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Feb Trip...Anything new in the 5th?

century81 Jan 6, 2014 11:17 AM

Leaving mid Feb to Paris for 10 days.
Renting an apartment in the 5th.

Any good new places to eat in the 5th or surrounding arrondissements?

Much appreciated.


  1. John Talbott Jan 6, 2014 12:50 PM

    My goodness me, lots,
    7.1 Dans Les Landes' new menu
    6.5 Au Bon Coin (thanks to Parnassien)
    6.3 Les Degres
    5.5 Kokoro and Aux Verres
    5.3 Bar A Huitres RG
    Christophe, great as always.
    And much more. Do a bit of searching.

    1. mangeur Jan 6, 2014 01:00 PM

      New since when, century 81?

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      1. re: mangeur
        century81 Jan 6, 2014 01:02 PM

        Yes, apologies.....Been about a year since I was back.

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        Nancy S. Jan 6, 2014 05:20 PM

        Not new but fabulous-- pastries at Carl Marletti. I especially love his chocolate religieuse and lemon tart.

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        1. re: Nancy S.
          century81 Jan 7, 2014 07:58 AM

          You had me at Religieuse.

          Booked two so far....Au Bon Coin and Frenchie (not in the 5th, I know).

        2. Parnassien Jan 7, 2014 11:48 AM

          You'll find that, foodwise, not much has changed in the 5th in the last year. Dominated by students and tourists, it's an arrondissement with a preserved-in-aspic quality that seems to no longer appeal to up-and-coming chefs. For those, you gotta make forays into the 9th (SoPi), 10th (Faubourg St Denis), and 11th (Oberkampf/ République) and 11th/12th (Faubourg St Antoine).

          I'd also look to the parts of the 13th and 14th in easy walking, biking or bus distance from the 5th for some foodie exploring. Le Cornichon on the rue Gassendi in the 14th is superb (and so much better than over-hyped Frenchie).

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          1. re: Parnassien
            century81 Jan 7, 2014 11:53 AM

            Great. Ill check out Le Cornichon.

            1. re: century81
              John Talbott Jan 7, 2014 12:12 PM


            2. re: Parnassien
              fishskis Jan 7, 2014 05:27 PM

              Sola is great. One of my favorite restaurants in Paris. And, it's in the 5th.

              1. re: Parnassien
                Ptipois Jan 7, 2014 08:48 PM

                "For those, you gotta make forays into the 9th (SoPi)"

                Please, no "SoPi". Let it remain "la Nouvelle-Athènes" as it always was.

                1. re: Ptipois
                  Parigi Jan 8, 2014 01:19 AM

                  Indeed, I live in the 'hood. And we never say SOPI. Some neighbors and I were just laughing wondering who ever uses the word.
                  Reminds me of the nickname Frisco for San Francisco. Only out-of-towners do so. Locals wince when they hear it.

                  1. re: Ptipois
                    Parnassien Jan 8, 2014 02:05 AM

                    Some of the restos are east and north of la Nouvelle Athènes so the new, hip and more flexible SoPi designation (now very common among us under-40 native Parisiens) probably fits better.

                    But I guess it's how you define la Nouvelle Athènes... for me, the eastern boundary is rue N-D de Lorette. Of course, transplants from, say, Normandy or San Francisco/ Hong Kong might have different definitions or mistake it for all of the quartier Saint-Georges and even include... gasp!... the Pigalle. (Insérer smiley clin d'oeil)

                    1. re: Parnassien
                      Ptipois Jan 8, 2014 02:53 AM

                      Anything. But not SoPi.

                      1. re: Parnassien
                        Parigi Jan 8, 2014 03:03 AM

                        "under-40 native Parisiens)"
                        Sorriest, still no Sopi. Sounds more and more like Frisco now.

                        1. re: Parigi
                          Parnassien Jan 8, 2014 03:37 AM

                          Ok, we'll just call it the "quartier nord Saint-Georges plus a bit of the quartier nord Rochechouart" (QNSt-G+QNR).

                          1. re: Parnassien
                            John Talbott Jan 8, 2014 06:55 AM

                            Hey Parnassien, don't let the ladies heckle you; stick to your under 40 guns.
                            If New York and London can jerkify their neighborhoods, why not Paris? My nabe, formerly known as the "tres vivant" 18th, is now NoMo or SoOu.
                            And so as not to be outdone, across the street, the long abandoned stores (to get back OT) have re-opened as a tapas bar and joint husband/wife or companion/companion jewelry/tattoo shop. That's 18th art.

                            1. re: John Talbott
                              Parigi Jan 8, 2014 09:26 AM

                              Walking home, impossible to avoid what one of you calls SOPI. Why not duck into BVR and get its bespoke eggs and some GdA? hen I hesitated between LTC and LPG. The qch from both places was neck to neck. But recently LTC came out with a version that was fussily groomed in all the wrong way and was less tasty than the straightforward take of LPG. So there.
                              Meanwhile I must say that LBP (1) has better quality seafood, (2) is priced; (3) has much much better service than its forelife PB. Lastly, a delightful rediscovery is the bakery LPM on rHM. It has always had great breads and pastries, and is now serving a lot of delicious Portuguese pastries. Ah, Portuguese pastries. I sure hope it is part of the new trend.
                              Talking about new trend, the hotdog place in Sopi Central is advertising Peking Dog. Je rêve ? All the eateries in Beijing that advertise dog on their restaurant sign mean only one thing. You think this new guy on the oh-so-hip Martyrs block means business ?

                              1. re: Parigi
                                Delucacheesemonger Jan 8, 2014 09:29 AM


                                1. re: Parigi
                                  John Talbott Jan 8, 2014 09:52 AM

                                  Hey Parigi, did you take lessons from my grand-kids?

                                  1. re: John Talbott
                                    Parigi Jan 8, 2014 10:07 AM

                                    I don't take branchitude lessons from 15 year old hipsters. They take branchitude lessons from moi.

                                  2. re: Parigi
                                    mangeur Jan 8, 2014 12:23 PM

                                    Months ago, Parnassien tried to warn me off from some of the uber-hip rooms, suggesting culture clashes guaranteed to be terrifying to someone my age. But nothing he said made my eyes pop as much as this post. No, you don't need any help in branchitude.

                                    1. re: mangeur
                                      John Talbott Jan 8, 2014 12:25 PM

                                      Lost the point of this thread.

                                      1. re: John Talbott
                                        mangeur Jan 8, 2014 12:43 PM

                                        Parigi's parody of insider hipster chatter...

                                        1. re: mangeur
                                          Parnassien Jan 8, 2014 01:17 PM

                                          ... except I've never met any Paris hipsters who talk like that... isn't parody supposed to be based on reality ?

                                          1. re: Parnassien
                                            mangeur Jan 8, 2014 06:31 PM

                                            Could easily be that I misinterpreted her post. I'm sure I couldn't tell Paris hipsterism from San Francisco Mission or Portland Pearl. She's probably none of that.

                                            1. re: Parnassien
                                              Parigi Jan 9, 2014 12:41 AM

                                              "based on reality"
                                              Thank you for catching the point. Indeed no one talks like that, just as no one says SOPI.
                                              Not those who live there. Not any age, any nationality, any origin. When we see it in print, we laugh at the word invented for those-who-aren't, just like Frisco. It identifies you as a geezer outsider. -- This is an editorial you, of course not YOU, Parn.
                                              What we do say - make it flaunt - is Pigalle, especially the young hipsters, whom you allege to know. For them, Pigalle is positive. It is hip epicenter. It is le Divan, la Cigale, La Fourmi.

                                      2. re: Parigi
                                        Parnassien Jan 8, 2014 01:09 PM

                                        Sometimes hipness creates absurdities. And sometimes it results in the right answer. For a previously not well defined betwixt-and-between tract of real estate running through several quartiers, SoPi might seem just a hip label to the more hidebound but it is also a designation that works better than any other description. I suppose that centuries ago that the inhabitants of the quartier Saint Gervais were also peeved when their neighbourhood began to be called le Marais.

                                        For what it's worth, I rarely use acronyms (even though it is a Chowhound tendency to reduce restaurants to their initials). But in the case of SoPi I do because nothing else works to so easily define the geography.

                                      3. re: John Talbott
                                        Ptipois Jan 8, 2014 07:57 PM

                                        "If New York and London can jerkify their neighborhoods, why not Paris?"

                                        Because it's Paris.
                                        Any objection to that?

                                        There is no such thing as SoPi. You've got to decide it. Just because cultural globalization seems cool to some does not mean it's OK.
                                        Or say "Sud Pigalle", that's far nicer.

                                        1. re: Ptipois
                                          Rio Yeti Jan 9, 2014 07:50 AM

                                          I'm under 40, and had never heard of SoPi before this post... it actually took me a while to realize what it meant...

                                          Maybe I'm not so hip after-all...

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                              century81 Jan 9, 2014 08:06 AM

                              I guess I should re-name this thread LOL

                              How bout...

                              'ipsters, acronyms and 'hood nicknames..what does it all mean?

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                              1. re: century81
                                John Talbott Jan 9, 2014 08:28 AM

                                No just return to "What's new in the 5th."

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