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Kinchley's pizza is bad - what's all the obsession?

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peanuttree Jan 24, 2014 09:34 AM

I don't get why people love Kinchley's pizza. It's weird and bad. The crust is like pie dough or something, it clearly has shortening in it and was even flaky (NOT normal or good for pizza), the sauce was overly sweet, and the whole thing was just bad.

Why do people love it so much?
You people are just wrong

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    Sdenred RE: peanuttree Jan 24, 2014 10:47 AM

    To each, his or her own.

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      ELA RE: Sdenred Jan 24, 2014 11:34 AM

      Agreed...thank you.

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      fourunder RE: peanuttree Jan 24, 2014 11:04 AM

      I wouldn't say it's bad or people are wrong for loving it....but I would agree with you it's different and not my favorite...

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        peanuttree RE: fourunder Jan 24, 2014 11:13 AM

        well that's what I'm asking; what is the appeal?

        Am I not right that the crust has shortening in it? and isn't that weird?

        anybody ever work there and can back up my suspicion?

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          ELA RE: fourunder Jan 24, 2014 11:37 AM

          I agree as well.

          It's a "different" style of thin-crust pizza. When I first tried it years ago, I didn't like it at all. I tried it again over the course of a few years and liked it strictly for a "change of pace" type of thing. Years later I tried it -- and it was still the same pizza -- and I liked it. Ironically, I moved to the area and enjoy going there every so often and I like the pizza.

          That said, I am not a regular or big fan of thin-crust pizza, regardless of the style; but when I want it/like it there are several places I'll go -- Kinchley's is just one. There are several other in the area.

          Regularly, I am a fan of "traditional" pizza or Sicilian.

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            ELA RE: fourunder Jan 24, 2014 11:42 AM

            Ironically...the place is always mobbed! Must be a lot of people who like it...which doesn't make them right or the other wrong.

            When I first went there, I didn't like it. Just my tastes.

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              fourunder RE: ELA Jan 24, 2014 11:48 AM

              the very first time I went there someone recommended the Garbage Pie....one of the worst pizzas I ever ate. We also ordered the Antipasto Salad which included fresh mozz.....it was cubed Polly-O....needless to say I was not impressed either. Over the years, I've learned to order simple and I find it's much better.

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                ELA RE: fourunder Jan 24, 2014 11:57 AM

                LOL...yeah, I wouldn't have ordered that. LOL. I think the first time I went there I got a simple pie -- maybe mushroom, or sausage, I don't remember. I figured if it were my first experience, I should tread lightly. LOL.

                Other than the pizza, I have ordered very few things there.

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                  fourunder RE: ELA Jan 24, 2014 12:05 PM

                  ELA,
                  have you ever been to Tony G's in South Hackensack? They have the old JacQuinto's(?) *Old Judge* pie...

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                    ELA RE: fourunder Jan 24, 2014 12:10 PM

                    On Huyler St...yes, haven't been there in a while though. I was recently at Lido and also Brooklyn's Coal Burning Brick Oven...the former was my idea and the latter was not. LOL.

                    Kinchley's has long been immensely popular and still gets highly rated as the "one of the top" or "one of the best" and so on...Not that it means anything.

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                      Curlz RE: ELA Jan 24, 2014 01:11 PM

                      See also: any discussion about Rutt's Hut <grins and ducks>

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                        ELA RE: Curlz Jan 24, 2014 01:17 PM

                        LOL...

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                        fourunder RE: ELA Jan 24, 2014 01:11 PM

                        i like Lido and Barcelona's....Brooklyn, not so much... You don't care for thin, but the pie at Mario's is quite possibly the thinnest in the world...and that includes pizza made with tortillas.

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                          ELA RE: fourunder Jan 24, 2014 01:19 PM

                          Agreed...that's why I commented about the former and the latter. LOL.

                          I've never been to Barcelona's...what can you tell us about that place and the pie? Thanks.

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                            fourunder RE: ELA Jan 24, 2014 01:27 PM

                            very inexpensive Italian, probably cheaper than Lido if that's possible....but the owner Jimmy and his family have been in the businessess for something like 70 years....and he's been a part of the community foreve and he refuses to raise his prices...The edge he has over Lido....he has at least renovated....he really caters to families and it's better than sitting in a pizzeria....he also has liquor and pitchers of beer. You should check out his website. I'm on an ipad for the first time and away from the computer...oherwise I would add a link for you...My nephew loves to go there after golf...cheap pizza and cheap beer.

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                              ELA RE: fourunder Jan 24, 2014 08:10 PM

                              Got it...thanks...so where is it?

                              And what about Mario?

                              Thanks.

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                                fourunder RE: ELA Jan 24, 2014 08:18 PM

                                http://www.mariosrestaurantpizza.com/

                                http://barcelonasnj.com/

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                                  ELA RE: fourunder Jan 24, 2014 08:25 PM

                                  Thank you again...both off the beatin' path a bit. I am in Hackensack a lot more often as my office is right around the corner in Paramus. But I am in Clifton regularly. No problem making a special trip though! LOL.

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                                    fourunder RE: ELA Jan 24, 2014 08:52 PM

                                    I was just checking the Yelp reviews and apparently the place has new owners.....I was only recommending the *Emma* pizza at Mario's. If they are still using the same recipe, you have to see it for yourself on how thin it is.. I

                                    I'm always fascinated by restaurant that have this type of longevity....and I find the naysayers have nothing good to say because they just don't get it..i.e. the simplicity of the food and the nostalgia value it holds for others.

                                    The first time I went, I enjoyed it more than nearby La Sicilia.

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                                      wblorch RE: fourunder Jan 25, 2014 08:54 AM

                                      Yes Marios was sold several years ago. The pizza and menu have changed for the worse IMHO. The son of the original owners has opened Barilari's Restaurant down the street on the opposite side of Van Houten. They make the "Emma Style" pizza. However they dont use that name anymore as apparently it was sold with the business.

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                                        fourunder RE: wblorch Jan 25, 2014 09:00 AM

                                        Thanks for the news and clarification....would you say the new place has good pizza, and do they have dine-in availability...or strictly take-out?

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                                          wblorch RE: fourunder Jan 25, 2014 09:12 AM

                                          The new place is smaller but has a dining area. The pizza is good and the dinners are good as well.

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                                            fourunder RE: wblorch Jan 25, 2014 09:22 AM

                                            Thanks...

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              ELA RE: peanuttree Jan 24, 2014 11:33 AM

              Just wrong? Some people like chocolate and some people like vanilla. And some people like the many other flavors that are out there. Liking one doesn't make someone wrong. You don't like it...so be it.

              However, in my opinion, to simply point to someone who does like it and say they are wrong, is offensive.

              1. JustJake RE: peanuttree Jan 24, 2014 11:49 AM

                How about a little help. Where the hell is Kinchley's in the first place? It's like we're all supposed to know - we don't.

                While I feel that way about Pete & Elda's (blasphemy to many who will arrive at my front door with pitchforks and torches), I've got my baker's dozen of great pizzarias within 10 minutes of me.

                But again, a little help.

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                  ELA RE: JustJake Jan 24, 2014 11:58 AM

                  Kinchley's is on Franklin Turnpike, not too far off Route 17 North, in Ramsey, NJ.

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                  peanuttree RE: peanuttree Jan 24, 2014 12:44 PM

                  there's kind of a lot of "to each his own, I agree with you, but that doesn't make them WRONG" and such nail biting. yes , thank you, different people have different opinions. A real discussion goes beyond that.

                  also, as food critics/foodies, are we not supposed to NOT subscribe to that? That there often is a right and a wrong? That's why I like Jeffrey Steingarten - "No, it's OBJECTIVELY took salty" (said on Iron Chef when another judge said "it's too salty to my taste")

                  Not saying that kinchley's is objectively bad, you can't really argue with their kind of success, just making a general point. And maybe pointing to their crust, I could swear I remember it was actually flaky like pie crust, and had that shortening taste . Like I said, can't argue with success, but isn't that an odd thing to do with pizza?

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                    fourunder RE: peanuttree Jan 24, 2014 01:13 PM

                    no more odd than using Olive Oil.

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