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chefboyardee Jan 14, 2014 06:21 AM

Looking for some new "higher end" restaurants to try, I always go to the same places, and like them, but want to try some new places. New American/interesting flavor combos probably my cup of tea. My go to places, no 9, clio, journeyman, bergamont, harvest, eastern standard. went to menton recently, dont need to go back, nothing wrong, but nothing great for price point either. Been to trade, also no need to go back. Have not been to oya, just b/c of all that boston mag controversy a few years back, maybe I should get over it? TW food seems interesting, have not been. Anything else? thx hounds!

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    mkfisher Jan 14, 2014 06:25 AM

    My dining dollars are focused around Kendall. The two higher end places we frequent are Catalyst and West Bridge.

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      teezeetoo Jan 14, 2014 06:30 AM

      asta and deuxave

      1. Boston_Otter Jan 14, 2014 07:04 AM

        Not sure what the Boston Magazine controversy around O Ya was, but I certainly enjoyed the omakase when I went.

        It might not be 'high end' enough, but maybe Hungry Mother?

        Went to Salts recently and enjoyed the food, though the service was sort of laughably over-the-top pretentious, as if the server had been watching a lot of Top Chef.

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          mkfisher Jan 14, 2014 07:14 AM


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            Boston_Otter Jan 14, 2014 09:06 AM

            Oh, that hatchet job from six years ago? Yeesh. Well, it doesn't change the fact that they serve some fine bites of food. I still rank their foie gras sushi as the best thing I've eaten in Boston.

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              mkfisher Jan 14, 2014 09:22 AM

              Couldn't agree more. There's one high profile local chef who I know to be an awful human being. He also happens to cook one of my favorite dishes in town, so I still go to his restaurant. It seems silly to not go to a place based on a magazine article from six years ago.

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          ptrefler Jan 14, 2014 07:27 AM

          I would definitely get over it and go to O Ya, also I like Island Creek Oyster and Sycamore in Newton.

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            antimony Jan 14, 2014 07:38 AM

            Maybe try places that are a little less New American:
            East by Northeast?

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              Klunco Jan 14, 2014 09:34 AM

              I think TW Food and Asta would be worth a visit.

              As far as O Ya, here is a more recent review than the Boston mag piece a while back:


              I found O Ya to be the type of place where "value" has to be thrown out the window. If you enjoy it for what it is and truly put the cost out of your mind, you'll have a great time. If you start comparing the cost of a meal there to other high-end temples of gastronomy around the country (or world), you may end up being a little more sinnacle about the experience, and may even find it a rip off. But what has to be kept in mind is how big the menu is and the cost to keep a menu of that size running at that quality level. I think the writer was a little too focused on price in this piece, but it still may be helpful in providing a recent report.

              1. GretchenS Jan 14, 2014 10:03 AM

                EVOO, Rendezvous

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                  Madrid Jan 14, 2014 10:19 AM

                  agree. also Oleana.

                2. opinionatedchef Jan 14, 2014 04:39 PM

                  island creek oyster
                  tw food

                  A horizontal move:
                  o ya
                  l'espalier chef's table

                  Don't bother:
                  hungry mother
                  ten tables cambridge

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                    dlieb Jan 17, 2014 12:10 PM

                    Just out of curiosity, why is Hungry Mother on the don't bother list? I haven't been in a while but always loved it. (I do agree about Ten Tables and (especially) Bondir, though.)

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                      viperlush Jan 17, 2014 02:22 PM

                      I like Hungry Mother for a drink and snacks at the bar, but for dinner it's a toss up. I've always enjoyed what I've eaten, however rarely is there more than one entrée on the menu that I'm interested in, portions can be small and sometimes they seem overpriced.

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                        enhF94 Jan 20, 2014 06:48 PM

                        Nice clarification; I wondered the same.

                  2. enhF94 Jan 14, 2014 05:50 PM

                    It's been a while since I went to Lumiere, but I'd have put it on this type of list. Maybe Troquet, too - Troquet's food isn't four-star, but it's solid and decent while you play in the wine cellar.

                    Oh, and Oleana.

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                      chefboyardee Jan 17, 2014 09:09 AM

                      Gonna try asta, sounds right at my sweet spot. Thanks CH-ers.

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                        bear Jan 17, 2014 09:35 AM

                        Please report back. Have a great time!

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                          teezeetoo Jan 17, 2014 10:11 AM

                          hope I didn't steer you wrong: we enjoyed it and it seemed to fit your other pleasures. Do report back.

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                          phreddo Jan 17, 2014 09:19 AM

                          Oleana, Myers & Chang, Bronwyn?

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