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Jury Duty Downtown - Where Should I Eat?

Starting jury duty tomorrow, Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center, 210 West Temple Street. Any suggestions on where to eat lunch would be greatly appreciated.

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  1. Mendocino Farms for terrific sandwiches and salads.

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    1. re: perk

      Just bear in mind their menu is definitely FUB™, and so the prices reflect that.

      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8531...

      Also, don't make the mistake that I did of ordering the chicken prosciutto sandwich, which I found out from Chowhounds (after the fact) that it's is the worst thing on the menu. That, and an extremely small cup of soup, set me back about $15. Ridiculous.

      To be fair, I really should give it another shot, but that experience left such a bad taste in my mouth, I'm not likely to go back.

      Mr Taster

    2. lots of good places in jtown. suehiro cafe for example

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      1. re: barryc

        Near Daikokuya and Suehiro is the much better Marugame Monzo, complete with "floor show" of the udon master making and cutting noodles right before your eyes.

      2. You are within an easy walk (or Dash Bus) to the Grand Central Market - with all the old and new restaurants. (Eggslut, mmm....)

        Here's a yelp review of your courthouse that also lists restaurant possibilities -

        http://www.yelp.com/biz/clara-shortri...

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          1. re: wienermobile

            For those who care about such things (though admittedly I seem to be the only one.)

            I can't get past the name.

            I say this not because it's "comically salacious", but because it smacks of an attempt to be so intentionally edgy and funny that it ceases to be either. Also, the name is designed to appeal to a very narrow, specific demographic of Angelino. It is exclusionary.

            To illustrate, which can you more likely envision your 85 year old grandmother saying-- "Let's go to Jan's for breakfast" or "Let's go to eggslut for breakfast"?

            Now picture a couple of 28 year old hipsters who just arrived from Missouri and are trying to figure out what it is to be an Angelino. What will their choice be? Jan's or eggslut? They probably won't even know about Jan's.

            None of this admittedly has anything to do with the food at eggslut, which I hear is very good. It's just a shame that the vast majority of customers who will discover their food will be young creative types, and that is-- not in whole, but in part-- eggslut's doing. There's nothing wrong at all with the 85 year old grandma demographic. If I had a restaurant, I'd do everything in my power to ensure that they (along with as many Angelenos as possible) are included in the fold. And yes, that would mean having affordable, non-FUB™* priced items on the menu, because one thing that will scare off the 85 year old gradma demo faster than anything is FUB™ prices.

            See photo, attached, from a few weekends ago. (I was across the street, getting one of my knives sharpened at Ross Cutlery.) It's hard to tell, but it's all 20-30 year old white people at the eggslut counter. They are expressing their individuality by dressing similarly. Many have beards.

            And just to the left and right of the eggslut counter-- at Jose's Ice Cream and at the Michoacan carnitas stand-- a much more accurate and inclusive representation of Angelenos, with prices to match.

            Mr Taster

            *FUB™
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9122...

             
            1. re: Mr Taster

              if your grandma was betty white she'd love the eggslut.

              1. re: ns1

                I thought Betty White has a salacious predilection for muffins ????????

                1. re: kevin

                  i have follow-up comments, but they are not appropriate for chowhound.

                  1. re: ns1

                    Ok, email me off-board, if it's funny.

              2. re: Mr Taster

                Sort of like someone who keeps trying to make an acronym popular despite disliking acronyms?

                1. re: Mr Taster

                  also, the slut there is quite pricey at about 9 bucks a pop.

                  Definitely fubar style prices.

                  1. re: kevin

                    Assuming you meant FUB™, but FUBAR works too :)

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military...

                    Mr Taster

                    1. re: Mr Taster

                      my bad. maybe either one works ?????

                    1. re: JAB

                      I was mesmerized by the beards... though there were probably hats, too :)

                      Mr Taster

                        1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                          How can a mustache be ironic ? I just don't get it.

                    2. re: Mr Taster

                      I do not know about this one Taster. I think it is a good (actually, a great) name that, on balance,probably brings them more business, from folks of all ages and persuasions, than Egg Lover would.

                      1. re: Ciao Bob

                        Also, one has to remember that they were originally a food truck before becoming brick and mortar. Would they have gone with that name had they not been a food truck first?

                        1. re: Ciao Bob

                          Ah, but if I need to illustrate the differences to you between the terms "slut" and "lover", I think we've got a much longer conversation ahead of us!

                          Mr Taster

                        2. re: Mr Taster

                          I don't get it, why can't our Grandmothers have a sense of humor about a place called Eggslut?

                          Maybe I just don't understand because I'm one of the hated hipsters...idk...

                          It just seems a bit overly puritanical to me to say that not everyone can be in on the fun. I feel like they take things like this less seriously in, say, Europe. I don't know.

                          We have enough old diners with $2 eggs don't we? Why shouldn't Los Angeles have an Eggslut that is its own thing? Isn't that what gives a city an identity?

                          1. re: BacoMan

                            Given that the word slut was popular with 20somethings in the 70's, which was 40 years ago, seems to me grandmothers would be fine with the word.

                            Try to head over to MOCA with your 90 minute break, after you have that sandwich at Langers

                            1. re: BacoMan

                              >> I don't get it, why can't our Grandmothers have a sense of humor about a place called Eggslut?

                              I'm talking about demographic trends, not what individuals choose to do. Individuals can choose to do anything. Conversely, the collective behavior of a group often tells a different story. Think of birds flying south for the winter in an arrow formation. At any given time, one bird might be flying west. But as a group, they're collectively flying south. Betty White is that anomalous grandma bird who is flying west.

                              >> Why shouldn't Los Angeles have an Eggslut that is its own thing? Isn't that what gives a city an identity?

                              I agree that having a cadre of restaurants that specifically cater to one narrow demographic of the city's hungry people certainly does help to give a city its identity. Whether or not that's an identity I personally embrace is another issue entirely.

                              Now that I think about it, that does bring up an interesting counterpoint. LA is filled with restaurants and businesses that cater specifically to one demographic or another. Chances are, I may be the only Chinese speaking white guy at a strip mall in Temple City-- can I fault the owners for not making more of an effort to cater to non-Chinese speaking white guys?

                              Here's the difference. I think the reason I pick on hipsters is because of the falseness that goes along with it. When I see a 25 year old with a full-on 1970's style beard, it's almost like they're playing dress up. As if they're wearing an oversized costume beard for a joke, to make fun of their Dad's ridiculous 70's lumberjack beard, which he actually wore because he thought it looked good-- not because he was trying to make fun of his own Dad's beard. So the beard becomes more than a beard. It's not a beard, so much as it's a statement that this person has a sense of humor about beards. It is that it is not. And trendy businesses like eggslut play on that sense of playful irreverence that appeals to the hipsters so well, but that I find grating and insincere.

                              The Chinese immigrant guy who is running a business slinging noodles is not trying to be anything other than what he is. There is no sense of irony or falseness about this type of business, just as there is no insincerity about an institution like Philippe's, for example. These restaurants do what they do as a direct outreach and extension of their culture and history, and not as some kind of overthought, ironic interpretation or reinvention of a classic. It is that it is, and I respect that.

                              Mr Taster

                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                In advance, this post might come across antagonistic...I don't mean for it to be. I'm just trying to open up a dialogue from "the other side", so please read my post with a tone of naiveté, and not of sarcastic questioning if possible. Apologies in advance if it comes across poorly.

                                "Here's the difference. I think the reason I pick on hipsters is because of the falseness that goes along with it. When I see a 25 year old with a full-on 1970's style beard, it's almost like they're playing dress up. "

                                Ok, but that's your interpretation of them right?

                                I'm pretty much in the demographic you are talking about, and I have to say, I think the period where that hipster uniform was a badge of irony is long gone. The majority of people you see looking like that just legitimately think it looks good.

                                I guess I am not sure why that would be surprising, is it because 70's beards aren't supposed to look good? Or because you can't believe they've "come back"?

                                I'm not trying to attack, just wondering where this idea comes from exactly. I've never actually met anyone that was wearing a hipster uniform, or a beard as more of a form of "dress up" than all of us engage in on a daily basis to be able to go out into society legally.

                                "And trendy businesses like eggslut play on that sense of playful irreverence that appeals to the hipsters so well, but that I find grating and insincere."

                                Maybe you're right, I'm not entirely sure what you mean though, but if you mean they are pretending to be anti-authoritarian or something like that, well, haven't restaurants and entertainment centers have been trying to be "cool" places of rebellion forever? What is new about this iteration that makes it particularly grating?

                                Maybe part of the problem is that in the current iteration of "hipness" there actually IS a real association of "cool" and "good food". I have no idea how it came about, but I suspect it has to do with a rebellious ethos against corporate farming. Somehow this translated to the farm-to-table trend it seems like. A lot of the restaurants you would want to eat at, at least in LA, are places frequented by "hipsters". I ate at Bäco Mercat last night, and there was not a single "normal" looking person in the whole place, but last Sunday night all the people from the Grammy's were dining there... regardless, it has some of the city's best food, and yet it is clearly tied very closely to the "cool" factor.

                                Maybe in the past the "cool" set" and the "normal" set have never been so closely intertwined and the its the crossover that is causing abrasion?

                                You say this, "There is no sense of irony or falseness about this type of business, just as there is no insincerity about an institution like Philippe's,"

                                So I guess my question is, is there some kind of insincerity at Bäco to you?

                                If so, what is it exactly?

                                And I'm not against classics. I'm eating a solidly "normal" turkey and ham hoagie right now for lunch (admittedly at All About The Bread which I guess is another hipster-ivied, and insincere place to eat unfortunately for me).

                                Or maybe I'm just so deep into the demographic you dislike that I can't see why you dislike the demographic?

                                I hope that we can maybe learn something from each other in the following dialogue.

                                1. re: BacoMan

                                  Cannot wait to see how long the moderators allow this to sit here. From my point of view you can replace the word hipsters in Taster's rants on this subject with stylish folks. Same diff. but one is pejorative and the other flattering.

                                    1. re: Ciao Bob

                                      Too abrasive? idk how else to make my post =/

                                      1. re: BacoMan

                                        Abrasiveness is my middle name, or rather my nom de plum.

                              2. re: Mr Taster

                                I love this bete noire of yours. Your old man rantings keep me feeling younger than I have a right to.

                                I mean, now you're complaining that Eggslut might not be welcoming to the 85 YO demographic? Priceless!

                                1. re: cacio e pepe

                                  >> I love this bete noire of yours. Your old man rantings keep me feeling younger than I have a right to.

                                  I'm here to entertain :) By the way, I'm 39 going on 80.

                                  Mr Taster

                                  1. re: Mr Taster

                                    37 . . . with a completely unironic beard.

                                2. re: Mr Taster

                                  II also dislike the name, for much the same reason that I dislike the names of the dishes at A-Frame or Cafe Gratitude, it just feels very silly and gimmicky.

                                  I haven't quite thought this much about it or reached the same conclusions that you have, but I can definitely understand it.

                                  Other names that bother me: "Hinoki and the Bird" "Fishing With Dynamite."

                                  Not saying I won't try these places, but I just probably won't talk about it much.

                                  1. re: Mr Taster

                                    Mr. Taster,

                                    Here's a link for you. Go to 8:30 and Jerry asks Patton "Give me the downtown starter kit - what do you need?"

                                    http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.c...

                                    1. re: happybaker

                                      happybaker,

                                      This is what's known as a "boomerang post"... ;-)

                                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/960562

                                      Mr Taster

                                  2. re: wienermobile

                                    I take no offense to the name but the bacon, egg and cheese sandwich didn't live up to its billing. I found the smoke on the bacon to be a bit overwhelming and too sweet for my liking. I also didn't care for the chipotle ketchup sauce. I didn't get chipotle but got a lot of almost sour notes. The bun was great and I wish I knew where to source these to make egg sandwiches as home with. I love the way the cheese is melted over the egg but wouldn't get the sandwich again.

                                    The slut - coddled egg over the potato puree was amazing. Expensive at $9 but a delicious little jar of egg and potato. Maybe the best mashed potato/puree concoction I've ever had.

                                    1. re: js76wisco

                                      and you get to keep the remnants of the slut.

                                  3. Also consider getting a TAP Card and pre-loading it with cash. Then, at lunch, you can quickly head for the Metro Red/Purple line for Langer's [$3 round trip] or to DASH A to go to Wurstkuche in the Arts District. [$1 round trip]

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                                    1. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                                      Should consider going to Daily Dose for one of their Farmer Sandwiches if going to trek to the Art's District. Something a little more unique than the excellent sausages at Wurstküche, which could be a little heavy in the middle of the day.

                                      1. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                                        I wholeheartedly endorse your Langer's recommendation! Pastrami on rye with just a little Gulden's, fries, Dr. Brown's soda, and perhaps a side of chopped liver-- that's a meal bound to give you a great afternoon snooze when testimony gets too boring :)

                                        Mr Taster

                                        1. re: Mr Taster

                                          If you go Langers just make sure you have a good handle on the rest room location and availability at the court.

                                          1. re: Thor123

                                            Langer's usually has a short wait between noon-1:30. The line does move fast but give yourself extra time, also usually no wait for a single at their counter. Recommended: Anything with Pastrami.

                                             
                                             
                                             
                                             
                                            1. re: Thor123

                                              Good advice in general, though not specific to Langer's.

                                              Mr Taster

                                              1. re: Thor123

                                                If you get a bowl of chili with your pastrami, then you are definitely going to need to use the John.

                                                1. re: kevin

                                                  Langer's now serves Pastrami Chili Cheese Fries.

                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                      A quarter-pound of hot and juicy pastrami on top of our delicious chili fries! and this is what they look like...

                                                       
                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                        Who is talking about chili? (I guess you are now, kevin).

                                                        Mr Taster

                                                    2. re: Mr Taster

                                                      fiance went to jury duty yesterday. brought home half a #19 for me - even heated up in the microwave, that pastrami was straight up legendary. Not sure how possible, but actually better and more tender than I remembered it (even post-microwave).

                                                  1. As mentioned, Mendocino Farms for a huge array of great sandwiches.
                                                    And the Grand Central Market should keep you busy for a week without any repeats - Eggslut, Sticky Rice, Horse Thief BBQ, and the gordita and pupusa places (don't remember the names, just look for places with long lines and follow suit).
                                                    There's so many great choices I can't understand why anybody would use the courthouse cafeteria!