invented the California Roll.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My cousin from Tokyo says they serve California Rolls there.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't know why they went under; It was my favorite restaurant in Little Tokyo beside Horikawa.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Ogawak

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You just made me think of Zipangu in Santa Monica. Great Japanese food and their pastas were also exceptional. Broadway @ Lincoln on the SE corner.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. I miss the Authentic Cafe and Chianti Cucina.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: yogachik

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I think we have the same tastes - I liked both of those restaurants too!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Henry Moffett's Chicken Pie Shop, Bellflower. A split-off from the other Moffett's, and in many ways better: they had fried chicken too, and it was some of the best I'd ever tasted, and their chicken and noodles was a fine variation on the pie theme using the same chicken and gravy. Mrs O's favorite thing was the excellent fries, with which you could get their house-made Green Goddess dressing. They did a constant business at the pie counter, not so much in the dining room, and closed quite a few years ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. So many have already been mentioned.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LA Barberas
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Tick Tock
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Authentic Cafe
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Top's Hamburgers on LaBrea and Olympic originally on sw corner then moved to see corner which is now Top Round.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Andre's on Wilshire
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Fairfax Hungarian Restaurant
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My favorite. Robaire's on La Brea still run into Mr Robaire
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Dick Webster's
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Taco Tah on Beverly Blvd
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Danny's Dogs
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Orange Whinzit
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Deli's Bagel, Stage, Fritzi
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Curries Ice Cream
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            drive Ins. Tiny Naylor's on Sunset. Bob's Big Boys

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: paprkutr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Can you further describe Orange Whiznit and Curries Ice Cream ???????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks a bunch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The Orange Whinzit was a hamburger drive in on Wilshire Blvd right near Dolores.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Curries was a big ice cream place. I don't remember a lot I was very young.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: paprkutr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I miss Swensen's. There was one in Encino that was a traditional ice cream shop. Then they opened in the Galleria. Now I want some Sticky Chewy Chocolate.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mon Grenier. The best bouillabaise in the city.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  China Inn in Encino. It closed in the 80s and I have not found comparable kung pao chicken.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Pinot Bistro in Studio City.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Red Onion (the original)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hamptons on Highland. The burgers, with all their odd combinations of toppings were good, but they also had great potato salad and incredible desserts (the "Chocolate Mort" -- as in death -- was aptly named).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'll also echo those who miss Love's (mostly for the baked beans) and Wiener Factory.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: paprkutr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Great list. Thanks for Tops. Was trying to think of name. Drove many miles for burgers there

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Carnations
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Van de Camps
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Helms Trucks
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Eat a Pita
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Little Joe's. Went with my dad all the time. He loved it, it was our special place.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Brown's Bakery on Wilshire.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: paprkutr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh my lord, the Helms truck...there was nothing better than the smell that smacked you in the face as the guy rolled out the wooden racks of fresh baked heaven (I was always partial to the jelly donuts, so fresh and SO full of jelly, not like most jelly donuts these days that just have a frickin' thimble's full of jelly!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Really, was there a jelly shortage somewhere? ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: GK in SO

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The good old days when the food came to you. Hey, they were the first food trucks ever, well at least in my life. Loved the chocolate chip cookies, my brother liked their potato chips. And the cold milk in glass bottles delivered to the door by Arden Dairy. Good times, good times.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Moivy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Since you mentioned milk in glass bottles, I'll add Jessup's drive-thru dairies. There was one on Fulton just north of Victory Blvd. You could get milk, chocolate milk, OJ, eggs and other goodies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Kate is always hungry

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think the name was Adohr Farms, not Arden that delivered the milk in the bottles. The milk was always so cold. We are lucky that we have a great drive through dairy in town, Huell Howser's favorite place, Broguires in Montebello

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Moivy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes Moivy, my grandfather was a milkman for Adohr Farms. Adohr was Rhoda spelled backwards. Rhoda Ringe was the daughter of the Ringes who owned all of Malibu back in the late 1800's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: malibumike

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks Mike, If he had a route in Montebello, maybe he was our milkman.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Moivy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moivy, he actually had a pretty good route in Beverly Hills, worked out of the distribution center on La Ciegna?? where Montgomery Wards took over the site, used to go into the lobby and you could drink all the milk, buttermilk, or chocolate milk you could hold haha.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: GK in SO

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Loved the Helms truck -- a fond memory of my youth in SoCal. When you heard that distinctive air horn, you knew it was time. You'd flag him down, and he would stop and swing open the back doors to that panel truck, and there were all those drawers full of great donuts, yeah. I don't think I've had a glazed donut that compares, since. We could buy individual donuts (6c, IIRC), or if we were lucky, Mom would spring for a box of six.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. How about the Adriatic in Beverly Hills? My dad loved it because it had some Slovene dishes that were close to my dad's heart. There was also a Swiss place in BH and all can remember were all the cheese dishes

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Weight Watcher's style restaurant – N. side of Pico, just E. of Robertson - L.A. (Unknown lady's name, Virginia?)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Although, in some instances, we are fortunate to still have the chefs or owners among us at other establishments, here are some places worth missing that I was surprised not to have seen yet:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Bastide (in several, but not all, of its incarnations);

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Bier Beisel (supposedly reopening elsewhere);


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Jimmy's (who just passed away--the original location);


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              L'Orangerie (with most of its chefs);

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ortolan (periodically, Chef Eme tweets of the chance of a new place);

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Rangoon Racquet Club (you can still get good Scotch Eggs at King's Head, though);

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Rex (though his wife does a lovely job at Vincenti);

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Richard Mei's King Dragon (real NY egg rolls but also lobster rolls!);

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Trumps (not to be confused with Trump National)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: New Trial

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Completely agree with lamenting the loss of L'Orangerie, Bastide (a la Ludo, before the mega-fame), and Ortolan...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: New Trial

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I just thought about another one time favorite--Camelions, back when Elka Gilmore was chef.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: New Trial

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Loved Camelions. I believe that site morphed into Chez Mimi and now it is Villetta (which has filed for bankruptcy). It will be interesting to see what goes in there next.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Probably an outpost of Settebello.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I think that the rents up there in the 90049 would preclude the Settebello's or others in the same category. Not to mention that particular setting lends itself more to the Bastide type of place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: New Trial

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Was rackin my brain for the name of Rangoon Raquet Club. Thanks

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. BeBe Cafe in Arcadia. It was there in that strip mall joint with the Tapioca Express and previous Treasure Island and 99ct store. They had really really great orange chicken, never had anything like it before. It was kind of a mix between legit orange peels and a vinegary Shanghai sweet and sour rib sauce.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Whenever I pass that joint, whatever it is now Guilin noodle house or something? I still get cravings.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Del Conte in Torrance..what it's been at least 15 -20 years maybe?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Tin Sing Chinese Restaurant in Gardena and Papadakis in San Pedro...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. The Islander Restaurant on La Cienega Blvd. It would rain inside the restaurant once an hour.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Rain inside the joint >????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Whatever happened to all these themed restaurants.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Planet Hollywood and Rainforest Cafe both kind of ruined it for theme restaurants.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I kinda miss The Islander too. Kitch-y fun.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            They also had a great prime rib.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3. Some of these go way back, and others aren't terribly original, but:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Gustaf Anders
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mangga Grill
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bouchon (the one on Melrose near Fairfax)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Tung Lai Shan
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Espresso Bar (Old Town Pasadena, pre-gentrification)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Terried Sake House
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            El Encanto
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bahooka (not for the food, natch...)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Kruang Tedd
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bric Montrose
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Grotto di Capri (yeah, the pasta was mediocre, but they did a proper at-your-table Caesar with raw eggs, anchovies, garlic, the works)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Bradbury

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Channeling my wife I'll add the Magic Pan in Beverly Hills in her honor. I liked it, but she loved it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  A (chain) that specialized in crepes. I really liked them as well.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Also- La Masia...a Spanish restaurant that was next to The Troubador.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Tootsies, Tarzana...used to get Caesar salad and their popovers.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And someone else mentioned Swensen's!! I loved them. Apparently they still have many locations...mostly in other countries but a few here including SFO.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: amylovesla

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks for La Masia. That was a great place

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: amylovesla

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Swensen's website store locator is pretty much useless. Any idea where _any_ west coast locations are, aside from the original store on Russian Hill in San Francisco? Searching Los Angeles comes up with nothing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have fond memories, especially of a flavor called Taffy Apple.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, the Magic Pan! I used to go there with my mother. She loved the cheese blintz crepes topped with fresh strawberries and sour cream. My favorite was the ratatouille crepe.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sevorg, what was the crepe they served at the Magic Pan with ice cream and chocolate, and I think it had whipped cream??

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        they served both savory crepes and dessert crepes at the magic pan. One of my favorites was the creamed chicken.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wish I could recall. My wife always got the dessert crepe that had fresh strawberries in season.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Magic Pan had this awesome cheese fritters app with dipping sauce. It was delicious. <sobbing quietly>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: orythedog

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LOVED The Magic Pan. There was a savory ham & chesse-style crepe that they called a palascinta (sp?) I think. I really loved it!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            mmm. Magic Pan. My memory is for the one in San Francisco -- hope that's allowed. :o) Just loved their cheese crepes with mustard sauce.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        3. Oh, and I forgot the Magic Carpet on Pico for melawach, really really really miss that place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And does anyone happen to know if they resurfaced anwyereh else ?????


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Shoot, i also forgot to mention that I really really really really really miss:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Rubin's Red Hot in Sherman Oaks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The faux pièce of the El train track is still there and there's still a hanging for lease sign.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I always get misty-eyed when I drive by there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I see Rubin's Red Hots almost every day. I always think about the nice man who owned the place. Wish I'd had one last BBQ beef sandwich before it closed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Is there a chance any one remembers Edna Earle's Fog Cutter on La Brea at Hollywood?? Oh the garlic bread and the menu!! I'll save the part about the menu.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Never went there but I found an interesting article about Edna and the restaurant here:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I remember its being there, yet while I ate there at least twice, nothing sticks in my memory about the place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    One of the waitresses told my mom about the Fog Cutter. That became our go-to family celebration restaurant for a for a few years. Too bad I don't remember the garlic bread. Daddy always admonished us not to fill up on bread!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Kate is always hungry

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You missed having a cloud of garlic and butter floating on a piece of toasted bread. What a shame. There's not much in the way of garlic bread today that comes close. Do I hear a challenge? The best around today, I suggest, is the Smoke House, and that's a restaurant that's still around.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My favorite by far. Is the garlic cheese bread at Tanas.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I repeat. By far.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Nuff said.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. The Egg and the Eye. Wilshire east of Fairfax. I was pretty young when I used to go with my parents...so I'm not sure if it was really that good...but I loved it back then (70's).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: jjw

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      THe Egg and the Eye was, for me, the start of Los Angeles
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      being a unique foodster haven; hip and trendy was not so big in LA at the time, but this started the ball rolling.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. BIt of Sweden in Long Beach, and later in San Diego
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Wong's in Westmionster
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hong Kong Chop Suey in Long Beach
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Eat A Pita
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Original Clifton's on Broadway

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: ChefRoux

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Clifton's on Broadway was a winner. So many choices and what surroundings. Oh my goodness!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Clifton's is coming back with some of the original recipes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It it's original Broadway location. 5 million dollar remodel is going on now. Hopefully should be open by the end of this years.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: ChefRoux

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow, Bit of Sweden, haven't seen that name in so long. Our family used to frequent the Bit of Sweden Smorgasbord in Alhambra

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Can you describe Trumps further ????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Did te chef pass on a few years ago ??????


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: paprkutr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm from a small town in CT. There were no Chinese restaurants back then. I had never had Chinese food until I went to Kowloons. It was truly 'love at first bite' even tho I've had better Chinese food at other places.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. I miss Nickodell. I could go to Musso & Frank, I guess, but it's really not the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I miss Tama Sushi in Studio City. Katsu's place was heavenly, especially when compared to the hell of Nozawa up the street. Katsu moved to Beverly Hills, into the wrong location, and went away.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I miss the Skyline Chili that briefly came to Van Nuys Blvd. The late owner of Chili My Soul promised me he would do a Cincinnati chili, but didn't live long enough to make it happen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I miss Abiquiu. There's been nothing resembling New Mexican cuisine in LA since it departed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I, too, miss Cassel's burgers, Pinot Bistro and Wiener Factory, like everybody else.But I especially miss Ekberg's Steak House.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: farmertomato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Loved Nickodell! Got to go there one last time before they closed! How did I forget them in my list?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Another favorite was the Red Lantern Inn in North Hollywood or, as it is now called, Valley Village.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: farmertomato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ahhh... Abiquiu!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Never made it there but had dinner at Bikini (Sedlar's earlier resto in the same location) 5 or 6 times before the earthquake. Fantastic experience every time!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: farmertomato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I only went to Tama once and couldn't wait to go back! By the time we were ready to hit it again, it was gone. So sad.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh, Nidkodell! I used to love that bar, always Adam West at the bar, telling stories (and he's very funny!). Then we'd go to Small's, afterward, for more drinks. I miss Smalls, too

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: farmertomato

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I went to Nickodell after I was on Engineer Bill on KHJ-TV across the street. Red Light Green Light….

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Ships
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          M & M;s (Pasadena location)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: foufou

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I would drive a long way for a Ship Shape Burger about now! I miss the old Citrus as well...I have been to Michel's place in D.C. a few times but it is not the same!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I also miss Scandia, Chasens, Shanghai Winter Garden, CC Browns...but especially the Cock and Bull on the Sunset Blvd.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Few more:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mike's Pizza (anyone remember the rolls). Great greasy pepperoni pizza.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Original i & Joy Bagel (best kettle boiled bagels ever).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mandarin Beverly Hills

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ah Fongs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Trader Vics

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Can't believe I forgot Bullocks Wilshire tea room.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: BubblyOne

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Or the one at the Westwood Bullock's

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Enoteca Drago.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                In particular, I miss Garret (now in Hawaii).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Inai's Char Broiler on Centinela near Lincoln. A little coffee shop that served something called a Hawaiian Royale for breakfast - cha siu, portugese sausage, onions and eggs in an open faced omelet over a plate of rice. She made her own Cha siu and a neighbor made the sausage.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Scrapironchef

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    As far as I know Centinela and Lincoln don't cross one another and I don't see any place on Google with that name (Inai or Inai's). Can you give more on the location or is this place spelled differently perhaps?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Brain GPS error, I meant Culver. The place is long gone as the owner died of a brain tumor. It's now a beauty salon - Next to Sakura Restaurant.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Scrapironchef

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That's okay because I was having a total "senor moment" myself forgetting which thread this was (places long gone from the scene) and I was getting all excited by the possibility of the place being near me and it sounded great. Damn!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You would have liked it, 5 4 seat booths 1 two top and 4 seats at a counter. You parked in back, walked in through the kitchen told the cook what you wanted and grabbed a cup of coffee for yourself. Mostly regulars from the neighborhood nisei/sansei.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Scrapironchef

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What was the name of this place ?????


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Sounds great.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Inai's Teriyaki Char Broiler officially, everybody just called it Inai's. Inai was the Issei woman who owned it but she had grown up in Hawaii IIRC.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. I have to agree with others about Will Wrights and The Wiener Factory. At Will Wrights I would get a sundae with a scoop of regular whipped cream and a scoop of chocolate whipped cream, no sauce. I also miss Moskva Cliffs and near that was a small Italian restaurant called Villa Castriota. It was in what used to be a small house. The lights would dim often during dinner. They lost that location and moved to Tarzana but that location didn't last long.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Perroche in Studio City, subsequently home to Emmanuel, an American Bistro, Trattoria Frascati, Angelino, then Outtake Bistro, and now home to La Ventura, a Mexican place.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Perroche was still the best of a wide variety of concepts.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too bad Grady and Stuart could not get along. Both knew so much about how to operate their portion of the house - Grady in the kitchen and Stuart as FOH.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And of course, Max in Sherman Oaks, now home to Brats Bros. Max was soooo good, and every night was an adventure in new flavors.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: carter

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        max was great. i really do miss that place too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        the weiner factory as well. i'm still mad at pinkberry for forcing them out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: cdub

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah and pink berry never even showed up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Steve2 in LA

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          OK, folks.Let's see if we can get this straightened out:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It's "WIENER" (WEE-NER), not "WEINER (WHY-NER). My name is Weiner, I don't make hot dogs and I'm not 'whining' about it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. There was a dive sub shop on Arbervitta on the way to the Fourm in the 70s that made unreal meatball subs. Anyone know what I am talking about?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That sounds beyond exceptional.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: carter

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              What was Julie's all about ?????

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I just remember that there was a pool patio in the center of the restaurant and that it was the first time I ever saw ice in a men's urinal. That was in 1968. I also remember the coach of the Rams used to meet there with the team and go over plays over a drink or two back in the 60s. The food in todays lingo was bar/pub with hamburgers being the center of attraction.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Well, before or after an SC game, and to a lesser extent a ucla game, at the Coliseum, the place was jamming with fans. Booze was its raison d'etre on those days, and to a lesser extent on all other days.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But as Hugh stated, burgers were a focus.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But if you went to SC and wanted to meet friends for dinner or a drink after work, then it was always high on the list of places to go.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, a few others back then, but Julie's was the top choice.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Think of it as a college restaurant/bar, just like you might find in places like Columbus,Ohio or Ann Arbor, Michigan, just sporting a different color scheme!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: carter

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Damn, it would have been great to go there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. There was a place in Palms on Overland called "Metropolis" I think, in the mid 90's ... :( I may have been the only one who liked it, but I *really* liked it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Phone booths on every street corner for quick clothes changes...The Daily Planet newspaper and some guy in tights with a red cape leaping over tall buildings in a single bound.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And the most underachieving police force on the planet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: aliris

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Funny, there was also a place called Metropolis in Irvine in the mid-90s (complete with Art-Nouveau Parisian metro entrance facade), and I think I might have been the only one who liked it ... probably because I was so much younger then, and it was the only nightclub that actually had a decent sushi bar.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. I love wonderful Scandinavian food, and no place did it better than did Scandia in the '70s and '80s in its heyday. It slipped quite a bit shortly before it closed, but in its prime, it was spectacular!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Gustav Anders was a terrific Swedish restaurant in OC (although not in a league with Scandia). Sadly it is also gone for many years.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I miss these places so very much, not only because they were excellent restaurants, but also there are currently no Scandinavian restaurants (that I know of) in southern CA. Please don't tell me to go to Ikea!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: josephnl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The reason Scandia slipped was entirely due to the death of Kenneth Hansen. He was the owner and a man of impeccable integrity and manners. He was legendary not only for his wonderful food but for the kind way he treated his employees. Robert Petersen could never replicate Mr. Hansens vision

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Chez Puce closed many years ago after a fire, but I still long for her simple mozzarella and butter crepes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Also miss the skinless, boneless fried chicken with corn pudding at Gilliland's and wish Gerry would offer it at Finn McCool's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And greatly miss Orleans for great Cajun on the westside.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: arancini

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            OMG, Chez Puce!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I remember Puce coming out from behind her stove to confront me b/c I asked the waitress why the mushrooms were NOT fresh, as stated on the menu, but were obviously canned. It was either an omlet or a crepe. Canned button mushrooms.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. I miss Maurice's Snack n Chat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Does anyone happen to know if she is still alive and kicking ?????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. add Barney Greengrass to this list…
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              From LA Eater "Barney Greengrass, the expensive Jewish deli/cafe on the fifth floor of Barneys in Beverly Hills, in now functioning as Barneys New York Restaurant with a reworked bill of fare. The Hollywood Reporter says that come May the eatery popular with deep-pocketed deal-makers will shutter for a three month facelift and relaunch as Fred's, the New American restaurant"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                No great loss there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That joint was super pricy to me at least, and just not worth. A couple mingy slices of smoked salmon, a subpar bagel, and some nondescript cream cheese for the sum of $40 ??????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                No thank you.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am in total agreement. Their sandwiches didn't even rise to level of meh...way over priced for something that would have any aficionado of Bay Cities laughing like crazed Hyenas in total derision when they saw what they had been served at Barney's...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Unfortunately you both must have missed their distinquished array of smoked fish. EXCELLENT answer to the Godmother on bad bread.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bay Cities? Waaaaay overpraised.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Georgio's for Chicago Italian Beef Sandwiches in Aliso Viejo.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: JAB

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Is it still around ?????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Wow, I want to hit it up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I thought it closed years ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: JAB

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My bad forgot what thread this was.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. La Toque
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Le Dome
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ma Maison
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Au Petit Café
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Lipp (Fred Eric's place on Melrose)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Au Petit Café
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Kathy Gallagher's
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Fenix (on Beverly Drive)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Shin (on Hillhurst)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Vida Hymie's Fish Market
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ritz Café
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Windsor (and the similar place across the street0
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Rex Il Ristorante
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Central Park (in Brentwood)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Rangoon Racquet Club
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Ginger Man
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    7th Street Bistro

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: martan

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Please describe the Lipp and Kathy Gallaghr's further.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The Lipp was on Melrose in a bistro setting with clever takes (kind of an homage) on brasserie food. It was prior to Fred Eric opening Vida on Hillhurst. Great place, great food, great prices, short longevity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Kathy Gallagher's was on Third just east of Robertson and it was an airy place with light wood floors and "California cuisine" before it was clichéd. Great ambience.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: martan

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Agree about La Toque, Trumps and Chianti. All great restaurants.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Absolutely, La Toque. Still go to the one in Napa, but the one on Sunset was great. Ken Frank would turn up the Clapton while cooking the themed late night dinners.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: TruJavaLvr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            First one to serve all truffle dinners.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes!! And his all garlic dinner was amazing too! Always liked the way he prepared duck.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: martan

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Boy did I love Carol O'Connor's The Ginger Man in Beverly Hills. I will never forget the day that Harvey Lembeck introduced me to Jack Lemmon and even after Harvey left Jack stayed and told me stories for 5 straight hours. One of my favorite days ever.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That reminds me that I forgot that I really missed Manny's Bistro in Westwood.