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Puffin3 Dec 30, 2013 11:10 AM

Yes restaurants come and go but really? All anyone reads here is how another 'hipster' style restaurant has gone 'TU' and about another 'new' hipster' restaurant is the latest greatest place to eat in BC.
Apart from being frankly boring someone someday ought to say "the king has no clothes'. But the 'restaurant culture' of folks who make a living either helping open or close restaurants don't want anyone to think the reason the five restaurants which closed down last week was anything but "bad luck". Bull!
There are a lot of reasons these 2/10 point restaurants don't last but among the top reasons is that 'hipsters' are fast becoming tired of 'pretending' the food they are being served for fifty bucks from a snarky/ironic UBC day student is any better than they can get at any Cactus Club for half that amount.
The 'grazers' are waking up and their wallets are drying up as fast as their jobs and these silly food outlets run by twenty year old managers and supported by the last of the parents savings are folding up.
The King really doesn't have any clothes folks and he doesn't eat at 'The ........you fill in the latest trendiest name. He also isn't dumb enough to leave his invisible 'Michael Kors' jacket there. The joint will be closed by morning.

  1. starlady Dec 30, 2013 11:34 AM

    What 5 restaurants closed last week?

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    1. re: starlady
      Sam Salmon Dec 30, 2013 12:33 PM

      No one remembers (!)

    2. waylman Dec 30, 2013 01:27 PM

      I have no idea what I just read.

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      1. re: waylman
        LotusRapper Dec 30, 2013 08:15 PM

        He's having a "good" time somewhere, doing something, is all I can gather ;-)

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          Puffin3 Dec 31, 2013 07:32 AM

          Apparently I 'touched a nerve'. More than half of restaurants go out of business in the first three years.
          Maybe you can explain why this fact remains.
          "Hello Mom? Is Dad there? Good. I was wondering if you could loan me enough money to open a restaurant? You remember Garry? He's back in town from Soth America and he's found a great location in 'Kits' to open a Peruvian food and Kimchi little hole-in-the-wall sort of 'Pop-Up' number. Everything is there already from when the 'White Moose On West Broadway' closed last week. We just need to print new menus and repaint the signs. The Chef and his friends will stay on and cook Peruvian and Korean and so will the people at the front. Garry says it will make millions then we can open more in Calgary and Saskatoon. Hello? Hello? Mom? Are you still there?".

          1. re: Puffin3
            LotusRapper Dec 31, 2013 09:38 AM

            LOL, OMG that was funny !

            And I think you're right about that for some of the restos.

            But this one I take as exception, and an endearing one too:

            http://thepieshoppe.ca/making-of-the-...

            And I wish the two girls nothing but a big success.

            1. re: LotusRapper
              Sam Salmon Dec 31, 2013 06:23 PM

              If they don't get rid of the big hairy dog that's often in residence the fines from the Health Board are going to break them.

              1. re: Sam Salmon
                LotusRapper Dec 31, 2013 06:27 PM

                Ya gotta love that hipster touch, using their iPhone's leveling app in addition to a regular level to measure a wall shelf :-)

      2. flowbee Dec 30, 2013 01:55 PM

        Awesome post! But last I checked, The Parker, The Acorn, The Union, The Farmer's Apprentice, etc were still going strong. I had a really great lunch at Burdock & Co. recently...I think that would be classified as a hipster restaurant? Pics & thoughts here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...

        But yay for drunken, unhinged, year-end proclamations! Everybody in the pool!

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        1. re: flowbee
          LotusRapper Dec 30, 2013 08:14 PM

          And off with yer clothes !!!

          (just kidding !)

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          bill_n_opus Dec 30, 2013 09:29 PM

          I'll tell what really is the problem ... we need editors around here!

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            kinnickinnik Dec 30, 2013 09:54 PM

            Here's an old gem that's more along the lines of what you're looking for - in biz since 1946, nary a hipster to be found, and a long way from UBC

            http://www.trollsrestaurant.com/index...

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            1. re: kinnickinnik
              LotusRapper Dec 30, 2013 10:59 PM

              Trolls still around ?!? Wow.

              Well I can think of a few more non-hipsters joints :-)

              http://www.abccountry.ca/giftcard/

              http://gotorickys.com/

              1. re: LotusRapper
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                Puffin3 Dec 31, 2013 04:52 AM

                http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tough...
                'BiBo' needs to get a better then 58% rating from Urbanspoon if they don't want to join the 50% + restaurant failure rate.

                1. re: Puffin3
                  Sam Salmon Dec 31, 2013 07:14 AM

                  Lorenzo is a great guy but his partner is a snob and guess which attitude rubs off on the Staff?

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                mendicity Jan 1, 2014 03:16 AM

                well-played :)

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                  rainey Jan 6, 2014 07:56 PM

                  Yay! I'm sooo happy to hear it's still there!

                  We lived in West Van in 2001 and we're headed up again in the next couple years. When my son was in middle school at Rock Ridge I used to go to Trolls and have a fried oyster sandwich (YUM!) and watch the ferries come and go then look through the gallery for a quiet afternoon before I headed up the hill to pick him up.

                  I can't tell you how much I look forward to doing that again.

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                  calf Jan 1, 2014 02:00 AM

                  What the heck is TU?

                  Economic fact: The turnover of restaurants in many urban cities—NYC for as one example—is also 50%. It's because of economic conditions and market structures. Hipsters are not so influential as to be the specific cause across multiple cities. That should be obvious.

                  As for Vancouver, it is a world class city but for various reasons it is not one that supports specialty restaurants very well. That is why Lumiere closed, for example. Similarly, what some of us call "hipster" restaurants have a larger client demographic in say, NYC and L.A., maybe Toronto, but not necessarily in Vancouver. The food can be actually really innovative and impressive—the ones that do succeed are routinely reviewed in those cities' local newspapers. I don't feel it's a loss that Vancouver doesn't have many of those kinds of restaurants—point is that it's often informative to understand what's going on in the bigger picture.

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                  1. re: calf
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                    Puffin3 Jan 1, 2014 05:27 AM

                    'The Pieshop' looks like it may have a chance.
                    Small footprint equals hopefully small rent/heat/utilities. The two women look like they are working very hard to make the business succeed. If they are consistently making first class products they really do have a chance.
                    But if they don't stop their extremely annoying habit of 'uptalking' they will loose business no matter how good the pies are IMO.
                    'Like grow up'.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj4EIG...
                    Obviously these two bimbos are not the 'Pieshop' women but their speech patterns are getting close. Even your basic 'twenty something' swinging their 'Beamer' past to pick up a thirty dollar pie is going to feel like they are in S. Cal in a 'TOYSRUS' store................OK I'll stop. You all get my meaning.

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                      Puffin3 Jan 7, 2014 05:22 AM

                      News Flash!
                      The 'White Moose On West Broadway' is reopening under a different name: It's now 'The Restaurant Formerly Called The White Moose On West Broadway'.
                      Better 'ring'? LOL
                      PS. The new menu has 'Kim-Per' tapas.

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