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Weight Watchers Foodies -- The Time for Action is Now! January 2014 [Old]

roxlet Jan 1, 2014 05:47 AM

Greetings WW foodies! Happy New Year to you all, and I hope to see less of you in 2014!

Today is our annual New Year's Day Open House, so there is one more challenge ahead of me. Tomorrow is my meeting, and I plan to begin the 2 week program beginning Thursday after my meeting. I feel like it will be just the kick in the butt I need to get losing again.

What about you? Sticking with points+ or trying the new plan for a couple of weeks?

Here's to success in 2014!

  1. roxlet Feb 1, 2014 06:15 AM

    It's February! Let's continue here!

    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/962684

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      ziggylu Jan 30, 2014 07:17 PM

      -1.2 this week.

      Here's to Super Bowl weekend! Like the holidays....just one day, right?

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        valerie Jan 30, 2014 07:48 PM

        Great news! And yes, you are right, it's just one day!

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          roxlet Jan 31, 2014 04:38 AM

          Last year, during the Superbowl with my husband making wings for us and some neighbors, I was able to find some wing sauce made without fat, and I cooked some chicken breast with that. It satisfied the itch with celery sticks and a blue cheese/yogurt dressing. I plan on doing the same on Sunday. Since I have zero interest in football, it should work out for me!

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          valerie Jan 30, 2014 01:57 PM

          After 2 weeks, I'm down 1.6 lbs. Not quite where I was before Thanksgiving. It's amazing how slow it comes off and how fast it goes on!

          This will be a tough weekend. Dinner with friends on Saturday night and Super Bowl party on Sunday....it is what it is.

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            magic Jan 30, 2014 06:12 PM

            You're not alone. Tough weekend for me too. Won't even bother tracking.

            It is what it is.

          2. roxlet Jan 30, 2014 12:01 PM

            Disappointing, though not unexpected weigh-in: up .4. I was at my son's school yesterday for their International Food Festival, and I tried far too many cuisines -- including my own! I think this is probably just water weight (Chinese food with soy sauce among the offerings), but I have to get a grip!

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              magic Jan 30, 2014 01:50 PM

              Definitely water. Also, 0.4 is nothing. It's basically flat. You can lose that during the course of one day, I bet.

            2. saturngrrl Jan 30, 2014 09:47 AM

              I feel a little bit guilty for doing this, but I MADE GOAL THIS WEEK!!!

              It took a year and three weeks, but dammit, I DID IT!

              Now for the hardest part, I think: Maintenance. This "two pounds" window feels extremely tight. Tighter than my pants used to be. But we'll see how it goes. I'm being a bit lax with my points and tracking and all this week, because I'm more afraid of losing than gaining... but I guess we'll see what happens at my next WI and take it from there. If it's disastrous, I vow to go back to vigilance and counting and tracking. I refuse to have to do this whole thing all over again. I really want to keep it off. I just boxed/bagged up a massive amount of too-big clothes and spent an inordinate amount of money on new-size clothes that I LOVE, so there ya go.

              Anyway, I do intend to stick around on this thread, because I love all the ideas and recipes and inspiration (and, yes, accountability!) I've found here. So, I hope that's cool.

              :-)

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                magic Jan 30, 2014 09:53 AM

                Haha, nice!!!!!

                You happy?

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                  saturngrrl Jan 30, 2014 09:55 AM

                  THRILLED. I never really believed I could get down to WW's goal range. Of course, my goal weight is one pound below the top of my range, but still... LOL!

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                    magic Jan 30, 2014 10:24 AM

                    Outstanding. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

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                  juliejulez Jan 30, 2014 09:55 AM

                  Congrats! I actually hit my goal weight almost a year ago. I did pretty well for most of the year, I did lose 2 more lbs after that when I was figuring out what I should be eating.

                  But then a stressful new job in the fall and the holidays hit, and I've gained about 7... so 5 above goal. I did stop tracking during the time I gained, so I realized I wasn't ready to stop tracking. I'm still struggling with it to be honest, but it's getting better... haven't gained any more, but I want to lose those extra I gained.

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                    magic Jan 30, 2014 10:23 AM

                    You will. You know you can.

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                    valerie Jan 30, 2014 10:26 AM

                    That's great! Congratulations!

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                      ziggylu Jan 30, 2014 10:27 AM

                      Can't "like" your post enough saturngrri! we all know how much dedication is involved in making goal and you should be celebrating from the mountaintops!

                      Enjoy your new wardrobe and anything else you reward yourself with, you've earned it!

                      I hope you will stick around on these threads as inspiration and motivation for all fo us. From your posts it's clear you've really focused successfully on a new lifestyle and understand the challenges that can come with devloping new habit and thought processes. Personally, I can say I've gained a lot from your participation.

                      Congrats again!

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                        rabaja Jan 30, 2014 11:33 AM

                        Congrats! I bet you feel great, you deserve to as well.

                        I hope you continue to post here. I think everyone's contribution here is inspiring. While some are looking at a longer road towards weight loss and others have ten to twenty pounds to lose(or less), we all have a common goal and can benefit from the support here.

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                          roxlet Jan 30, 2014 12:05 PM

                          Yay for you! How wonderful. Goal is my, er, goal! :)

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                            roxlet Jan 30, 2014 12:07 PM

                            And everyone in my group who has made goal has stressed the importance of continuing to attend meetings and track. There are some sorry tales of weight lost and then regained.

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                            ziggylu Jan 30, 2014 08:47 AM

                            Anyone doing anything tasty and interesting for Super Bowl menus?

                            we're going to our vegan friends house so hopefully things won't be too terribly sinful. I'm trying to think about some new and fun stuff to take. Thinking abotu doing some kind of onion tart perhaps. And maybe trying these sriracha potato chips to go with some awesome vegan spinach I get from a local restaurant: http://ohmyveggies.com/recipe-baked-s...

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                              Kontxesi Jan 29, 2014 05:12 PM

                              Down 2.6! I haven't been down that much since August.

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                                magic Jan 29, 2014 05:18 PM

                                NICE!!!! Big loss!!

                                Build on that momentum.....

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                                  valerie Jan 29, 2014 06:27 PM

                                  Great!!!

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                                    roxlet Jan 29, 2014 07:26 PM

                                    Congrats! That is fabulous.

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                                      ziggylu Jan 30, 2014 07:12 AM

                                      Great news, Kontxesi!

                                    2. rabaja Jan 28, 2014 12:52 PM

                                      Although I am tempting myself with oatmeal raisin cookies, totchos and lamb steaks, I am watching my portion size and tracking, tracking, tracking!
                                      Going to get back on the scale tomorrow and see if my new fitness class is helping any. -for those if you with young kids, I just started doing Stroller Strides. It's an hour long class which you do with your child in a stroller. You run(optional),jump, squat and utilize weights, bands and balls.
                                      I love it and it's given me some focus back. Good group of people and the kids are hysterical. Oh, and crying is allowed. For everyone.

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                                        roxlet Jan 28, 2014 02:33 PM

                                        That sounds perfect!

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                                          rabaja Jan 30, 2014 05:23 AM

                                          It is, and apparently it's offered on various states across the country.
                                          One woman was telling me she started taking classes in Virginia with her first child, and then found a new chapter when they relocated to Northern California. She does it with two kids in a double stroller.
                                          It's entertaining to watch the child minding that goes on during class with the older kids. Great perspective!

                                          I'm down 1.5 pounds. I skipped a week of weighing in, so this took two weeks, but I'm getting more and more on board with this weight loss journey. I'm trying to remember to be kind to myself along the way and focus on my mental happiness more than my pant size.

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                                            ziggylu Jan 30, 2014 07:12 AM

                                            When I was workign part-time and playing lots of tennis, I'd see folks doing the stroller classes at the park adjacent to the tennis club I played at. They always looked to be having a great time. I can barely move myself around, it's gotta be hard work with a stroller and child along!

                                            Congrats on the loss!

                                      2. roxlet Jan 28, 2014 08:59 AM

                                        More WW recipes from Grace Young!
                                        http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/ar...

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                                          Kontxesi Jan 28, 2014 09:09 AM

                                          Mmm, lo mein. There's no way I could stop myself at 3/4-cup, though, unless it was part of a multi-course meal, which I suck at. I still struggle to get my rice and stir-fry done at the same time!

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                                            roxlet Jan 28, 2014 09:46 AM

                                            I hear you!

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                                            valerie Jan 28, 2014 09:12 AM

                                            The Kung Pao shrimp sounds good and it's easy to add more vegetables...thanks!

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                                            Kontxesi Jan 28, 2014 07:51 AM

                                            Not looking forward to tomorrow's weigh-in at ALL. I had a weak moment on Saturday night and made butterscotch blondies.... It was a Cooking Light recipe, but how the heck can flour, sugar, butter, and eggs make anything that isn't terrible for you? I didn't even bother to calculate the points, and have eaten 20 out of 24 squares.

                                            Blargh. At least they tasted good.

                                            1. chowdom Jan 25, 2014 12:25 PM

                                              The following cauliflower recipe just looks to good not to share. If it has already been posted then please disregard.

                                              http://www.purewow.com/entry_detail/r...

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                                                chowdom Jan 25, 2014 02:31 PM

                                                too good

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                                                  pine time Jan 26, 2014 08:48 AM

                                                  Wow--that caulifower looks amazing, thanks for sharing. Question, though: "chile" powder, to me, is roasted, dried, powdered hot pepper, not "chili" as in the soup/stew powder. So, did you really use 2 Tbl of a hot red chile powder?

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                                                    chowdom Jan 26, 2014 02:28 PM

                                                    Pine time I haven't made this yet. I usually follow recipes pretty loosely and didn't even think about the chile powder. I intend to put more of an Indian spice spin on it. I think the concept is simple and brilliant.

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                                                    roxlet Jan 26, 2014 02:37 PM

                                                    My mother used to par-boil an entire cauliflower, then remove from the water and drain. She would then push pieces of mozzarella into any openings between the florets, and then sprinkle with olive oil and seasoned breadcrumbs. The whole thing would go into the oven to bake until the cheese was bubbling.

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                                                      ziggylu Jan 26, 2014 04:06 PM

                                                      oh yum!

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                                                        roxlet Jan 26, 2014 04:58 PM

                                                        Yes, and I never ate it. I hated cauliflower, and am still not a huge fan of it except in certain preparations like Indian food.

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                                                      saturngrrl Jan 30, 2014 08:59 AM

                                                      This has been posted a lot of places, but it's ok to share some more. I actually made it this weekend and I have a few notes to share with the class:

                                                      1) I absolutely LOVED the marinade (I didn't use hot chile powder, I used "chili powder" but I may have also thrown in a pinch of cayenne. I also may have used more curry and cumin than the recipe called for. Regardless of how you adjust the spices to your taste buds, this marinade is WONDERFUL and I used the leftovers as a dip for raw veggies. I also mixed some into a rutabaga mash I had on had and that was fab, too!

                                                      2) It took a LOT longer to cook this to the tenderness I prefer in cauliflower. More than an hour. And the flavor of the marinade was only on the outside parts. No flavor at all inside. So...

                                                      3) I'm going to make it again, but I'm going to "floret" the cauliflower, toss it in the marinade and THEN roast it. More surface area to get coated with the flavor and faster cooking time. I think I will be much happier with it that way - I'll be sure to report back after! :-)

                                                      But all in all, so GLAD to have discovered this recipe, if only for the "dip" byproduct.

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                                                        chowdom Jan 30, 2014 06:41 PM

                                                        Thank you ... congratulations and continued success

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                                                          herby Jan 30, 2014 06:50 PM

                                                          I want to make it too! Stopped by the grocery store tonight and cauliflower was awful but asparagus was amazing and not expensive - go figure!

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                                                          pine time Feb 5, 2014 08:33 AM

                                                          Thanks, saturngrrl...answered my concern about "chile" vs "chili." While the presentation of the whole head looks gorgeous, I like your idea of getting the flavors into the florets.

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                                                        ziggylu Jan 23, 2014 08:10 PM

                                                        -2.2 tonight. I"m really getting used to the constant ups and downs I see! LOL

                                                        My sister is in town so it'll be a family weekend. And my plantar fascitis flared after my run last Sunday...it's feeling better but I"m not sure I'll be running off the family meals this weekend. I"ve been doing a lot of rowing on our erg and yoga daily but I don't burn at the same level I do when I run.

                                                        They are all coming here on Sunday...I"m going to make yogurt marinated chicken, some chard, pilaf and a salad so at least that meal won't be too challenging. We'll see what tomorrow night and Saturday present us with however!

                                                        The weather has been gorgeous in Arizona...I hope everyone else is staying warm and enjoy some warming meals!

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                                                          magic Jan 24, 2014 03:51 AM

                                                          Seems people here are losing some nice weight post-holidays.

                                                          Congrats, wow!!

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                                                            roxlet Jan 24, 2014 04:27 AM

                                                            I think that the erg burns way more calories than running. My son takes a break from squash in the spring (squash is reputed to be the activity that is the healthiest in terms of calorie-burning) and rows crew. With all the erg workouts, he gets even trimmer and more buff by the time crew season is done. On the right side of this page, you'll see that rowing follows squash.
                                                            http://www.squashplayer.co.uk/sp_late...

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                                                              ziggylu Jan 24, 2014 05:46 AM

                                                              Yeah,for sure the erg does for most people. I can't seem to get the same intensity on it. I've been working on my form and have some friends that have given me tips on getting more out of it. As I'm getting fitter that's helping too.

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                                                                roxlet Jan 24, 2014 05:55 AM

                                                                I would love to have access to an erg. I think it would be ok with my knees and would help build up the thigh muscles, which is important. We have an old elliptical that doesn't work at home, and our club has treadmills but no ergs.

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                                                                  ziggylu Jan 24, 2014 07:48 AM

                                                                  This is the one I have. It's a bit more aesthetically pleasing for the home environment than the Concept2 that most crew houses and gyms have...and it can be stored upright if space is an issue. http://www.waterrower.com/

                                                                  In the grand scheme of things it wasn't too spendy(and neither is the Concept 2) compared to other home gym equipment.

                                                                  I used it a lot more last year when I was heavier to keep my knees and fett happier. I need to be using it a bit more now that I'm having a PF issue. I want to start swimming too but hate swimming indoors and even in AZ the mornings are still a bit nippy for the outdoor pool.

                                                                  I have a case of the Fridays today. Really wanted something ooeygooey for breakfast when I stopped to get my coffee. I settled for a yogurt parfait and half a banana. Sigh. Victory but I still want the ooeygooey! LOL

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                                                                    roxlet Jan 24, 2014 11:03 AM

                                                                    That's very nice!

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                                                              valerie Jan 24, 2014 08:48 AM

                                                              That's fantastic!

                                                            3. roxlet Jan 23, 2014 08:14 AM

                                                              The best week I've had in a long, long time -- down 2.4. I'm very happy, and ready to lose more!

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                                                                valerie Jan 23, 2014 09:03 AM

                                                                Great!!!! Aren't you glad you brought your own food to the movies?

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                                                                  roxlet Jan 23, 2014 10:37 AM

                                                                  Yup!

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                                                                  magic Jan 23, 2014 10:25 AM

                                                                  NICE!!!!!

                                                                  Wow, good loss!!!

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                                                                    saturngrrl Jan 30, 2014 08:51 AM

                                                                    Woo hoo! Excellent. To what do you attribute such smashing success? Anything you did differently this week? (Er, last week... sorry, I'm behind on posts!)

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                                                                      roxlet Jan 30, 2014 12:03 PM

                                                                      Yes, I was pretty religious about counting points. It's the key, I'm convinced.

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                                                                    Kontxesi Jan 23, 2014 03:25 AM

                                                                    Down 0.2 last night. Not great, but I'm just satisfied that I wasn't up. I'm pretty sure that I'm retaining fluid right now, anyway.

                                                                    So I was at the body shop last night, listening to my fiance fight with the insurance company, which always stresses me out. In my distress, I grabbed a few Tootsie Rolls from the basket on the counter.

                                                                    Well, I got my punishment before I even tracked them. I was munching on one on the way home when I felt an ungodly CRUNCH. I pulled it out of my mouth and found... pieces of tooth. :| Pieces of a filling, actually, but also maybe tooth. Pretty much half of my back molar just fell away.

                                                                    It isn't hurting, thank God, but I'm pretty sure my options are core-fill and crown or pull, and I'm too broke for the first.... At least I won't be able to eat much for a while! Maybe I'll be down next week. :p

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                                                                      roxlet Jan 23, 2014 06:01 AM

                                                                      Ugh. I know that feeling, and I know the feeling when something like that pulls out a crown. Not fun, but I do love the mini Tootsie Rolls that the vet puts out. I've pretty much learned just to suck on them!

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                                                                        Kontxesi Jan 23, 2014 06:09 AM

                                                                        Oh my gosh. Pulling out a crown must HURT! :o Luckily, this didn't hurt at all when it happened, and it hasn't started up yet. (Honestly, I'm surprised. There is so much missing I can't believe the nerve isn't exposed. Sorry if I'm grossing anyone out....)

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                                                                        valerie Jan 23, 2014 06:01 AM

                                                                        Well good news on your loss, not such good news on your tooth. Good luck with that.

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                                                                          coll Jan 23, 2014 06:37 AM

                                                                          For every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction. Or so they say.

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                                                                            Kontxesi Jan 23, 2014 06:54 AM

                                                                            I had better have something seriously awesome coming around the corner, then.

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                                                                              Kontxesi Jan 24, 2014 11:22 AM

                                                                              Noooope. My heat pump died again, and this time I have to wait several days to get it fixed. :| Car accident, first heat pump incident, insurance agency jerking us around, bone spurs, orthopedic surgeons, tooth breaking, more heat pump problems....

                                                                              This has been a super fun winter. Stress eating like CRAZY.

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                                                                                coll Jan 25, 2014 04:33 AM

                                                                                Sorry to hear all that, this has not been the greatest winter in our neck of the woods either so I know what you mean.

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                                                                                  saturngrrl Jan 30, 2014 08:50 AM

                                                                                  Oh my gosh, you've really been pummeled lately, huh? Sorry to hear about all these awful things going on and I hope things turn around ASAP!! Try not to let the winter doldrums and stress and aggravation derail you, though! It's not worth it. I know, easy for me to say... But seriously, I feel for you and hope you can get through!! Hang in there.

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                                                                          ziggylu Jan 20, 2014 04:09 PM

                                                                          I was off today and was going to mix up some of herby's ratatoouille above...but never got to the store for eggplant and squash. Instead I decided I needed to use up some of the extra lean turkey patties we have in the freezer from Costco.

                                                                          They weren't much when we made them as turkey patties last week. This week I used them for a turkey chili using black bean, corn and some green chile sauce I had in the freezer. It's still simmering but tastes pretty good. Much better tastier use of the patties at least. They are super duper lean so if you're looking for a lean ground meat option for any recipe they are definitely good for that and easy to keep on hand.

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                                                                            roxlet Jan 20, 2014 04:26 PM

                                                                            My husband buys the multi-packs of ground turkey (maybe a pound plus per pack), and we make those into burgers, and just keep in the freezer for whatever, mostly taco salads and Indian meatballs.

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                                                                              ziggylu Jan 20, 2014 04:33 PM

                                                                              I buy those too. These patties are even leaner...which is why they make terrible burgers actually!

                                                                          2. roxlet Jan 19, 2014 03:45 PM

                                                                            Another movie, 3 hours long, so I brought a sandwich and fruit. Man, did that movie popcorn smell good! Onward!

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                                                                              valerie Jan 19, 2014 04:19 PM

                                                                              But don't you feel good that you got through it? Did you see Wolf of Wall Street?

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                                                                                roxlet Jan 19, 2014 04:22 PM

                                                                                Yes, and I think Scorsese should have cut at least an hour out of the picture. I find it hard to believe that his editor let him do this. There wasn't a patron who wasn't checking his phone for the time. And I am glad I planned my lunch and brought it with me. I would have succumbed to the popcorn otherwise. ;)

                                                                            2. rabaja Jan 19, 2014 08:01 AM

                                                                              Last night we came home from Sonoma with two cooked and cleaned Dungeness crabs. So big and sweet, I couldn't even eat all of mine. I tracked it this morning and was surprised to see 6 oz of meat is only 4 points!
                                                                              We like to make a meal out of fresh crab, with little more than a salad. The points make me want to do it more often.
                                                                              Of course, we also brought home chocolate eclairs, but I'm not going to dwell on that.
                                                                              Good week of tracking and adjusting my mind set though. I'll weigh myself soon and have to reevaluate further, I imagine.
                                                                              Today I'm going in to work where I'll be surrounded by game day food (sliders, buffalo wings, ribs, deviled eggs -your basic nightmare) and then will be making endless desserts.
                                                                              Keeping my eye on the prize! Those cute clothes in the closet aren't going to magically get bigger.
                                                                              Happy Sunday people! I'm arming myself with fruit salad and crudités.

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                                                                                saturngrrl Jan 19, 2014 02:27 PM

                                                                                LOL about the eclairs... but yes, seafood is typically a great points "bargain" - I tend to eat a lot of fish, shrimp, scallops, etc. Good luck in the food wars at work today!

                                                                              2. roxlet Jan 18, 2014 01:10 PM

                                                                                So I'm giving myself a "Bravo" for today so far. I decided to take myself off to a movie, and I remembered to pack a couple of tangerines to get me through. I came home ravenous (didn't get lunch until almost 3), and had my 97% FF hotdogs and some nonfat Fage with fruit. It's my most successful day till this point in a long time.

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                                                                                  magic Jan 18, 2014 01:22 PM

                                                                                  Well done roxlet!

                                                                                  I enjoy those Hebrew National dogs. With some corn relish and a bit of ketchup they are pretty tasty and low in points.

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                                                                                    saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 03:35 PM

                                                                                    I really like the Ballpark Smoked White Turkey hotdogs. I've never tried the Hebrew National. When I need to restock, maybe I'll give those a shot!

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                                                                                      magic Jan 20, 2014 06:48 AM

                                                                                      When next in the States I will look for some Ballpark Smoked White Turkey to buy, thanks!

                                                                                      Hebrew National 97% fat free hot dogs are 1 point each. As good as regular dogs? No. But for a point each, I put those suckers in a bun with some tasty toppings and it scratches a hot dog itch just fine. I buy a couple packs whenever in the States (I usually make it to the U.S. a few times a year).

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                                                                                        pine time Jan 20, 2014 01:08 PM

                                                                                        We've gotten used to "hotdogless"--tofu dogs. If warmed just enough, they're perfectly fine with all the toppings--can't really tell they're tofu. Only 1 point +, too.

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                                                                                          magic Jan 20, 2014 01:22 PM

                                                                                          A fine alternative!

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                                                                                    ziggylu Jan 18, 2014 01:44 PM

                                                                                    Good job, roxlet! The oranges and tangerines are so good right now...but resisting movie popcorn! The smell gets me everytime!

                                                                                    I tried some cottage cheese with some fresh salsa for lunch. It actually was pretty good. I normally put fruit in my cottage cheese but wanted something savory, high in protein and low in calories as we're going to a friend's house for dinner tonight. This was surprisingly tasty actually. I had some trader joe's carrots with it and they were so sweet tasting and satisfied the crunch craving that salsa brings on (tortilla chips are a terrible trigger food for me so are never found in the house anymore).

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                                                                                      roxlet Jan 18, 2014 03:15 PM

                                                                                      I like cottage cheese, but it doesn't like me. I find it very, very difficult to resist movie popcorn, or all salty snacks for that matter. I have a much easier time with sweet things than salty. I'm going to another movie tomorrow with a friend, and this one is 3 hours long, so I will be packing a sandwich AND fruit! Maybe I'll also bring some low fat microwave popcorn too...

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                                                                                        ziggylu Jan 18, 2014 03:42 PM

                                                                                        Salty is much harder for me too! I can't keep any salty snacks in the house as I can't resist them, even if pre-portioned. Sweet I"m OK with too...we still have Christmas cookies in teh fridge and I have a bunch of chocolate bars in the fridge that I can easily ignore.

                                                                                        I take a big purse to the movies....We make popcorn at home win the Whirley Pop and bring it in sometimes. I wish I could do this for basketball games but they search your bag at the arena.

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                                                                                          saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 06:20 PM

                                                                                          I'm also in the salty snack camp. I can have ice cream in the freezer for months without touching it, except a spoonful at a time, maybe two times a week. But any chips or crackers (or popcorn, for that matter!)? Fergedabouddit. But my real weakness is french fries. I succumbed to a very small portion with my dinner tonight. :-/

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                                                                                          valerie Jan 18, 2014 04:30 PM

                                                                                          Yes, bring popcorn with you, or some other snack, and enjoy the movie!

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                                                                                          Caitlin McGrath Jan 19, 2014 04:23 PM

                                                                                          My favorite savory cottage cheese thing is to mix in chopped cucumbers and a generous amount of za'atar (not quite nothing since it has sesame seeds, but you're not getting a lot).

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                                                                                            ziggylu Jan 19, 2014 07:51 PM

                                                                                            Ooh! I have both on hand! Lunch tomorrow since I'm home. Thanks for the idea!!

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                                                                                              saturngrrl Jan 20, 2014 10:03 AM

                                                                                              That sounds awesome! Thanks for the suggestion!

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                                                                                                ziggylu Jan 20, 2014 12:41 PM

                                                                                                So I didn't have any made up za'atar after all...and was low on cottage cheese but inspired by this I mixed up some cottage cheese and ricotta. Added some persian cucumber, a carrot and some sweet bell pepper and then sprinkled with some makings of za'atar: cumin, sumac, sesame seed, oregano, thyme. It was a pretty tasty lunch actually. The veggies added a good crunch to the cottage/ricotta cheese mixture.

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                                                                                                  pine time Jan 20, 2014 01:10 PM

                                                                                                  Reminded me of my faux Danish: well toasted whole-grain English muffin, spread with fat free ricotta (I sweeten with Splenda), a sprinkle of cinnamon, then several chopped strawberries.

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                                                                                              eviemichael Jan 20, 2014 11:12 PM

                                                                                              Good job! It's so hard to resist greasy popcorn. (Oh great, now I'm in the mood for greasy popcorn!)

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                                                                                                roxlet Jan 21, 2014 06:47 AM

                                                                                                I frequently go to the movies alone, and there is nothing like sitting in the theatre, waiting for the movie to start, and tucking into a nice bag of "buttered" popcorn with a Diet Pepsi by my side. Indulgence. I never had the slightest interest in candy at the movies. For me, it was always popcorn.

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                                                                                                  eviemichael Jan 21, 2014 10:30 AM

                                                                                                  Me too! And diet pepsi is even my drink of choice as well! I commend your self control...I have been having a hard time. Ate a nutella crepe today. Tomorrow is another day...

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                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 21, 2014 10:32 AM

                                                                                                    Well, I went a little off the rails last night, but I think I was within my weekly points. Instead of making black bean soup, which was my plan, I wound up making buttered toast using some of the cracked wheat bread I made last week. Then, I had some nuts, and then some truffled mousse pate on crackers. When I started on my little trip off the rails, I had 15 points for the day, and all of my weeklies, so I think I'm OK. On program so far today.

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                                                                                                      eviemichael Jan 21, 2014 08:42 PM

                                                                                                      I'm sorry, I didn't read anything after "truffled mousse pate." YUM.

                                                                                                      I'm getting to the point where I have to force myself to enter what I've eaten...shame!

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                                                                                                    ziggylu Jan 21, 2014 08:47 PM

                                                                                                    When we first moved to Phoenix for my husband's job...I wasn't working, hadn't decided to go back to school yet, had no friends, and it was the dead of summer...I took myself to a lunchtime movie once a week and enjoyed popcorn as my lunch. Good times made a hot, lonely summer memorable!

                                                                                                    I'm an iced tea or water gal myself though! LOL (I have always had four basic beverage groups only: water, tea, coffee, wine. )

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                                                                                                      roxlet Jan 22, 2014 06:28 AM

                                                                                                      I really enjoy going to the movies by myself. My husband is not a movie guy, so when friends are not available to accompany me, off I go. But with WW I have to plan ahead and make sure I have something to eat so I don't go for that bag of popcorn!

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                                                                                                valerie Jan 16, 2014 06:26 PM

                                                                                                Just prepared my breakfast and lunch for tomorrow to take to work. Yogurt, Fiber One cereal and a banana for breakfast and salad for lunch. I bring roasted red peppers and Trader Joe's marinated mushrooms (in water) to add to the salad right before I eat it, otherwise the salad gets too soggy. Pineapple/grapes, a honeybell orange and a 90 calorie Fiber One bar to eat during the day as snacks. All in 10 points. Not sure what is for dinner yet...and that could be dangerous!

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                                                                                                  ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 07:22 PM

                                                                                                  I"ve been sitting here thinking I need to pack up some cottage cheese and fruit to take for breakfat tomorrow, but have been too lazy to get up to do it(I don't know why...the U of A/ASU game we are watching is anything but riveting).

                                                                                                  You've inspired me to get up off my duff and do it. Thanks! :)

                                                                                                  (mmm...honeybells! I've been workign my way through a bag of Cara Cara but love the Honeybells too!)

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                                                                                                    valerie Jan 16, 2014 08:03 PM

                                                                                                    I am a Wildcat...go UofA :)

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                                                                                                      ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 08:19 PM

                                                                                                      I work on Sparky's campus but when it comes to hoops I'm definitely a Wildcat fan. Looking forward to watching them in the tournament this year.

                                                                                                      (still haven't made breakfast. LOL game just ended going to do it now for sure!)

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                                                                                                        saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 03:34 PM

                                                                                                        I went to grad school at ASU part time when I lived in Phoenix/Tempe! I left in 1997 for a job on the east coast and never finished my degree, which makes me a little sad. I never did get too attached to the sports teams there... I went to the University of Kansas, so I consider myself a Jayhawk! :-)

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                                                                                                        Kontxesi Jan 17, 2014 07:25 AM

                                                                                                        My grandpa taught at UofA, and my mom and all of her siblings went there, except the youngest. He defected and went to ASU.

                                                                                                        I would have gone there if we hadn't moved to Virginia.

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                                                                                                    renrewjbw Jan 16, 2014 11:38 AM

                                                                                                    Trying the new plan, but still writing down the points. Am a life time member. I tried a great new way to eat cabbage. Cut it into 1" rounds, brush w/extra virgin olive, some crushed garlic, oil, s & p. Bake at 350 for about 20-30 min/side.

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                                                                                                      ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 01:16 PM

                                                                                                      Sounds good...i've never thought to roast cabbage. I'll have to try that!

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                                                                                                        Kontxesi Jan 16, 2014 06:26 PM

                                                                                                        I think I have something like that on Pinterest.... From Martha Stewart, maybe? It sounds delicious.

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                                                                                                          saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 03:32 PM

                                                                                                          Oooooh! I'm going to go buy some cabbage right now and try that. Sounds yummy!

                                                                                                        2. roxlet Jan 16, 2014 09:02 AM

                                                                                                          Ugh. Up again. I was out to a lunch on Tuesday, and out to dim sum yesterday. I'm determined to make this a losing week.

                                                                                                          I haven't been counting my points due to the browser problem I was having, so I finally switched to Firefox, where the WW site seems to be working fine. Counting my points will definitely help.

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                                                                                                            ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 10:26 AM

                                                                                                            Dim Sum yesterday was proabably high in salt...I bet you lose next week!

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                                                                                                              roxlet Jan 16, 2014 11:41 AM

                                                                                                              Probably true. It was a special treat for my son who was off school. I normally would try to avoid eating out the day before my weigh in. But I can't blame that entirely. Not tracking is the real culprit, I think. Or should I say that I am the real culprit since I didn't track!

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                                                                                                                valerie Jan 16, 2014 12:04 PM

                                                                                                                I am with you. I, too, vow to make this a losing week. Got on the scale today at my meeting and my carelessness (and evening snacks) really showed.

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                                                                                                                  ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 01:08 PM

                                                                                                                  the day before can be hard! I weigh in tonight...got tied up at work late last night and had to meet my husband at the arena for the basketball game with no time to eat before hand. Dinner ended up being half a personal size pizza and half a small popcorn from the concession stands(I hate when I can't eat before the game...not only are there poor choices, but it's not well made!).

                                                                                                                  I'm sure the salt is still with me today! So we'll see what happens tonight...

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                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 16, 2014 02:39 PM

                                                                                                                    Pizza the day before has never been good for me.

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                                                                                                                      ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 07:20 PM

                                                                                                                      Up as predicted! LOL Yay pizza and popcorn! LOL

                                                                                                                      I"ve gotten used to these ups and downs...I'm still down overall for the last few weeks so I'll just keep plugging along til the next drop.

                                                                                                                      I have to admit I"m getting tired of the Simply Start focused meetings. I hope after the January push they move on.

                                                                                                                      We have a game tomorrow night and WILL eat before we go this time, even if I'm eating carrot sticks in the car.

                                                                                                            2. rabaja Jan 16, 2014 08:07 AM

                                                                                                              Tracking everything the last three days now. It's really eye opening to see how the points add up.
                                                                                                              I think the months of pregnancy and then being post-partum/ nursing resulted in me forgetting all of the strategy I'd employed in my diet.
                                                                                                              The points add up so quickly! Trying to stick around 30 per day has been laughable. Can't even imagine how I'll go back to 28 when I'm done nursing.

                                                                                                              Lunch is where I'm stalling out a bit. I know salads are the best choice, but I'm having a problem with satiety.
                                                                                                              I've eaten a package of tofu in the last two days, which has been delicious and relatively low points, but again with the soy...
                                                                                                              I need to get back in the heavy on the egg white frittata, chicken breast frame of mind.
                                                                                                              Even my snack ideas are tacking on the points, and I'm only talking a slice of cheese and gluten free crackers.

                                                                                                              Oh wait, I save points for a glass of wine in the evening, two glasses really. That must be it!

                                                                                                              It's a lifestyle choice though. My lifestyle is just better with wine.

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                                                                                                                magic Jan 16, 2014 08:18 AM

                                                                                                                Toss some shrimps in with that salad. Low in points, high in protein. Or some fish.

                                                                                                                If you get tired of chicken breast....

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                                                                                                                  rabaja Jan 16, 2014 08:20 PM

                                                                                                                  Good idea! I'd forgotten how handy shrimp can be.
                                                                                                                  I used to try to eat as much tuna, smoked trout and canned salmon as I could without mercury issues, getting sick of it or breaking the bank (respectively). Dave's salmon is delicious but pricey!
                                                                                                                  All these things I must re-learn or remember...

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                                                                                                                    saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 03:21 PM

                                                                                                                    I keep a stock of 2.5-oz pouches of Chicken of the Sea pink salmon handy... they're 2 points and make a nice addition to a salad from the office salad bar, which is my go-to lunch choice these days. They offer a decent variety of colorful, flavorful veggies and stuff, and I top with a teensy drizzle of olive oil, and splashes of balsamic vinegar and soy sauce.

                                                                                                                    http://chickenofthesea.com/products/s...

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                                                                                                                  herby Jan 16, 2014 08:23 AM

                                                                                                                  Love your suggestion of egg white frittata - have not thought of it myself! I recently bought egg whites in tetra packs, made scrambled eggs with one whole and some whites and run out of ideas. Any other ideas out there for using egg whites?

                                                                                                                  Rabaja, I am so with you on the wine LOL Maybe that's why the ## are moving in the wrong direction for me? I am also having trouble tracking - either forget or too complicated to figure out recipe points especially as I tend to put a bit of this and a pinch of that when I cook...

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                                                                                                                    weezieduzzit Jan 16, 2014 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                    The issue with wine (any alcohol,) is that your body will use it for fuel first, then what you ate and the glucose your body stored and then fat. It doesn't stop weight loss, it just postpones it and since alcohol has 7 calories per gram (2 less than fat but almost twice either carbs or protein,) how long you postpone it depends on how much you consume and how often.

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                                                                                                                      rabaja Jan 16, 2014 08:28 PM

                                                                                                                      This is why I started having my glass of wine after dinner, without food and after waiting a bit to let my dinner digest.
                                                                                                                      I read exactly what you stated over and over and I finally realized, it needs to be an occasional glass or seperate from meals. It became like my dessert.
                                                                                                                      Now my nights are too short to space out meals plus wine. C'est la vie.

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                                                                                                                        saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 03:24 PM

                                                                                                                        The other issue with alcohol... for some people, anyway... is that it tends to lower your resistance to eating junk. Our WW leader once referred to it as "liquid shrug." You're more likely to just shrug off your willpower and say, "Eh, what the heck... what's the harm in having some chips or a cookie?"

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                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 16, 2014 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                        I make a baked ratatouille with eggplant, zucchini, red pepper, onions and tomatoes, and then use that in the egg white frittata. When I was losing quickly, that was a frequent breakfast for me, but there's no reason not to have that for lunch! Just bought the ingredients today.

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                                                                                                                          herby Jan 16, 2014 10:55 AM

                                                                                                                          I make baked ratatouille too! From River Cottage Veg - great recipe, btw. So, woud you use 1 cup ratatouille to 1/2 cup egg whites? Add milk to whites or not? Cook on the stove until bottom is done and then under the broiler?

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                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 16, 2014 11:34 AM

                                                                                                                            I use 2 egg whites to one whole egg, so I'm not sure of the measure. I probably use closer to 1/2 cup of ratatouille. I have a certain pan I cook it in, and I put in enough of the rat to cover the bottom of the pan, heat it up, then add the eggs, stirring until beginning to set. I let it cook, covered, until it's set, then I flip it onto a plate, and slide back into the pan to cook of the other side. I don't put it under the broiler, and I would never add milk to this at all. I'm not sure why you would do that...

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                                                                                                                              herby Jan 16, 2014 12:04 PM

                                                                                                                              Milk or cream makes frittata (and omelette too) suffle-like. I usually sprinkle chees on top and broil when top is ready. I'll measure one egg white and then I'll know how much to use. I bought just egg whites to try because I hate to throw things out, even egg yorks :)

                                                                                                                              Thank you for sharing your technique!

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                                                                                                                            herby Jan 16, 2014 04:38 PM

                                                                                                                            Stopped by a produce store and got everything for ratatouille - egg white frittatas are going to be breakfast next week. Thank you, Roxlet, for the suggestion!

                                                                                                                            This week I had baked oatmeal for breakfast and one boiled egg for extra protein. That was amazingly filling. I am usually ready for something around 11am but this week I was good until at least 12pm and sometimes later. Will see what the scale says on Saturday :)

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                                                                                                                              roxlet Jan 16, 2014 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                              I wish I liked oatmeal, but since childhood, I have found all hot cereals to be kind of nauseating.

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                                                                                                                                herby Jan 16, 2014 06:39 PM

                                                                                                                                When it is baked the texture is very different - not a mushy glutinous mess but more cake/bar like - hard to explain. Try half recipe and see what you think. It smells amazing as it bakes - like a banana bread - but is barely sweet with 1/4C maple syrup for six portions.

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                                                                                                                                  eviemichael Jan 17, 2014 02:32 AM

                                                                                                                                  Ohhh, yes, I'd love your recipe too. :)

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                                                                                                                                rabaja Jan 16, 2014 08:29 PM

                                                                                                                                How do you do the baked oatmeal? It sounds delicious and I'm always looking for new ways to do oatmeal.

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                                                                                                                                  herby Jan 17, 2014 05:00 AM

                                                                                                                                  I made Heidi Swanson recipe here:
                                                                                                                                  http://www.lottieanddoof.com/2011/04/baked-oatmeal/

                                                                                                                                  Skinnytaste has a similar one but I have not tried it yet:
                                                                                                                                  http://www.skinnytaste.com/2012/01/ba...

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                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 17, 2014 05:13 AM

                                                                                                                                    That looks really good, but I generally try to keep my breakfast points lower. I do 4 points with Cheerios, fruit, and skim milk in both my coffee and int he Cheerios. I love oatmeal cookies, and it kind of looks like it has that kind of vibe to it.

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                                                                                                                                      herby Jan 17, 2014 06:48 AM

                                                                                                                                      It kind of does. I made it as directed but next time will make 1/2 recipe and still bake in 8x8 pan so that it is not as thick. Probably will leave fruit in the same amount. Have to calculate points - no idea how many in a serving.

                                                                                                                                      I do not like cold cereal at all and generally prefer hot breakfast - eggs anything is by far my favourite breakfast dish.

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                                                                                                                                      rabaja Jan 17, 2014 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                      I love the 101 cookbook recipe, thank you.
                                                                                                                                      I think I'll try it with half the oats as well and see how it comes out point wise.
                                                                                                                                      Oatmeal is something I need to eat everyday, so I'm looking forward to trying this.

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                                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 17, 2014 10:02 AM

                                                                                                                                        I eat Cheerios ;)

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                                                                                                                                          ziggylu Jan 17, 2014 10:27 AM

                                                                                                                                          Gosh, I love oatmeal! I eat mine pretty simply though. I prefer the steel cut but will grab some of the old fashioned from our cooks on campus occasionally.

                                                                                                                                          At home I cook it with dates in it(again with the dates! LOL) and top it with a tablespoon of sliced almonds. Here on campus I'll put just a bit of brown sugar and some raisins. I don't like it very sweet and can't eat any of the instant stuff.

                                                                                                                                          I love cheerios, but they don't hold me at all. I've really gotten to wear I need to eat some good amount of protein in the morning...egg, cottage cheese, ricotta, or yogurt. Otherwise, I'm cranky and hungry all morning!

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                                                                                                                                            rabaja Jan 17, 2014 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                            I love it too, and keep meaning to make a batch of steel cut for a couple days supply.

                                                                                                                                            I need to eat it for milk-production, and I don't think Cheerios will help there, but I understand the whole cholesterol thing.
                                                                                                                                            Instant doesn't work the same way, either.

                                                                                                                                            I like your date idea, we use a lot of dried blueberries and raisins, sometimes prunes. -a lot meaning often, not large quantities :)

                                                                                                                                            I tried mixing in an egg to my hot oatmeal and it kind of skivved me out. I'd read it made it creamy and I wanted the protein, but the white made threads I just couldn't get past. And I'm not a skivvies-easily kind of girl.

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                                                                                                                                              roxlet Jan 17, 2014 11:15 AM

                                                                                                                                              OK, that completely skived me out. And I didn't even have to see it!

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                                                                                                                                                herby Jan 17, 2014 11:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                Rabaja, baked oatmeal has an egg in it and you probably could add another one in there. You do not know its there as you don't notice egg in cookies, etc.

                                                                                                                                                You could also add quinoa to oatmeal for a bit of extra protein.

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                                                                                                                                                  rabaja Jan 17, 2014 07:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Ok, I'll try it.
                                                                                                                                                  I must have done something wrong the first time. Thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                    coll Jan 19, 2014 08:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                    I make a vegan version (my friend's, I'm not) that only calls for almond/rice milk and baking powder. No egg at all. It's delicious!

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                                                                                                                                                      renrewjbw Jan 19, 2014 08:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                      would you mind sharing recipe? How many WW points?

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                                                                                                                                                        coll Jan 20, 2014 02:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Here's the recipe, you'll have to tell me how many points though ;-)

                                                                                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9276...

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                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 20, 2014 05:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                          I'm not sure how many servings this recipe makes, but for 6 servings it's 4 points+, and for 4 servings it's 6 points+. I did the recipe builder using almond milk. Not sure if the other would be different.

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                                                                                                                                                            coll Jan 20, 2014 06:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                            I make it into four but I do love it quite a bit. Thanks for the info!

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                                                                                                                                                Caitlin McGrath Jan 19, 2014 04:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                I have been making steel-cut oats in the slow cooker with pumpkin puree and fruit, and I love it as a make-ahead option. I don't cook them in milk, but I do add unsweetened/unflavored whey protein powder. It's obviously reheatable, but I confess that I prefer it cold from the fridge - while plain cold oatmeal is not at all appealing, this oatmeal with pumpkin has a pudding-like consistency when chilled.

                                                                                                                                                In the event anyone's interested, I use 1 cup steel-cut oats, 1 regular can pumpkin puree, and 4 cups water. I also add a few scoops of whey protein powder, a generous tablespoon each cinnamon and dried ginger, and usually ~1/4 cup maple syrup (though I've also used apple butter as the sweetener). It takes about 5 hours on low (modern, higher-temp slow cooker), and during the last hour or so, I add a couple diced apples and a handful of (fresh or frozen) cranberries. Sometimes I stir in some chopped walnuts when it's done. I don't know the points, but this makes 2 quarts, easily 6-8 hearty servings.

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                                                                                                                                                  rabaja Jan 19, 2014 09:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                  That recipe sounds great. If it would only get cold and rainy here so I could really relish the comforts of warm oatmeal. Either way, I will be making that soon, maybe this week, thank you.
                                                                                                                                                  We haven't gotten a slow cooker yet. Do you think I could do it in a Dutch oven and at a low temp in the oven?
                                                                                                                                                  It's probably time to just get a crock pot. I seem to say that every three months.

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                                                                                                                                                    Caitlin McGrath Jan 20, 2014 12:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                    I just noticed that I wrote 1 cup of water, when it should be 4 cups. Oops! I requested that the mods correct that in my post above.

                                                                                                                                                    Hmm, I don't know about a low oven, that might work. You could also just do it all on the stove. If you don't want to spend the ~40 minutes with occasional stirring it takes to get steel-cut oats cooked, you could use the overnight soak method, where you bring the oats and water to a boil, then take it off the heat, cover, and let sit overnight (or the equivalent), then bring to a boil and cook on low heat for 10-15 minutes. If going that route, I'd add the apples, spices, and whey (if using, so it can dissolve) when you start cooking, and stir in the pumpkin and any sweetener near the end. You can, of course, use milk for part of the liquid; I use the whey powder both because I don't always have milk around and because it's a pretty low-cal, low-carb protein source.

                                                                                                                                                    I don't use my crock pot a lot, and it's a very basic, not real large model I got super cheaply years ago, but it's good for this kind of thing and great for no-fuss stock. I keep reading how good they are for dried beans, so I ought to try that.

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                                                                                                                                                    eviemichael Jan 20, 2014 11:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                    That sounds sooo good, thanks for the recipe! I've been craving oatmeal non stop lately and pumpkin is one of my favorite flavors.

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                                                                                                                                          juliejulez Jan 16, 2014 11:16 AM

                                                                                                                                          I've also found alcohol of any kind makes me retain water terribly. Even 1 glass of wine will cause the scale to temporarily go up the next day.

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                                                                                                                                            saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 03:28 PM

                                                                                                                                            Funny, I find the opposite - that alcohol has a dehydrating effect on me and I lose (temporarily) after indulging! Weird!

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                                                                                                                                            rabaja Jan 16, 2014 08:25 PM

                                                                                                                                            I use four egg whites to two whole eggs. I usually make an 8" frittata and cut it into quarters to share with my husband.
                                                                                                                                            I like to pack them with whatever veg needs using up, although this time of year I've been making spinach and green onion with mushrooms or cauliflower. The orange cauliflower makes particularly nice frittata if you can find it.
                                                                                                                                            A pastry chef by trade, I almost always have egg whites on hand. One white equals one ounce.
                                                                                                                                            My job is just another obstacle when it comes to a healthy diet.

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                                                                                                                                              roxlet Jan 17, 2014 04:58 AM

                                                                                                                                              I'm not a pastry chef, but I consider myself a baker, so I know what you mean. I am always baking for my family--mostly bread lately -- and for my son's team or for bake sales. Hmmmm. Let me just see how this came out... It's a disaster!

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                                                                                                                                                rabaja Jan 17, 2014 09:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                That's exactly it, all that tasting!
                                                                                                                                                It was worse when I worked in restaurants and every component on a menu had to be tasted on a daily basis.
                                                                                                                                                Now I try to manage my tastes, and am not a big sugar person outside of work.

                                                                                                                                                This Sunday we are doing a big football party. The brownies, the bar cookies, the loaf cakes and cupcakes. They are all going to tempt me and ask me to take samples home, they always do!

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                                                                                                                                                  ziggylu Jan 17, 2014 10:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                  I was just up in our bakeshop and they were pulling cookies, date bars, and cinnamon rolls out of the ovens. gosh it smelled good...i ran the other way before any of the bakers could tempt me with one! LOL

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                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 17, 2014 10:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Run, run, RUN!!!!!!

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                                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 16, 2014 09:06 AM

                                                                                                                                            Lunch is my problem area too. And 4PM in the afternoon...

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                                                                                                                                              ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 10:25 AM

                                                                                                                                              So true...tracking really opened my eyes when I first started to what I"d been eating! And really helped me learn to change how I eat as I learned ot best budget my points.

                                                                                                                                              Lunch has always been a challenge for me. I'm not a salad lover in general but I've learned to like them at lunch and am sure to include some kind of protein so they hold me. Somedays, since I eat at work at the universtiy, I'll have some kind of protein and a plate of mixed steamed vegetables. We usually have soups out that aren't terribly high in calories/points so I'll have a small cup of soup most days. I don't eat many sandwiches to avoid the bread. If I were home I'd probably eat similar to breakfast - lots of eggs, cottage cheese or ricotta.

                                                                                                                                              I've gotten better about bringing snacks to eat in my office during the day as ewll. I try to have a piece of fruit around 10 and another around 2. I bring a couple light string cheeses to snack on too. I also keep a few Kind bars on hand for days when meetings keep me from eating breakfast or lunch at a normal time. Those really hold me and satisfy me and aren't full of all kinds of strange things.

                                                                                                                                              Wine is tough. I pretty much have given it up...which wasn't too difficult since my DH doesn't drink. Socially it was a little challenging though people I socialize with are now used to me turning down a glass of wine and just sticking with seltzer when we are together so I'm not nearly as tempted as I used to be. Over the holidays, I did enjoy wine on more than a couple occasions. One thing I found was my body sure wasn't used to it anymore....a glass and a half and I was really feeling it the next day!

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                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 16, 2014 11:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                One thing that I have liked for lunch is the Progresso Light soups. I usually throw in some siracha, if it's a southwestern style, or some grated Romano if it's Italian style. For most of the soups, a full can is 4 points. There are a couple of the vegetable ones where a full can is 2 points!

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                                                                                                                                                  ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 01:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                  I haven't tried any of those. I like to doctor canned soup too...sometimes just a squeeze of lemon is enough I like hot sauce or grated parm or romano as well!

                                                                                                                                                  At work, I eat what our chefs make so not canned(turkey, kale and brown rice today that was pretty tasty!). All of our recipes were recently added to the My Fitness Pal data base so it's made tracking so easy now!

                                                                                                                                                  We do keep some canned on hand at home for weekend lunches when we are in a hurry. I like the Amy's split pea and the lentil. The Trader Joe's Split Pea is also pretty good. I'm going ot have to look at the Progresso line and see what we might like. I also will buy Matzoh Ball soup from a local deli and bring home a lot. Mmmm

                                                                                                                                                  I could seriously live off soup I think. Even in July in Phoenix!

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                                                                                                                                                  rabaja Jan 16, 2014 08:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Steamed veggies! Of course. I need to keep those around along with some crudités for quick snacks and lunches. Thanks.

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                                                                                                                                                  juliejulez Jan 16, 2014 11:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                  I'm not sure what your point spread looks like, but what about just making extra for dinner and eating that for lunch the next day (or a few days down the road when you're not tired of it)? That's pretty much what I do. BUT, if your points spread is such that you save a lot of calories for dinner, then that won't work as well. But sometimes, I just cut out an item from dinner and still use the other parts for lunch... so like eat the chicken breast and a veggie from the night before, but not the starch.

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                                                                                                                                                    rabaja Jan 16, 2014 08:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                    That's a good idea. I always give my husband any leftovers since he doesn't work from home as much as I do, but I should start making enough for both of us.

                                                                                                                                                    I can totally get behind just eating the protein or veg that's leftover too.

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                                                                                                                                                  Kontxesi Jan 16, 2014 04:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Down 1.4. That's my first move in the right direction since the week before Thanksgiving! Now I just need to keep up that trend.

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                                                                                                                                                    eviemichael Jan 16, 2014 05:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Congrats! Great job.

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                                                                                                                                                      valerie Jan 16, 2014 06:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                      That's great! I am weighing in today. Not so sure it's going to be a loss, but I gotta get back to the meetings.

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                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 16, 2014 06:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Well done!!!!!! The tide is shifting......

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                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 16, 2014 09:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Good for you!

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                                                                                                                                                            ziggylu Jan 16, 2014 10:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Yay!

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                                                                                                                                                            relizabeth Jan 15, 2014 05:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                            How would you give points to the broth in this recipe?

                                                                                                                                                            http://smittenkitchen.com/blog/2014/0...

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                                                                                                                                                              roxlet Jan 15, 2014 07:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Interesting. I don't know.

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                                                                                                                                                                Kontxesi Jan 16, 2014 04:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                Hmmm. I think I would base it on the weight of the cheese left in the strainer. Start with 8 ounces, have 4 left in the strainer, call it 12 points.

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                                                                                                                                                                relizabeth Jan 13, 2014 10:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                I rejoined WW yesterday after a long hiatus. I had a baby in September, and have about 35-40lbs still to lose. Nursing gives me lots of pts (40!), but I am so hungry!

                                                                                                                                                                DH is pescatarian, so I cook that way at home. I think WW will force me to eat healthier grains/more legumes/more vegetables than then quick pasta + cheese rut we've been in. And, maybe be a reason to be more active.

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                                                                                                                                                                  rabaja Jan 13, 2014 10:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  Hope you and the baby are doing well, relizabeth!
                                                                                                                                                                  I'm in a similar boat, though our baby is near seven months now. Really struggling to lose, which I know is partly because I haven't stuck to an exercise regime since my schedule went crazy in December.

                                                                                                                                                                  No matter, I'm tracking now and will be weighing myself this week just to know the damage.

                                                                                                                                                                  One thing re all the points you get from nursing. I think it's too many points for me personally. I'm not one of those women who dropped the baby weight through nursing and is now back to a rail (like my sister did, very unfair!). I only gained 18 pounds during pregnancy but I fear I've added another ten to the amount I must now lose to get back into my clothes.
                                                                                                                                                                  Thinking of keeping myself closer to 30 points and seeing how that goes.

                                                                                                                                                                  We got a vitamix for Xmas, so I'm loving the fruit and veg smoothies every morning. With whey powder and coconut water, they are still very low on points. -the baby even is eating these with us, with yogurt, and loving it.

                                                                                                                                                                  Last night we had a skinnytaste recipe, the tuna noodle casserole. 8 points and pretty filling and comforting.

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                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 13, 2014 11:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    This is the perfect time to join! I wish I had way back when, and that I had stuck with it the times I joined later. Good luck, and stick with it. 40 points is awesome!

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                                                                                                                                                                      valerie Jan 13, 2014 11:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Agreed. After my daughter (now 9) was born, I said "hey why lose the weight now" since I was already thinking of having my second child. Well, he is now 7 and instead of just losing the baby weight, I am trying to lose the baby weight and then some.

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                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 13, 2014 11:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Hey, my son is 18, and I'm still trying to lose ALL the baby weight! lol

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                                                                                                                                                                      magic Jan 13, 2014 01:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Don't be hungry!

                                                                                                                                                                      Fruits are your friend. Fill up! Zero points!

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                                                                                                                                                                        juliejulez Jan 13, 2014 01:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Fruits still have a decent amount of calories.... a medium apple is around 100 calories... So while I understand on WW they are zero points, if you're "filling up" on fruits, you might end up eating too much. Better to fill up on veggies actually... much lower in calorie.

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                                                                                                                                                                          rabaja Jan 13, 2014 01:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          I think about that when I make my smoothies. They are largely spinach or chard with a handful of berries and a half a pear.
                                                                                                                                                                          Still, I know overdosing on raspberries or oranges is not what made my pants tight.

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                                                                                                                                                                            juliejulez Jan 13, 2014 01:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Oh of course not. Just hate to think of people filling up on fruit thinking it's not going to hurt their weight-loss.

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                                                                                                                                                                              rabaja Jan 13, 2014 01:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              No, your right. Didn't mean to sound contrary.

                                                                                                                                                                              I remember MC had a trick to eat a bowl of steamed broccoli before dinner so you don't sit down with a ravenous appetite. This us what I should probably do more of. It's just easier to grab an apple or eat a pint of raspberries.

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                                                                                                                                                                                juliejulez Jan 13, 2014 01:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Yeah I've been trying to double my veggie intake with dinner, that way I get filled up on those instead of wanting more of whatever the "main" is.

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                                                                                                                                                                            magic Jan 13, 2014 02:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I get that, but I assume WW has already considered that, no? Otherwise they wouldn't be zero points.

                                                                                                                                                                            Of course, filling up on a mix of fruits and veggies is great. And if someone can fill up on veggies alone for an extended period of time God bless them, they should do it.

                                                                                                                                                                            My general point is one shouldn't be hungry, take advantage of those zero point foods.

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                                                                                                                                                                              juliejulez Jan 13, 2014 04:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              Honestly, I think their reasoning in making them zero points is to encourage people to eat more of them.... since most people don't eat nearly enough. But it sort of lends itself to people thinking "hey these are zero points so I can eat tons and not gain weight". Not the right mindset.

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                                                                                                                                                                                magic Jan 13, 2014 05:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Of course you have to use your noggin and not go overboard, I'm not saying to gorge on fruit. I'm saying to fill up on fruit if you are hungry.

                                                                                                                                                                                It's either fruit (or veg of course) or something far worse.

                                                                                                                                                                                Or hunger.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  juliejulez Jan 13, 2014 05:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  This may not be a popular opinion, but there's nothing wrong with feeling a little hunger, especially at the beginning and while you're trying to lose weight. I know when I got started, I went from eating 3000+ calories a day to 1200. Yes, I was hungry. But I got used to it, and now most days I don't feel hungry at 1500-1600, and feel great at my maintenance level of 1900-2000.

                                                                                                                                                                                  But really if you're eating a decent diet of what's been allotted to you, no amount of fruit is going to fill you up if you think you're hungry.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    magic Jan 13, 2014 05:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    You have to do what works for you.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Me, I'm probably gonna have an apple or some blueberries and move on with my day....

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Kontxesi Jan 16, 2014 04:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  That's what our leader said. If an apple is 2 points and this bag of WW chips or cookie crisps is 2 points, a lot of people are going to pick the cookies.

                                                                                                                                                                                  At least, a lot of people with the eating habit problems that will land them in WW in the first place. I don't remember eating much fruit at ALL the first time I did WW, when fruit had points.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I do count it when I make smoothies, though. I made one this morning with banana, pineapple, mango, and papaya. No yogurt or juice or anything, but I still put down 4 points for my 12-ounce serving.

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                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 13, 2014 03:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Well, as my leader always says, "Fruit didn't bring you here." So, although you should certainly be conscious of not overeating, better to eat an extra piece of fruit to assuage hunger than a bag of chips or cookies!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  weezieduzzit Jan 13, 2014 03:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  That's not always the situation, roxlet. I gained around 50 pounds in 4 months or so because of side effects from hormonal birth control whacking out my hormones and causing my thyroid to go haywire (hypothyroid.) I gained weight so fast it hurt, I keep gaining no matter what or how little I ate or how much I exercised. The man had to tie my shoes for me because I was retaining so much water it hurt to bend over. My eating habits had nothing to do with my weight gain- I gained and gained and gained while eating fruit and veggies, not chips and cookies. I've never been one to snack and have never been a junk food eater. Its the first time I've ever carried any extra weigh in my life. If anything I was always considered skinny.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Your hormones decide if you gain or lose weight, understanding how they work and how your body treats different foods can be really helpful, if nothing else it can keep you from sabotaging yourself.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 13, 2014 03:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    That's terrible! But I would bet that you are the exception rather than the rule. Hope you are better now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      weezieduzzit Jan 13, 2014 03:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      It is what it is. it just has to do dealt with. Thyroid and hormones play a major role in weight regulation, though. My situation was extreme, other people have more subtle irregularities that make it easy for them to gain, difficult to lose or both.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm better now (I don't gain any more,) but I get to lose the weight just like everyone else. Unfortunately it doesn't just disappear when the problem is solved! :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 13, 2014 03:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Yes, too bad, indeed!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    juliejulez Jan 13, 2014 04:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh yes... having an apple instead of snacking on chips is of course better... but to eat tons of fruit to avoid feeling hungry, isn't the way to go. Better to evaluate your meals and figure out why you're hungry.... and even furthur, evaluating yourself to decide if you're truly hungry. I know I have had (and still do) have issues with thinking I'm hungry... when it's really just boredom or being used to eating, even when it's not needed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  weezieduzzit Jan 13, 2014 02:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Fruit sugar= fructose

                                                                                                                                                                                  An interesting bit of info on fructose and weight loss that includes a link to a peer reviewed study, just skip them pushing paleo and just read about fructose, leptin and insulin:

                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.paleodietevolved.com/1/pos...

                                                                                                                                                                                  If you learn about HOW your body loses fat and what hormones play what part you'll see why eating a lot of fruit is not the best choice when trying to lose fat (fat, not "weight" which may be catabolized muscle from eating at a calorie deficit.)

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                                                                                                                                                                                    magic Jan 13, 2014 02:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm not sure if it's the best choice, but it is hard to argue that it's not a good choice. And if someone thinks fruit is a poor choice, then I'm not sure why they'd committ to WW in the first place since WW encourages you to fill up on 0 points fruits and veggies.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks for the link, will definitely read....

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                                                                                                                                                                                ziggylu Jan 13, 2014 07:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                This recipe from Jerry Traunfeld converted me from disliking cauliflower. I make it a lot in the winter and have served it at dinner parties to lots of compliments. The dill and apple really work with cauliflower.

                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.cookstr.com/recipes/roaste...

                                                                                                                                                                                On the subject of cauliflower...does anyone have any experience with making cauliflower crusts? Good or bad?

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                                                                                                                                                                                  weezieduzzit Jan 13, 2014 07:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  It takes some work and some patience for a good cauliflower crust. The cauliflower has to be really well drained- and I'm talkin' dried out- to get a nice crisp. Also, adding parmesan instead of or as part of the cheddar or other cheese like some recipes call for will give you a much crispier crust if you're making cauliflower crust pizza. It took some playing with but I've made cauliflower crust pizzas that you can hold with one hand, just like you would a regular slice. It also needs to be cooked a longer time at a lower heat to really evaporate any moisture out without burning it.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Here's a pic:

                                                                                                                                                                                   
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                                                                                                                                                                                    ziggylu Jan 13, 2014 11:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks. Do you drain the cauliflower over night?

                                                                                                                                                                                    If you have a recipe to share I'd be appreciative. I've never tried making one but my DH misses homemade pizza and loves cauliflower so I thought I'd give it a try...

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                                                                                                                                                                                      weezieduzzit Jan 13, 2014 11:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Overnight is great.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't have a recipe, I found it on a low carb message board (I don't WW, I read this thread because there are some good ideas and a lot of great support.) If you Google cauliflower pizza crust I'm sure you'll find lots to choose from. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                      fldhkybnva Jan 30, 2014 10:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I tried this and it was awful but the flavor of the crust was great, just awful in form. I think you have to keep toppings very minimal.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        pine time Feb 5, 2014 08:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Me, too, fld...didn't care for the texture or smell. But then, I didn't like the famous (infamous?) black bean brownie concoction, either--smelled beans rather than chocolate!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Jan 13, 2014 08:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Thank you for sharing this recipe, Ziggylu! Looks delicious and will go on the menu for next week. Any good broccoli recipes?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        ziggylu Jan 13, 2014 11:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Herby, I don't get very exotic with broccoli. I like to roast it on high heat with olive oil and garlic and sometimes some chile flakes. I squeeze lemon on it when I take it out and season with S&P. If I'm feeling really fancy I'll grate some parmesan on it! LOL

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                                                                                                                                                                                          herby Jan 13, 2014 12:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I roast too and steam but later been thinking about salad I had a couple of years ago with a nice garlicy dressing. Have broccoli this week - I'll google and maybe something yummy and low point turns up :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 13, 2014 03:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Smitten kitchen has a broccoli slaw that I think you could adapt.

                                                                                                                                                                                            http://smittenkitchen.com/blog/2009/0...

                                                                                                                                                                                    4. herby Jan 11, 2014 02:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Happy to hear that all of you are doing well! Not so good over here. Went to the meeting this morning and another "plus" weigh-in. + 0.5 this week and I thought that I was doing rather well... Maybe holiday indulgencies are still catching up with me. Super disappointed but not giving up. Stocked on vegetables, have various proteins in the freezer and going to do some cooking/prepping for the week.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 11, 2014 02:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        That's not bad at all!

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                                                                                                                                                                                          valerie Jan 11, 2014 03:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Do not give up! .5 is not so bad!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            herby Jan 11, 2014 04:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Thank you for encouragement! .5 is not too bad but it is in addition to +3.3 last Saturday :( Oh, well.... Just finished marinating very lean piece of leg of lamb to slow cook tomorrow and baking oatmeal for week breakfasts. When I am prepared food-wise for a week, everything goes much-much better!

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                                                                                                                                                                                              ziggylu Jan 11, 2014 05:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Good for you, herby! Preparation can really help!

                                                                                                                                                                                              .5 isn't anything to worry about!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                herby Jan 11, 2014 06:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I also took a book out of library today - How to Make Almost Any Diet Work - maybe it will help :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                            saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 03:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Glad you're not giving up. I swear this is more mental than anything... hang in there!

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                                                                                                                                                                                              herby Jan 18, 2014 05:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              I am hanging in here :)

                                                                                                                                                                                              Made ratatouille this morning for next weeks egg white frittatas, very nice black bean salad with green bean and sweet potato - drastically reduced oil in both recipes- and put extra cooked black beans in the freezer - might make Cuban soup, refried or whatever later. Blanched broccoli and green bean just to have on hand for easy sides. Tomorrow will make some protein, not sure what yet but it will come to me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 06:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Great! You're really setting yourself up for success with all that planning and prep! Which reminds me... I have two big bunches of broccoli rabe to blanch for the week. Tomorrow's task, along with roasting some slices of cabbage and other veggies!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  roxlet Jan 18, 2014 07:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Those sound great!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    herby Jan 18, 2014 07:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thank you! I love this ratatouille from River Cottage VEG - roasted veggies combined towards the end with a simple but flavourful tomato sauce. The bean salad is a bit too sweet for my liking; it is by Crescent Dragonwagon so what to expect but sweet :) I'll calculate points tomorrow.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      roxlet Jan 18, 2014 07:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Would you paraphrase the ratatouille recipe?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby Jan 18, 2014 08:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Of course!

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Preheat oven to 375F; slice veggies into 1" cubes and onions into 1/4" slices from root to top:
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2 med onions
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2 med bell peppers, any colour (I used red this time)
                                                                                                                                                                                                        400g zucchini (3 small)
                                                                                                                                                                                                        350g eggplant (1 medium)
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Toss with 5T olive oil (I used 2T), salt & pepper and roast for 1-1.5 hours stirring now and then. Veggies will be reduced, tender and a bit brown.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Make sauce while veggies are roasting.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        2T olive oil (I used 1T)
                                                                                                                                                                                                        3 garlic cloves, slivered
                                                                                                                                                                                                        28-oz can of tomatoes
                                                                                                                                                                                                        1 bay leave
                                                                                                                                                                                                        1 lg spring of thyme
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Salt, pepper and a pinch of sugar

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sauté garlic in olive oil until fragrant, add tomatoes and herbs, and simmer breaking up tomatoes for about 45 min and season.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        When veggies are done, add tomato sauce, mix well and return to the oven for 10 min. I added veggies to the pot with the sauce and stirred for a bit on the stove top until all flavours mingled. Added about half of finely chopped habanero for a good measure just because I love things spicy and about 1T thyme leaves.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 19, 2014 06:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          That sounds very good but quite saucy. You could probably use it over pasta, but is it too saucy for a frittata? Curious about this!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            herby Jan 19, 2014 08:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            It saucy but not runny if you know what I mean. Veggies do not have lots of liquid left in them after roasting (but not dry) and sauce is thick after simmering for 45 min. I am planning to make frittata tomorrow and will let you know if it works well or not. Could serve it over pasta and it is delicious as a side dish. It is my go-to ratatouille since I "discovered" the recipe :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              ziggylu Jan 19, 2014 10:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              If it doesn't work in a fritta it would be quite tasty I think with a poached egg on top! mmmm...need to pick up some veggies to make some.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                herby Jan 19, 2014 12:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                For sure, sort of take on shakshuka :) I am trying to use up egg whites = frittata.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                jarona Jan 11, 2014 07:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Well, thanks to a 20 pound weight gain (how DID that ever happen?), and my lifetime membership, I revisited last week. Following the Simple Start and have lost 5 pounds in a week..I'll stick with Simple Start for next week, and then go back to counting points. I purchased the "20 Minutes" cookbook and it is epic! Made the Indian Spiced Pork Medallions with Okra (but subbed spinach instead) last night. It was fantastic!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  magic Jan 11, 2014 10:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  5 pounds!!! Wow. Congrats.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Welcome back! Looks like you made the right move :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 11, 2014 11:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've been eying that book. Glad to hear that you made something good from it!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      valerie Jan 11, 2014 02:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      5 lbs is great!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. saturngrrl Jan 11, 2014 07:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Popping in to say hi and check in... I see I have a lot of reading to do, since I've missed this thread for a couple of weeks! Happy New Year to all. I let myself eat "unchecked" from mid-December to Jan. 2. Guess what? I lost 2.2 lbs. Surprised even me! LOL!

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I haven't yet had the Simple Start indoctrination, but I did download the app. I dunno. I think I'm sticking with what I've been doing... if it ain't broke, right? I'll hear more next week at our meeting, and our leader thinks I should try it for at least a week... and I may, if I can figure it out. But like I said, if the "old" way is working, why mess with it?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hope you are all doing well and having success. I'm at the point where I'm almost at goal, and feeling confident that I'll get there soon. More importantly, I'm feeling really confident that I can maintain my weight loss. It feels really good to be able to buy and wear clothes in size 10 and mediums instead of 16 and extra large!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 11, 2014 10:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        2.2 loss over the holidays?!

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I dislike you ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 02:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I know. I'm horrible and definitely worthy of dislike. LMAO! :-) But I am FIERCELY determined to get to goal and make Lifetime... something I truly never thought possible. Now, I'm so close I can TASTE it! :-D

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 11, 2014 11:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I betcha it wasn't "unchecked." I'll bet there was subconscious tracking going on! In any event, congrats and welcome back.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            saturngrrl Jan 18, 2014 03:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yup. You're right. I find even on days that I don't bother to track, I make much better, healthier choices... including making sure there is some healthy oil, low-fat dairy and plenty of fruits/veggies in my day. I think this damn program is ingrained in me now and it's WORKING its evil magic as intended. How about them apples!?! ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          ziggylu Jan 9, 2014 07:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          -2.8 tonight. I feel like i"ve been stuck for so long but...looking at my book I'm down 5 overall since Dec 5 so...given it was the holidays I feel stupid for being frustrated...Good reminder to keep an eye on overall trends and non scale progress rather than getting caught up on the weekly ups and downs of the weigh-in.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Several folks tonight who saw success with Simply Start over the week.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Onward....!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 9, 2014 07:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            That's excellent! Congrats, and yes, onward!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              valerie Jan 9, 2014 07:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's great!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                magic Jan 10, 2014 06:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Woohoo!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  saturngrrl Jan 11, 2014 07:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Congrats! Great job. And I agree... this takes TIME and getting worked up (either way) over one week's weigh in is not worth it. Perseverance is key to this, I've found!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. roxlet Jan 9, 2014 09:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Well, today turned out much, much better than expected. I managed to lose a pound, which may not sound like much, but given the last couple of months, feels good. I also discovered this week that the Simple Start is not compatible with my life since my husband does a lot of the cooking (ok, most of the cooking), and it's hard to fit the suggested meals into that scenario.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  On another note, does anyone here use the computer to track? All of a sudden, I cannot log in on either Safari or Chrome. I spoke with customer service, and they say that they know about this, and are working with the engineers at Apple and Google to rectify it. Has anyone else experienced a problem logging into the WW site with Chrome or Safari? They have given me a 2 week credit, but it's a PITA because I hate having to track on my phone, and I refuse to do it on paper.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ziggylu Jan 9, 2014 10:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yay on being down a lb! Did you do SS for the whole week? I haven't tried it yet but might next week once the dining halls reopen and I have more options for lunch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I hate tracking on my phone so I understand your frustration. I haven't tracked on WW for a bit now(before Christmas) but I'd be mighty bugged if I were trying right now. I hope they get that fixed soon...what a terrible time to run into a bug like that, right in January with all their new members.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Last night we cooked up some turkey patties from Costco. Very very lean and dry. Will need to do something with them next time like cook with marinara or green chile sauce. But with a salad and some refried beans they made for a low point/calorie dinner at least.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      roxlet Jan 9, 2014 12:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      No, I only did SS for a couple of days. It quickly became apparent that it wouldn't work for my life.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      magic Jan 9, 2014 10:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yay!!!! More good news! That's great roxlet!!! Nice.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I view WW online with Firefox so no probs for me when viewing with that. When I view with IE though recently it never seems to remember me and I have to re-login every single time. Annoying. Firefox is ok though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't use the online tool to track anyways. I use a piece of paper haha. I like it better that way.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        saturngrrl Jan 11, 2014 07:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have issues with the WW site on Firefox on my Windows laptop at home... I can log in and navigate, but when I try to look stuff up in the database and track, there are problems with not being able to see the whole line of text and/or being unable to scroll or flip to the next "page." So, I just switched to IE, but only for WW! LOL! I hate IE in general... and it is also our preferred browser at the office. *sigh* As great as technology is these days, all the little glitches and weirdness gets maddening!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          magic Jan 11, 2014 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah the WW site attempts to offer a lot of functions but in doing so obviously has its user experience issues. I find it's a tougher site to use, although it looks like they are at least trying.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 11, 2014 11:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That's funny -- I finally got the site to work by downloading Firefox! Still no luck on either Safari or Chrome...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          valerie Jan 9, 2014 11:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          A loss of a pound is great!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I do most of my tracking on my phone but I use Chrome when I am at work and I don't have any problems.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 9, 2014 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Have you used Chrome recently?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              valerie Jan 9, 2014 04:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think I used it this week at work. I will check when I am in my office next, either tomorrow or Monday.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 9, 2014 07:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks. I find it hard to believe that WWers who use Chrome or Safari are unable to use WW on line. I'm going to get back on the phone with them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ziggylu Jan 9, 2014 07:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Roxlet
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I use Chrome on my laptop at home and just signed into the WW site. I was able to track my meals for today with no problem.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Stupid question but have you tried clearing your cookies?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 10, 2014 04:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, I've done that, and it hasn't helped. Maybe the person I spoke to at WW was just blowing me off and didn't want to deal with solving the problem. I will definitely call them again and see if I can get this working again. Glad to have confirmation that it works for someone.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          valerie Jan 9, 2014 08:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I finally got my self on the scale (at home) and it was not so horrible! Only .8 up from where I was right before Thanksgiving. I'm feeling extra motivated to take that bit off and keep going.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            magic Jan 9, 2014 08:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That's amazing!! Isn't it funny how things work out sometimes. Nice!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ziggylu Jan 9, 2014 10:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's nice!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. eviemichael Jan 7, 2014 09:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Happy New Year and bravo to everyone dedicated to counting points and staying healthy after the holidays!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              After arriving in the States on the 20th and finding out I was pregnant, I maintained my weight until a few days before New Years...unfortunately I've put on 5lbs since then, and it is not from the baby, which is currently the size of a pea.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              He/she seems to have an appetite for lots of sweets and heavy Chinese food....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I return home this weekend and I'm hoping to get back on track then. I'm going to stick with points + rather than trying the new plan.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                coll Jan 8, 2014 05:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Congratulations! Seems like only yesterday you were planning your wedding feast.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  eviemichael Jan 12, 2014 01:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks coll and roxlet!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm back home and will be making lentil soup tomorrow. 6 points!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    coll Jan 13, 2014 05:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm trying to live on mostly soup the rest of the winter myself. Last night I made split pea and also a Brazilian style black bean with mango and sweet potato (found here). We'll see how it goes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      eviemichael Jan 13, 2014 03:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The black bean soup sounds amazing! Too bad I'm allergic to mango. :-/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I broke down and had some pizza today...yuck. Feeling a bit gross, hope I get back on track tomorrow.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 13, 2014 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Pizza can be on program, so don't worry!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          eviemichael Jan 16, 2014 02:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I ate way too much! I'm craving pizza every day...but yesterday I had beef stew and today I am making okra with baked feta. I deserve a gold star, right? ha.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          weezieduzzit, I will try it with peaches, thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Kontxesi Jan 16, 2014 04:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Every time you guys say that to me, I just laugh inside. "It's so cute how they think I can limit myself to one or two slices...." :p

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My mom and I were talking about it last night on the way home from our meeting. Our small town has almost every major fast-food chain (McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, Taco Bell, KFC, Arby's, Domino's, Papa John's, and a brand new Pizza Hut) and no "healthy" places to eat. Unless you count Subway? But I would put that under fast-food, honestly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Anyway! She was saying that fast food was definitely what got her to wear she is now. Even if she had just eaten/didn't need to eat, she'd find herself pulling in to McDonald's or Wendy's just because it was there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Me... I'm where I am because of pizza. At one point, in my late teens I think, I was ordering pizza about once a week (and usually eating one by myself). I looked back at one point and realized I'd spent over $600 on pizza in a six-month period.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              eviemichael Jan 16, 2014 05:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I can relate Kontxesi. And it's even worse for me now ...why can't I crave fruits and veggies?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              All. I. Want. Is. Pizza.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              We have this great Italian place too that delivers beautiful margarita pizzas- it is just fantastic.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Today was another battle, but I ate an orange, 20 almonds, Greek yogurt, and I'm making okra with feta tonight...sigh.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 16, 2014 09:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I have never eaten fast food pizza in my life. I remember that when we were in Egypt, my son and I were meeting some people at Pizza Hut, so we ordered a pizza. We each took one bite, looked at each other, and he said, "Let's get out of here." The people we were waiting for arrived just then, we gave them our pizza and went somewhere else to eat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  eviemichael Jan 17, 2014 02:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ew, yeah Pizza Hut is really gross. I prefer well made pizza, but at this point I wouldn't turn down a greasy pie if it propositioned me. ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Kontxesi Jan 28, 2014 07:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I would love to be able to say that. I grew up somewhat poor (not for lack of income; my dad just spent it on everything except the necessities) and my mom suffers from depression. Those two things came together to create a lifestyle full of Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and junk food. :( My teeth are still punishing me for it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    But Pizza Hut IS nasty, for real. I loved it when I was a kid, and look back on the Book It! program fondly. But the few times my fiance has dragged me to one recently, I've been so underwhelmed (not to mention sick the next day).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      coll Jan 29, 2014 05:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I didn't know you could get sick from pizza, but my friend forced my husband to eat some Pizza Hut while I was out and he had such bad indigestion. Usually can handle anything, it was scary!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Kontxesi Jan 29, 2014 05:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have that reaction to most national chain pizza (I felt terrible this morning after eating Sbarro's last night) but Pizza Hut definitely takes the cake. I'm miserable until at least noon the next day.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I don't seem to feel ill after non-chain pizza, for some reason. I'll have to pay attention next time and see if I'm making that up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          coll Jan 29, 2014 05:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh us too! We have at least six or seven pizza joints within five minutes, and pick up a pie at least once a month; but my friend refuses to eat that kind of pizza. She's not from NY so I'll cut her a break before judging ;-) My husband managed to survive.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            saturngrrl Jan 30, 2014 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ew, I think Sbarro's is even worse than Pizza Hut! And I actually LOVE Dominos thin crust, especially the Pacific Veggie variety. But I'm completely spoiled by Frank Pepe's (a New Haven, CT legend that opened a branch about 10 minutes from my home a couple of years ago!). I pretty much only order their white shrimp pizza. I still enjoy it, even on WW. The difference is that pre-WW I used to eat more or less an entire small pizza myself. Now I can just have two pieces and be satisfied.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Kontxesi Jan 30, 2014 11:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Sbarros was kind of an act of desparation.... I'd left our packed dinner at home on the counter, and I had to pick something up at the mall for us to eat. :( It was yuckily sweet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 30, 2014 12:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Do you refer to the Yonkers location? I'm pretty near there too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    weezieduzzit Jan 13, 2014 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I bet peach would work instead of mango, of course I'd wait until they're in season.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hickory Jan 20, 2014 07:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hi Coll, could you possibly post a link to the black bean soup? After a long absence, I'm back at WW and started Simple Start on Saturday.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      coll Jan 21, 2014 03:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sure! I got it here on another thread just a week or two ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Brazilian Black Bean Stew
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      6 servings

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1 Tbs. vegetable oil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1 large onion, chopped
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2 medium cloves garlic, minced
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2 medium sweet potatoes (1 to 1 1/4 lbs.), peeled and diced
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1 large red bell pepper, diced
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      14.5-oz. can diced tomatoes
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1 small hot green chili pepper, or more to taste, minced
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2 (16-oz.) cans black beans, drained and rinsed
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1 ripe mango, pitted, peeled and diced
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1/4 cup chopped fresh cilantro
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1/4 tsp. salt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      In large pot, heat oil over medium heat. Add onion and cook, stirring often, until softened, about 5 minutes. Stir in garlic and cook, stirring, until onion is golden, about 3 minutes.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Stir in sweet potatoes, bell pepper, tomatoes (with liquid), chili and 1 1/2 cups water. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat to low, cover and simmer until potatoes are tender but still firm, 10 to 15 minutes.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Stir in beans and simmer gently, uncovered, until heated through, about 5 minutes. Stir in mango and cook until heated through, about 1 minute. Stir in cilantro and salt. Serve hot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        relizabeth Jan 22, 2014 07:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        that looks delicious

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          coll Jan 22, 2014 08:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I enjoyed it so much more than Cuban style! I had some pineapple left over at the time so threw a bit in too, it's very adaptable.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hickory Jan 23, 2014 10:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Belated thanks for posting!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            coll Jan 24, 2014 05:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We just finished off the rest of it last night, I think it's even better after sitting. And don't be afraid to throw a few pineapple chunks in, I think that was a nice touch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Also had a bit of leftover ham and greens which got thrown in too, of course that will add a few calories but a very adaptable recipe!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  roxlet Jan 8, 2014 05:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Congratulations!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                3. roxlet Jan 6, 2014 08:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am very upset with WW today! I haven't been able to access the mobile site on my computer for a couple of weeks, and when I called to deal with it today, I found out that neither of the two browsers I use (Chrome or Safari) is running the site. Supposedly, the engineers are working on it. It is only working on Internet Explorer, which I gamely tried to download (even though the last thing I need is another browser), but apparently IE isn't available for the Mac! So I guess I will be tracking on my phone, which I find to be extremely clunky. Argggh!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 08:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Gosh, annoying! I don't like using my phone to track(and I don't like Explorer though it's the only "approved" browser on my work computer). Hope they fix it soon!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've been using My Fitness Pal instead of the WW site the last few weeks. It links with my Fitbit so I like the coordination....it counts calories vs points though so has been an interesting contrast to the point system.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      roxlet Jan 6, 2014 09:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And how is that working for you?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 10:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's different. I like having a better idea of total calories as it includes the free stuff in the total count. It also gives you an estimate of how many calories you burn and your net calorie intake for the day. I like this as well as I was struggling to get a feel for budgeting weeklies with the WW program. Somedays I burn a ton of calories and others not so much so it's good to easily see that easily measured against my calorie intake for the week.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        WW is definitely a more simple tracking system though. I have a better idea in my head of what foods are "worth" in terms of points than in terms of calories. WW doesn't integrate with anything else though whereas MFP integrates with Fitbit, RunKeeper, and Map My Run all of which I use. I also got a notice at work today that all the nutrition information for all of our meals is going to be integrated into My Fitness Pal as of the semester opening next Monday so that's helpful too as I eat breakfast and lunch at work everyday.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I've been using My Fitness Pal on and off since Thanksgiving. We'll see this week what the scale says....All of my work pants are getting too big again which is a good thing but the scale hadn't caught up yet. I think both methods are equally effective actually...it still comes back to holding yourself accountable to what you're eating and portioning correctly.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          magic Jan 6, 2014 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for your insight on the differences. I've always been curious about myfitnesspal so that is good to know about.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So far WW has been great so I have no reason to try myfitnesspal at the moment... but definitely good to know.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I very much agree that it's largely about holding yourself accountable. Very true. Well said.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 6, 2014 11:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Very interesting. You still go to meetings, right?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 12:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes we go every Thursday night. I really like our meeting and the people in it(several lifetime members that have lost over 50lbs and are very motivational and helpful to other members). There's a lot I like about WW so moving to a different tracking system isn't about not finding WW helpful but trying to understand better what my net intake should look like. With the "free" stuff, the up to 49 weeklies, and the ability to use activity pts(which I don't typically do) it was hard to really pinpoint what a good average day's points should be.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 6, 2014 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Are you a scientist? :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 12:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  LOL! Far from it...I managed to get through undergrad and graduate school without a lab science actually! ( I guess I"m a trash expert but more on the behavioral change side than the science side!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mostly I was just getting frustrated in Nov of being stuck on a plateau so thought I'd try something else...it seemed to be working in early Dec and then the holidays struck! We'll see what happens in January. Points are a lot easier to count to be honest!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 6, 2014 01:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, once you get used to them!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    magic Jan 6, 2014 01:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Seinfeld?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      roxlet Jan 6, 2014 02:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      huh? Don't get that...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 6, 2014 04:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        "Are you a scientist?" was a small line in a Seinfeld episode. Thought you might be using it here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Nevermind me, carry on :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 6, 2014 04:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not sure I know Seinfeld in that much detail, though I liked the show a lot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            magic Jan 6, 2014 05:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It was a cute little moment :) No worries, roxlet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    magic Jan 6, 2014 01:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    As far as I understand it, your daily points are simply based on your age, height, gender, current weight, and goal (lose or maintain). The rest might be clarified via a WW pedometer, no??

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Am I wrong?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      roxlet Jan 6, 2014 01:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think points are based on gender and weight only. The number of points goes down as you lose weight. There is a base that they don't go below, and surprisingly (and depressingly) maintenance points are not that much higher than dieting points. At the end of the day, you just can't go back to your former eating habits, which is where keeping going to meetings comes in.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 6, 2014 01:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, to arrive at one's daily total I use my calculator. It asks 5 questions: age, height, gender, current weight, and goal (lose or maintain).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        All of which play a part in your unique daily total. Staff at my meetings require newcomers to answer these questions to arrive at their total, as does the online tool I believe.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The bottom base for points is 26 I believe.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 6, 2014 01:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I will ask at my meeting on Thursday. As far as I have ever been able to tell, the height and goal part of the calculations is just window dressing. The current weight and gender are the two key components since the points that they give you for weight loss vary in a very narrow band.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            magic Jan 6, 2014 01:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hmm, are you on points or Points Plus? I am on Points Plus.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            To me, age, height and goal are absolutely just as important for calculating your daily energy needs. They are in fact critical. For example, your daily points plus total goes down as you age (I believe every 5 years or so), whehter you like it or not - even if you stay the same weight it seems.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'd be shocked if they were just window dressing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            In any case, all this was in answer to ziggylu's uncertainty as to their daily points (plus?) total. To me there is no uncertainty and that is the beauty of WW. You know exactly what your total should be as long as you have these 5 pieces of information (and a pedometer to help clarify activity points earned).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              roxlet Jan 6, 2014 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Maybe you're right, I don't know. I am on points+, but I will definitely ask my leader on Thursday.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                magic Jan 6, 2014 01:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'd be suprrised if most leaders know that you lose points as you age. I only know as I've experimented with the calculator, inputting a variety of different scenarios. And it makes sense. You need less energy as your metabolism slows with age.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Leaders are great at high level stuff but for hardcore points "theory" I sometimes find leaders and phone support staff not as informed as I'd like.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I know that sounds bad, but that's how I feel :(

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  roxlet Jan 6, 2014 02:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mine is super informed. She's been doing this for 30 years, and is not only informed, but she's informed historically, if you know what I mean.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    magic Jan 6, 2014 05:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I hear ya :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    She does sound like an excellent leader from what I can tell from your posts.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 02:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So here's the thing....I'm at the minimum 26 pts and still need to lose another 35 pounds. Clearly at some point, calories need to reduce. For example, I can't eat the same amount at 250lbs as I can at 215lbs and expect to lose weight in both instances(unless I was losing too fast at 250 but then my metabolism will probably stall a couple months along the way)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So you have the 49 weeklies to use. Some people eat all of them and lose, some eat none of them and lose. Invididual metabolisms maybe. Add in activity and now there's a new variable...and do you use those activity points or not. Do you need to eat them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I found it all very ambiguous particularly as I don't lose weight in any kind of pattern. I've never been clear on how many of the weeklies my body likes me to eat. If I could correleate losses to similar weeks it might be clearer, but I'll lose 2-4 lbs in a week and then flat for a few weeks and then I'll lose a big chunk again. Overall the trend is definitely down and I'm doing the right things but I stalled pretty well in October and Nov and decided to try and understand better and mix things up a bit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's been an issue for my husband as well. He hit lifetime 8 weeks ago...and without trying has lost 10 more lbs. He's a runner and is in half marathon season. He runs 30+ miles/week along with yoga.. He keeps upping his points(he's up to 42 now) and still loses and still hasn't determined what his maintenace points should be. Last week was the first he finally showed a gain, but it was also the week after Christmas so he won't be eating much cheesecake this month! He decided to try counting calories as well to get a straight forward read on net calories.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm certainly not advocating for anyone to change methods. Both ways of tracking come to the same place and like I said, I find points easier to plan around and keep track of in my head.....it's the tracking that really helps with the success!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          magic Jan 6, 2014 05:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hmm, it's been interesting reading about your challenges.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          To be honest, I never thought about that kind of situation. I'm a guy. I started at 43 points and have gone as low as 36. The holidays set me back to 37.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My point is I have constantly adjusted my daily points total and have never sat flat at the bottom end of 26. So now you've got me thinking: How DOES one lose weight if they cannot adjust their daily limit - as I have been doing?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I basically have no idea. Actually, I have 2 suggestions – below.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          But first, I do know that many women have probably been in your situation (unable to go lower than 26 points) and have surely lost weight. Most WW followers probably are at 26 for some of their journey. So... it must still work even if you are at 26! One would think.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My advice would probably be:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Not use activity points you've earned.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Have weeks where you try not to dip into your 49 weeklies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That is what I do.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I work out and am fairly active but never use my activity points. That has helped me lose I am guessing. Many weeks I try not to dip into my 49 points. That has helped me lose I am guessing. Don't get me wrong, it's totally unrealistic to never dip into your 49 weeklies but if you have hit a plateau I might suggest that some weeks you try and use as few as possible - even none of your 49 weeklies. And don’t use whatever activity points you’ve earned.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Are these 2 approaches wise? I don't know but they have worked for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 05:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Interestingly, I think my plateau was because I wasn't eating enough. At the time, I was averaging 15-20 weeklies/week plus my daily 26. (I've been at minimum 26 since the third week on WW) I plateaued when I lost 30 and that was also when my activity levels really spiked up as I was getting fit enough to ramp up my mileage and add things like hiking back into my lifestyle. That's when I started to think about looking at calories in vs calories burned to see what was going on. For example yesterday I was active enough that my net calories was only 473....today, a work day, it's much higher at 1500. These of course are estimates and not exact but still reflect the difference activity can make....I haven't been able on the points system to pinpoint what a good daily average to shoot for might be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I"ve been trying the last two weeks to keep my average net calories between 1250 and 1400 to see what happens(based on MFP telling me an average net of 1250 will equal a 1lb/week loss for my gender, age, height, current weight and weight loss goals). 1lb is pretty aggressive, and a low daily calorie limit which is why I've been averaging a bit higher. I don't know how many calories per point so don't know how to translate that back to WW.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's all the same in the end. I'm having an easier time understanding this for now but it hasn't been long enough to say if it's more effective for me or not. I"m a middle aged woman so who knows what hormonal issues play into my weekly numbers as well. I swear men have it much easier. I want to (lovingly) slap my husband most weigh-ins. LOL As I said, the scale has been trending down over time and...my clothes continue to become too big for me(now the smaller ones I bought in Sept) so it's all good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              juliejulez Jan 6, 2014 06:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I know in summer of 2012 I hit a long plateau that was remedied by increasing my calories... 200 a day did the trick to jumpstart things again.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                magic Jan 6, 2014 06:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I've sometimes thought that helps too, yes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                magic Jan 6, 2014 06:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We all hit plateaus, for sure. Even men, trust me!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I didn't lose a pound over the summer. In fact I might have been up 1 pound and a half over the summer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                But then in Fall I started losing again. Not even sure why, I just did. Less weekend cottage feasts probably helped ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Like you've said, your overall trend is down and that is what matters. You're thinking, you're making adjustments, you're focused. That is why you've gone down and why you will continue to go down.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sounds like you're doing pretty well. We all have plateaus but doing well overall, getting to your goal and learning along the way. Good!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              magic Jan 6, 2014 05:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "I don't lose weight in any kind of pattern."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If I could sense any kind of pattern whatsoever for my own weight loss I'd sell that info to those at WW meetings, trust me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I hear you. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I will say that when I am focused, don't (or hardly) dip into my 49 weeklies, I lose. Not always mind you, but a high percentage.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ziggylu Jan 31, 2014 02:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm pulling this back up to give a better answer to your question from earlier this month, roxlet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      i've been using My Fitness Pal for my tracking for 8 weeks now. I've set it with a goal to lose 1lb/week. In those 8 weeks, I've lost 7.5 lbs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I was thinking I hadn't been losing at that pace because I've had a lot of ups and downs over those 8 weeks but decided today to look at the average and see what was really going on.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I've gotten used to calorie counting vs point counting and I like it now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Anyway, I was surprised to see the average is just about on target with what I have the goal set for and remembered you question so thought I'd update my response.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Really, it still comes back to actually keeping track with some method or another...!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 31, 2014 03:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Interesting! And agreed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        As long as you are keeping track, hopefully pre-planning, and holding yourself to your energy need limits.... that, I think, is the main thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 08:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Here is a salad we have made several times in the last week or so. It's a nice change from all the holiday food with the lemon flavor and the spiciness from the arugula I've been using:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  A mix of your favorite greens(zero pts)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2 dates per person(zero pts...i'm still amazed dates are free)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1/2 oz chevre per person(1 pt)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1/2 oz almonds, walnuts or pecans per person(2-3 pts)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  fresh mint(0 pts)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1 teaspoon meyer lemon olive oil per person(1 pt)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1 tlbs fig balsamic(1pt)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 6, 2014 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The dates are probably free within a certain limit -- like olives, for example.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes, probably. And as much as I love dates...it's a hard food to overeat as they are so sweet and rich. I've been counting calories lately instead of points so they are no longer "free"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I started having peanut butter stuffed dates as running fuel the last few runs...mmm...good stuff and effective too! Two of my favorite foods in one yummy and nutritious bite! LOL

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 6, 2014 11:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        When I was in Egypt, date shakes were a speciality in all the clubs where sports were played.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 12:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Date shakes are a specialty out here too! Not for sports though! I don't partake too often but make them sometimes at home with almond milk and almond ice cream(my Greek genes don't like taking in much cow's milk).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          We're lucky here on campus with a large collection of date trees, over 40 species so we get all kinds of dates not commonly found commercially in the US. I love date season!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Fargo Jan 9, 2014 10:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I hate to be a buzzkill, but only fresh dates are free, dried dates are 3 points per 1/4 cup :-( But that sounds like an awesome recipe and I'm going to try it!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ziggylu Jan 9, 2014 10:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        They are fresh dates. I get them here at the university where I work right after harvest in Aug/Sep and keep them in my fridge and freezer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm counting calories these days anyhow so they get accounted that way even if WW considers them free.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      valerie Jan 6, 2014 08:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ok, today is the day for me. Been slacking off (and ignoring this thread!) and feeling bad. Back to tracking, planning, thinking about what I eat. No more excuses!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 6, 2014 08:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yay!! You had some fun, back to the routine that has hopefully worked!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 6, 2014 08:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And no regrets, only new resolve!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            valerie Jan 6, 2014 11:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            No real regrets. But it just so hard to get back into the routine when you fall out of it!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So far so good today, though. Trader Joe's Pizza Veggie burger (3 points) for lunch on a light hamburger roll (2 points) with lettuce and tomato. I highly recommend those Pizza Veggie burgers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              rabaja Jan 6, 2014 11:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm going to look for them today. Thanks!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My default ww meal was always a chiken' boca burger on an alvarado bun with a slice of mozzarella. 9 points and for me, very filling.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I still like them but I'm on the lookout for new veggie burger options. The boca chiken' flavor tastes weird to me now. Not sure if it's me or the boca.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                coll Jan 6, 2014 12:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Trader Joe's also sells Dr Praeger veggie burgers, they are my absolute favorite and so, so healthy too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 12:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dr Praeger's are my favorite too. I find them periodically in the coolers(not the freezers) here at the Costco's in Arizona.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm not a big fan of the Boca Burgers so definitely prefer the Dr. Praeger, though it's more of a veggie based patty than soy(which is what I like about it)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    coll Jan 6, 2014 03:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Me too! Great plain with salsa on top for breakfast.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    magic Jan 6, 2014 01:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm jealous of those of you who live in cities with Trader Joe's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They have not come to Canada.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Just made a TJ run last week when in the States. Stocked up. Love the Thai shrimp gyoza and dark chocolate peanut butter cups. Among many many other things there. But I think that's another thread ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    valerie Jan 6, 2014 12:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have never been a fan of Boca burgers, something about the texture. I like Gardenburgers (original flavor) but I think I OD'd on them so now I like the pizza veggie burgers instead. They don't have cheese on them, rather it is mixed in. A little cheese on top would make it even better but I like to keep my points low at lunch.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      rabaja Jan 7, 2014 09:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I like the original Gardenburger too. I passed up the soy Boca at costco yesterday and the only Gardenburger they had was the Malibu burger, which lists brown rice as the first ingredient. -Not very LA, if you ask
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      me.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Off to TJ's today to scope out everyone's suggestions.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ttrockwood Jan 11, 2014 09:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh! The trader joes frozen "meatless balls" are really crazy good- and low fat, high protein. Its like six for a serving!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          rabaja Jan 11, 2014 10:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thank you! Getting there Monday.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ziggylu Jan 30, 2014 07:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I picked up some of these pizza burgers and we had one for a late dinner after weigh in tonight. I heated it up and put some marinara and a little cheese on it. Stuck it between a couple pieces of bread. Pretty tasty!. I think I still like the Dr. Praegers better but iwth the sauce and cheese this definitely takes care of a meatball sandwich or parmesan sandwich urge. Thanks for the recommendation!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          valerie Jan 30, 2014 07:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Glad you liked them!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        jadec Jan 6, 2014 01:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Morningstar's Spicy Black Bean burger is very good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ttrockwood Jan 11, 2014 09:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Boca burgers got weird at some point!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I like the "quorn" brand, and the classic garden burger. Dr praegers are too soft and squishy for me....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            coll Jan 12, 2014 06:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I've found the best way to do Dr Praegers is to bake on high in the toaster oven, until it crisps up a good bit. No way I can do them on the grill unless they're frozen solid! They all end up in the coals.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ziggylu Jan 12, 2014 11:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This is how we do them also. Pop them in the toaster oven on a high temp and cook on both sides until crisp. I like the crispy crust with the somewhat squishy insides when we do them this way!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                coll Jan 12, 2014 12:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Me too, and then I top with a spoonful of salsa. This is one of my favorite breakfasts!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Kontxesi Jan 28, 2014 07:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't think it's you. I wasn't ever a veggie burger person, but I picked some up a few months ago and was not at all happy with them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            There is a local company that makes No Bull Burgers (I think they're available from NC to CT in some stores, and you can also order online) and they are AWESOME! They retail for about $10/4 patties, but I can get them for free sometimes through work.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://nobullburger.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I prefer the original to the mushroom and garlic variety. The mushroom/garlic ones have a different texture that doesn't really work for me. I haven't tried the sun-dried tomato and spinach variety.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              rabaja Jan 28, 2014 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks for the tip. I've been enjoying the original Garden Burgers since that post, but it's nice to have some variety.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Veggie burger places are popping up around us out here, and I keep seeing smaller companies selling them at farmers markets.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I should sample more options out there, obviously there is a demand.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                saturngrrl Jan 30, 2014 08:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                These look interesting. How many PPs? Nevermind, I can calculate myself! :-) The only store in CT that sells them is about an hour from my house. But maybe I'll cajole my local Whole Foods into ordering some...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Kontxesi Jan 30, 2014 11:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The original ones are 3 PP. I didn't calculate the others.... I think the tomato-spinach ones might be 4; they are pretty carby, comparatively.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              roxlet Jan 6, 2014 11:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'll have to give them a whirl!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              saturngrrl Jan 11, 2014 07:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Great way to think of it! I agree. You can't change what happened in the past (or what you ate!), but you can do better today and tomorrow.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm so glad I found this thread. Very helpful, inspirational and motivating. I know I'm going to get to goal soon!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              juliejulez Jan 6, 2014 09:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Same here... and of course I come down with a cold... I always want to eat salty carbs when I'm sick. But, I will try to stick to my plan.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            5. herby Jan 4, 2014 01:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Went to the meeting this morning and was up 3.3:(( Not rally a surprise though didn't expect this much to gain. I am sure big part of this gain is missing three meetings. Also hope that part of it is water - wine and olives last night could've contributed their share - but we'll see next week. We have Smart Start and I am going to get myself organized over the weekend and try it this week for sure. I am worried a bit about portion control and might track in addition to eating mart Start way but maybe not. One woman at the meeting did a week on SS and lost 4.6 - obviously not all of it is fat but still impressive.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 4, 2014 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Very impressive. I've been doing a combo since just doing the Smart Start wasn't happening. I'm close, but no cigar.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  herby Jan 4, 2014 07:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Life interferes, doesn't it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ziggylu Jan 4, 2014 01:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Goodness...is everyone staying warm??? I almost feel guilty as it's in the high 60s here in Phoenix!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I love soups and stews...what WW friendly things are you all cooking up in this cold weather? I just finished up the collards and black eyed peas leftover over from New Year's day and am thinking about making something tomorrow to freeze off for the week....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  magic Jan 4, 2014 01:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My feet are freezing :(

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hot coffee! Kale in spicy tomato sauce!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ziggylu Jan 4, 2014 01:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm sitting here with a pot of Earl Grey if that makes you feel better! (Did enjoy a nice hike on the local mountains this morning though!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tell me more about Kale in spicy tomato sauce. I love greens and braise them all the time....is this a braised dish?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      magic Jan 4, 2014 01:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not even braised!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It only takes perhaps 5 minutes to make.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Just warm up whatever good tomato sauce you have on hand. When it starts bubbling add some roughly chopped kale and wilt for a minute or so until it reaches the texture you like.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      If you don't use a spicy arabiatta sauce, some crushed chili flakes and/or smashed garlic thrown into tomato sauce add some nice zip.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Delish, warming, and the only points come from the tomato sauce.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ziggylu Jan 6, 2014 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I had a ton of zucchini and summer squash in the fridge that needed a purpose so just sauteed them up with some onion, garlic, a can of spicy tomatoes. Going to bake some fish in this tomorrow night for dinner.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Not the same but similarly inspired!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          magic Jan 6, 2014 06:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nice!!! Sounds awesome :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 4, 2014 03:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Split pea soup since I have a ham bone left over from New Year's Day.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ziggylu Jan 4, 2014 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      MMM...I love split pea soup! Perfect for all that cold weather happening around the country and low in points too!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. roxlet Jan 4, 2014 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    If you're craving fries, here's a great-sounding low-fat method:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.splendidtable.org/story/ti...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Jan 4, 2014 01:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thank you for the link, Roxlet. Interesting method.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ziggylu Jan 2, 2014 09:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Well, well...up 1.2lbs tonight which actually surprised me as I did a lot of running, hiking and yoga in the past week. I did drink a fair amount of wine and as I mentioned above have been carb heavy recently. Still I"ve been tracking everything and should have been burning more than I was taking in despite the wine, etc. Hopefully it's some retention issues. I was really ready for a maintain this week and the gain threw me...ugh, this group of ten lbs has been so challenging.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That said, we didn't stay for the meeting as we had tickets for the basketball game...and didn't go prepared so had dinner there. This chicken rice bowl thing. The food is so bad at the arena and this is one of the few offerings that isn't a sandwich or pizza. In and out itself it wasn't too terrible and I would have been within my calories for the day...but...our row won burgers and darn it if I didn't eat 40% of mine! LOL Talk about not worth it and stupid decisions. Made it through the holidays without doing anything that dumb and then....*poof* there goes all intelligence! LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Just set my alarm a bit earlier than normal to get at least 4 miles in before work tomorrow! I"m going to spend all weekend burning tonight off...good thing I'd eaten light most of the day ahead of weigh in!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 3, 2014 06:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Delayed results, ziggylu, delayed results. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sounds like you might be in for a positive weigh-in next time around considering all the work you've put in recently.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ziggylu Jan 3, 2014 09:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well I slept through the alarm unintentionally but still got 3 miles in before work this morning. At least i got something in and my Christmas present Fitbit is telling me I made a good dent in today's steps!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yogurt and berries for breakfast. My assistants got a good laugh out of the burger story. "Who turns down free food?! Don't feel bad" I love college students!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          All my work clothes feel looser the last two weeks so something is happening even if the scale doesn't show it. I'll cut back on the carbs and wine and wait for the scale to catch up. In the meantime I was just going through the event photos from the 5k we ran on New Years and have to admit I no longer hate looking at photos of myself and am almost fascinated by how "normal" I am starting to look in them. Quite a change compared to photos from the holiday season last year.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 3, 2014 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh, that's just wonderful!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        jarona Jan 2, 2014 05:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, after tipping the scales with a 20 pound gain over two years, I'm ready to get that lifetime membership dusted off. Wednesday evening I will be attending and ready for that "smart start". Hoping it's as easy as the point system!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 2, 2014 06:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Smart start is just for 2 weeks, though you can choose to continue on with it if you like. I think I like tracking better, but I'm doing the 2 weeks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            pine time Jan 3, 2014 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Jarona, if you were a lifer during the Simply Filling times, this new quick start is similar--you can choose to do it or not: "filling foods" at whatever quantity you want, but you also have 7 Pts+ a day (use it or lose it daily) for indulgences. You can ignore all that & stick w/ only Pts+ if you choose. Good luck!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              jarona Jan 12, 2014 12:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm doing a little "mix"...Weekdays for the next two weeks. simple start. (but I still track and STILL write down the points). Weekends, I'm treating myself to wine. But..I've lost 5 pounds since Monday..and..I purchased the new 20 Minute cookbook--it has 70 Simple Start recipes. I've made the Indian Spiced Pork Medallions, last night it was the Lamb Chops and Balsamic Figs--both recipes were fantastic..and tonight it is Lamb Chops with Pistachio Cous Cous (my S.O will have the couscous--I'll have cauliflower mash).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                pine time Jan 13, 2014 07:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                wow, impressive--congratulations! A friend, who did Core back in the day, is happy with the Simple Start, too, and is again losing after a long plateau.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  jarona Jan 19, 2014 03:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Lost another three--Mid-week, I'll return to the point system. DIDJA KNOW--Flatout Flatbread has only 1 point???? Our guest leader at last week's meeting told us. Now I'm happy as a clam. 2 Laughing Cows are 1 point too...2 of those babies smeared on a flatout make a mighty fine snack or even light lunch when you have a little salad with it! The Simple Start is an emotionally uplifting program to set the WW food plan up for people because I'm assuming that one won't get too discouraged to lose 1 pound per week after that--just thinking out loud:) When Simply Filling came out, I wasn't crazy about it because I was so points obsessed...I should have given it more thought. I'm still so blown away by that 20 minute cookbook that I'm purchasing a couple as gifts!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 19, 2014 06:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I just bought the 20 minute cookbook. What have you made from it that you've enjoyed?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      jarona Jan 19, 2014 07:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Pork Medallions with Indian Spices; Lamb Chops with Rosemary and Balsamic Figs; Lamb Chips with Pistachio Cous-cous, The scallop recipe (the book is downstairs and I'm too lazy to run down and get it); grilled chicken with Watermelon Salsa...all are great and keepers!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            valerie Jan 2, 2014 03:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Happy new year to all!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            These past few weeks have been horrible for me! I feel like I just completely lost control and forgot everything I had been doing that was working...mostly tracking.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have been either off from work or working from home for the past 2 weeks and that has been especially challenging in addition to just the regular holiday stuff. Just a lot of meals out and a lot of indulgences.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I am truly looking forward to next week when I get back to my own routine of work (I work some days from home and some days in my office) and that routine keeps me on track. I had been taking my dog on long walks for excercise (for both of us!) and those walks have been infrequent (ok, nonexistent) these past 2-3 weeks. Between the weather and my kids being on school vacation, everything is just out of sorts for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So for me, the next beginning is on Monday. But still down 20 lbs. (or so?) since last January 1st. My next short-term goal is to keep it together and try to take off a few pounds before we go to Florida in February. I have to keep telling myself when faced with temptation..."just say no"!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              magic Jan 2, 2014 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Down 20 lbs is pretty damn amazing, that is something to definitely not forget.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And hopefully the worst of the holiday indulgences are behind us and we can look forward to several months of focus and progress.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I just got back from my meeting, and up again, but only .4, which is a victory given the way the last week went. Anyway, I'm starting in on the new program, and will try to make the first week of the New Year a losing one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                herby Jan 2, 2014 09:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Roxlet, talk a bit about the new program. I am very interested in it and not sure it will be offered in Canada and even if it is would love to hear your thoughts. I am going to the meeting on Sat and it will not be pretty... Anyway, I am determined to get going and think that something restrictive where I do not have to track (always an issue for me!) might give me a boost that I need.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  roxlet Jan 2, 2014 01:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The new 2 week program, called Simple Start, seems very, well, simple. It is based on the power foods lists, and you are supposed to be able to eat from those lists without weighing and measuring for the first two weeks. The program gives you suggested meals for breakfast, lunch, dinner and a snack, but it also allows you to build your own meal from the lists of power foods. You are allowed 7 points+ a day to use on other foods like cheese that is not non-fat, plus other treats. You may not carry those 7 points over to the next day, however. Use them or lose them. That's basically it -- it's not very complicated. I believe that there had been a previous program that allowed you the option of eating these foods instead of counting points.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    magic Jan 2, 2014 01:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Simple Start is definitely not for me. And yes, it is essentially identical to Simply Filling, but repackaged with some extra support and meal plans. A fine idea, but one I'm not too interested in.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I’ve done very well with WW precisely because I can eat "my food". And I have no intention of straying from tracking.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I actually love tracking. I am very detail oriented so tracking works very well for my personality.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Don’t interpret my insane 8.8lb gain as a sign that I’m need of a shake-up. Holiday aberration aside I’ve done very well in 2013 thanks to WW and I hope to seal the deal and become lifetime in 2014 for sure. Still very much on track, maybe delayed by a few weeks or a month.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    But thanks roxlet, I do appreciate it :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      magic Jan 2, 2014 01:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And you can ignore this entire post, roxlet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sorry, I misread and thought you were addressing me. I see now you're addressing herby.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oops!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 2, 2014 01:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That's ok! No problem.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          magic Jan 2, 2014 01:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Jan 2, 2014 06:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thank you very much, Roxlet, for the overview! I hope Simple Start will be offered here on Saturday. I love "simple" concept and suggested meals would make it simple to me. I need to "start" again since I did not do too well last year - under 10lbs since the end of September is not what I was hoping for and that was then, before the new weigh-in this Saturday. But determined to face the reality and get going; there is no turning back for me however slow this trip might be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      New year, new beginnings, and new us - cheers everyone :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Jan 3, 2014 06:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        According to the many in my meeting who are lifetime members, sticking with it is the key to success. My leader always says that if you had a bad week, you need the meeting. If you had a good week, the meeting needs you. Despite whatever ups and downs, and despite whatever roadblocks I manage to strew in my path, I'm sticking with it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby Jan 3, 2014 07:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I am sticking with it too :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          BTW, how was your open house on Wednesday? What did you serve? Did you bake anything spectacular? I am still thinking about that cake you made from Momofuku and bought a ring and strips and glucose sometime in December. Really want to make it :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet Jan 3, 2014 07:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The open house was wonderful, and surprisingly I was only up .4 for my weigh in the next day, which I attribute to having a diet Coke in my hand for most of the party. The meal is pretty much the same every year -- cassoulet, stuffed shells, home smoked turkey, ham, homemade rosemary rolls, homemade sausage and biscuit. I make a cheese cake, pecan tassies, and a selection of cookies each year. Not that creative since it's so much work to put together. I stick with things I can do on autopilot!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby Jan 3, 2014 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That is quite a spread! No reason to vary; I have no doubt that people look forward to it just the way they remember the meal from the previous year - I know I would :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ziggylu Jan 3, 2014 09:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Gosh that sounds wonderful roxlet. I've had cassoulet so few times since I lived in France about 20 years ago and love it so much. What recipe do you use...and for non holidays do you have a lighter version you could share?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  rjbh20 Jan 3, 2014 11:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Menu and photos are on the What's for New Years Day thread.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 3, 2014 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My husband, rjbh20, makes the cassoulet from Paula Wolfret's classic, The Cooking of Southwest France. It is not lightened up at all, so I just tasted a spoonful. The process begins in early December when he makes the duck confit for it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                pine time Jan 3, 2014 08:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'm a lifer, and I heartily 2nd the "stick with it" as the key to success. Once before, I was at goal nearly 10 years, thought I was "cured"--quit attending. Of course, I gradually added back all the weight. This time, at goal over 7 years, and it's still an adventure. Even if I get off course for awhile, I still do my mandatory weigh-in at least once a month (no more than 2 lbs over goal is allowed to keep "legal")--if I quit going, I know I'd re-gain. Tiny steps, forgive yourself when you goof up, keep working the program, and keep attending! All the best for a lighter 2014!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  magic Jan 3, 2014 09:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So that once a month weigh-in is key, it seems, to maintaining...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 3, 2014 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, no magic there, magic!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Jan 3, 2014 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wise words, pine time!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      pine time Jan 4, 2014 09:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks, Roxlet--it's a change of mindset from losing weight to changing a lifestyle. Did weigh in at goal today, so I'm in my 8th year. Whew.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      A friend, who's still in the losing mode, has been struggling mightily this past year. Today I said "but if you hadn't been coming all year, where would you be today?" and we both said she'd have gained a whole bunch, rather than had a slow loss, over the year. It's a roller-coaster, to be sure, but I'm better off going to meetings than not going to meetings--simple enough!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 4, 2014 09:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Wise words.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I feel there is much to learn from those like yourself who've been successful on WW for such an amazingly long time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 4, 2014 09:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow, your 8th year? Now, THAT is inspirational!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            valerie Jan 4, 2014 01:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, that is great!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ziggylu Jan 2, 2014 09:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Roxlet, I'm anxious to hear how the new start works for you! Can you post some of the lunch and dinner things you put together with it along the way? If I remember the Simple Start is essentially the same as eating only the Power Foods with 49 points for other items during the week?(Our brochure got lost in the holiday hubbub so I'll have to get another one...)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  magic Jan 2, 2014 09:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Up 8.8 lbs in a week and a half!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Haha, I gave myself a planned holidays free-for-all since I've had a really good introductory year at WW. Fully expected to go up and own it. But not that much!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  8.8 is insane. Some of that has GOT to be water, no way could that be all fat in such a short timespan.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So don't feel bad everyone. I'm sure none of you can claim a holiday increase of 8.8.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yikes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ziggylu Jan 2, 2014 10:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I read somewhere that sugar and carbs cause water retention so hopefully that should drop away fast! Don't panic and just stay the course!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I once has a 5+ lb gain in a week and asked if I could have a Bravo star for it as surely that had to be some sort of weekly record well deserving of recognition! (it dropped away fast the following week and was mostly water retention from hormones it seemed)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      magic Jan 2, 2014 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I heard the same thing, that carbs and sugar (or was it carbs and salt?) promote water retention. So I am hoping to God that's the case. I am a guy btw.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I had a horrific gain about a month and half ago of 4.2lbs. But by the next week it was all gone and then some. So that must have been largely water as I'd had some carb/sugar/salt explosions a few days prior to that horrific weigh-in.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I would be absolutely shocked if I dropped all the 8.8lbs in one week as I did with last month's 4.2lb gain. Still, some of that 8.8 has got to be water. So am staying the course, back on track (as I knew I would be) and hopefully a good chunk of that 8.8 will be gone over the next couple of weeks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hopefully. Deep breath.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        juliejulez Jan 2, 2014 10:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Definitely salt. I know if I eat even a slice of pizza (usually with pepperoni, ie very salty), I'll be up a few pounds the next day. Last night I had pasta and store-bought garlic bread (lots of salt!), so that didn't help.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm up even more today than I was yesterday. But, I've been at it long enough to know it's virtually impossible for a normal person to gain 2 real pounds of fat in a day!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          magic Jan 2, 2014 10:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That's what I'm saying. It's gotta be close to impossible. Same happens to me when I have pizza and salty cured meats and fishes near weigh-in days.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          But 8.8 in a week and a half.... jeez. That was truly jaw-dropping. I was quite bad (again, planned), to be sure. But that bad?!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It'll be very interesting to see how much of that was water.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ziggylu Jan 2, 2014 11:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            You would have to work really hard to eat an EXTRA 30,000 calories in one week, even at Christmas!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That said, I know I often see delayed results at weigh in, both good and bad. Weeks where I run a lot of extra miles and really burn a lot of calories, or weeks where I may have splurged a it more on what I'm eating, might not be reflected until two weeks later. So some of it is likely water and some of it cumulative holiday goodies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Drink lots of water, exercise and cut back on carbs....you'll likely see some of it drop away next week!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              magic Jan 2, 2014 12:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I find I often see delayed results, both good and bad, as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks, I am crossing my fingers it doesn't get worse (delayed results and all).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              But yeah, I think I'll be ok. Huge gain notwithstanding I feel great about what I've accomplished via WW this year and I know I'll be able to undo this holdiday season damage (holidays aside I'm normally super focused about tracking food and water and I excersize regularly).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              juliejulez Jan 3, 2014 09:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              By the way, between yesterday morning and this morning, I lost 2lbs. So drastic increases like that are definitely due to outside factors, not actual fat gain.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        magic Jan 13, 2014 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Update: 2 weeks later and I'm down 9.4.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thank. God.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Jan 13, 2014 06:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow! Congrats!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            juliejulez Jan 13, 2014 06:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Seeee? :) I like to look at my monthly averages instead of the daily or even weekly... so many outside factors can affect your weight on any given day.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ziggylu Jan 13, 2014 06:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Nice! I"m sure that felt good!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                magic Jan 14, 2014 06:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I felt like crying I was so relieved. Thanks all!! :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                rabaja Jan 13, 2014 08:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Fantastic!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Kontxesi Jan 2, 2014 05:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Since my normal Wednesday meeting fell on a holiday (again), I hit tonight's meeting, where they went over Simple Start. And let me tell you, some of those ladies looked like their worlds were crumbling! They just couldn't get a handle on it. "I don't understand. What am I supposed to do this week? Are we getting rid of points? Do we have to do it this way?" Some really panicked responses.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I didn't think it was that complicated. :-/ Then again, since this isn't my normal day, I have no idea if these are new people who were just getting used to the points system or if they were veterans.... Either way, I was surprised by the reactions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Up 0.6, for a total of 5.8 over the holidays. I'm not ashamed. I ate what I wanted to and I enjoyed it. Ready to buckle down and trim it off, though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 2, 2014 06:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't think it's complicated either!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            3. juliejulez Jan 1, 2014 06:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I hit my goal weight around last March, and then lost 2 more lbs after that. But now, as of the other day, I was up 7 lbs from my goal weight (so 9 total). A bit of a bummer but I have been eating absolute crap so I'm not really surprised. I get a bit bummed out when I can't eat whatever I want and not gain anything, but such is life. So, starting on Sunday, I'm back to my old ways... planning, pre-tracking, etc. Here are a few of the meals I have planned for next week:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://simple-nourished-living.com/2012/03/slow-cooker-chicken-thighs-osso-buco/ serve on top of 1 cup whole wheat egg noodles (this will make 3 lunches plus 1 dinner

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.kalynskitchen.com/2005/06/grilled-lime-and-chipotle-pork-chops.html serve with brown rice, and whatever veggie looks good at the store this weekend

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://bevcooks.com/2013/01/chicken-vindaloo-with-brown-rice/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.eatingwell.com/recipes/qui... Serve w/ broccoli

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Jan 1, 2014 06:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for sharing!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  saturngrrl Jan 11, 2014 07:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  "I get a bit bummed out when I can't eat whatever I want and not gain anything, but such is life."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  THIS!!! It IS life. And it's what I think I've finally learned to accept! :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And thanks for the recipe links! They look flavorful and AWESOME. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  pine time Jan 1, 2014 11:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  While I've been at goal for 7+ years, I've been gaining for the past year (had to raise my goal weight to stay "legal"). This year: back to basics, may try the kick-start program, and generally, just move more.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Kontxesi Jan 1, 2014 08:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Final number for 2013 is -27. Not quite what I was hoping for, but the last three months have been rough.... Ready to redouble my efforts! 143 days till the wedding.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My fiance said that starting today, I'm supposed to let him eat only one plate of food per meal. He's never really expressed any interest in losing weight before, so this is a good step. We'll see if he sticks to it. :) (I think his mom told him he needed to get on it so he didn't look huge in his tux. Not exactly my style of motivation.)

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