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Does any place exist where you can smoke a cigar and have a cocktail?

A nice bite of food wouldnt hurt but not critical

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  1. I'll be pleased to hear the results if such a place still exists

      1. re: Raffles

        Raffles - that's weird, that's the same name as the place I go

      2. Hudson Bar & Books, Lexington Bar & Books, and Beekman Bar & Books.


        1. I think 'Patroon' on East 46 off Third might suit you.

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          1. re: Phil Ogelos

            Does NYC allow smoking in a restaurant at all? I cannot believe so....and besides, Patroon occupies the last of Christ Cella's homes and it is too painful for me to be in there.

            1. re: hazelhurst

              I did some digging and note that they HAD a cigar bar upstairs. Still there?

              maybe I can overcome my sense of grief and relive the 1960s...

              1. re: hazelhurst

                I confess it's been a while since I've been inside the place (and I sympathise utterly with your nostalgia for Christ Cella), but I seem to recall that a number of places -including this one- were grandfathered in as accepting indoor smoking through some classic legal contortion that NYC specialises in.

                (Interestingly, to me, is that it's hard to find a bar in Queens where people *aren't* smoking up a storm inside; I cover my pointy-headed righteousness with a hat when I'm in one of those places.)

            2. Certain private clubs, but if I tell you I will have to kill you.