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Embarrassed to ask about a Tim Horton's donut... but that pecan tortoise donut looks kinda good...

Ediblethoughts Jan 28, 2014 05:29 PM

Has anyone tried it?

I'm always disappointed with the sugar-shock-craziness of their donuts. So I am not trying... but I'm cautiously intrigued.

  1. kwass Jan 28, 2014 05:34 PM

    Can you describe it?

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    1. re: kwass
      foodyDudey Jan 28, 2014 05:44 PM

      Look here for more info


      1. re: kwass
        Ediblethoughts Jan 28, 2014 06:16 PM

        It looks better behind the counter. The caramel doesn't look stale and dry--it looks gooey. But my experience tells me it will taste awful so I'm not going there. It looks a little better on the site pic:

        1. re: Ediblethoughts
          justsayn Jan 28, 2014 06:20 PM

          I don't think that looks like shit at all. If that was at VON doughnuts it would probably be fantastic. I haven't enjoyed a doughnut from Tim Hortons for a very long time so I agree this is probably way too sweet and fake tasting.

          1. re: justsayn
            kwass Jan 29, 2014 04:47 AM

            I'm not a fan of nuts, and that's why it doesn't look appealing to me. But, you're right justsayn, if this doughnut was being sold @ VON or GHD people would go nuts over it ( no pun intended ).

            1. re: justsayn
              Ediblethoughts Jan 29, 2014 05:28 PM

              Exactly what I thought. But sadly it is made at a place that cannot be trusted with sticky sauces...

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          frogsteak Jan 28, 2014 05:44 PM

          it looks like a piece of shit

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          1. re: frogsteak
            kwass Jan 28, 2014 05:51 PM

            Hmmm...doesn't look appealing to me either.

            1. re: kwass
              petek Jan 28, 2014 06:27 PM

              looks better than it tastes,but I wouldn't call it "a piece of shit"

              1. re: petek
                frogsteak Jan 28, 2014 06:39 PM

                you should

                1. re: frogsteak
                  petek Jan 28, 2014 07:03 PM


          2. Flexitarian Jan 28, 2014 07:15 PM

            I long for the olden days when Tim Hortons donuts were baked on-site and were among the best out there...

            Now they are simply horrible.

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            1. re: Flexitarian
              foodyDudey Jan 28, 2014 07:44 PM

              I agree. I remember that they were still good in the early 2000's but sometime after that when they switched to the frozen ones, they became much smaller and not worth eating (for me). But somehow they still sell!

              1. re: foodyDudey
                hal2010 Jan 28, 2014 07:57 PM

                Their coffee also sells, which has always surprised me. The cardboard cup has more flavour. But then most of their customers just seem to be going for a caffeine hit and try to cover up the taste on the double-double.

                The Turtle Donut looks like a great idea, though.

                1. re: foodyDudey
                  justsayn Jan 28, 2014 08:02 PM

                  It turned to shit overnight and nobody complained...they just lined up more, the donuts shrunk more...blew my mind.

                  1. re: justsayn
                    frogsteak Jan 28, 2014 08:51 PM

                    none of that matters. they have panini sandwiches on white sliced bread. that makes it all better.

                    1. re: frogsteak
                      Flexitarian Jan 28, 2014 08:58 PM

                      I don't have one very often but the couple times I have I have been impressed with their paninis

                  2. re: foodyDudey
                    kwass Jan 29, 2014 05:33 PM

                    I always wonder how TH's remains so popular. My guess is either people don't know any better or they think that there are no other options. Or, perhaps it's that their name recognition sustains them. Who knows? I find it quite odd!

                    1. re: kwass
                      petek Jan 29, 2014 06:34 PM

                      "I always wonder how TH's remains so popular"
                      Why so much hate for Timmies?
                      Not everyone has a Vons or a Glory Hole in their neighborhood or wants to spend $4.00 for a coffee and $3.00 + for a donut.
                      TH is average coffee+donuts at a reasonable price with tons of locations perhaps that's why they're still so popular. :) BTW I live in a coffee/donut dead zone(Y&E) so Timmies is about the only convenient option I have.

                      1. re: petek
                        Ediblethoughts Jan 29, 2014 06:39 PM

                        Exactly so--just did a similar post below.

                        1. re: petek
                          kwass Jan 29, 2014 06:41 PM

                          I totally get that not everyone has a VON's or GHD in their neighbourhood. Heck, I don't either, but the quality @ TH has just deteriorated over the years. Their doughnuts used to be pretty darn good, but since they've stopped baking them in-house, they're just not what they were. Half the time, they're not even fresh. Don't get me wrong...I used to be a big fan.

                          1. re: kwass
                            petek Jan 29, 2014 07:06 PM

                            < Don't get me wrong...I used to be a big fan.>

                            Don't get me wrong..I'm not a fan of TH(I am a fan of GHD) but for a quick, first of the day caffeine fix, Tim's does me just fine. Only the small independents can bake in-house these days and their prices reflect it.

                            1. re: petek
                              kwass Jan 29, 2014 07:11 PM

                              Their prices definitely do reflect it, but I don't mind paying a little extra for quality.

                              1. re: kwass
                                petek Jan 29, 2014 07:18 PM

                                Me neither..when I can get there :)
                                I still have to try VON's. It sounds so good!

                                1. re: petek
                                  kwass Jan 29, 2014 07:25 PM

                                  It's definitely worth the trip! Their doughnuts are even better than GHD!

                                  1. re: kwass
                                    petek Jan 29, 2014 07:27 PM

                                    We'll see about that.. :)

                                    1. re: petek
                                      kwass Jan 29, 2014 07:39 PM

                                      Trust me!!

                                    2. re: kwass
                                      CocoaChanel Jan 29, 2014 07:31 PM

                                      Gah. I just spent time tooling around on their website....one night stand, carrot cake, Greek town, wake me up...

                                      I want one of each. Sheesh.

                                      1. re: CocoaChanel
                                        kwass Jan 29, 2014 07:40 PM

                                        CC they're so good! I don't know where you live but it's worth the trek out there!!

                                        And just so you know, the carrot cake and the Greek town are unbelievable!! They're my 2 favourites!

                                        1. re: kwass
                                          CocoaChanel Jan 29, 2014 07:44 PM

                                          Too close, KWass, too close. A bridge crossing away...thanks for the confirmation of flavours. I will get there. :)

                                          1. re: CocoaChanel
                                            kwass Jan 29, 2014 07:47 PM

                                            Hope you report back!! Would love to hear your thoughts!!

                              2. re: kwass
                                Ediblethoughts Jan 30, 2014 06:27 PM

                                I'm not a fan of the donuts. But the coffee will do if I'm rushed (and I'm usually rushed on work days!).

                                1. re: Ediblethoughts
                                  kwass Jan 30, 2014 06:33 PM

                                  You're not a fan of VON doughnuts?

                                  1. re: kwass
                                    Ediblethoughts Jan 30, 2014 06:35 PM

                                    I like VON waaay more than TH. I am actually very undecided about donut places.. I have been waffling on what I do/don't like. I think I'm frustrated most by what a short shelf life they have... I like to buy dessert on the weekend and have it last for a few days but donuts are brutal after 24-48 hours...

                                    That creme brulee donut was very good...

                                    1. re: Ediblethoughts
                                      kwass Jan 30, 2014 06:39 PM

                                      I still haven't tried the Creme Brule. That's the one I'm dying to try!

                                      And yes, it's true...doughnuts must be eaten the day of purchase.

                              3. re: petek
                                frogsteak Jan 29, 2014 07:48 PM

                                711 has better coffee and donuts than TH

                                it does. that's sad.

                                1. re: frogsteak
                                  kwass Jan 29, 2014 07:54 PM

                                  I agree! I've said it elsewhere...7-11 has pretty good doughnuts!

                                  1. re: frogsteak
                                    petek Jan 29, 2014 07:54 PM

                                    Well lucky for me I have a 7-11 in my hood so maybe I'll give it a shot. What doesn't kill me will make me stronger..or something like that.

                                    1. re: frogsteak
                                      petek Jan 30, 2014 05:25 AM

                                      <711 has better coffee and donuts than TH>

                                      So I checked out 7-11 on your recommendation
                                      The coffee is the same swill they sell at my local Petro Can and more expensive than Tim's
                                      Dismal d-nut selection 4-5 kinds (could be my location) didn't look fresh at all(definitely not baked on-site :D )
                                      I'll stick to TH thanks...

                                      1. re: petek
                                        frogsteak Jan 30, 2014 05:42 AM

                                        I just had a free sample donut at 711 and i am also sipping on a coffee because i was too lazy this morning to cross the street in time for manic. Nevertheless, the coffee is much better than Tim Horton's. I find it hard to even be friends with people who think that is good coffee.

                                        1. re: frogsteak
                                          petek Jan 30, 2014 06:14 AM

                                          I never said it was "good" coffee but I think it's better than gas station coffee(7-11) so I guess we can never be friends.. :(

                                          1. re: petek
                                            Ediblethoughts Jan 30, 2014 06:29 PM

                                            I think it's hard to generalize--while THs is pretty consistent, gas stations and 7-11s likely are not. You hit a fresh pot and a fresh donut at a 7-11 and maybe it could out-taste THs. But it's a gamble. And 7-11s are not as ubiquitous as THs!

                                            1. re: Ediblethoughts
                                              petek Jan 30, 2014 07:30 PM

                                              I don't think the problem with gas station/7-11 coffee is the freshness, they brew it directly into a thermos, it's not "cooking" on an element so it should taste the same fresh brewed or 20-30 mins later(hopefully after 20-30 mins they chuck it the bin but I doubt it). Its the brand/coffee supplier that's the problem. They both taste the same to me. Donuts on the other hand have to be fresh regardless of who makes them.

                                              1. re: petek
                                                hal2010 Jan 30, 2014 08:07 PM

                                                I think Tim Hortons roasts their own coffee now, but back in the early 80's I worked in their warehouse for a summer and their famous coffee was actually any one of 3 basic grocery store brands. Mother Parkers was one I remember.

                                    2. re: petek
                                      GoodGravy Jan 29, 2014 10:15 PM

                                      I don't agree with TH serving average coffee and doughnuts. IMO, both are below average. I'd rather hit up Country Style, but it seems there's fewer around these days.

                                      1. re: GoodGravy
                                        kwass Jan 30, 2014 04:20 AM

                                        Country Style is definitely superior to TH. At least it was when I used to go. But you're right, they're hard to find these days.

                                        1. re: GoodGravy
                                          petek Jan 30, 2014 04:35 AM

                                          <I don't agree with TH serving average coffee and doughnuts. IMO, both are below average>

                                          Then we agree to disagree. there was a Country Style in my neighborhood for a while(it's now a Chipotle's) and I tried it a few times..meh it was Ok no real difference between them and TH.

                                          1. re: petek
                                            magic Jan 30, 2014 07:05 AM

                                            Growing up Country Style used to have delicious donuts. But they've been pretty awful for at least the last 15 years.

                                            I can't even really find them around anymore anyways.

                                            Same with Dunkin Donuts. If you could find the odd one in Toronto they were great. But like TH, they have not been edible in many years.

                                            1. re: magic
                                              GoodGravy Jan 30, 2014 07:55 AM

                                              DD serves better tasting frozen & reheated doughnuts than TH. They have the added bonus of icing that doesn't slide off in the middle of the night. I confirmed that this morning when I ate a chocolate frosted brownie batter doughnut this morning that we bought on the NYS thruway yesterday on our way to Toronto.

                                              DD's coffee also tastes better than TH. That's not saying much since TH coffee sets such a low bar.

                                          2. re: GoodGravy
                                            roostermom Feb 4, 2014 01:30 PM

                                            Mmm Country stlye has nice roasted coffee and their toasted coconut doughnuts are great. There's one on Hwy 115 on the way to the cottage... ritual!

                                        2. re: kwass
                                          Ediblethoughts Jan 29, 2014 06:38 PM

                                          I admit I find their coffee decent if not very great. I used to hate their coffee until I found how few places (outside of the specialty places) have good coffee. Sure, I'd go to Manic or Green Bean or any one of the really good coffee places in Toronto if they were near my work. But given how rushed a work day is, I don't have time for the significant walks to good places more than once every few weeks.

                                          1. re: kwass
                                            hal2010 Jan 29, 2014 06:46 PM

                                            They're safe. You know exactly what to expect every time you go in there. I think that's why there are so few local diners or coffee shops any more. The big chains mean no surprises.

                                            1. re: hal2010
                                              kwass Jan 29, 2014 06:52 PM

                                              True. But it seems that people aren't just settling for them, they actually like them. When I pass by the Tim Horton's @ Yorkdale, there are line-ups out the door. The same goes for any drive through @ Tim Horton's...there are always line-ups. In fact, I don't think I've ever gone into a TH and not had to stand in line.

                                              1. re: kwass
                                                CocoaChanel Jan 29, 2014 06:56 PM

                                                Easy/convenient, value priced. Also,people are creatures of habit and don't leave their surroundings. For example - downtown towers in the financial district: regardless of what is in the building, the vast majority of people won't leave their tower to go to a different place for coffee.

                                                As an aside, McDonalds coffee is vastly superior. :)

                                                1. re: CocoaChanel
                                                  kwass Jan 29, 2014 07:02 PM

                                                  You seem to have nailed it CC.

                                                2. re: kwass
                                                  Ediblethoughts Jan 30, 2014 06:31 PM

                                                  True. If I have a choice between specialty coffee place and THs, I will pick almost any specialty coffee...

                                              2. re: kwass
                                                CocoaChanel Jan 29, 2014 06:47 PM

                                                When the four coffee shops in North Bay/Timmins/Goderich/2,000 small towns in Canada are 3x Tim's and 1x Country Style and people in these cities think it's crazy to spend $4 on a cup of coffee and there are 3500 locations = popular. There are 1500 McDonalds across Canada and I don't remember how many Starbucks, but the sheer number of locations ensures success.

                                                The target audience is not 10,000 chowhounds in Toronto, it's the 34.99 million other people in Canada.

                                                1. re: CocoaChanel
                                                  kwass Jan 29, 2014 06:53 PM

                                                  True. That makes sense.

                                                  1. re: CocoaChanel
                                                    1sweetpea Jan 30, 2014 10:11 AM

                                                    I currently live in Windsor, which has a 200,000+ population. If you want coffee and donuts (forget about doughnuts!), you've got Tim Hortons. That's it. The grocery store may make tastier donuts, but there's no drive-thru grocery store here (or anywhere, likely). Starbucks has made some headway here, but few can get past the prices. There is one Second Cup in Tecumseh ... one. It has no drive-thru, which is a deterrent in a city of vehicle drivers. Public transit is weak here, so anyone that can afford wheels drives, with few exceptions. I'm sure there are individual bakeries around town that sell far better donuts or cafes that focus on great coffee bevegerages, but they don't seem to have both great coffee and a selection of good donuts. The only true coffee competition for Tims here is McDonalds, but then you can't get donuts at McD.

                                                    I've spent more money at Tim Hortons locations throughout Windsor than I care to admit openly. The only reason for it is sheer convenience. When I am in Toronto I wouldn't dream of patronizing a Tims because there are so many better options. Until recently, there wasn't even a bagel shop in town. The only option was the grocery store bready bagel calorie bomb or Tims, which is equally large and unmemorable (except for the jalapeno bagel, which is a very tasty bastardization of a bagel). The sole bagel place in town sells massive (overproofed) bagels too, so I don't go there at all. If I want bagels, I'll buy a dozen at Bagel House in Toronto, freeze them at my parents' place then drive them back to Windsor in a freezer cooler.

                                                    The pickings really are slim here, so to say it's Tims or bust for coffee and donuts is not far from reality. When people come to expect the consistency that Tims generally delivers, they lose sight of the fact that what they are getting for their money is consistent mediocrity at best.

                                                2. re: foodyDudey
                                                  magic Jan 30, 2014 07:07 AM

                                                  I agree with others. Growing up TH donuts were really good. But they've been drek for 15 years or so. The only ones I really like are sour cream glazed and old fashioned glazed. The rest I won't touch.

                                                  What I do like at TH are their bagels and specialty bagels. They have some tasty selections. Their jalapeno asiago mozzarella bagel is delicious, as is their maple cinnamon french toast bagel. I even like their regular style bagels.

                                                  I also love their biscuit breakfast sandwiches. Big fan.

                                                  I dont' care for their sandwiches at all, but their lasagna and garlic bread is pretty good.

                                                  1. re: magic
                                                    kwass Jan 30, 2014 08:58 AM

                                                    I have to give them that magic. Their bagels are pretty good!!

                                                    1. re: kwass
                                                      magic Jan 30, 2014 09:11 AM


                                                    2. re: magic
                                                      julesrules Jan 30, 2014 09:18 AM

                                                      OK I'm gonna keep that french toast bagel in mind. Didn't know they had one, is it a seasonal/limited time offering? I can deal with an inauthentic bagel once in a while and I like the jalapeno one too. I tried GCB's french toast version once and it wasn't fresh or tasty. And all their cream cheese flavours except plain are low-fat.

                                                      1. re: julesrules
                                                        kwass Jan 30, 2014 09:25 AM

                                                        I've always wondered if TH got their bagels from GCB. The flavours seem very similar (if not identical).

                                                        1. re: kwass
                                                          magic Jan 30, 2014 09:41 AM

                                                          They are very similar in style, yeah.

                                                          At the risk of veering off topic, I must say I'm a fan of GCB too. I've always had good experiences there.

                                                          1. re: magic
                                                            kwass Jan 30, 2014 09:43 AM

                                                            I'm also a fan of GCB!

                                                            1. re: kwass
                                                              magic Jan 30, 2014 09:45 AM

                                                              Then there you have it.

                                                        2. re: julesrules
                                                          magic Jan 30, 2014 09:38 AM

                                                          The french toast bagel is year-round. I guess you can easily get a very similar effect at home, it's not that tough to make a buttered raisin bagel with cinnamon and sugar... but they do a nice job of it. It's a nice treat.

                                                          The zesty cheddar cream cheese at GCB is delish btw. It's low fat but you'd never know it.

                                                          1. re: magic
                                                            julesrules Jan 30, 2014 10:44 AM

                                                            The only GCB on my path is on the er, PATH. It's totally a guilty splurge type thing so I was disappointed to try it and find the bagel wasn't fresh at 8am and they don't toast properly (should have clued in that every single other person was asking for well-done). At that point it was just a waste of calories.
                                                            I don't voluntarily go to TH but it is good to have default orders for when we end up there for various reasons.

                                                            1. re: julesrules
                                                              magic Jan 30, 2014 10:45 AM

                                                              That's too bad about the old bagel at 8am. No excuse for that.

                                                        3. re: magic
                                                          Ediblethoughts Jan 30, 2014 06:33 PM

                                                          That jalapeno asiago is amazing.

                                                          1. re: Ediblethoughts
                                                            magic Jan 30, 2014 06:40 PM

                                                            I knnnoww!

                                                          2. re: magic
                                                            frogsteak Jan 30, 2014 10:10 PM

                                                            their bagels are not better than dempsters. pure garbage

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                                                              estufarian Jan 31, 2014 06:30 AM

                                                              'Pure Garbage'
                                                              Now there's a term that needs defining!

                                                              1. re: estufarian
                                                                hal2010 Jan 31, 2014 07:40 AM

                                                                It's the best kind of garbage. No impurities.

                                                                1. re: hal2010
                                                                  estufarian Jan 31, 2014 09:50 AM

                                                                  Or maybe anything that doesn't originate in Montreal.

                                                                  1. re: estufarian
                                                                    petek Jan 31, 2014 10:20 AM

                                                                    Pure Montreal "fanboy/girl"......

                                                                    1. re: petek
                                                                      foodyDudey Feb 2, 2014 10:12 AM

                                                                      When I see those posts, I wonder why frogsteak came to Toronto, when everything in Montreal is better!

                                                                      1. re: foodyDudey
                                                                        frogsteak Feb 2, 2014 10:53 AM

                                                                        I don't like mass produced tim hortons garbage. is that a crime? 'FoodeyDudey', I cannot wrap my head around why you would go on a local forum to discuss some crappy national chain. Care to discuss the merits of mcdonalds bagels next? what a joker.

                                                                        1. re: frogsteak
                                                                          petek Feb 2, 2014 11:29 AM

                                                                          <I don't like mass produced tim hortons garbage. is that a crime?>

                                                                          Not a crime at all..But you do like massed produced 7-11 garbage which is not a crime either.

                                                                        2. re: foodyDudey
                                                                          justsayn Feb 2, 2014 11:06 AM

                                                                          I don't understand why Frogsteak's message was turned into a Montreal VS Toronto position? What does calling out a fake bagel have to do with region?

                                                                          I find it curious that CHers discuss every nuance of what a proper bagel should be, whether in the style of Toronto, New York or Montreal, and yet they can call a Tim Hortons bagel a fantastic bagel! It might taste awesome and it might be addictive, but for CHers to not understand why it falls outside the definition of a proper bagel (Frogsteaks crassly put comment) is a mystery to me.

                                                                          I haven't had a TH bagel since the sesame version I tried maybe 4 years ago. I haven't had a dempster bagel since starving to death with no other options maybe 2 years ago. They were both crappy round buns with a hole in the middle. Perhaps TH bagels are dramatically improved, and delicious with the new dessert and savoury flavours they now offer....but c'mon...these are not proper bagels any more than McDonalds can claim it makes fresh apple pies!

                                                                          1. re: justsayn
                                                                            petek Feb 2, 2014 11:33 AM

                                                                            A "proper" bagel is one that you enjoy when you're cramming it down your mouth hole.
                                                                            This isn't TH vs St-Viateur or Fairmount bagels.

                                                                            1. re: petek
                                                                              justsayn Feb 2, 2014 11:39 AM

                                                                              1) that doesn't explain the montreal vs Toronto position.
                                                                              2) not very chow-y to accept calling anything, anything ya want to call it. A bagel is not defined as something you cram down your throat, sorry. A bagel is defined as "a bread product, traditionally shaped by hand into the form of a ring from yeasted wheat dough, roughly hand-sized, which is first boiled for a short time in water and then baked."

                                                                              1. re: justsayn
                                                                                petek Feb 2, 2014 11:58 AM

                                                                                <2) not very chow-y to accept calling anything, anything ya want to call it. A bagel is not defined as something you cram down your throat, sorry.>
                                                                                When I do get a bagel from TH it's usually when I only have time to cram it down my throat I don't have time to eat it with a knife and fork... :) Yes there are much better options in Toronto to get bagels but sometimes for convenience sake a TH "dough hole" will suffice..

                                                                                "chow-y" what the hell does that mean? Sounds pretty elitist to me.

                                                                                1. re: petek
                                                                                  justsayn Feb 2, 2014 12:05 PM

                                                                                  "chow-y" was an inside comment with regard to what the boards used to be.

                                                                                  As you say....
                                                                                  "Yes there are much better options in Toronto to get bagels but sometimes for convenience sake a TH "dough hole" will suffice.."

                                                                                  Nobody is questioning that.....but convenience doesn't make something not crappy, it just makes it acceptable given the circumstance.

                                                                                  1. re: justsayn
                                                                                    petek Feb 2, 2014 12:14 PM

                                                                                    Crappy is defined by the person eating said item not by the item itself...(yes,you can quote me on that)

                                                                                    One man's poison is another man's somethingorother..

                                                                                    1. re: petek
                                                                                      justsayn Feb 2, 2014 12:16 PM

                                                                                      Of course I agree with you on that!!!

                                                                                      But as far as bagels go....these are not bagels. So if called a bagel, they can only be crappy.

                                                                            2. re: justsayn
                                                                              foodyDudey Feb 2, 2014 11:41 AM

                                                                              Have you not noticed that frogsteak often mentions how somthing is so much better in Montreal? My response was a general observation and had nothing to do with bagels in particular. But of course I'd expect bagels to be better in Montreal, that's almost a given. My point is why come to Toronto if everything is better in Montreal and then mention it ?

                                                                              1. re: foodyDudey
                                                                                justsayn Feb 2, 2014 11:47 AM

                                                                                But TH bagels are crap compared to Toronto bagels too. That's my point. These are NOT bagels. Has nothing to do with Montreal. Some people prefer Kiva's for a Toronto twister and some prefer gryfes and some prefer Fairmont. There is no right or wrong but simple preference over quality bagels. To call TH bagels shit is not to say Toronto sux. TH bagels were concocted in a lab somewhere and they have nothing to do with what a bagel is, nor is it a Toronto reference.

                                                                                1. re: justsayn
                                                                                  kwass Feb 2, 2014 11:54 AM

                                                                                  Mmmmm...Kiva's twister...it's been too long!!!!

                                                                                  1. re: kwass
                                                                                    justsayn Feb 2, 2014 11:57 AM

                                                                                    I know!! Those are my favourite - right out of the oven. Bagel World is a very close second!

                                                                                  2. re: justsayn
                                                                                    prima Feb 3, 2014 03:48 AM

                                                                                    Some of us have the ability to appreciate a Gryfes bagel, a Fairmont bagel, a St Viateur bagel, a Bagel House bagel, a flagel, an Ess-A-Bagel, a Dempster's bagel AND a TH bagel. Sure, I'd take a St Viateur bagel over a TH bagel if I had a choice, but I probably eat several dozen TH bagels each year, whereas I average maybe a dozen Bagel House bagels/ year and half a dozen Montreal bagels/year.

                                                                                    I'm pretty open to all levels of fresh and/or previously frozen bagels, and all levels of fresh coffee (I also drink TH coffee). Some of us just aren't that snobby when it comes to bagels,pizza, burgers, coffee, donuts (I also continue eat TH donuts, and even go so far as to try their feature donuts, without checking with other Chowhounds first!!! :P ), etc. Let Chowhounds pick their battles.

                                                                                    1. re: prima
                                                                                      justsayn Feb 3, 2014 05:52 AM

                                                                                      So in which category of food are you snobby, if that's the term you wish to use?

                                                                                      1. re: justsayn
                                                                                        prima Feb 3, 2014 08:43 AM

                                                                                        Off the top of my head, I'm snobby when it comes to goulash, avgolemono soup, seafood, spanakopita, apple pie, sushi (somewhat snobby but not absolutely snobby- I avoid AYCE and cheap sushi, but I eat California rolls and spicy tuna rolls), sticky buns, dim sum, eggs florentine and hollandaise sauce. You'll know when I'm being snobby! :)

                                                                                        1. re: prima
                                                                                          kwass Feb 3, 2014 09:03 AM

                                                                                          Tell us more about your apple pie snobbery :)

                                                                                          1. re: kwass
                                                                                            prima Feb 3, 2014 09:20 AM

                                                                                            I'm snobby when it comes to the pastry, the type of apples used, the amount of sugar added, the amount of cinnamon added (I prefer cinnamon to be included) and the texture of the filling. I haven't found a restaurant version that rivals a good homemade Granny Smith or Northern Spy pie in a long time. ;) I'm also snobby re: tarte tatin and strudel.

                                                                                            1. re: prima
                                                                                              kwass Feb 3, 2014 09:24 AM

                                                                                              I only ask because I'm an apple pie snob as well :)

                                                                                              1. re: prima
                                                                                                kwass Feb 3, 2014 02:04 PM

                                                                                                We should start a new thread. "What foods are you snobby about"? It would probably be pretty interesting!!

                                                                                                1. re: kwass
                                                                                                  justsayn Feb 3, 2014 03:42 PM


                                                                                                  The "is nothing sacred" thread. : )

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                                                                                                    kwass Feb 3, 2014 03:48 PM

                                                                                                    That would depend on your perspective ;)

                                                                                            2. re: prima
                                                                                              justsayn Feb 3, 2014 11:14 AM

                                                                                              Awesome! So glad I asked!

                                                                                              1. re: prima
                                                                                                justsayn Feb 3, 2014 02:01 PM

                                                                                                Have you had sticky buns from Wagamama? Only available Tues-Fri until they last, which I would say is rarely past noon.

                                                                                        2. re: foodyDudey
                                                                                          justsayn Feb 2, 2014 11:52 AM

                                                                                          Personally I don't enjoy frogsteak's approach to commenting but I couldn't let a TH bagel discussion get watered down to something about Montreal vs Toronto.

                                                                                          Next we will see GELATO made of greek yogurt which will be ok cuz its so yummy!

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                                                                                            estufarian Feb 2, 2014 01:34 PM

                                                                                            Hey guys - they're not better or worse - they're just people's favourites. And who cares what they're called - if it looks like a bagel and quacks like a bagel, then if you want to call it a rose than I don't care. One person's crap is another's favourite - you're both right (and both wrong!). The 'both' is not personal - it refers to the opinion. Just recognize when someone has a specific bias, whether it be for a geographic location; or for the cheapest meal in town; or even a specific chef etc.
                                                                                            I'll eat my favourite bagel or BBQ or sandwich and hope somebody here can point me to another good example.
                                                                                            Thinking of changing my avatar to 'Dungbeetle'!

                                                                                            1. re: estufarian
                                                                                              justsayn Feb 2, 2014 02:11 PM

                                                                                              It looks like a bagel but if you close your eyes it doesn't quack like a bagel.

                                                                                              1. re: justsayn
                                                                                                estufarian Feb 2, 2014 02:22 PM

                                                                                                Maybe it quacks like a frog.

                                                                                              2. re: estufarian
                                                                                                frogsteak Feb 2, 2014 03:08 PM

                                                                                                Tim Hortons is even worse in Montreal than it is in Ontario

                                                                                                1. re: frogsteak
                                                                                                  Ruthie789 Feb 2, 2014 03:44 PM

                                                                                                  Montreal has great alternative coffee houses however!

                                                                                                  1. re: Ruthie789
                                                                                                    foodyDudey Feb 3, 2014 02:45 AM

                                                                                                    Does that mean they serve coffee made from chicory?

                                                                                              3. re: justsayn
                                                                                                ThoughtForFood Feb 2, 2014 08:52 PM

                                                                                                frogsteak is kind of the duckdown of 2014. Where is duckdown anyway?

                                                                                                1. re: ThoughtForFood
                                                                                                  foodyDudey Feb 3, 2014 02:44 AM

                                                                                                  He is around, I saw a few posts ad I also had a quick conversation via email about a month ago. That's all I know, I'm not sure of any similarities!

                                                                                2. re: frogsteak
                                                                                  julesrules Jan 31, 2014 10:25 AM

                                                                                  Nope, just better flavours.

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                                                                            canadianbeaver Jan 28, 2014 10:31 PM

                                                                            it's too sweet. And I'm a sugar addict. Share w a friend.

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                                                                              1sweetpea Jan 29, 2014 06:26 AM

                                                                              I tried one and thought it was really lame. The bits on top are so artificial tasting. It was definitely too sweet. Skip it and go for your favourite standard instead. For reference, I tend to choose the sour cream glazed, the honey cruller or the walnut cruller. Funny how tastes change. As a kid, I was into the sprinkles, the chocolate glazed or the apple and later, blueberry fritters.

                                                                              1. re: 1sweetpea
                                                                                justsayn Jan 29, 2014 06:51 AM

                                                                                Sour cream glazed and honey cruller are literally the only two I will eat....but it is only maybe twice a year that I find myself stuck having to even consider a TH donut.

                                                                                1. re: justsayn
                                                                                  estufarian Jan 29, 2014 08:49 AM

                                                                                  Wow - and I thought I was the only one who only (almost) ate those 2 as well! But I occasionally add a Dutchie (usually Timbit) and I also admit that the Banana Timbit they had about 2 years ago was excellent - although never (to my knowledge) offered as a 'regular size' donut.

                                                                                  1. re: estufarian
                                                                                    justsayn Jan 29, 2014 09:15 AM

                                                                                    Wow x 2! Also the occasional dutchie timbit but they tend to suck. I also liked the banana timbit.

                                                                                    1. re: justsayn
                                                                                      foodyDudey Jan 29, 2014 05:22 PM

                                                                                      I find it odd that they even managed to screw up the apple fritter. Pre-2008 they were quite edible, after that they were not even worth eating. And with the downsizing of their doughnuts, one does not feel like enough.

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                                                                              piccola Jan 29, 2014 04:51 AM

                                                                              It's about a $2 investment. I say just go for it.

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                                                                              1. re: piccola
                                                                                kwass Jan 29, 2014 04:58 AM

                                                                                Is it even that much?

                                                                                1. re: kwass
                                                                                  piccola Jan 29, 2014 06:51 PM

                                                                                  I have no idea - not a donut fan myself - but I figured that would be the most it could possibly cost.

                                                                                  1. re: piccola
                                                                                    kwass Jan 29, 2014 06:55 PM

                                                                                    I'm sure cost has a lot to do with it, but like CocoChanel said above, the fact that they're on every corner and in every small town, probably has a lot to do with it too.

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                                                                                pumpkinspice Jan 29, 2014 06:43 AM

                                                                                Tried it, they are only 95 cents after all. Hubby and I split it out of curiosity. Both agreed the filling was too sweet…and runny. I personally liked those artificial topping bits, I wish they had more. I will stick with my sour cream donut when I have a craving.

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                                                                                1. re: pumpkinspice
                                                                                  urbnmns Feb 1, 2014 06:49 PM

                                                                                  Agreed on all counts (including splitting a tester with hubby!). The caramel filling is way too sweet and one-dimensional. The bits on top (which I thought were candied pecans) were pretty good but just overwhelming with the filling. Custard (a la Boston Cream) would have been a better choice. Alas I am not likely the target demographic - interestingly in line with several earlier posters, my Tim's preferences tend to run to the plain - my pick is the plain, unglazed (reg or timbit-sized) just about every time.

                                                                                2. Ruthie789 Feb 2, 2014 03:08 PM

                                                                                  For the price of a Tim's donut why not just fold and give it a try....

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                                                                                    Ediblethoughts Feb 2, 2014 04:53 PM

                                                                                    Because that moment of sugar-soaked unpleasantness cannot be undone!

                                                                                    I think after all these posts, I feel comfortable in not going there.

                                                                                    1. re: Ediblethoughts
                                                                                      Ruthie789 Feb 3, 2014 10:16 AM

                                                                                      I go to Tim's about every two weeks and indulge in a coffee and a donut. I never fail to enjoy the donut, the soup and mains for me are not the best however. The soup is full of salt.

                                                                                      1. re: Ruthie789
                                                                                        Ediblethoughts Feb 3, 2014 04:59 PM

                                                                                        So are the bagels and muffins actually! But then most of these kinds of things are. Hard to avoid tons of salt in most restaurants. I don't notice it in the flavour of a blueberry bran but it's there...

                                                                                        1. re: Ediblethoughts
                                                                                          Ruthie789 Feb 4, 2014 06:40 PM

                                                                                          You are right a sweet usually does have salt as part of its composition. Soup for me is the worst culprit made from powder full of additives along with the salt. I go every two weeks to meet a friend, he is on a limited budget, the coffee and donuts fit our bill. Lot's of people are hanging out at Tim's at any hour of the day.

                                                                                          1. re: Ruthie789
                                                                                            julesrules Feb 5, 2014 03:47 AM

                                                                                            I think budget is a huge part of it. It serves a purpose. It also has people buying stuff they wouldn't otherwise, creates a lot of roadside garbage, etc. But I don't begrudge anyone on a budget lunch out once a week at TH. Some people's living arrangements aren't conducive to entertaining / socializing.

                                                                                            1. re: julesrules
                                                                                              Ruthie789 Feb 5, 2014 05:14 AM

                                                                                              Have your partaken in TH?

                                                                                  2. kwass Feb 20, 2014 02:05 PM

                                                                                    I posted this on the "Restaurant Changes and Closings" thread, but I thought I'd post it here as well, since I know that there are TH fans on CH :) TH is taking some things off the menu:


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                                                                                      petek Feb 20, 2014 02:17 PM

                                                                                      " Coyotes not a threat" Unless they're f@ckin with my donuts..

                                                                                      1. re: petek
                                                                                        kwass Feb 20, 2014 02:25 PM

                                                                                        LOL!!! I fixed it :)

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                                                                                          petek Feb 20, 2014 02:27 PM


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