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PotatoHouse Jan 28, 2014 03:33 PM

I noticed that one of our contributors (NothingsWrong) mentioned that they were a fine artist. I myself am a somewhat prolific songwriter. It made me wonder, do Chowhounds tend to be creative and/or artistic? Does that type of personality just naturally lean toward the love of food?

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    cheesecake17 Jan 28, 2014 03:52 PM

    Before I became a sahm, I was in the fashion industry.

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      Tripeler Jan 29, 2014 06:01 AM

      One of my favorite performers was Doug Sahm, who passed away a few years ago. I cheesecake's case, I suppose s-a-h-m stands for something?

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        HillJ Jan 29, 2014 06:05 AM

        stay-at-home-mom
        requiring a great deal of creativity and artistry among other things!

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          cheesecake17 Jan 29, 2014 06:56 AM

          Thanks :)
          Yep I'm a stay at home mom
          Or as I explained at a recent interview: private chef, chief laundress, personal chauffeur, 24/7 on call nurse

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            HillJ Jan 29, 2014 06:58 AM

            Don't forget building a masterpiece! :)

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              cheesecake17 Jan 29, 2014 06:57 PM

              Oh, I forgot personal maid. :)

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                HillJ Jan 29, 2014 07:07 PM

                Touche!

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                  cheesecake17 Jan 30, 2014 05:26 AM

                  To be honest though, I love it. It's so much fun being home. I like that I have time to shop & cook. My daughter and I do a lot of baking and art projects after school...started as a way to keep her from climbing the curtains... But now she loves to have her hands busy

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                    HillJ Jan 30, 2014 05:27 AM

                    Trust me I miss those years even now. Make the most of every moment is no cliche.

    2. breadchick Jan 28, 2014 03:53 PM

      I am a writer, fine art photographer and dabble in graphic design. I've been like this all my life (including time spent in theatre) so yeah - I guess I am.

      I've retired early from my day job, so I can now spend more time doing all of the above - including cooking!

      I can't speak for anyone else, but I would tend to think it works both ways. Some people have buttoned-up jobs and use cooking as their creative outlet.

      Interesting topic.

      1. Jonishkc Jan 28, 2014 04:09 PM

        I'm in sales and have been for 20 years. I deal with legal professionals.
        I am married to an artist. Does that count? He considers my cooking an art.

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          kitchengardengal Jan 28, 2014 04:15 PM

          I'm a kitchen designer, and I am a pretty decent cook. Those traits go really well together! And I'm a Master Gardener volunteer, and have spent years designing and working in my own gardens.

          Our closest friends who are food lovers and/or creative home cooks have been an interior decorator, a makeup artist and fashion consultant, several gardeners (I think gardeners are pretty creative), a wood carver.... I'd never really thought about that before. Interesting subject!

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            NJFsa Jan 28, 2014 05:36 PM

            I'm an actuary, so that would be a "no" to creative and artistic. Maybe I'm the exception to the rule.

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              HillJ Jan 28, 2014 05:38 PM

              Creative with numbers NJF?

            2. biondanonima Jan 28, 2014 05:41 PM

              I'm an opera singer, married to an opera singer. In my experience, my fellow singers (as well as many of my instrumental musician friends) are very into food.

              1. cookie monster Jan 28, 2014 05:41 PM

                Lawyer here. No artistic talent to speak of, although I do work with creative and artistic types, which has its pluses and minuses. I've often said that one of the things I love about baking is it serves as a creative outlet for me - I can make something beautiful (-tasting if not always -looking) and share it with other people.

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                  HillJ Jan 28, 2014 05:45 PM

                  I think that 99.9% of the population have some aspect of their lives where they scratch that artistic itch. Sometimes that itch is preparing a feast for 50 or a recipe they found reading a magazine at the dentist's office they can't wait to replicate for themselves. CH's def. appreciate food well executed.

                  I am a hobby photographer (and it looks like I'm in good company there) that only recently started getting paid for her work, I play 4 instruments well and 2 still learning, throw pots of clay regularly, run a BnB with 2 partners and I'm not even addressing how I've made a living. So yes, I have always enjoyed creative pursuits. I also married a musician who grew up to become a pilot who flys musicians (and their cargo) to work.

                  Like I said, 99.9% of the population has a creative outlet that makes them happy. Wouldn't you agree? I can't imagine a day without music playing, dancing, or art to look at.

                  Shout out to Pete Seeger who passed yesterday.

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                    wadejay26 Jan 28, 2014 05:57 PM

                    I guess I am in the .1%. Not artistic at all. But I was able to create a login name. I guess that is the only real criteria for joining CH.

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                      HillJ Jan 28, 2014 06:01 PM

                      wade, do you not recognize music performed well? Don't you enjoy music? I do believe I read your comments that confirm that...artistic, creative doesn't apply ONLY to performance. There is the ability to appreciate..and be inspired..

                      Nope you .1% are not going to ruin my theory!

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                      breadchick Jan 28, 2014 06:21 PM

                      Double shout out. I live in the Hudson Valley, and he's been such an integral part of our existence here.

                      I hope they don't name the Tappan Zee after him - he absolutely did not want the pedestrian bridge to bear his name. He'd hate it.

                      RIP Pete.

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                      Leepa Jan 28, 2014 05:54 PM

                      I'm in property management but am a potter for fun. Soon, after retirement, to be a potter full time. Most potters that I know are into food.

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                        ricepad Jan 28, 2014 05:56 PM

                        I have no artistic talent whatsoever.

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                          HillJ Jan 28, 2014 05:59 PM

                          Wait a darn minute, did I not read of your sausage making skills?

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                            ricepad Jan 28, 2014 07:51 PM

                            If you saw the sausages, you would NOT consider them art. They're plenty tasty, but they ain't pretty by a long shot!

                            (Thanks for remembering, tho!)

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                              HillJ Jan 28, 2014 08:03 PM

                              ;o ) Perhaps like most artists, you're critical of your own masterpiece.

                        2. girloftheworld Jan 28, 2014 07:54 PM

                          i write music , sing and play guitar... i can kind of draw...and I design American Girl Doll clothes

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                            cheesecake17 Jan 29, 2014 06:57 AM

                            You design for AG?! My daughter would be stuck to you like glue

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                              girloftheworld Jan 29, 2014 08:21 PM

                              no..I dont design for the company.... I design for my own dolls.. ( I'm 13)

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                                cheesecake17 Jan 30, 2014 05:24 AM

                                Oh :)
                                Good for you!!!!

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                                  jrvedivici Jan 30, 2014 06:48 AM

                                  Yes good for her, wish my daughter did that. In certain aspects I can be considered a high maintenance guy, one aspect I'm not high maintenance is hair cuts', I'm a go to the mall pay my $12. and get my hair cut kind of guy.

                                  While spending the weekend in the City one year my wife booked a "spa-day" for my daughter and her favorite American Doll, at their store in Manhattan. I thought nothing of it, till I received a bill for $65.00 for the "blow out" and "Style" for her doll, yes, her doll. They also offered other spa "services" like facials and such, no joke.

                                  I believe they also have a cafe' where you can have a "tea" date with your doll as well. After getting fleeced at the salon, I got them the hell out of that store a.s.a.p.

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                                    HillJ Jan 30, 2014 06:49 AM

                                    I hope you're saving for college (for two). Discounts do apply :)

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                                      jrvedivici Jan 30, 2014 06:54 AM

                                      She's a freshman in college this year (Johnson and Wales!!) and no, I didn't save enough! Times like these I'm very grateful my younger child, my son, is dumb.

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                                        HillJ Jan 30, 2014 07:00 AM

                                        Congratulations! Where did the American Doll wind up?

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                                          jrvedivici Jan 30, 2014 07:18 AM

                                          They are in her bedroom closet shelf. I have been on her about selling them, putting them on ebay etc. On her most recent trip home (two weeks ago) she showed me an article where some "original" American Doll's are worth thousands of dollars as collectibles.

                                          The dolls are now out of her closet and adorn her bed and I tuck them in every night.

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                                            HillJ Jan 30, 2014 10:34 AM

                                            So I hear (value). Better treat them right :)

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                                      cheesecake17 Jan 30, 2014 07:01 AM

                                      So my inlaws are always telling me they want to take my daughter to American Girl on her birthday. They want to buy her a doll, salon package, and tea at the restaurant. I keep saying ok, ok, ok...and I had a catalog sent to their house. Haven't heard about their big plans since they got it!

                                      FYI my daughter will be 3. She wants an ice cream cake, Spider-Man sweatshirt, and sparkly sunglasses for her birthday!

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                                        HillJ Jan 30, 2014 07:02 AM

                                        You mean AG Inc. doesn't have a foster or adoption plan for dolls that have served one child well...and now need a new home?

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                                          jrvedivici Jan 30, 2014 07:20 AM

                                          Exactly.....you know what I'm not a cheap guy at all but I was shocked at that price to "do" a doll's hair. AND this was booked like a month in advance AND there was a line out the door with people with appointments. What a racket.

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                                            meatn3 Jan 30, 2014 10:56 AM

                                            I don't have kids but even I had heard bits and pieces about American Doll. I ended up spending time in one in Chicago a few years ago (I was with someone who works for the company and wanted to "pop" in.)

                                            Wow! This is some of the weirdest people watching around.
                                            The total focus of the kids and the way the experience is marketed is frightening.

                                            Initially I had loved the idea of using dolls to convey history. But the prices and carefully constructed need to buy more just disgusted me.

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                                              jrvedivici Jan 30, 2014 11:15 AM

                                              Trying to capitalize on the success, but with "American Doll" already trademarked I came up with the "Soviet Sister" doll.

                                              Pretty much the same concept except your Soviet Sister came in a locked box with a strippers pole. You then had to send her earnings back to the mother country (me) for 24 mos. then you receive the key to her box in the mail and your Soviet Sister was now free!

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                                              cheesecake17 Jan 30, 2014 06:23 PM

                                              I think it's a fun (but expensive) way to learn history. When I was a kid I loved the dolls and the stories that went along. I was the kid who actually read (in the library) to find out more bout the time periods.

                                              And I'm guilty of buying a doll this year. Got a GREAT deal on it, and my daughter won't get it for a few years

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                                          girloftheworld Jan 30, 2014 03:19 PM

                                          AGLOVE275 on youtube if your daughter wants to check out some of my DIYs.

                                          I did some cooking demos as " Kirsten" at a pioneer cabin for a kids day at one of our musems

                                  2. Cherylptw Jan 28, 2014 10:30 PM

                                    I'm in business but for me, food is my creative outlet.
                                    I create recipes (have been working on a cookbook for awhile) and my hobby is competitive cooking. I look at my cooking, the ability to take an ingredient and make something out of it, especially if it's something I haven't used before, as art...it's my artistic expression, if you will.

                                    Other people paint, draw, design....I cook...

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                                      ludmilasdaughter Jan 30, 2014 07:21 AM

                                      That's exactly me. Cooking is my creativity!

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                                        fldhkybnva Jan 30, 2014 10:52 AM

                                        Hear Hear!

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                                        HillJ Jan 30, 2014 10:56 AM

                                        Isn't that was the OP was asking? A correlation btwn CH's and creativity/artistic expression. So YES would be the answer..

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                                        Harters Jan 29, 2014 02:32 AM

                                        If by "Chowhounds" the OP means users of this site, then I'd be surprised if there were any significant differences from the general population of similar general backgrounds. I suspect if there was an analysis of the socio-economic background of site users, there would be more similarities than any link to creativity. Middle aged, middle class - that's your average site user (based on my "analysis" of past "how old are you " and "what do you do for a living" threads).

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                                          Gastronomos Jan 29, 2014 07:01 AM

                                          +1

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                                          ultimatepotato Jan 29, 2014 03:26 AM

                                          I'm an IT Business Analyst. Cooking is my main creative outlet, although I used to do a bit of photography and dabble in writing.

                                          I know some very creative people who don't give a fig about food, and some very linear people who love cooking and food - and a lot of IT engineers that fancy themselves as Heston Blumenthal! The science aspect really appeals to them.

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                                            4X4 Jan 29, 2014 04:35 AM

                                            I'm a musician. I've been playing the harmonica (mostly Blues/Roots music) for over 25 years. I approach cooking and music in a similar way - they're both a combination of science and art.

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                                              Bkeats Jan 29, 2014 05:33 AM

                                              I think there is no correlation what so ever between creative/artistic people and CHs. In fact I could argue that CH can be analytic people that approach food in a methodical manner and use observation, experimentation and repetition until perfection is achieved. Someone like Wylie Dufresne.

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                                                HillJ Jan 29, 2014 05:55 AM

                                                Is that sarcasm or you really don't see artistry in Wylie's work?
                                                http://aldernyc.com/team-gallery/

                                                http://aldernyc.com/menu/

                                                or the film? http://aldernyc.com/ryepastafilm/

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                                                  Bkeats Jan 29, 2014 06:16 AM

                                                  Its not creative in the fine art sense. As I was answering with that view. I agree with Phaedrus' comment that creativity exists in many ways that are outside of fine arts. I am one of the most creative people in my field and have been recognized by many in the industry as such. However, if an non-industry person looked at what I did it would appear dry, analytical and abstruse. But to my client, it would be the most brilliant creative solution they have seen to an intractable problem. We can all be creative. We're not all artists. Too many people claiming to be artists anyways so it doesn't mean anything to me.

                                                  ETA: I can paint, have written short stories, can play a couple of musical instruments and have some architectural training. I have never made claim though to being artistic.

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                                                    HillJ Jan 29, 2014 06:21 AM

                                                    I can respect that. I believe I did my best to explain above how I express myself and appreciate creativity in others. We can be guilty of over thinking any definition painted in broad strokes but frankly most artists work in very broad strokes, must. In every profession. This isn't a test.

                                                    Claiming to be anything is how we define ourselves. Even if that claim is self propelled. If we didn't find our own sweet spot out of life, and waited for other people to define our talents alone......well, Bkeats..that's not my journey at all.

                                              2. Phaedrus Jan 29, 2014 06:07 AM

                                                There is artistry and creativity in all human endeavors. To limit the definition to just the fine arts is to deprive us of the vision to see art and creativity everywhere. Sometimes it takes an educated eye to see the artistry in a technical manifestation but it is there.

                                                I am a research and development engineer, I deal with trying to make working products out of raw material. Some of what I see out there is incredibly creative, just different from what most infer from the words: artistic and creative.

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                                                  HillJ Jan 29, 2014 06:10 AM

                                                  Finally :) a human after my own heart.

                                                2. Candy Jan 29, 2014 07:42 AM

                                                  I'm now retired but have been in sales and merchandising for about 40 years. Had a double major in college one of which was art history. I use a lot of color in my home and have always been interested in decorative arts. So yeah I'd say I'm one of the creative/artistic hounds.

                                                  1. jrvedivici Jan 29, 2014 09:24 AM

                                                    I don't like to brag, but I do consider myself a rather accomplished writer and poet, I offer you;

                                                    An Ode to Chow

                                                    Roses are Red
                                                    Violets are Blue
                                                    I wrote this poem
                                                    For all You!!

                                                    Chow if fun
                                                    Chow is fine
                                                    Chow is where I go
                                                    To waste some time

                                                    I like to write
                                                    I like to read
                                                    I listen to music
                                                    RIP to Lou Reed

                                                    Some find me funny
                                                    Some I annoy
                                                    Some enjoy my banter
                                                    Some call me a silly boy

                                                    I hope you enjoy this poem
                                                    I hope I do not rile
                                                    By the end of the day
                                                    I hope you all smile

                                                    Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.............

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                                                      HillJ Jan 29, 2014 09:32 AM

                                                      When the post "Do Chowhounds Tend to Be Comedians" goes up, I fully expect your comment to be front and center.

                                                      I wonder how many people grab material from this community....

                                                    2. lafouchow Jan 29, 2014 09:29 AM

                                                      I have a background in visual arts. Now, I channel that creative energy into cooking. Sometimes my creative dishes work, and sometimes they are duds. Chowhound is a great place to cry out for help when something goes awry!

                                                      1. MGZ Jan 29, 2014 10:57 AM

                                                        I’d certainly count myself in the “creative” category and it manifests in most everything I do. I don’t think one needs to make money producing art to be considered artistic (although, at this stage of my life that’s what pays the bills). To me, such traits show themselves in everyday endeavors – cooking is just one of ‘em.

                                                        In fact, I think that you can even look at a ‘hound’s posts - both the “how” and the “what” - and get a sense of their creativity. The uptight, “box” thinkers really present as sore thumbs. That kinda leads me to the notion that they tend to be more of a minority on this Site.

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                                                          girloftheworld Jan 29, 2014 08:23 PM

                                                          Hummm? If I remember correctly you are creative and artistic

                                                        2. juliejulez Jan 29, 2014 02:04 PM

                                                          I went to school for interior design (and would be doing that if I could make a decent living at it). My day job is dealing with contracts in the real estate world, so not very creative at all. Cooking is my creative outlet.

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                                                            Dee S Jan 29, 2014 02:54 PM

                                                            I am completely lacking any artistic ability. I consider appreciation of music to having a good ear rather than an artistic ability. I certainly can appreciate art/music/literature/articture/photography etc but lack the ability to CREATE said art. IMHO, that makes me a non-creative.

                                                            I am mechanical and analytical. I can diagnose car trouble over the phone. I can problem solve system issues on applications I have never worked on. I can translate from business to technical and back. I can do anything requiring a repair to my home, except electrical (scares the beejesus outta me!). My Briggs-Myers classification is INTP.

                                                            I can make food taste wonderful but my plates are crime scenes. I love food.

                                                            1. fracklefoodie Jan 29, 2014 07:10 PM

                                                              I pay my bills as a writer and do fine art, among other things, as additional creative releases. Thinking about my community of writers, I can think of many who love to be in the kitchen or are particularly thoughtful about eating out. I can think of almost just as many who aren't particularly inspired or motivated by food. I don't necessarily see a trend. I do, however, know that baked goods are a mainstay of publishing.

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                                                                valerie Jan 29, 2014 07:12 PM

                                                                I am so not creative/artistic. I work at a large publishing company with creative types, but I work in the numbers end of things.

                                                                But, like some other non-creative types said, food is my only creative outlet. Whether it be hosting a holiday dinner, coming up with new weeknight dinners, or choosing restaurants to go to, that's about it for me. And food is my passion so my friends and family benefit from that!

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                                                                  Sherri Jan 29, 2014 08:25 PM

                                                                  Paintress and part-time artsy quilter now that I am retired from the F & B business. I have always dabbled in 'the arts' but they've never paid my major bills.

                                                                  1. ursy_ten Jan 29, 2014 09:13 PM

                                                                    I can draw - I have bits and pieces of art scattered throughout the internets - think there's a link to my facebook art page on my profile. But I'm a librarian in my day job.

                                                                    Oh, and I also crochet cute lil things when I have the time. The last one was a zombie bunny. But I rarely have the time these days.

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                                                                      LindaWhit Mar 24, 2014 11:25 AM

                                                                      OK, I love the idea of a cute, cuddly zombie bunny. Sort of like The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog from Monty Python's Holy Grail. :-)

                                                                       
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                                                                        ursy_ten Mar 25, 2014 06:42 AM

                                                                        Oh yeah, I LOVE the Killer Rabbit!!!

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                                                                          girloftheworld Apr 1, 2014 03:08 PM

                                                                          my sister dressed as the killer bunny for halloween

                                                                    2. SaraAshley Jan 29, 2014 09:25 PM

                                                                      I work in event planning for corporate conferences, but I love interior design and arts and crafts, and am pretty good at both. I think eventually with my professional experience, I could fold this all into a career, but we'll see.

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                                                                        chileheadmike Jan 30, 2014 06:47 AM

                                                                        Nope.

                                                                        I can't sing, I ain't pretty, and my legs are thin.

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                                                                          4X4 Jan 30, 2014 08:01 AM

                                                                          Oh well

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                                                                          beevod Jan 30, 2014 08:25 AM

                                                                          Anybody can order a needlepoint kit and be "creative." When you're paid cash money for your product, you are then "creative/artistic."

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                                                                            MGZ Jan 30, 2014 08:38 AM

                                                                            I completely disagree. I can play the guitar and the mandolin (the one for strummin' not slicin'), dabble in woodwork and carpentry (my present project is building a table out of floor joists taken from a barn built in the 1850s), etc., and do so simply for the joy. Creative talent rests in the way the gray matter fires more than in what the hands do to manifest such notions. I was paid a great deal of "cash money" for my ability to think creatively when I was still actively practicing law, should that count? Does the fact that Van Gogh never sold a painting while he was alive mean that he was neither creative nor artistic?

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                                                                              jrvedivici Jan 30, 2014 10:00 AM

                                                                              The heck with his paintings, have you tried his espresso vodka?

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                                                                                HillJ Jan 30, 2014 10:35 AM

                                                                                No his best work.

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                                                                                  Bkeats Jan 31, 2014 06:54 AM

                                                                                  Well he was serving ear long before Spotted Pig did...

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                                                                                HillJ Jan 30, 2014 10:36 AM

                                                                                I wonder how many artists would understand that impression when it can take years, decades and death to have your work sold for money. Thank goodness such ideas never stopped someone from starting or from just jumping in with both knives in their kitchen to just DO for the sheer fun and joy of it.

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                                                                                  ursy_ten Jan 30, 2014 04:02 PM

                                                                                  Have you never heard of the term, "starving artist?"

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                                                                                  Kalivs Jan 30, 2014 08:43 AM

                                                                                  I am very creative in the ways I can justify spending so much time on chowhound and justify eating many different foods!

                                                                                  1. JungMann Jan 30, 2014 09:00 AM

                                                                                    I play the keyboard (piano/organ) and studied classical voice. Music was always my main means of expression, but I also enjoy cooking as an outlet for creativity (I was never much of a song writer). Were I the type of Chowhound who mainly eats out, I doubt I would see food as a "creative" interest.

                                                                                    1. Gastronomos Jan 30, 2014 09:55 AM

                                                                                      Once upon a time there was an engineer.
                                                                                      Drove a locomotive both far and near.
                                                                                      Accompanied by a monkey that would sit on a stool
                                                                                      Watching everything the engineer would do
                                                                                      One day the engineer wanted a bite to eat,
                                                                                      He left the monkey sitting on the driver's seat,
                                                                                      The monkey pulled the throttle, the locomotive jumped the gun
                                                                                      And did 90 miles an hour down the mainline run.

                                                                                      Big locomotive right on time, big locomotive coming down the line.
                                                                                      Big locomotive no. 99, left the engineer with a worried mind.

                                                                                      The engineer called up the dispatcher on the phone,
                                                                                      To tell him all about his locomotive was gone.
                                                                                      Dispatcher got on the wire, switch operator to the right,
                                                                                      Cause the monkey's got the main line sewed up tight.
                                                                                      The switch operator got the message on time,
                                                                                      Said there's a northbound limit on the same main line,
                                                                                      Open up the switch I'm gonna let him through the hole,
                                                                                      Cause the monkey's got the locomotive under control.

                                                                                      Big locomotive right on time, big locomotive coming down the line.
                                                                                      Big locomotive no. 99, left the engineer with a worried mind.

                                                                                      1. fldhkybnva Jan 30, 2014 10:49 AM

                                                                                        I didn't know I had a creative bone in my body until I discovered cooking. It is now my creative outlet but otherwise I like to color in the lines.

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                                                                                          HillJ Jan 30, 2014 10:54 AM

                                                                                          Is that the significant difference I'm missing here? The belief that somehow creative types aren't disciplined? I'm actually surprised by the responses to the OP.

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                                                                                            MGZ Jan 31, 2014 06:58 AM

                                                                                            I thought it a rather creative turn of phrase to employ while asserting a lack of creativity.

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                                                                                              HillJ Jan 31, 2014 07:08 AM

                                                                                              It was. I'm just lacking the experience of denying any creative bones in my body. Hurts my head to ponder it.

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                                                                                                MGZ Jan 31, 2014 07:11 AM

                                                                                                I have the same reaction to coloring inside the lines!

                                                                                        2. Ttrockwood Jan 30, 2014 06:50 PM

                                                                                          I am a fashion designer, womens wovens to be specific. I am challenged daily to be creative, think outside of the box, use a critical eye and pay attention to minute details.
                                                                                          I've been interested in food as not only a creative outlet for myself but also at the professional level admiring the cooks who do create such visually stunning plates.
                                                                                          So, yes, i would label myself creative.

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                                                                                            Dave Feldman Feb 9, 2014 08:47 PM

                                                                                            The co-founder of this site was/is a professional trombone player, and often said that he got many of his gigs, especially in foreign countries, because he could direct his compatriots where to eat just about everywhere.

                                                                                            In my experience, musicians tend to be obsessed with food, and some of our top food critics either were professional or amateur musicians or wrote about music as well as food (Jonathan Gold and Robert Sietsema come to mind, as well as Jim Leff).

                                                                                            I'm an author, and passionate discussion among writers about food is second in quantity only to grumbling about agents and publishers.

                                                                                            1. sunangelmb Mar 21, 2014 04:28 PM

                                                                                              I'm not very creative at all. Love to enjoy others creative attributes instead. So while I appreciate creativeness, I don't apply it. I'm a follow the book kind of girl, don't even like to make up my own recipes much. (Please don't take my chow card for this confession )

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                                                                                                Oboegal Mar 21, 2014 06:01 PM

                                                                                                Music teacher here!!

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                                                                                                  DebinIndiana Mar 22, 2014 01:46 PM

                                                                                                  Nope. Engineer. By definition -- not creative.

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                                                                                                    Athena Mar 22, 2014 04:47 PM

                                                                                                    I don't believe that creativity is limited to 'the arts', I have a BFA, but I see creativity in all kinds of professions and disciplines. Is not being an engineer akin to the problem solving required in graphic design? There is theatre in the courtroom, accountants can be very, very creative as can risk modellers and underwriters - and they can all be excellent Chowhounds.

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                                                                                                      DebinIndiana Mar 22, 2014 07:54 PM

                                                                                                      We think of ourselves as the pragmatic problem-solvers of the world. "Scientists" and "academics" create crazy ideas -- we make them work. So, we are more likely to run an experiment trying out a method, like beer can chicken, with controlled variations and criteria for fun (see Michael Chu, here, http://www.cookingforengineers.com/ar... ) or make a spreadsheet with 8 different crab cake recipes to determine what might be optimal proportions (I admit to having done this). Or maybe just take a mediocre recipe and tweak it to something we really love. It's cooking, and it's fun, but I am thinking it is not really creative.
                                                                                                      I've made some inspired Halloween costumes for my kids, and birthday cakes, too, that turned out great -- but it's because I stow away into the back of my brain every good idea I see and can drag them out and recombine them into a vision I can see. Again, derivative rather than creative.
                                                                                                      When I do "create," it is through that same process --"Hmmm, I have these ingredients; what can I make?" I remember 8 different recipes; come up with a loose goal, and tweak my way to dinner.

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                                                                                                        fldhkybnva Mar 23, 2014 03:19 AM

                                                                                                        Wow I thought it was just me...."or make a spreadsheet with 8 different crab cake recipes to determine what might be optimal proportions." I thought I was just being my usual OCD self, but maybe I can call it creativity. The kitchen is really the only place I'm willing and actually eager to be creative and adventurous. The rest of my life is predictably routine, like I like it.

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                                                                                                          Athena Mar 23, 2014 05:40 AM

                                                                                                          I say creativity lies within your process of tweaking! Art and design is frequently derivative.

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                                                                                                          nothingswrong Mar 22, 2014 09:29 PM

                                                                                                          I agree with this.

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                                                                                                            MamasCooking Mar 22, 2014 10:56 PM

                                                                                                            To say nothing of the perfectly choreographed ballet that we medical professionals do while saving lives:)

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                                                                                                            mexivilla Mar 23, 2014 03:17 AM

                                                                                                            Me too. Food consumer not a creator.

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                                                                                                            Spinal Tap Mar 22, 2014 10:38 PM

                                                                                                            Reading all the responses got me to look within. My initial reaction was that I'm not creative or artistic, but I now I think there is a little creative streak buried in me.

                                                                                                            Before I became a SAHD (Stay At Home Dad), I worked in Biz Dev and partner management in high tech.

                                                                                                            We bought this house a couple years ago on the condition that I fix up the backyard. It was almost entirely covered with concrete. I had it demo'd and used the concrete pieces to make two huge retaining walls thus dividing the yard into three distinct sections. The upper section was going to be the patio with a spot for a Big Green Egg (something I've always wanted). I got carried away. What was suppose to be a counter with the BGE has turned into a giant "U" shaped outdoor kitchen that includes a 42" wood burning oven, fridge, sink, high btu wok burner, gas bbq (for when my wife wants to grill), BGE, and counter space for a shaved ice machine.

                                                                                                            While the kids were in school I worked on the kitchen. I had help with the heavy lifting parts. I got burnt out on the months long project so I did a side project of designing my oldest's room. It's a rain forest theme. The bed frame is made of hand hewn lumber, every piece except for the 2x4s supporting the bottom. The joints are covered with hemp rope to make it look "Tarzan and Jane". All the walls and ceiling are painted (by scientific illustrator friend) rain forest theme. I also cut down 6 gnarled up manzanita trees and fastened those to various parts of the room. My artist friend painted to fill in those trees.

                                                                                                            This summer's project will be the number 2 child's room. She wants an underwater theme. We will also be doing a glass and tile mosaic on the top of the pizza oven. It will be an underwater theme with a giant pacific octopus as the center piece. It's arms wrapping the oven with a couple reaching inside the mouth of the oven. I don't know how far we'll get as the new baby was just born 6 weeks ago.

                                                                                                            Sorry if this post ended up like I'm bragging. I'm not, I had a lot of help.

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                                                                                                              cheesecake17 Mar 24, 2014 01:41 PM

                                                                                                              Wow good for you! My husband won't even take the grill out of the garage! :)

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                                                                                                              nothingswrong Mar 23, 2014 12:38 AM

                                                                                                              I think all types of personalities can be foodies, though maybe for different reasons.

                                                                                                              I've been a freelance/commissioned artist since I was a teen, I love music and play the piano, I crochet, knit, and sew. I do lots of print work (paper mostly), typography, logo design, I published a book of poetry and a novel and have about 5 more sitting and collecting dust. I do woodwork, build furniture, reupholster, love gardening and redecorating, etc. etc.

                                                                                                              That being said, I'm not an adventurous or creative eater. I'm a creature of habit. I like to color in the lines. My favorite food activity is baking. So much of dessert-making is aesthetics and decoration, which I do find tedious but enjoyable at once. Mostly I just like seeing all of these basic ingredients (flour, sugar, butter, eggs) come together in countless ways to make such a variety of dishes. I've become particularly enamored with yeast. It is so fascinating to see something come alive and grow when you mix a + b + c in just the right conditions.

                                                                                                              Then I have a brother who doesn't do anything "creative" or "artistic;" he's a corporate lawyer. And he loves food more than I do. For him, it's about relaxation, pleasure, hedonism... the excitement of tasting new things and pairing it all with good booze. He will go faaaar out of his way to try foods and restaurants, and he will try anything at least once, but can barely boil spaghetti. He's a man you can really tell enjoys eating--lots of contemplative looks during dinner, long pauses, groans and oohs and ahhs. He will eat things to the point of making himself sick sometimes, but it's always worth it to him because he loves the taste of these foods so much.

                                                                                                              So you have two related people with opposite personalities and hobbies, who both love food, but for different reasons. And it manifests in different ways. I like my hands in some dough and he likes that dough in his mouth (though would much prefer something made of animal and as fatty as possible).

                                                                                                              I liked reading the replies on this thread; so interesting to see what people do.

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                                                                                                                MamasCooking Mar 23, 2014 02:45 AM

                                                                                                                I believe that most people are modest about their talents. Or just take things in stride and do not realize how creative they are. The human brain is fascinating.

                                                                                                              2. LindaWhit Mar 24, 2014 11:14 AM

                                                                                                                I'm an Administrative Manager.

                                                                                                                Can't sing.
                                                                                                                Can't dance.
                                                                                                                Can't play an instrument (or haven't done so since I was about 15yo).
                                                                                                                Can't paint.
                                                                                                                Can't sew.
                                                                                                                Can barely style my own hair.

                                                                                                                My sister's in men's fashion. My brother works behind the scenes in the film business. But I enjoy cooking for myself, and sometimes friends and family. Not sure what that makes me. But I guess that's my creative outlet.

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                                                                                                                  jrvedivici Mar 24, 2014 11:28 AM

                                                                                                                  Oh please!!! I can't do any of those thing either! Doesn't stop me from being one special lil s.o.b!!!

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                                                                                                                  Cheez62 Mar 27, 2014 10:25 PM

                                                                                                                  I paint - walls, decks, maybe a piece of unfinished furniture.
                                                                                                                  I'm musical - I play a mean stereo, and loud too!
                                                                                                                  I sing - along with that same stereo.
                                                                                                                  I only dance at weddings, and only then after a decent number of drinks.
                                                                                                                  I like flowers and gardening - as long as the flowers will grow to become tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, etc. The actual flower beds? I would like to have all perennials, that bloom and grow on their own, so I don't have to screw with the damn things.

                                                                                                                  No, not really an artistic or creative bone near here. I'm an electrician by trade, I'll work on about anything around the house, do even major auto repairs... but I do like to cook and bake. Even then, I don't know that I'm creative or artistic. Most of my ideas at least start with a recipe, or something I've seen somewhere. If I want to change or add to it, I like to find other ideas in other recipes or such, and then maybe "riff" off of that a bit, but it's hardly a night at the Improv. I think the closest I ever came to artistic were the many different braids that I used to do in my daughter's hair when she was little. She's 27 now, it's been a while ;-) Oh, and even then I had a book that showed me how!

                                                                                                                  1. Sandwich_Sister Mar 28, 2014 01:28 PM

                                                                                                                    I think it is a highly creative outlet.

                                                                                                                    I started off as a fine artist and moved to Web dev, interactive designer as a career. but I still paint, draw sketch etc.

                                                                                                                    My husband loves to cook and he is in the film industry. Lighting to be exact.

                                                                                                                    It seems to be a fun outlet for people who have a creative background.

                                                                                                                    1. elegraph Mar 31, 2014 08:22 PM

                                                                                                                      Graphic designer here, now mostly retired to restaurant biz. Also a musician and vocalist by avocation.

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