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I hate Zip Locks - The disappearence of non-ziplock bags...

StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 12:54 PM

Okay, so just barely cookware, and a totally ridiculous obsession, but I hate zip lock bags. Too hard to zip, can't really get the air out. If stuff get's in the zipper they won't zip. 4X as expensive. They never fold well. Can't really slip a small bowl, plate, or saucer inside.

Call me crazy, but I prefer the old fashioned twist tie bags. Cheap, they work, much more versatile and NO ZIP. Sad thing is they are harder and harder to find. Target, NOPE. Here in Boston, only one supermarket chain, the local Market Basket still carries them.

Drives me bonkers.

Did I mention I absolutely HATE zip lock bags.

Does anyone else share this obsession and sadness regarding this increasingly endangered species.

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  1. Veggo RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 01:03 PM

    I switched to the el-cheapo rigid plastic containers with lids. I haven't seen a plastic bag with a twist tie since I won a goldfish at a fair long ago. I tired from lugging the bagged fish around so I swallowed it. Your avatar reminded me of the experience.

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      StriperGuy RE: Veggo Jan 22, 2014 01:35 PM

      Hah, me and a buddy talked a third friend into swallowing a goldfish won at a fair once. We told him (lied) that we had both done it in college, and after all what's the big deal... Gulp! He went for it.

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        MarlboroMan RE: StriperGuy Jan 25, 2014 08:09 PM

        In a similar vein, we went to a local carnival in May of last year. 4 year old daughter lost the game, but won a goldfish as a consolation prize.. or the guy was just being nice, I'm not sure. Daughter thrilled.. her first "pet." (She named him/her/it "Flippy").

        We figured it would be dead in a week or two. Then we'd have to explain about death, and send Flippy to heaven via the toilet bowl grave ceremony.

        Nope. Freakin' thing is still going strong. No tank, no special equipment, not even an air pump. I think it's because we don't feed him often.

        I've heard goldfish can live for a very long time. An old neighbor of mine had one that lasted 15 years. Shudder.

        Ack.. I just googled this and found out they can live up to 40 years, or more. Flippy may outlive me!

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          StriperGuy RE: MarlboroMan Jan 27, 2014 06:32 AM

          My local Shaw's did not have them, nor did Target, nor did the local Dollar store (though they used to). Finally found them at at Stop and Shop, bot three boxes.

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      wadejay26 RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 01:04 PM

      I love Zipped bags. I have several sizes.

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        mwhitmore RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 01:08 PM

        Blame the legalized marijuana industry. (grin)

        1. wekick RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 01:13 PM

          I use both but the non zip disappeared completely for awhile but have reappeared at a few places. They are a little smaller but at least you can get them.

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            MarlboroMan RE: wekick Jan 25, 2014 08:11 PM

            I think your best bet would be a dollar store.

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              pine time RE: MarlboroMan Jan 26, 2014 08:54 AM

              Yes, our 99 cent store sells the non-zip bags.

          2. Veggo RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 01:23 PM

            While living in Mexico I had an issue with scorpions on the tile floors. I zapped one with Raid, but I couldn't sleep that night, with visions that critter was going to heal up and come after me. So I got up and flicked him into a Ziploc. Nothing escapes a Ziploc. I'm back in FL now, but I still have the Ziploc, with 7 or 8 scorpions in it. I'm holding the bag now, that's how I know the spelling, at least in Mexico!

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              hazelhurst RE: Veggo Jan 22, 2014 01:26 PM

              That sounds like the bullet collection the NKVD/KGB kept in the Lubyanka in Moscow....supposedly individually labeled execution bullets..."Yezhov," "Yagoda," etc.

            2. coll RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 01:44 PM

              I like the old fashioned Ziploc that you press to close. I hate the new ones with the actual zipper tab on it, they never seem to close tight.

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                c oliver RE: coll Jan 22, 2014 02:01 PM

                I still buy the former at Costco. Sandwich, quart and gallon sizes. I love them for traveling. Nothing ever leaks into the suitcase.

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                  coll RE: c oliver Jan 22, 2014 04:48 PM

                  All we have is BJs and they have the Zipper tab type. Really not a fan. We do have Costco coming in April so I will add it onto my list of things to check out in general.

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                    Querencia RE: coll Jan 26, 2014 07:29 PM

                    In the Chicago area Jewel Foods has the non-zip bags in their house brand, Essential Everyday, in the gallon size and also in sandwich size.

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                      bear RE: Querencia Jan 27, 2014 06:28 AM

                      That's the same brand that Shaw's carries in the Boston area. I don't think they carry Baggies, but I'll check next time.

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                        macca RE: bear Jan 27, 2014 06:36 AM

                        The Shaws in Melrose used to have them. Not sure if they still do- the only reason I know, is because I bought them by mistake. That's what happens when I shop without my glasses!

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                          bear RE: macca Jan 27, 2014 06:42 AM

                          Ha, I hear ya on that! (I put szechuan peppercorns instead of crushed red pepper in my marinara sauce once!)

                          I just bought some last week at the Shaw's on Lexington St. in Waltham. Hopefully they won't discontinue them. I'll have to check out Ocean State Job Lot next time I'm there.

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                            macca RE: bear Jan 27, 2014 07:35 AM

                            Was at Ocean State last week- great deal on the Stretch Tite wrap, as well as Howards piccalilli and relish.

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                              alkapal RE: bear Jan 29, 2014 10:03 AM

                              "ma la nara"

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                                bear RE: alkapal Jan 29, 2014 02:06 PM

                                Ha! A fitting title for my creation.

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                            masha RE: bear Jan 27, 2014 07:59 AM

                            Shaws and Jewel were 2 of the chains, previously owned by Supervalu, that were sold off to "New Albertsons" last year. So, they have common ownership. Like Querencia, I live in the Chicago area and get my non-ziplock bags from Jewel. (See my comments downthread about having to look for them carefully on the bottom shelf.)

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                      tcamp RE: coll Jan 23, 2014 09:02 AM

                      Second that. We keep muffins in ziplocs in the freezer and the zipper ones don't open easily once frozen. PITA.

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                        GH1618 RE: tcamp Jan 23, 2014 09:07 AM

                        That may be, but they do keep bread in good condition in the freezer. I freeze hamburger buns in sealing storage bags and they are like new when thawed. I thaw them before opening the bag.

                    3. c oliver RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 02:04 PM

                      When I make stocks or broths or Bolognese sauce, I put portion sizes in zipping bags, freeze flat and then stand up in a box in the freezer. Saves a ton of space.

                      1. RUK RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 02:21 PM

                        Around here I can pick up a whole roll of - not sure how many, perhaps 600 plastic bags for ca 6 bucks at HMart! They are great for sandwiches, cookies, left over cheese, whatever you have.

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                          bear RE: RUK Jan 22, 2014 05:02 PM

                          Good to know about HMart. Are they small sandwich-sized bags?

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                            RUK RE: bear Jan 23, 2014 05:57 AM

                            No, they are actually decent size, I use them for all sorts of things.

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                              bear RE: RUK Jan 23, 2014 06:13 AM

                              Thanks, RUK. I'll check it out next time I'm there. I feel a bipimbap craving coming on now.

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                          GH1618 RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 04:55 PM

                          I use polyethelene sandwich bags with a flap. Mostly I use them for their intended purpose, but they are also good for storage. They fit snugly over my small Arcoroc bowls, and the seal can then be secured with a rubber band. They can be placed over the end of a brick of cheese and secured in the same way. And they are inexpensive.

                          I don't much like twist ties, but when I need a larger bag I just reuse the bag from a loaf of bread or a bag from the produce section of the supermarket.

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                            bear RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 05:01 PM

                            I use Zip Locks often, but definitely like the twist tab bags for bread and lots of other storage that doesn't require something heavy-duty. Using Zip Locks for those feels wasteful and is expensive, and as you say it's so convenient to slip a plate in the bag before for easy storage.

                            I am not a huge fan of my local Shaw's, but appreciate that they have boxes of Essential Everyday bags, 75 count. I can't remember how much, though, but it's nice to have a consistent source.

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                              bevwinchester RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 05:32 PM

                              Ditto- they are efficient WHEN they work properly but mostly a PITA! A and don't even ask me about the pitiful quality ones the deli counters use that break the 1st time you use them. I purchased a big lot of large sturdy twist top bags through King Arthur Flour- had to pay shp. But it was worth it.

                              1. westsidegal RE: StriperGuy Jan 22, 2014 08:34 PM

                                i have not found the non-zip bags to be an endangered species at all.
                                sometimes they are called "bread bags"
                                sometimes they are call "food storage" bags.

                                they cost about half the price of the zippered ones.
                                available at every grocery store and many 99cent stores as well.

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                                  masha RE: westsidegal Jan 23, 2014 07:24 AM

                                  Like the OP I much prefer the old-style bags over the ziplocks. I generally find them at my regular supermarket, but always located on the lowest shelf. You really have to look for them, and they are not always in stock. I buy both the fold-over sandwich size bags, and the "food-storage" 1 gallon size. The food-storage bags typically come with about 2x the number of twisties as the number of bags, so I always got enough twisties for the sandwich size bags too, when that's how I want to close them.

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                                  Fydeaux RE: StriperGuy Jan 23, 2014 06:11 AM

                                  I dont share your hatred of ziplocks, but the old style of fold-over sandwich bags have their use. My daughter is a tattoo artist and uses them to cover equipment, etc.

                                  Check places like Big Lots and other dollar store. They usually have them in several sizes.

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                                    falconress RE: StriperGuy Jan 25, 2014 07:54 PM

                                    I don't know that I feel as strongly as you, but I know where you're coming from. I prefer twist tie bags for most uses, too, although sometimes a zip bag is practical.

                                    Most supermarkets have 1-gallon size bags under their own brand name or Baggies brand. The store brands pull out of the box one-by-one, the Baggies are on a roll and you tear each one off.

                                    Baggies also makes sandwich-size and 2-gallon size twist tie bags, which are a little harder to find locally but can be ordered online.

                                    If you don't mind sandwich bags with flaps, you can get those under the house brand in most supermarkets, too.

                                    Another bag that's harder for me to find locally are Ziploc bags in the 1/2 gallon size with an expandable bottom. I don't even know exactly why I like them so much, because objectively, they don't do anything functionally better than the gallon or quart size. But I like them enough to occasionally order them online (Amazon).

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                                      coll RE: falconress Jan 26, 2014 02:54 AM

                                      My favorite is the 2 gallon size, it's like finding a pot of gold!

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                                        StriperGuy RE: coll Jan 27, 2014 06:33 AM

                                        Hmmm, I've never seen 2 gallon sized...

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                                          coll RE: StriperGuy Jan 27, 2014 08:37 AM

                                          You have to look a little harder than for most, not every store carries it. I've always got my eye out. I've bought name brand and house brand, it's such a great size. The bigger supermarkets are where I find it usually.

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                                            falconress RE: StriperGuy Jan 30, 2014 08:03 AM

                                            I got curious, so I Googled that for you... Actually, I just Googled "baggies," and judging by the results, the NSA will be at my door any day to arrest me for trying to find drug paraphernalia. TIL I'm very naive.

                                            I did find more info on these, though. They are made by Hefty, a division of Reynolds. For some reason, they do not appear on Hefty's website, which also does not have a "where to buy" link. They do have a "contact us" page here: http://www.hefty.com/contact-us/

                                            I'm in NY and I usually get them at the Fairway, but I have seen them in other groceries.

                                            They are available online but from the sites I skimmed, the prices are outrageous unless you buy a dozen or more. It's more worthwhile to buy a bulk pack of the zip-top type and just rip off the top.

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                                              coll RE: falconress Jan 30, 2014 09:51 AM

                                              Baggies! I don't think I've heard that name mentioned since the 1970s, now I'll be looking everywhere I go just for the hell of it.

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                                          alkapal RE: falconress Jan 26, 2014 08:26 PM

                                          i thought the expandable bottom bags were discontinued. i'll renew my search for them. i like them, too.

                                          i thought that perhaps they had been discontinued because maybe people had misused them, getting scalded pouring hot liquid in causing the bag to collapse.

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                                            coll RE: alkapal Jan 27, 2014 04:26 AM

                                            The quart size zippers I get at BJs have expandable bottoms. They annoy me though, for some reason.

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                                              Veggo RE: coll Jan 27, 2014 05:35 AM

                                              A frequent cause of divorce, those expandable bottoms.

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                                                coll RE: Veggo Jan 27, 2014 06:13 AM

                                                And even more often, by unexplained annoyances.

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                                          CanadaGirl RE: StriperGuy Jan 26, 2014 10:29 AM

                                          Dollar store? Is there a restaurant supply store near you?

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                                            kseiverd RE: StriperGuy Jan 26, 2014 11:57 AM

                                            I usually go with store-brand zip bags. I don't like ones with "sider" thingies...you lose about and inch of entry space on both sides of bag.

                                            Same with plastic storage containers... no brand names for me. Often used to take lunch to school and nuke. Hurts my cheap Scottish bones, but once they get "cooked" a bit I force myself to just toss!

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                                              Querencia RE: StriperGuy Jan 26, 2014 07:27 PM

                                              I like ziplock bags about 20% of the time but for everything else I like the old-fashioned kind that takes a twistem. I have one supermarket that still has one kind of them and every time I go in I buy a couple more boxes because I just know they're going to discontinue them so I'm stockpiling. Can you get them online? I haven't looked but may come to that. I hate the zip bags for so many reasons but one is that they take up more space in the freezer. The others I can fold right up tight and secure with Scotch tape if space is really a crunch. As it usually is.

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                                                toddrhodes RE: StriperGuy Jan 26, 2014 08:31 PM

                                                I am my own vacuum sealer, using Zip-lok bags. I have protein in a deep freeze for over a year that I self-vacuumed the air from and it's as good as the day I bought it. I'm with you on the "stuff in the zipper" thing but it's not that hard to keep stuff out of the zipper. All I do is zip them 95% shut, create about a 3/4" hole i can suck the air out of and once it's tight, I zip it shut. Seems to work for me /shrug.

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                                                  alkapal RE: toddrhodes Jan 27, 2014 05:56 AM

                                                  to keep stuff out of the zippers i fold a cuff back when i fill it. the bulkiness on the edges caused by the zipper does make it more difficult to fill, for sure.

                                                2. Ruthie789 RE: StriperGuy Jan 30, 2014 04:25 PM

                                                  Glad makes a non ziplock bag and if you ever come to Canada, Loblaw's brand has non ziplock plastic bags. I prefer the non zip took, they hold more, and are not as messy to fill.

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                                                    natasha1 RE: StriperGuy Jun 23, 2014 04:12 PM

                                                    I am in agreement with you! Do you have an Albertson's? They still carry them in their own brand in both the gallon and sandwich size.

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                                                      foiegras RE: StriperGuy Jun 24, 2014 02:18 PM

                                                      I do not, but there are reusable non-plastic bags that do not have the zip feature (which I quite like myself).

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                                                        natasha1 RE: foiegras Jun 24, 2014 02:43 PM

                                                        This got me going and searching. I just ordered a case of them from: http://www.primeonlinestore.com. Had to order a case, but they were cheap! I can't live without them!

                                                      2. breadchick RE: StriperGuy Jun 24, 2014 02:43 PM

                                                        I thought I responded to this a while ago, but it must have been a different thread about twist-tie baggies.

                                                        Anyway, here in upstate NY, we have them in both Price Chopper and Hannaford - and I'm assuming ShopRite has them as well, but I'm not a regular there so can't confirm.

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