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Big beard in the fish store?

ElsieB Jan 25, 2014 08:36 AM

Would you be bothered if a bushy bearded person was cutting and wrapping your fresh fish? Not a neatly trimmed beard but a long and scraggly one?

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    JoannaNYC Feb 19, 2014 11:06 AM

    Just as I do with my long hair, both at home cooking and back when waitressing, tie it up. The Health Department doesn't force me to do this at home, common sense does. If beard nets are not required, braid it, nobody wants long hair swinging over any food preparation.

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      rasputina Feb 20, 2014 02:54 PM

      I don't see what length has to do with it. Hair is hair, be it long or short.

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        josephnl Feb 20, 2014 03:44 PM

        I couldn't agree with you more...but obviously other CH's are not bothered by "long hair swinging over food"...yuck! I think the same rules should apply to raw or cooked food. Certainly it's the standard in any industrial food preparation facility.

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          sunshine842 Feb 20, 2014 06:03 PM

          well, hell -- let's just make sure all food workers are shaved shiny and smooth, then we'll dip 'em in disinfectant and wrap 'em in Saran Wrap.


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            josephnl Feb 20, 2014 11:18 PM

            The op was talking about a "long and scraggly" beard.

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              sunshine842 Feb 21, 2014 03:41 AM

              but it's been pointed out that short hairs leave the body at the same rate as long hairs -- so even that guy with a tight fade is dropping hairs.

              Long hair is not automatically any more or less clean than short hair -- and I would rather have a long, easily-spotted beard hair than a short, hard-to-see nose hair.

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                josephnl Feb 21, 2014 07:13 AM

                You're right...enjoy! You shop where you want, and I'll...

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                  jrvedivici Feb 21, 2014 07:19 AM

                  I for one will go on the record and say;

                  A short and curly hair found on a fish wrapped by a guy with a long and stringy beard would worry me a whole lot more than a long stringy hair found on same fish. Same would go for a clean shaven guy as well !!

                  Got me?

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                    Puffin3 Feb 21, 2014 08:32 AM

                    I saw a 'short and curly' in the Wor Won Ton once. I was doing the serving.
                    I ladled it out with the other ingredients and handed the bowl to my brother-in-law. The restaurant was dimly lit.
                    He never saw a thing besides the tasty squid etc.

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                      ricepad Feb 21, 2014 12:10 PM

                      Perfect solution.

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                      sunshine842 Feb 21, 2014 05:09 PM

                      dingdingding --- thank you!

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            josephnl Feb 18, 2014 09:51 PM

            You bet I would be bothered. I obviously can't contol what I can't see, but I expect everyone I do see handling food that I will eat to at least appear reasonably well kempt and clean. The fact that I will later cook the food is irrelevant. What if I were to buy precooked shrimp or crab, or perhaps ahi that I planned to eat raw or seared?

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              sunshine842 Feb 19, 2014 03:43 AM

              the OP said "cutting and wrapping fresh fish" - not a single mention of precooked shrimp or crab (which might still be in the shell...). If it's still on the shell, there's stuff on that shell that (if I let myself think about it) bothers me a *whole* lot more than a stray beard hair. Or eyelash. Or hair from someone's head. Or strand of seaweed. etc., etc., etc.

              -- and you wouldn't rinse ahi before eating it raw or seared?

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                Gastronomos Feb 19, 2014 05:13 AM

                precooked shrimp should be rinsed, according to package instructions. the fish monger only emptied a bag onto ice, nothing more. crab meat would be in a sealed container, no? and ahi, sushi grade, well, there isn't enough to feed all the people that think they are eating sushi grade....

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                Billy33 Feb 18, 2014 07:35 PM

                No, I wouldn't be bothered because the person isn't working with prepared food. Also, a long hair is much easier to spot than a short hair. A short hair has as much chance of falling onto food as a long hair.

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                  Dave Feldman Feb 9, 2014 08:49 PM

                  1. It wouldn't bother me.

                  2. This has the best subject head I've seen in a long, long time.

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                    treb Jan 31, 2014 11:50 AM

                    No, as long as he's not a nose picker.

                    1. Ttrockwood Jan 30, 2014 07:45 PM

                      Nope. That fish has been drinking, sleeping, living and pooping in the same water for a long time. Beard hair is nothing to fret over.

                      1. Cherylptw Jan 28, 2014 10:54 PM

                        Why limit the question to fish stores? If you want to go there, consider all the people who handle the rest of your food. I'm pretty sure that people who are in agriculture don't wear hair nets (or in this case, beard nets) in a field or garden while picking your vegetables. There is no law pertaining to that.

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                          coll Jan 29, 2014 04:33 AM

                          The only place I've seen beard nets is a local bread factory, but they choose to do so to get the top rating that they can put on the box. Not required as far as I know, as you say. It's sort of a pain to go there, you have to dress up like you're going into an ICU operating room, because once you start with beard nets, and hair nets, and special disinfected boots and the lab coat.....well, I can't see a little fish store bothering.

                          In my experience, many if not most fishermen have long scraggly beards, so to me it would indicate he probably knows his stuff!

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                          rasputina Jan 28, 2014 09:19 AM


                          1. jrvedivici Jan 27, 2014 09:52 AM

                            Just out of curiosity is it the beard or the fish? Why such a specific question.....is it not ok for fish, but fine for a meat butcher?

                            I love how people are sooooooo disturbed but what they see, or think they see, but are ignorantly blissful of all the conditions your food see's prior to making it to your table or plate.

                            A big bushy beard is nothing to fear!! Unless it's driving a van and offering you candy to get in and help him look for his lost puppy, then run!!!

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                              INDIANRIVERFL Jan 27, 2014 10:12 AM

                              Following that thought, we should probably move this to the


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                              LeoLioness Jan 27, 2014 08:17 AM


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                                beevod Jan 27, 2014 07:50 AM

                                Man or woman?

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                                  Raffles Jan 26, 2014 03:46 PM

                                  I'd worry more about fingernail putty....

                                  1. Gastronomos Jan 26, 2014 01:17 PM

                                    I been thinkin' that slipping that tartar sauce lubricated fish taco into my pie hole might be better if I washed the fish first when I got it home.

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                                      sunshine842 Jan 26, 2014 03:22 PM

                                      why? did you not cook the fish?

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                                        Gastronomos Jan 27, 2014 09:57 AM

                                        I've been sold a bearded clam and wild mussels that still have the beard attached. Some cleaning beforehand should help.

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                                      Steve L Jan 26, 2014 12:10 PM

                                      Ever seen the crew of a typical fishing boat?

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                                        Raffles Jan 26, 2014 03:45 PM

                                        Well said! P&G are gearing up for beards! Too bad Jay Carney cut his off...

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                                          Puffin3 Feb 21, 2014 08:27 AM

                                          When he realized he couldn't 'grow one' I guess he gave up trying.

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                                        ErnieD Jan 26, 2014 11:25 AM

                                        Nope. Not at all. Fish interact with enough gross things the a beard coming within a foot of them doesn't seem like much of a problem

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                                          ricepad Jan 26, 2014 09:33 AM

                                          If it was so long that it got in the way and was draped all over the fish (ZZ/Duck Dynasty), then yes, I'd be bothered. Otherwise, probably not.

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                                            kseiverd Jan 26, 2014 05:50 AM

                                            Probably wouldn't bother me at unless he was running fingers thru it as he perpared my fish... or it was LONG enough to touch the product!?! Do people wear hair nets when they cook at home?

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                                              Puffin3 Jan 26, 2014 06:20 AM

                                              Not likely but the ones with the beards are eating their own food so who cares.

                                            2. coll Jan 26, 2014 05:49 AM

                                              Not for nothing, but still.

                                              1. Karl S Jan 26, 2014 05:40 AM

                                                The ocean is far dirtier, fwiw.

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                                                  cheesemonger Jan 26, 2014 05:27 AM

                                                  No. I'd wash the fish when I got home, which I would have done anyway, and judge the place on the quality of the product.

                                                  1. ttoommyy Jan 25, 2014 08:13 PM

                                                    Not in the least. Think of what fish swim in and what purpose a lot of crustacean's serve in their natural habitat. I clean what I can when I get home but hey, if I'm willing to ingest a live clam with its digestive track intact, what can a man with an unkempt beard possibly add that is worse?

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                                                      BobbieSue Jan 25, 2014 08:04 PM

                                                      Yes, definitely. I wouldn't want that around any food. I would leave, I would not buy from that place. Aren't there health regulations about that?

                                                      1. boogiebaby Jan 25, 2014 01:25 PM

                                                        No, because I would come home and wash the fish before cooking anyway.

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                                                          pedalfaster Jan 25, 2014 02:13 PM

                                                          I thought the same thing.

                                                          Plus the fish had been swimming in water where other fish had pooped...so there's that. How squeamish should one be?

                                                          I'm guessing any errant hairs would be removed at the same time the cook is removing pin bones.

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                                                            monfrancisco Jan 25, 2014 03:38 PM

                                                            W. C. Fields supposedly said that he didn't drink water because fish fornicated in it.

                                                        2. bagelman01 Jan 25, 2014 11:37 AM

                                                          No, but in my community the local health district requires food handlers with beards to wear a hairnet over the beard (no matter the length).

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                                                            mucho gordo Jan 25, 2014 01:13 PM

                                                            It's the same here in Vegas and, IIRC, L.A. too

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                                                              pjbear05 Jan 30, 2014 07:37 PM

                                                              Good for them!

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                                                              chowyadoin99 Jan 25, 2014 11:11 AM

                                                              Depends. If it was Grumpy or Sneezy, yeah. But Doc would be OK I guess.

                                                              I'll tellya though, I wouldn't want Dopey handling my food, even though he doesn't have a beard.

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                                                                  justicenow Jan 25, 2014 08:50 AM

                                                                  Yes, it would bother me. I think use of hairnets should be much more common.
                                                                  I don't care if the people making my duck calls have beards.

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                                                                    poser Jan 25, 2014 08:48 AM

                                                                    The PC answer would be no. But in reality, for whatever reason, yes it may.

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                                                                      wadejay26 Jan 25, 2014 08:42 AM


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