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Would you be grossed out by this?

About a week ago, I dined at a fairly popular Midtown restaurant. The restrooms at this place consist of about 6 individual rooms, i.e., no communal door, you have your own toilet, sink, etc. Three are designated for women, three are designated for men. They were all in use when I went to use them, and about a minute later a male cook in chef's whites came flying out of one of the women's rooms and ran back into the kitchen. When I went into the bathroom, the seat was down, and there was urine all over the seat and on the floor. And I mean aaaaall over, like he was trying to put out a fire. The cook was in a real hurry from the way he ran back into the kitchen. Considering the seat was down and he hadn't bothered to even pretend to clean up after himself, I would say it's possible that he didn't wash his hands. Note: POSSIBLE. No way to know for sure, I know. Should I have said something to the manager? (this was at the end of my meal, luckily...)

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  1. You absolutely should have let the manager know that the women's rest room was filthy and had urine on the floor.
    Whether or not you wanted to discuss the male cook is up to you. For all you know he may have encountered a mess left from a previous occupant.........................

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    1. re: bagelman01

      That could be why he rushed out! Never assume.

      1. re: bagelman01

        'I don't know if your male employee told you, because he left the room right before I got there, but the washroom is filthy.' Then let the manager draw his/her own conclusions.

      2. I agree to say something to the manager, but think twice about singling someone out who may or may not have made the mess.
        Something to note to the manager is whether or not there is a sign reminding workers to wash their hands. It could be a way of bringing up the subject without point a ahem, finger.

        eta: yes, it does gross me out and ladies are just as bad as men, many times. Sit your princess ass on the toilet. You won't get pregnant, and you won't leave urine sprayed all over the seat for me to clean up or unwittingly sit upon.

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        1. re: monavano

          I've had to clean a lot of restaurant washrooms. The women's room has almost always been worse than the men's. By a lot.

          1. re: LexiFirefly

            I have to chime in and concur. Over my dozens of years in the business at the end of the night when it comes to turning off the lights or just inspecting the rest rooms, 9 out of 10 times the ladies room is a wreck.

            Not being a woman myself I'm not exactly sure how accurate the entire "hover" method is, however I imagine it being about as effective as those water gun games at the boardwalk, where the clown head moves side to side and the balloon over his head fills, the first to pop wins. Yes, that's how I imagine the hover method works in ladies rooms.

            1. re: jrvedivici

              Very funny, and accurate! Perhaps I should start a ladies lavatory PSA campaign; Cover, Don't Hover.

              The More You Know ;-)

              1. re: monavano

                Interesting, my ass has never rotted off from sitting on a foreign toilet seat , covered of course!

                1. re: cstr

                  I discovered this little beauty in the men's room of my office. I think there is a part Condor part Man somewhere in my building. Look at this nest, honestly look at it! Just how paranoid of a world does someone live in if they take this much time and effort to protect themselves while pooping? Seriously ask yourself that, how does this person cross a street, drive a car or survive a lightening/thunder storm?

                  Again, this was in a men's room, I was so impressed like discovery a Mayan ruin, I just left this untouched for future generations to discover in awe.

                  1. re: jrvedivici

                    Where's the Purell bottle, they may need to rub down before sitting!

                    1. re: jrvedivici

                      reminds me of that scene in american pie.

                2. re: jrvedivici

                  I have the hover method rather perfected for when it's necessary, but most of the time I just sit.

            2. I would have been completely grossed out by urine everywhere and would definitely have mentioned it to someone. But agree with others, don't indict someone when you don't know who made the mess.

              1. Always possible that the chef had discovered the state of the toilet and had rushed back to get it dealt with, rather than being the culprit. But, yes, I would have mentioned the state of the area to the manager.

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                1. re: Harters

                  What a nice conclusion to draw, rather than the negative ones to which we usually jump.

                2. Yuck. I would definitely have mentioned the state of the toilet to the manager, but probably not identified the chef as you didn't actually see him do it.

                  1. Agreed w/ the others, I would say something to the manager, but not mention the chef.

                    1. Gross me out? The fact that he urinated all over the toilet - yes. But no more than anyone else using a public bathroom without regard to the next person who might have to use it. Tell the manager? What would that accomplish really? You'd have to have bathroom police in every stall with every person who uses the bathrooms and you still would not be able to stop this. Some people is just straight up nasty.

                      It's the chances you take when you use a restroom other than your own where you can control the cleanliness. As a side, do you know for sure it was THAT chef who pissed all over the place? The urine may have already been there from someone else when he went in; just because the seat was down doesn't mean he didn't use the toilet then put the seat down....

                      I don't care how many signs are in bathrooms reminding the staff to wash their hands, if they take their hygiene seriously, they wouldn't need a sign. It's something they would automatically do anyway. Like I said, some people are just nasty.

                      1. And with regard to washing his hands, I think it's required for every kitchen to have at least one hand sink (it is in our state) and it will likely have hotter water than the one in the public restroom (again, it does in our state by code).

                        So you might or might not want to assume he washed his hands really thoroughly in the back.

                        1. Anytime there is a problem with the cleanliness of a bathroom or any area of a restaurant it is only prudent to inform management. If you wanted to point out you witnessed a male employee as the last to use the facility is completely up to you, but the cleanliness is certainly an issue to be brought up.

                          1. Yes, you should absolutely let the manager know about the lack of cleanliness of the bathroom. Like others, not sure re: noting it was a male cook who came out of the room; perhaps just saying a male employee of the restaurant's staff came out before you went in there. You're not singling anyone specific out, but at least it makes them aware the male staff is also using the ladies room.

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                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              If they are individual rooms, I've never understood the point of making them gender-specific. If there is a vacant room, shouldn't anyone be allowed to use it rather than having to wait for the correctly designated gender type room to be available? I'm honestly curious as to the logic here.

                              1. re: acgold7

                                I think it has to do with cooties. Girls have them us boy's don't and we generally don't want to catch them.

                                1. re: acgold7

                                  I completely agree, acg. Single use rooms should be open to anyone. There's a restaurant I frequent as a regular where if there's a line, I make sure I tell those in line it's "first come, first served". Some women are surprised, but 90% of the time, they'll use either. When you gotta go, you gotta go. :-)

                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                    LMAO........do you know how many women I have seen going to the bathroom in the men's room sinks at various concerts or sporting events over the years??

                                    (remember I'm in Jersey we are not civilized in this state, it's pretty much every man/women for themselves)

                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                      Probably as many men as have seen me using the men's room at concerts/events/crowded bars. I'm from Philly . . . we're only slightly more civilized than NJ.

                                      1. re: gaffk

                                        Don't worry too much about it, guy rule is not to make eye contact with the girl while she's on the sink peeing, that's just rude.

                                      2. re: jrvedivici

                                        Uh, no.... got that scene from Bridesmaids in my head now.

                                        1. re: monavano

                                          Just to clarify I did not mean to insinuate the sinks were being used for the bathroom as the scene in Bridesmaids was. I have only seen it used for #1, or should I say I assume #1, I've never actually checked.

                                        2. re: jrvedivici

                                          Hey, I used one of the men's rooms at the old Foxboro Stadium during a Rolling Stones concert (but NOT the sink! Ewww!) Ladies room line was way too long, and I and my friends were in and out of the men's room within 5 minutes. The ladies room line had barely moved when we walked out....until several women saw what we did and followed suit.

                                          And I grew up in New Jersey, so I know the every woman for herself rule. ;-)

                                          ETA: P.S., jr, in this restaurant I frequent, it's the *guys* in line who are more surprised at the women using the men's room than the other way around.

                                          1. re: jrvedivici

                                            To further prove my point about peeing at events in the greater NY area I offer you all the following article;


                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                              That's so wrong. I had to pee in the men's room at a Bruce concert once but not in the sink. My husband took me in, the guys yell, "Heads up! Lady coming in," I covered my eyes and he guided me to a stall. But I don't think it bothered the men one bit. The stall I used was quite clean, but they did have attendants. I think that matters alot when you have multitudes of people using the facilities.

                                          2. re: acgold7

                                            A few years ago we renovated our church fellowship hall. For various reasons we ended up with 5 individual single occupant rooms instead of a men's room and a women's room. In the first year one of the rooms had a men sign and one had a women sign, the last one at the end of the hall was larger and had a handicapped symbol. The other two were for whoever.

                                            By the end of the first year the men and women signs were both gone. Don't know how, why, when, or who - but as far as I know no one has complained about it. But when I was designing it lots of men and lots of women bent my ear about how unsanitary it was for men and women to use the same bathroom. When asked none of them could explain their feelings, but they were clearly upset by the idea.

                                        3. you know what, i bet that chef was running to the manager to tell him or her that there is piss all over a toilet in the women's restroom. good for him!

                                          1. So let's just turn this around: let's say you (any of you/me/us) work at this restaurant. Sure, you're in a hurry, and you walk into a bathroom to find urine everywhere. Maaaaaybe, before running to the manager to inform him/her, you'd pull the door closed behind you and tell the folks waiting, "Hey, that needs cleaning, please use a different bathroom." Because maybe you wouldn't want your clients seeing that?

                                            Or maaaybe the guy just pissed all over and ran off like a douche (my 99% likelihood). I'd have no problem detailing what I saw to the manager (if Chef is innocent he can convince his boss).

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                                            1. re: DuchessNukem

                                              I think we should all just assume the chef pissed all over everything for reasons unknown, rather than pissing into the toilet And, no, of course, he didnt wash his hands.

                                              Is there more to be said?

                                              1. re: Harters

                                                Lol. Only that I was surprised to see the belabored and improbable suggestions that chef was running to let the manager know of the state he'd found the bathroom in. :)

                                                1. re: DuchessNukem

                                                  Yeah, I'm thinking that was a big NO. More likely running to avoid being picked out in a pissing lineup. ;-)

                                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                                    poor guy didnt have tme to piss before he had to pull the souffle... this is why he should have worn depends to work

                                              1. What makes you think seeing this at the 'end of your 'meal' was good? I mean maybe he was in there earlier.... well, you know. Anyhow, quite questionable about the hand washing but, one can only assume by the pee on the seat.