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Best authentic chinese restaurant in vegas (cantonese and shanghainese)

Cory Nov 15, 2005 12:59 PM

Where would we also find authentic chinese (cantonese and shanghainese cuisine) in Las Vegas?


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    daantaat RE: Cory Nov 15, 2005 02:23 PM

    best Cantonese:
    Food Express or Cathay House

    best dim sum:
    Chang's of Hong Kong or Cathay House

    best Shanghainese/Northern Chinese:
    Shanghai Noon

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    1. re: daantaat
      izmarkie RE: daantaat Dec 25, 2008 11:05 AM

      Cathay house's dim sum is greasy and bland. Chang's is slightly better, but the wait is usually ridiculous. Ping Pang Pong inside Gold Coast is the most flavorful, has much better variety, and the service is (while still nothing to rave about) substantially better than the other two choices.

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        Erich RE: izmarkie Dec 26, 2008 09:26 AM

        Well, the previous answer was over three years old! Since you brought this back from the dead, I wonder what opinions others have nowadays.

        FWIW (and off-topic), I was astonished at the number of Chinese folks packed into the Wynn informal-dining restaurant Red 8 this week. Man, those chicken feet dim sum were selling well! My wife and I enjoyed a snack at Red 8 after walking past it so many times, but I'm certainly not qualified to say what's the best Vegas has to offer in these styles of cuisine. The other Wynn "Chinese" place, Wing Lei, was no doubt popular with folks, too, but with its Michelin star and French-influenced "refinements," this probably isn't what the OP was seeking.

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          Chandavkl RE: Erich Dec 27, 2008 10:59 AM

          Well, I think Shanghai Noon is gone now. Also a bunch of authentic non-Cantonese places have opened up, including Dong Ting Spring, Yunnan Garden and China MaMa, all branches of L.A. area restaurants, and that dumpling house across the stgreet from China MaMa on Jones.

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            Dave Feldman RE: Chandavkl Dec 28, 2008 09:15 PM

            Can you tell us a little about China MaMa? I've never heard of it.

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              Chandavkl RE: Dave Feldman Dec 29, 2008 07:45 AM

              China MaMa is the Las Vegas outpost of Mama's Kitchen in San Gabriel. Mama's Kitchen in best known primarily for its beef noodle soup and secondarily for its dumplings and snacks and appetizers. Dumpling selection in Las Vegas is not as extensive as in San Gabriel. I'm not sure if China MaMa would be classified as a Taiwanese restaurant (I'm thinking not), or rather a restaurant that is of interest to Taiwanese diners. I should mention that neither Dong Ting Spring, Yunnan Garden or Mama's Kitchen are wildly popular restaurants in the L.A. area--they have their following because of their particular specialty (authentic Hunan, authentic Yunnan/Sichuan and beef noodles, respectively), but they aren't the places you would necessarily think could expand into another metro area.

              By the way the place on the other side of Jones Bl. is called Shan Dong, which might be thought of as a Korean inspired Chinese restaurant given the proximity of Shandong province to Korea.

              1. re: Chandavkl
                ipsedixit RE: Chandavkl Dec 29, 2008 10:02 AM

                I would definitely consider Mama's Kitchen to be Taiwanese.

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                  Chandavkl RE: ipsedixit Dec 29, 2008 10:08 AM

                  Yeah, but they don't have the weird stuff you see at some of the Taiwanese places.

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                    ipsedixit RE: Chandavkl Dec 29, 2008 12:24 PM

                    Weird stuff? Says you, maybe ...


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                      Friend of Bill RE: ipsedixit Dec 29, 2008 01:50 PM

                      Here is a recent review of China Mama. The soup dumplings are excellent.


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      Dave Feldman RE: Cory Dec 29, 2008 04:38 PM

      What are soup dumplings doing in a Taiwanese restaurant? Curious.

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        Chandavkl RE: Dave Feldman Dec 29, 2008 04:45 PM

        Well, I thnk that goes to my point of whether China MaMa should be pegged as a Taiwanese restaurant as opposed to a restaurant that would be patronized by Taiwanese customers. Things like beef noodle soup,Shanghai soup dumplings and other Shanghai fare are not Taiwanese, but are often served at restaurants that are patronized by Taiwanese, at least the ones I know.

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        princetonfoodie RE: Cory Jan 8, 2009 01:41 PM

        Go to the Bellagio. They attract the most high rollers from Hong Kong, and have two in-house restaurants to feed them. One is a fabulous noodle house with first rate dim sum, the other is a more elegant Cantonese. I don't recall the names, but the food is both authentic and first rate. You won't hear much English spoken in either place.

        Of course, since it's the Bellagio, if you haven't been comped you may find them a bit pricey, but there's no real competition for quality and authenticity. Unfortunately I don't recall the restaurant names, but the Bellagio concierge can help you.

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          Chandavkl RE: princetonfoodie Jan 8, 2009 01:46 PM

          The high end place is called Jasmine. I personally refuse to eat there because the prices are ridiculous. There's enough good Chinese food in Chinatown and some of the casinos to be sensible alternatives.

          1. re: Chandavkl
            ipsedixit RE: Chandavkl Jan 8, 2009 08:34 PM

            Jasmine is not very good.

            Even at half its prices, it would still be overpriced, and still not very good.

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              Dave Feldman RE: ipsedixit Jan 9, 2009 12:05 AM

              Unfortunately, from what I've heard from the Chinese high rollers I've met, the good Chinese food on the Strip isn't served in the restaurants but in private banquets. Two I know are put up in the Mansion at MGM and feel there is no better Chinese in the Valley. The irony is that , of course, these meals are comped.

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            Friend of Bill RE: princetonfoodie Jan 9, 2009 12:13 AM

            The noodle house in the Bellagio is called "Noodles" - it's good (as is Noodles Asia at the Venetian); probably as good as you will get on the Strip, but there are many many better places in Chinatown.

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