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Jan 13, 2014 10:09 AM

National Pastrami Day, Tuesday, Jan. 14

Believe it or not National Pastrami is a real day! Tell me about your favorite Pastrami Sandwich and where can I get it?

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  1. oh dear god Langer's is going to be a mad house.

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    1. re: ns1

      This is what Langer's posted about National Pastrami Day
      "Langer’s Delicatessen-Restaurant will be the focal point for the celebration of National Pastrami Day, coming this Tuesday, January 14, 2014, at the legendary 7th and Alvarado location.

      Home to the “world’s best pastrami” as acknowledged by fans, food connoisseurs, and critics alike, Langer’s welcomes National Pastrami Day each year with enthusiasm and pride. “We have a lot of fun with it every year,” says owner Norm Langer, “And it turns out that our customers love it too.”

      Langer’s Deli will be open 8AM-4PM on Tuesday, January 14, for National Pastrami Day. Validated 90-minute parking is available at 7th and Westlake, and Langer’s will have plenty of pastrami on hand for the event to handle even the biggest orders. “We’ve served more than six million pounds of pastrami since 1947,” reveals Norm Langer, “so we’ll be ready for anything.”

      Come have fun and enjoy the world’s best pastrami this Tuesday with your friends and family at Langer’s Deli."

      Let the hand carving begin….

      1. re: wienermobile

        damn Pavlov - my mouth started watering.

    2. This may start a shit storm. Big langers fan but the pastrami at greenblatts is even better. Juicier. Mellow flavor. Fatty. Not too salty. Give a shot instead of driving to westlake.

      Of course, i'm always delighted to at Langers too...but i don't think their meat is the best anymore.

      I'm also well on the side of Carnegie vs katzs.

      1. The first photo is Langer's. The second is Katz's.

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        1. re: wienermobile

          Look at how terribad that bread looks in the Katz photo. It tastes as good as it looks.

          1. re: ns1

            the way the new yorkers kiss katz' ass is even more excessive that our supplication towards langers...was good, but somewhat dry, bread bad -- about 1/4 the size of the one at carnegie and nowhere near as juicy and delicious.

            at least langers fucking delivers the goods!

            1. re: ns1

              Look how much more pastrami you get at Katz. Since we are talking...pastrami.

              1. re: Porthos

                Here's a real Katz's pastrami photo from yelp:

                1. re: Porthos

                  I've never had Katz pastrami, but sometimes too much meat throws the ratio of rye to pastrami off for me. Langer's has a good ratio (the golden ratio?) as far as I am concerned. But YMMV.

                  1. re: Servorg

                    I agree. A Carnegie sandwich is oversized and violates the meat to bread ratio.

                    A Katz's pastrami sandwich, mediocre rye and all, is a delicious decadent pile of pastrami.

                    Count me in the Katz's camp (small camp in this neck of the woods) for pastrami alone. Langer's camp for overall sandwich.

                    1. re: Porthos

                      shit you nearly get more swiss on a carnegie pastrami and swiss than you do get pastrami at katz's or langers.

                      some girls say size matters.

                      1. re: jessejames

                        Don't care about swiss, or coleslaw or whatnot on my pastrami sandwich. Just pastrami, bread, and mustard. In that order.

                      2. re: Porthos

                        A photo of a Carnegie Deli Sandwich.

                          1. re: wienermobile

                            But the thing with Carnegie is that it's part of the schtick. No NYC local thinks that's a reasonable expectation for a sandwich.

                            Mr Taster

                            1. re: Mr Taster

                              you speak for the long lines out front every day? i beg to differ.

                              1. re: jessejames

                                I didn't say they don't run a profitable business. I said that it's part of their schtick- it's made them famous. Tourists (and some locals) now have that expectation when they go to that specific restaurant, and it's helped to promote this idea of the NYC deli sandwich as being this wild behemoth monstrosity. But there are many, many more Jewish delis in NYC (Katz's, 2nd Ave, etc.) that do not pile up such absurd amounts of meat on their bread.

                                It's PR schtick, pure and simple-- and it works.

                                Mr Taster

                                  1. re: jessejames

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                                  2. re: Mr Taster

                                    Calling out my own contradiction. I first claimed:

                                    "No NYC local thinks that's a reasonable expectation for a sandwich."

                                    and then saying:

                                    "Tourists (and some locals) now have that expectation when they go to that specific restaurant..."

                                    My writing was sloppy-- I wrote in absolutes, and that always(!) gets you in trouble.

                                    What I meant to say was that Carnegie has, in large part, played into this absurd expectation for tourists of mile-high deli sandwiches (they've got a Carnegie in Vegas, fehcrisssakes...) and while locals know that this isn't the reality across the city, some still go there for nostalgia. (I know a couple of expat NYC oldies in LA that reminisce fondly about Carnegie.) Midwestern tourists, their gentile palates weaned on Schlotzsky's and bad Schnuck's supermarket pastrami, are likely to think Carnegie is "the best pastrami ever!", and by comparison they can't be faulted for coming to this conclusion. I grew up in NJ and my sis now lives in NYC, but she avoids Carnegie like the plague. When our Missouri relatives visit NYC, however, it's the first place they want to go. That, and Puglia (or, as they call it, "Puglia's")

                                    Mr Taster

                                    1. re: Mr Taster

                                      I think this is worth a post on the Manhattan board.

                                      Carnegie or Katz's, and why?


                                      Mr Taster

                        1. re: Porthos

                          porthos, the katz bread is not only bad, it is much smaller surface area wise than the large slabs of crusty rye at langers may appear thinner but i don't think it's say a bit more or about the same

                          1. re: jessejames

                            It is thinner and much less pastrami in my experience. But I haven't had both in over 5 years so maybe portion sizes have shrunk.

                            1. re: Porthos

                              try carnegie

                              ps, im so ready for lunch now and only 1120

                              1. re: jessejames

                                We've discussed this. I don't like Carnegie. It's oversized and dry. :)

                                1. re: Porthos

                                  funny i thought katzs was puny and dry...anyways...glad you enjoy what you do and me too.

                                  1. re: jessejames

                                    Did you tip the slicer and order at the counter?

                                    Can't imagine Katz's being dry. Even the lean is juicy. The regular with all the fat keeps me full for 12-16 hours. I have to be careful when meal planning to account for it.

                                    Agree. To each his/her own.

                                    1. re: Porthos

                                      yes...i took all the suggestions from the NYC hounds and did just that...don't get me wrong, i ate the whole thing gladly.

                                      full? yes with the hotdog which i liked even better...but did i feel like the beached anaconda that swallowed a cow after carnegie? no.

                                      1. re: Porthos

                                        What people don't get is that you need to tip BEFORE you order.

                            2. re: Porthos

                              I'm talking pastrami sandwiches. I will say my Katz sandwich did not look nearly as big as the one weinermobile posted, and yes I did tip when I was standing in line while getting a sampler. Clearly YMMV.

                              All I gotta say is, next time I'm going to Carnegie's, not Katz.

                              1. re: ns1

                                Carnegie isn't even in the discussion when talking pastrami. Guess you can come back and say NYC has no good pastrami along with their no good pizza after that. ;-)

                                Give 2nd Avenue and Pastrami Queen a try if you want to do a true pastrami tasting.

                                1. re: Porthos

                                  Many others disagree with your opinion re: Carnegie. I mean, it can't possibly be more of a letdown than Katz. It's that bread man.

                                  I bought a pastrami sandwich, not a plate of pastrami. A sandwich is defined by all it's components, and that bread is terribad.

                                  1. re: ns1

                                    I'll be here saying "I told you so" ;-)

                                  2. re: Porthos

                                    carnegie is the best of them all, langers included. they blow the competition out of the water for this hound.

                                    1. re: Porthos

                                      ive been to second avenue, not pastrami queen...i'd love to try it when im in nyc next tho

                                      for me:


                                      a lap back: the field.

                                2. re: ns1

                                  Katz's bread looks horrible.

                                  1. re: JAB

                                    It is. It's dry, served straight from a plastic bag. But the pastrami itself is seasoned ever so slightly better than Langer's.

                                    See my comparison report from 2005.


                                    Mr Taster

                                    1. re: JAB

                                      It is. Some people bring their own. But the pastrami is beyond...

                                  2. re: wienermobile

                                    well ill be celebrating tomorrow - good heads up!

                                  3. list of best pastrami in Los Angeles

                                    The Hat [San Gabriel Valley]
                                    2300 S. Atlantic Boulevard, Monterey Park
                                    (Among other locations)

                                    Langer’s Deli [MacArthur Park]
                                    704 S. Alvarado Street, Los Angeles

                                    Plan Check Kitchen + Bar [Sawtelle Corridor]
                                    1800 Sawtelle Boulevard, Los Angeles

                                    Jeff’s Gourmet Kosher Sausage Factory [Westside – Inland]
                                    8930 W. Pico Boulevard, Los Angeles

                                    Bay Cities Italian Deli & Bakery [Westside – Inland]
                                    1517 Lincoln Boulevard, Santa Monica


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                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                      langers aside, what a load of shit. bay cities deli again? go away!

                                      1. re: jessejames

                                        I may as well jump in here before nosh does and say Label's Table (g). Certainly for price it beats the living beejezus out of all the other spots...

                                        See photo here:

                                        1. re: Servorg

                                          but the pastrami not as strong as the brisket there.

                                          i love it tho -- and yes 2 large sandwiches for the price of one smaller in many other spots.

                                    2. OK, why has nobody called out that disgusting pastrami sandwich photo on the eatocracy site? Good lord. My throat gets dry just looking at the pic.

                                      Mr Taster

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                                      1. re: Mr Taster

                                        wtf is that? looks like a deli platter from my workplace.