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National Pastrami Day, Tuesday, Jan. 14

Believe it or not National Pastrami is a real day! Tell me about your favorite Pastrami Sandwich and where can I get it?
http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2013/01/14/n...

 
 
 
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  1. oh dear god Langer's is going to be a mad house.

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    1. re: ns1

      This is what Langer's posted about National Pastrami Day
      "Langer’s Delicatessen-Restaurant will be the focal point for the celebration of National Pastrami Day, coming this Tuesday, January 14, 2014, at the legendary 7th and Alvarado location.

      Home to the “world’s best pastrami” as acknowledged by fans, food connoisseurs, and critics alike, Langer’s welcomes National Pastrami Day each year with enthusiasm and pride. “We have a lot of fun with it every year,” says owner Norm Langer, “And it turns out that our customers love it too.”

      Langer’s Deli will be open 8AM-4PM on Tuesday, January 14, for National Pastrami Day. Validated 90-minute parking is available at 7th and Westlake, and Langer’s will have plenty of pastrami on hand for the event to handle even the biggest orders. “We’ve served more than six million pounds of pastrami since 1947,” reveals Norm Langer, “so we’ll be ready for anything.”

      Come have fun and enjoy the world’s best pastrami this Tuesday with your friends and family at Langer’s Deli."

      Let the hand carving begin….

      1. re: wienermobile

        damn Pavlov - my mouth started watering.

    2. This may start a shit storm. Big langers fan but the pastrami at greenblatts is even better. Juicier. Mellow flavor. Fatty. Not too salty. Give a shot instead of driving to westlake.

      Of course, i'm always delighted to at Langers too...but i don't think their meat is the best anymore.

      I'm also well on the side of Carnegie vs katzs.

      1. The first photo is Langer's. The second is Katz's.

         
         
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        1. re: wienermobile

          Look at how terribad that bread looks in the Katz photo. It tastes as good as it looks.

          1. re: ns1

            the way the new yorkers kiss katz' ass is even more excessive that our supplication towards langers...was good, but somewhat dry, bread bad -- about 1/4 the size of the one at carnegie and nowhere near as juicy and delicious.

            at least langers fucking delivers the goods!

            1. re: ns1

              Look how much more pastrami you get at Katz. Since we are talking...pastrami.

              1. re: Porthos

                Here's a real Katz's pastrami photo from yelp:

                 
                1. re: Porthos

                  I've never had Katz pastrami, but sometimes too much meat throws the ratio of rye to pastrami off for me. Langer's has a good ratio (the golden ratio?) as far as I am concerned. But YMMV.

                  1. re: Servorg

                    I agree. A Carnegie sandwich is oversized and violates the meat to bread ratio.

                    A Katz's pastrami sandwich, mediocre rye and all, is a delicious decadent pile of pastrami.

                    Count me in the Katz's camp (small camp in this neck of the woods) for pastrami alone. Langer's camp for overall sandwich.

                    1. re: Porthos

                      shit you nearly get more swiss on a carnegie pastrami and swiss than you do get pastrami at katz's or langers.

                      some girls say size matters.

                      1. re: jessejames

                        Don't care about swiss, or coleslaw or whatnot on my pastrami sandwich. Just pastrami, bread, and mustard. In that order.

                      2. re: Porthos

                        A photo of a Carnegie Deli Sandwich.

                         
                         
                          1. re: wienermobile

                            But the thing with Carnegie is that it's part of the schtick. No NYC local thinks that's a reasonable expectation for a sandwich.

                            Mr Taster

                            1. re: Mr Taster

                              you speak for the long lines out front every day? i beg to differ.

                              1. re: jessejames

                                I didn't say they don't run a profitable business. I said that it's part of their schtick- it's made them famous. Tourists (and some locals) now have that expectation when they go to that specific restaurant, and it's helped to promote this idea of the NYC deli sandwich as being this wild behemoth monstrosity. But there are many, many more Jewish delis in NYC (Katz's, 2nd Ave, etc.) that do not pile up such absurd amounts of meat on their bread.

                                It's PR schtick, pure and simple-- and it works.

                                Mr Taster

                                  1. re: jessejames

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                                  2. re: Mr Taster

                                    Calling out my own contradiction. I first claimed:

                                    "No NYC local thinks that's a reasonable expectation for a sandwich."

                                    and then saying:

                                    "Tourists (and some locals) now have that expectation when they go to that specific restaurant..."

                                    My writing was sloppy-- I wrote in absolutes, and that always(!) gets you in trouble.

                                    What I meant to say was that Carnegie has, in large part, played into this absurd expectation for tourists of mile-high deli sandwiches (they've got a Carnegie in Vegas, fehcrisssakes...) and while locals know that this isn't the reality across the city, some still go there for nostalgia. (I know a couple of expat NYC oldies in LA that reminisce fondly about Carnegie.) Midwestern tourists, their gentile palates weaned on Schlotzsky's and bad Schnuck's supermarket pastrami, are likely to think Carnegie is "the best pastrami ever!", and by comparison they can't be faulted for coming to this conclusion. I grew up in NJ and my sis now lives in NYC, but she avoids Carnegie like the plague. When our Missouri relatives visit NYC, however, it's the first place they want to go. That, and Puglia (or, as they call it, "Puglia's")

                                    Mr Taster

                                    1. re: Mr Taster

                                      I think this is worth a post on the Manhattan board.

                                      Carnegie or Katz's, and why?

                                      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/931319

                                      Mr Taster

                        1. re: Porthos

                          porthos, the katz bread is not only bad, it is much smaller surface area wise than the large slabs of crusty rye at langers...ie langers may appear thinner but i don't think it's less...id say a bit more or about the same

                          1. re: jessejames

                            It is thinner and much less pastrami in my experience. But I haven't had both in over 5 years so maybe portion sizes have shrunk.

                            1. re: Porthos

                              try carnegie

                              ps, im so ready for lunch now and only 1120

                              1. re: jessejames

                                We've discussed this. I don't like Carnegie. It's oversized and dry. :)

                                1. re: Porthos

                                  funny i thought katzs was puny and dry...anyways...glad you enjoy what you do and me too.

                                  1. re: jessejames

                                    Did you tip the slicer and order at the counter?

                                    Can't imagine Katz's being dry. Even the lean is juicy. The regular with all the fat keeps me full for 12-16 hours. I have to be careful when meal planning to account for it.

                                    Agree. To each his/her own.

                                    1. re: Porthos

                                      yes...i took all the suggestions from the NYC hounds and did just that...don't get me wrong, i ate the whole thing gladly.

                                      full? yes with the hotdog which i liked even better...but did i feel like the beached anaconda that swallowed a cow after carnegie? no.

                                      1. re: Porthos

                                        What people don't get is that you need to tip BEFORE you order.

                            2. re: Porthos

                              I'm talking pastrami sandwiches. I will say my Katz sandwich did not look nearly as big as the one weinermobile posted, and yes I did tip when I was standing in line while getting a sampler. Clearly YMMV.

                              All I gotta say is, next time I'm going to Carnegie's, not Katz.

                              1. re: ns1

                                Carnegie isn't even in the discussion when talking pastrami. Guess you can come back and say NYC has no good pastrami along with their no good pizza after that. ;-)

                                Give 2nd Avenue and Pastrami Queen a try if you want to do a true pastrami tasting.

                                1. re: Porthos

                                  Many others disagree with your opinion re: Carnegie. I mean, it can't possibly be more of a letdown than Katz. It's that bread man.

                                  I bought a pastrami sandwich, not a plate of pastrami. A sandwich is defined by all it's components, and that bread is terribad.

                                  1. re: ns1

                                    I'll be here saying "I told you so" ;-)

                                  2. re: Porthos

                                    carnegie is the best of them all, langers included. they blow the competition out of the water for this hound.

                                    1. re: Porthos

                                      ive been to second avenue, not pastrami queen...i'd love to try it when im in nyc next tho

                                      for me:

                                      carnegie
                                      langers/greenblatts

                                      a lap back: the field.

                                2. re: ns1

                                  Katz's bread looks horrible.

                                  1. re: JAB

                                    It is. It's dry, served straight from a plastic bag. But the pastrami itself is seasoned ever so slightly better than Langer's.

                                    See my comparison report from 2005.

                                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/65903

                                    Mr Taster

                                    1. re: JAB

                                      It is. Some people bring their own. But the pastrami is beyond...

                                  2. re: wienermobile

                                    well ill be celebrating tomorrow - good heads up!

                                  3. Chow.com list of best pastrami in Los Angeles

                                    The Hat [San Gabriel Valley]
                                    2300 S. Atlantic Boulevard, Monterey Park
                                    323-721-3656
                                    (Among other locations)

                                    Langer’s Deli [MacArthur Park]
                                    704 S. Alvarado Street, Los Angeles
                                    213-483-8050

                                    Plan Check Kitchen + Bar [Sawtelle Corridor]
                                    1800 Sawtelle Boulevard, Los Angeles
                                    310-288-6500

                                    Jeff’s Gourmet Kosher Sausage Factory [Westside – Inland]
                                    8930 W. Pico Boulevard, Los Angeles
                                    310-858-8590

                                    Bay Cities Italian Deli & Bakery [Westside – Inland]
                                    1517 Lincoln Boulevard, Santa Monica
                                    310-395-8279

                                    http://www.chow.com/food-news/133891/...

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                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                      langers aside, what a load of shit. bay cities deli again? go away!

                                      1. re: jessejames

                                        I may as well jump in here before nosh does and say Label's Table (g). Certainly for price it beats the living beejezus out of all the other spots...

                                        See photo here: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...

                                        1. re: Servorg

                                          but the pastrami not as strong as the brisket there.

                                          i love it tho -- and yes 2 large sandwiches for the price of one smaller in many other spots.

                                    2. OK, why has nobody called out that disgusting pastrami sandwich photo on the eatocracy site? Good lord. My throat gets dry just looking at the pic.

                                      Mr Taster

                                       
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                                      1. re: Mr Taster

                                        wtf is that? looks like a deli platter from my workplace.

                                      2. Togo’s will give away up to 10,000 pastrami sandwiches tomorrow (1/14/14) on National Pastrami Day.

                                        http://www.sacbee.com/2014/01/09/6058...

                                        1. Here is a video from about Langer's National Pastrami Day last year and some of their secrets.
                                          http://jn1.tv/video/news?media_id=93258

                                          1. OK, its National Pastrami Day in the United States.
                                            Just curious how much a sandwich goes for at Langers? I've had Katz, which is not bad, but at what cost? Throw in fries and a coke and you're right around the $180 mark...

                                            'Round our parts, any day can be a Montreal Smoked Meat day at Schwartz's...
                                            Sandwich @ $6.40CDN (~$5.89USD)
                                            {;-/)

                                             
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                                            1. re: porker

                                              Would you care to explain the difference between Montreal smoked meat and pastrami? Is it brisket? For $6 a sandwich, I'm not sure how it could be. Brisket is expensive!

                                              Mr Taster

                                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                                Montreal Smoked Meat and pastrami are very similar. They both start out as brisket.
                                                MSM is usually the whole brisket, pastrami usually only a part of the brisket.
                                                Both are cured (MSM is traditionally a dry cure, but thats splitting hairs).
                                                Both are rubbed and smoked, but the rub flavorings are different (MSM packs more of a clovey/coriander punch).
                                                Both are steamed and sliced.

                                                I think Katz's sandwich is expensive because of Manhattan rent costs and When Harry Met Sally (a healthy tourist trade can inflate prices).

                                                1. re: porker

                                                  If I'm having Pastrami...I prefer it from the Navel Plate, not Brisket.

                                                  http://katzsdelicatessen.com/What-Goe...

                                                  1. re: fourunder

                                                    I can understand the attraction to the navel, as its all lean.
                                                    I prefer the full packer which has the intramuscular fat which is full of flavor.
                                                    They ask if you want fat or lean at Schwartz's. Most people get "medium" as the lean can be dry.

                                                    I tell the story of an 80 year old, fidora/london-fog-trenchcoat wearing guy walking into Schwartz, sits next to us at the counter and orders a plate of speck.
                                                    I watch in both horror and complete admiration as he eats a plate of Montreal Smoked Fat (its carved from the bnrisket), smacks his lips, pays the bill and walks out.
                                                    On the one hand, it could possibly be the best tasting thing on earth, on the other, you know the health consequences. On the third hand, the guy *was* eighty, likely doing something right....
                                                    When I asked the counter guy about it, he lamented that they used to serve *tons* of it...today, not so much.

                                                     
                                                    1. re: porker

                                                      That is boss re : plate of speck

                                                      1. re: porker

                                                        I'm pretty sure the lingo at katz's is to order *Lean* or *Juicy*, which will result in the latter being very similar to receiving fatty meat like the Point.

                                                        You would get no argument from me about the virtues of the Point opposed to the Flat....When ordering Corned Beef, I'm like *Clemenza*....leave the Flat, take the Point.

                                                2. re: porker

                                                  Katz and Langers are in the same ballpark - $40 lunch for 2.

                                                    1. re: JAB

                                                      Yeah, nobody makes a fuss over the mustard in Montreal.

                                                    2. re: porker

                                                      Hot Pastrami on rye at Langer's $13.50

                                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                                        Hot Pastrami on rye at Katz's $16.95 (as per their website).

                                                        Yikes, maybe for National Pastrami Day, start making your own Montreal Smoked Meat!
                                                        Hehe.
                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/553591

                                                        1. re: porker

                                                          you try the MSM at the spot on sepulveda in redondo?

                                                          1. re: jessejames

                                                            No, but I hope to try the MSM at Manhattan's Mile End.

                                                            I haven't been to California since '98...

                                                            1. re: porker

                                                              Montreal Smoked Brisket on Rye at Redondo Beach Cafe $13.99
                                                              http://redondobeachcafe.com/index.htm

                                                               
                                                                1. re: wienermobile

                                                                  They will also sell you the whole 8-10 pound smoked Montreal brisket at The Redondo Beach Cafe.

                                                                   
                                                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                                                    wiener-you really know how to get the hounds' juices flowing for national pastrami day--NPD.

                                                                    1. re: jessejames

                                                                      I have never tried the Redondo Beach Cafe or Montreal Smoked meats myself. The reviews on Yelp are 3.5 and not glowing. I will have to give it a try myself.

                                                                  2. re: wienermobile

                                                                    Nice looking sammy.
                                                                    I like the bottle of Canadian and Moosecock in the background for effect.

                                                        2. Perhaps someone should get the bread from Langer's, someone the pastrami from Katz's, and we can meet in Kansas City?

                                                          1. Thanks for the heads up! Now I know exactly what places to avoid tomorrow......

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                                                            1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                              well i finally tried the top round today --- that is really good stuff. i got beef on weck, extra meat, whiz, atomic horseradish...i could have eaten 2...

                                                              1. re: jessejames

                                                                "i could have eaten 2"

                                                                I think I just came up with the epitaph for my headstone...

                                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                                  or "i split a second with my brother"

                                                                2. re: jessejames

                                                                  I just had to link a trip report to this thread from my dearly departed brother hound, Chino Wayne. His paean to the pastrami at Carnegie Deli in Vegas: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9469... (among other delights that he and Mrs. Chino Wayne enjoyed while they sojourned there).

                                                              2. My fave is Langer's. However, I had a really good hot pastrami sandwich from Johnnie's on Adam's. The was ok...it held together. But, the meat was delicious.

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                                                                1. re: Kalivs

                                                                  i like johnnies on adams too -- a different sort of pastrami but oh with that dip juice poured on, hits the spot...i prefer a drive thru to a drive by...

                                                                  1. re: jessejames

                                                                    It's pretty tame now. I heard it was much livelier a few decades ago. I'm more worried about the grime, but I remind myself I'm boosting my immune system by exposing it new and old germs!

                                                                2. Sorry Umamicatessen's Pastrami is gone. That was darn good stuff. Cut nearly 1/3-inch thick, the smoky, succulent pastrami was moist and really tasty. The bread was terrible though.

                                                                   
                                                                   
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                                                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                                                    While I was just now missing Umamicatessen's Pastrami just heard great news!
                                                                    "Micah Wexler, who ran The Cure at Umamicatessen is opening a new-style old-fashioned Jewish deli at the Grand Central Market.
                                                                    Called simply Wexler's Deli, it's to feature the full run of smoked fish and cured meats -- salmon and sturgeon, pastrami and corned beef -- as well as freshly baked breads and bagels to serve them on.
                                                                    "Wexler’s Deli isn't about reinventing the deli, it's about bringing it back to its roots," Wexler said. "I grew up eating at delis, they're a place of community and tradition. We take the time to use old-school recipes and techniques to craft delicious deli food. Curing, brining, smoking, pickling are things that take patience and a trained hand. Wexler’s Deli pays its respects to the traditions of the past but presents itself with an L.A. soul."

                                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                                      Great! I could eat pastrami hotdogs and smoked fish every day

                                                                        1. re: wienermobile

                                                                          But will this guy be selling true belly lox? That will show whether or not this guy has true dedication to the old ways of deli and appetizing.

                                                                          Mr Taster

                                                                          1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                            Where in LA can you find belly lox now?

                                                                              1. re: jessejames

                                                                                And Lenny's, but I tried it and it was terrible. Barney Greengrass is really the only one in Los Angeles that tastes like it should. I pacify myself with the lox they make at Fairfax Fishery-- it has the pretty zebra striping, but doesn't have the silkines or saltiness that the good stuff has. Having said that, I still buy it because it's a helluva lot better than anything else I've found in town (other than BG).

                                                                                Mr Taster

                                                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                              Let's assume that his belly lox will measure up to your standard. How often will you eat it?

                                                                        2. When Superba Food & Bread opens on Lincoln in Venice next month they will offer contemporary versions of classic childhood sandwiches like pastrami and Swiss cheese beefed up with farmers market veggies and grains on their in house made rye.
                                                                          http://superbafoodandbread.com

                                                                          1. At Brent's Deli for National Pastrami Day Take a photo of pastrami and get a $10 gift card:

                                                                            Tuesday, Jan. 14 is National Pastrami Sandwich Day — and we’re celebrating it with a gift card giveaway!

                                                                            Here’s how it works:

                                                                            Dine in at our Northridge or Westlake Village location during our hours of operation on Tuesday, Jan. 14.
                                                                            Order any sandwich that includes pastrami*.
                                                                            Take a photo of your sandwich; upload it to Facebook, Twitter or Instagram; and use the hashtag #brentsdeli in the caption.
                                                                            At checkout, show the cashier the uploaded photo and you’ll receive a complimentary $10 gift card!
                                                                            The most creative photo will win an additional $50 Brent’s Deli gift card, to be determined after Jan. 14.

                                                                             
                                                                            1. Couldn't get to Langer's or Brent's today for National Pastrami Day 2014 but I did get to Bay Cities Santa Monica and had their Hot Pastrami Sandwich on Italian bread. Not bad, not bad at all.

                                                                               
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                                                                              1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                What was the pastrami like? Thin cut or thin? Against or along the bias? Fatty or lean? Spiced or bland? TIA.

                                                                                1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                  It's thin cut but not paper thin like at The Hat. Not Fatty like at The Hat. Not too spicy but not too bland either. On their bread with the works it's a pretty good sandwich. Generous amount. You can order it hot or cold.

                                                                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                    Thanks, sounds good, may have to give them a try.

                                                                                2. re: wienermobile

                                                                                  Nice! Not too salty? The problem I have with most places that do the thin kind is that they're way to salty. The Philly's Best version falls into that camp.

                                                                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                    Damn, that bread does look good.

                                                                                  2. I did my part... Langer's takeout - treated the office to it.

                                                                                     
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                                                                                    1. re: J.L.

                                                                                      How busy was it on a major holiday like National Pastrami Day?

                                                                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                        I dunno - I'll ask the intern who went & waited & picked it up for the office.

                                                                                        1. re: J.L.

                                                                                          for future reference...

                                                                                          how much pastrami did you get per person? was it enough, too much?

                                                                                          1. re: ns1

                                                                                            Before J.L. answers.....

                                                                                            If for a meal, one sandwich per person. Anything less would be wrong.

                                                                                            If to compliment other food, than a half sandwich per person.

                                                                                            1. re: fourunder

                                                                                              i presumed he bought pastrami per pound, and russian dressing/cole slaw/bread on the side.

                                                                                              I guess JL will have to clarify.

                                                                                            2. re: ns1

                                                                                              My staff conducted a survey in the office - most people wanted just 1 sandwich, some wanted 2. Bought the sides by the pound.

                                                                                              1. re: J.L.

                                                                                                most people wanted just 1 sandwich, some wanted 2
                                                                                                =================
                                                                                                How many did *you* want? ;-)

                                                                                                Good man getting the office Langers!

                                                                                                1. re: Porthos

                                                                                                  Hey, you gotta treat your people right!

                                                                                                  It helps office morale as well. Productivity went down a bit, as several of my employees had food coma for the remainder of the afternoon, but I think they appreciated it nonetheless :-)

                                                                                            1. re: J.L.

                                                                                              You're a good man, Charlie Brown.

                                                                                            2. Went to Langer's yesterday. Said hi to Norm, and wolfed down a pastrami, chopped liver, and swiss with yellow mustard. That's how I roll!

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                                                                                              1. re: orythedog

                                                                                                "yellow mustard" say it aint' so. I can excuse the other accoutrements. ;>)

                                                                                              2. I was the one alone upstairs at Greenblatt's at lunchtime, hunkered over my phone and listening to silly industry talk at the other tables.

                                                                                                The sandwich was terrific, and I discovered my new favorite way to order: hot, plain, with slaw and dressing on the side and deli mustard at hand. This allowed me to experience some bites that just focused on the meat, some with dollops of this, that, and/or the other thing.

                                                                                                Then I took a nap.

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                                                                                                1. re: jesstifer

                                                                                                  As the closest deli of note to my home, I may need to get a sandwich to go just for an updated comparison. It's closing in on two decades since I tried it last.

                                                                                                  Mr Taster

                                                                                                  1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                                                    It's quite good. It doesn't have the feel of a classic deli, but judged by the food alone Greenblatt's is solid. I do not understand anyone claiming that it beats Langer's, though. Puhleez.

                                                                                                2. A day late. Tommy Pastrami New York Delicatessen in Santa Ana (assuming to distinguish it from the other Tommy Pastramis).

                                                                                                  Pastrami and corned beef both "lite" meaning less meat than the original overstuffed.

                                                                                                  Surprisingly good. Tender, juicy, rye bread is soft but with a nice crust. Not much difference between the corned beef and pastrami flavorwise. Not too fatty. Not overly salty. Again, surprisingly good. Would return for lunch for sure.

                                                                                                   
                                                                                                  1. So sad. Taking down all the Pastrami Day decorations and lights to put away until next year. Happy Pastrami Day January 14, 2015.

                                                                                                    4 Replies
                                                                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                      We leave the decorations up for another 6 days until Little Pastrami.

                                                                                                      1. re: porker

                                                                                                        And ours don't even start to go up for another week or two in anticipation of Chinese Pastrami Day.
                                                                                                        "Gong Hay Speck Choy!"

                                                                                                          1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                            Perhaps you jest, but it is on menus in Montreal using Pastrami's cousin Montreal Smoked Meat.

                                                                                                            Schwartz is Montreal's version of Manhattan's Katz, an iconic pilgrimage destination for Montreal Smoked Meat.

                                                                                                            There are other smoked meat purveyors but everything is compared to Schwartz.
                                                                                                            One popular place is called Dunn's Famous. They've had their ups and downs, and franchised in a few Canadian cities (their detractors maintain that their smoked meat is mass produced *gasp*).

                                                                                                            Anyway, they do a few things with their smoked meat including adding it to poutine, egg rolls, and nachos;
                                                                                                            http://dunnsfamous.com/sites/dunnsfam...

                                                                                                            and yes, fried rice (at bottom of page here
                                                                                                            )http://dunnsfamous.com/sites/dunnsfam...

                                                                                                    2. Brent's wonderful world of pastrami: