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Venice restaurant picks?

I'm looking for some good (not too touristy) recommendations for Venice. We have 2 dinners and 2-3 lunches.

So far I'm looking at:
Bentigodi di Chef Domenico (dinner)
Riviera (dinner)
Gato Nero (lunch)

Good picks? Any other recommendations? We are foodies (aren't we all on Chow, lol) and would love "scenic" sots (ie on the canal or coast) as well but don't want to just settle for a tourist trap. No set budget either just want good, authentic meals as representative of the region as possible (ie, again, no tourist traps if possible).

TIA!!

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  1. Oh - travelling in september (5-7). Another consideration is this is during the film festival - part of the reason I'm doing my planning early, lol.

    1. OK - so from reading more on here I'm now looking at

      Gato Nero (lunch)

      Il Ridotto (dinner)
      L'Anice Stellato (dinner)

      Any other must dos?

      1. Getting over to Gatto Nero, on Burano, may or may not be worth the time. With your short visit I think you will find plenty of options on Venice itself.

        Or for a really fantastic view your could try Figlie delle Stelle on Giudecca. (a very short vap ride) I think their food is Pugliese so you may not want it but the view gorgeous and the food was great in my one visit.

        1. One can't escape tourists at most eating place in Venice. Recommendations on this board rarely are ‘tourist traps”. As for your choices of the moment: L'Anice Stellato has very good food, a few canal side tables and not over-priced for Venice. Haven't been to Gatto Nero in over 10 years, but I doubt it has change much. Fine if one must eat in Burano. And eaten at Riviera since it change ownership a few years ago. Have not eaten at Il Ridotto.
          When it comes to eating places, there are no 'must dos' in Venice. My first choice would be one of the top seafood trattorie such as Antiche Carampane (outside tables but not on a canal), Alle Testiere or Boccadoro (outside table on a small quiet campo). For a menu that includes some meat/poultry, Vini da Gigio, Osteria San Marco, Al Paradiso, L’Orto dei Mori (a few canal side tables), Al Covo. Less expensive are Alla Vedova, Ai Promessi Sposi. For outside canal side seating, Bancogiro is good. For a simple lunch, would depends on where you are sightseeing. Without doubt, the Venice film festival draws a throng of additional visitors. But it is not necessary to plan now as restaurants don’t bother with reservations this far in advance.

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          1. re: PBSF

            I've read some of your posts on Venice restaurants and realize it's not the best foodie city in Italy but I'll be there on the occasion of my husband's 70th birthday and wanted something special. Cipriani Hotel's new restaurant, while in a beautiful location, seems too over-the-top expensive, gourmet, but what would you recommend for that special occasion? Just go with one of the spots you mention above?

            1. re: loriw1a

              Venice is not strong on high-end dining. Except for a few exceptions: Da Fiore, Da Ivo, Caffe Quadri, Harrys Bar, it is pretty much the fancy hotel restaurants with the great view from their terrace. The couple times that we were guests at Da Pisis in the Hotel Bauer, the Cipriani (before Oro), Da Ivo, we enjoyed them. I'll admit that if we were paying, we would not to. For a big celebration and budget is not tight and one doesn't mind the doting tuxedo service, why not the Cipriani. The online menu is not traditional but very enticing. I imagine a three course dinner with a very modest wine will be about twice the cost of an excellent seafood trattoria such as Antiche Carampane. And they pick you up and deliver you back to San Marco in style. It really comes down to what you want.

              1. re: PBSF

                Right, I understand. Thanks for your thoughts. Do any of the excellent trattorias you favor offer canal-side dining? Or is there one restaurant that has that sort of view or setting that you like?

                1. re: loriw1a

                  Because we so spend a lot of time in Venice, canal view is not important for us. And when we have visitors who wants a Grand Canal view, choices are luxury hotel restaurants. I haven't eat either Da Pisis or the Cipriani since their recent chef change. If budget is a consideration, we take them to one of the osterie in Cannairegio that has tables on a side canal such as Antica Mola, da Rioba and even the zany Paradiso Perduti. Below are links to couple of earlier posts on the subject of celebratory meal in Venice. It is still up to date as nothing much has changed in the past year, just a few more luxury hotels along the Grand Canal.
                  Http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/913524
                  Http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/914512

                  1. re: PBSF

                    Thanks so much. You've been very helpful!

                    1. re: PBSF

                      How do you think Al Covo would stack up for this occasion? If this was my visit to Venice, I would favor a more intimate place serving Venetian specialties over a big international hotel restaurant.

                      All of Venice ia a view. Italian restaurants of quality only rarely feature any sort of a view - if a very good meal is a priority, the table will normally not have a picture postcard outlook.

                      1. re: jen kalb

                        If a view and/or table next to a canal is not important, Al Covo would be an excellent choice. They do have few tables on their 'min' campo. We recommend it to many visiting friends if they want very good mostly traditional food and excellent professional service. It is very comfortable and one always felt well taken care, more toward lively than intimate. It is as a reliable restaurant as there is in Venice.
                        For many visitors, including some of our friends, it is difficult to separate them from the Grand Canal view. Sometime we benefit as their guests. We would not have gone to Da Pisis, Monaco or the Cipriani on our own. The food at Da Pisis and the Cipriani couple years ago was very good. Both have changed chefs recently and the Cipriani has gone 'creative' leaving the more traditional food to the less expensive Cip's Club which has the better view to San Marco. It just matter if one wants to spend 300 euros and more for two for a meal of that calibre. Besides, it takes a certain mood and attention span to deal with the ambience and that mode of service.

                        1. re: PBSF

                          I'm curious what you thought of the restaurant recommendations in New York Times' 36 Hours in Venice feature in this Sunday's paper. Here's an excerpt:

                          For lunch, follow the lead of locals congregating outside bacari, traditional Venetian bars specializing in hors-d’oeuvre-size snacks called cicchetti. The alleys behind the Rialto Market are packed with bacari, so start there at Osteria Alla Ciurma, a wood-paneled spot where everything from meatballs to stuffed zucchini flowers is thrown into the fryer. Around the corner at All’Arco, pair pesce-crudo-topped toasts with an ombra, a tiny goblet of wine. Then continue to Cantina do Spade for fantastic fried calamari and crab claws beneath dark timbered ceilings. Finish the ambulatory meal at Osteria Bancogiro, where you can nibble on black polenta topped with baccalà mantecato — the whipped cod spread is a local specialty — at a perch overlooking the adjacent piazza.

                          Cannaregio Chow | 8 p.m.

                          Whet your appetite with a spritz and some cicchetti at Al Timon, a canalside bacaro in Cannaregio where regulars spill out along the sidewalk nightly. Then settle in for a seafood-centric dinner at Anice Stellato, a rustic osteria nearby. Most tables order the frittura mista — a tangle of fried squid, whole shrimp, small fish and vegetables (19 euros) — but don’t skip the starters, like stuffed calamari in a rich tomato sauce with grilled polenta (11 euros).

                          1. re: loriw1a

                            New York Times travel articles rarely reveal any secrets in terms of food. It is basically a rehash. Except for CoVino which I have not been, every places you mentioned and in the article has been been mentioned on many previous posts on this board. Eating cicchetti in bacari is a Venetian ritual. There are many bacari scattered around the city and also front bars in many osterie, trattorie and restaurants serve them. Every Venetian has his or her favorites. The ones around the Rialto market are some of the oldest and most atmospheric. Some are popular around midday, others such as Bancogiro in late afternoon.
                            None of the places they mentioned fits into your celebratory criteria.

                            1. re: PBSF

                              Are you as knowledgeable about Rome restaurants as you are about those in Venice? If so, might I ask you a particular question?

                              1. re: loriw1a

                                Sorry, definitely not; I've only been a casual visitor to Rome.

            2. PBSF has given good recommendations. I would add to his list Fiachetteria Toscana, expensive and despite the name has the Venetian cuisine. I was at Gatte Nero two years ago. The food is fine. L'Anice Stellato is outstanding, yet very popular. Unless you will be traveling in the dead of winter outside Christmas and Carneval, make your reservations early. Last Easter Week it was impossible to get a reservation there, as well as at Al Covo, my favorite fine dining restauarant.