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Dec 30, 2013 10:14 PM

Tongue in Chinatown? Venison Heart?

Anyone know where I can get some tongue (preferably beef) in Chinatown? The only place I think I've seen it is at Happy Noodle Bar.

Also, does anybody know where I can get some venison heart in Philadelphia period?

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  1. I saw tongue sold in Philadelphia Chinatown this weekend in "Asia Supermarket" in the frozen section. I think "Grocery Market" also sells them.

    <The only place I think I've seen it is at Happy Noodle Bar. >

    Wait. You want the raw tongues so you can cook? Or do you want a restaurant which makes tongues?

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    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

      I wanted to try local restaurant's renditions. I've seen the tongue around quite a bit in the various grocers, but I'd like a place where I can grab a quick bite of tongue here and there when I'm not up for cooking or I'm out for a lunch. Seems like a dish that would be on a lot of menus... and yet I don't recall seeing it on many. Maybe I wasn't looking at the time?

      Thank you for the reply, by the way.

      1. re: Cnote11

        <I wanted to try local restaurant's renditions.>

        I see. I know for sure that E-Mei has a dish with pork tongue.

        "the dish shows a greater variety of ingredients: soy bean sprout, cabbage, dried chill pepper, pork, *pork tongue*, coagulated pork blood, pork intestine, and noticeable amount of Szechuan peppercorn."

        There is another Szechuan dish which is very famous and sometime have the tongue component. It has a Chinese name which does not translate well. Word for word, it is "Husband and Wife Sliced Lung" -- there is actually no lung in it.

        You can ask the Szechuan restaurants (like Four Rivers and E-Mei) if their versions contain tongue or not. What I do know is that the SangKee version has ox tongue:

        Sliced Ox Tongue and Tripe with Chili Sauce (Cold) $10

        Ironically, Sang Kee is NOT a Szechuan restaurant.

        I also want to say that restaurants like Ting Wong, Wong Wong, M Kee carry the beef tongue in the BBQ sections, but I cannot be sure, and I think they often in "limited" edition. They prepare it in the morning. If the dish run out, then so be it.

        I will head to Chinatown within a week and I can check out for you and see.

        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

          I thought the Fuqi Feipian name just means beef offal like tripe or tongue, which could be anything (but probably never lung)?

          1. re: PhillyBestBYOB

            I did a literal translation of "Fuqi Feipian", and stated that there is no Lung despite there is the word "Fei (Lung)". I just want the original poster knows that there is no lung in it.

            1. re: Chemicalkinetics

              Is there any word for offal in Chinese, or could Fei just mean offal in this context?

              Certainly lung has to be about the least edible offal I could think of!

              1. re: PhillyBestBYOB

                <Is there any word for offal in Chinese>

                Yes, there are a few words for offal.

                <Fei just mean offal in this context?>

                It has a historical context.

                A couple (husband and wife) started to sell beef offal street food. Their beef offal recipe was especially popular and earned the nickname: "Husband and Wife's Garbage Sliced" -- by the local kids.

                In time, this particular version has gained so much popularity that the Szechuan government classified it as an official/classic dish. However, "Husband and Wife's Garbage Slices" name is too vulgar, so the word "Garbage" was changed into "Lung" (In Chinese these two words have the same pronunciation).

                The wife died in 2002

          2. re: Chemicalkinetics

            Yeah, I saw that dish before but I'm not really looking for pork tongue. A lot of places (okay not THAT many) have fuqi feipian and it seems most don't have tongue in them unfortunately (and yes I'm aware of no lung!) It is a shame, and I think tongue and heart are two pieces of meat that go down very easily, and so I think a dish like fuqi feipian should be more mainstream here. Either way, you have me craving for some and I think I will directly ask to double check whether they have tongue or not.

            Nice look on the Sang Kee Noodle House. They seem to have many nice dishes but I always pass over them when thinking about where to eat. I haven't tried that place yet, and some of that might have to do with their numerous, numerous health violations. Perhaps one day I will give it a shot, just for the ox tongue.I pass it frequently when I'm running errands for school, so I don't see why not.

            Thank you for the all the great help!

            1. re: Chemicalkinetics

              Oh, did you add a part to the bottom? If not, then I failed to see it earlier. That would be lovely if you could see as I'm not currently in Philadelphia. To add to the list, I just remembered that Chili Szechuan does the Ox tongue and tripe dish as well. Again, thanks for all the help.

              1. re: Cnote11

                No problem. I can check a couple of familiar Chinatown restaurants to see if they make beef tongue/ox tongue. I am pretty sure that venison heart is unlikely because deer is not that popular in Chinatown.

                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                  Ah, the Venison Heart was just a tack on and not Chinese specific. I would expect that to be a longshot if I were asking that. Deer really isn't a meat I've seen prepared in Chinese cooking very often. Instead, I was wondering if anywhere in Philadelphia had venison heart on the menu.

                  1. re: Cnote11

                    :) You are right. My thought track started to venture into Chinatown after I focused on the beef tongue (I confused myself). If I know any venison heart, then I will let you know too.

                    1. re: Cnote11

                      I stopped by Chinatown, but only got to ask two restaurants. I asked Ting Wong and Ocean Harbor. Ting Wong said that they don't have any dishes with beef tongue. Ocean Harbor said that they typically do not have beef tongue dishes. However, they do usually have beef tongue dishes during the Chinese New Year (which will be end of Jan, beginning of Feb this year). The reason is that the word "tongue" sounds like the word "profit/fortune" in Cantonese Chinese. I stopped by Siu Kee Duck House (not Sand Kee). It does not seem like they carry beef tongue either. I didn't bother to ask.

                      I will ask around next time I am in Chinatown. If I find out anything new I will let youknow.

                      1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                        Good beef tongue (cold) sandwich at Famous 4th Street Deli. Not very Chinese though.

                        1. re: PhillyBestBYOB

                          Also George's in the Italian market has a veal tongue sandwich that is quite good

                      2. re: Cnote11

                        Stopped by and asked a few more (in person).
                        Siu Kee has said no about beef tongue.
                        E Mei and Four River also said no.
                        Chinese Restaurant - no.
                        Xi'an Sizzling Wok - no.
                        Ming River Sidewalk House has a marinated pork tongue dish -- pork tongue being the main ingredient.

                        So basically, at this point, I know you can get pork tongue on a regular basis from Ming River, or you can try to get beef tongue from Ocean Harbor during Chinese New Year. I would call ahead just to be sure for Ocean Harbor since it is not on its regular menu.