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Lunch Near Carlton Hotel, 88 Madison Ave?

LawnBoy06 Dec 26, 2013 08:15 AM

My wife and I are going to be in town this weekend for the Phish run at MSG and are staying at the Carlton Hotel. I'm looking for some recommendations for lunch on Saturday, and breakfast/brunch on Sunday?

I see that Shake Shack is within walking distance, and we've never been, so I'm assuming we should do that for one of the meals?

Thanks for your help!

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    LawnBoy06 RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 26, 2013 08:16 AM

    I should have noted that we'd like to stay within walking distance of the hotel and the MSG area. Thanks again!

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      MarieLuncheonette RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 26, 2013 09:10 AM

      do you have a budget or preferred cuisines? some ideas:

      the nomad
      the breslin
      the cannibal
      mad for chicken
      szechuan gourmet

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        LawnBoy06 RE: MarieLuncheonette Dec 26, 2013 09:36 AM


        Thanks for the reply. We won't be looking for anything fancy. Just something casual, and reasonably priced.

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          plf515 RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 27, 2013 08:22 AM

          One person's reasonable is another person's extravagant. Can you give us $ ranges, before tax/tip?

    2. coasts RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 26, 2013 09:50 AM

      this reminds me of a very funny post some time ago, again during a phish run, where OP was looking for the best restaurants to eat at while on LSD.

      you'll be near enough to Defonte's, one of the city's best sandwich shops. there's also Hill Country Barbecue, conveyor sushi at East (not superb quality by any means), Blue Smoke, all of Korea Town...

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        LawnBoy06 RE: coasts Dec 26, 2013 11:51 AM

        Coasts-- That's actually quite hilarious, though I doubt it was a serious inquiry that someone was legitimately asking for somewhere to eat while on LSD. Some stereotypes of the fanbase will just never go away I guess...

        Thanks for the heads up on Defonte's. Looks delicious. Hill Country is a good rec too. We've been to the D.C. location.

        Any particular spots in Korea Town that you'd recommend? Perhaps for a late night meal post show. I know Zimmern highlighted some spots in a recent episode, so I can use that as a guide, but I'd love to hear from a local's point of view too.

        Also would still like to hear thoughts on Shake Shack? Over hyped? Worth checking out? Having never been, I feel as though I have to check it out once right?

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          coasts RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 26, 2013 12:04 PM

          I did tour from '94-2001 plus a few more recent shows. Didn't try for tickets to this run but would kinda like to go one night.

          Definitely check out Shake Shack. I love their Smoke Shack burger with peppers and bacon, as well as the shackago dog. Skip the fries.

          In Korea town, I like shilla for cooked dishes and stews. They're open 24 hours.

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            LNG212 RE: coasts Dec 26, 2013 04:08 PM

            Don't know if you know that Shake Shack changed their fries. There's a big sign in the UWS location saying "you spoke, we listened" and hand-cut, twice fried fresh French fries. Seems like they are no longer serving the frozen crinkle-cut ones.

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              kathryn RE: LNG212 Dec 26, 2013 05:41 PM

              Fresh fries only at the GCT, UWS, and UES locations for now.

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                LNG212 RE: kathryn Dec 26, 2013 07:06 PM

                Interesting. I wonder why not everywhere.

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                  coasts RE: LNG212 Dec 26, 2013 07:19 PM

                  supposedly kitchen constraints and conversion. i guess it's a matter of time.

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          coasts RE: coasts Dec 26, 2013 12:13 PM

          I feel so foolish...I confused ecstasy with acid. Duh!


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            LawnBoy06 RE: coasts Dec 26, 2013 12:31 PM

            LOL! Wow. That is some entertaining stuff. I still can't believe they posted about a great place to eat while on "E." Who eats when they're on ecstasy anyway?

            Thanks again for the info. I think our day is shaping up as follows:

            Shake Shack (Lunch)
            Rattle & Hum and/or Ginger Man for some great craft beer before the show
            Koreatown (Latenight) or do some pizza (Is there anywhere in the area that does legit pizza that doesn't cater to the tourist crowd that'd be open late)

            Still undecided. Probably not going to do a sit down brunch now that the weather looks nasty for the drive back to Baltimore. The sandwiches at Defontes look like they'd do the trick. Or, is there a top notch bagels & lox spot in the area?

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              coasts RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 26, 2013 07:23 PM

              for what it's worth, the crowd at both Rattle and Hum and Ginger Man can be a bit fratty. if that's not your thing, you might consider Breslin for one of their cask ales and a lamb burger. they make one of the best off-lot grilled cheeses, although, they're well more than a buck.

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                LawnBoy06 RE: coasts Dec 27, 2013 06:27 AM

                Thanks Coasts. The fratty scene is definitely not our thing. We'll consider the Breslin. Although last time we were in town, we did do the Ginger Man and had a great experience. I was really impressed with their selection, and it was relatively quiet as we set up shop there early afternoon. The only other people in the place were Phish fans, so we were lucky not to experience any of the douche-baggery that's been rumored to frequent there

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                  LawnBoy06 RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 27, 2013 07:07 AM

                  Thanks everyone for helping us get our eating/drinking options set so far. The only other option we may be looking for a recommendation for would be for late night pizza (if we're not up for Koreatown), and for a great bagel and lox joint for the morning.


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                    MVNYC RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 27, 2013 07:55 AM

                    Rattle N Hum gets a lot of the Phish crowd every year for the shows. Definitely not "fratty". Ginger man however is very douchey.

                    Late night Korea town is a great choice. Better than any pizza in the vicinity.

                    Not sure about bagels in that area though

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                      LawnBoy06 RE: MVNYC Dec 27, 2013 10:52 AM

                      Thanks for the heads up. Maybe we'll settle in at Ratlle N Hum this time around, since we did Gingerman last time we were up for a run.

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                        MVNYC RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 28, 2013 08:39 AM

                        Rattle N Hum sometimes shows pay per view feeds of phish concerts.

          2. Spiritchaser RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 27, 2013 07:21 AM

            Breslin for breakfast on Sunday especially if you can do early; the steak and eggs with salsa verde is fantastic. For a really inexpensive but great lunch/mid afternoon meal hit Num Pang (Broadway location).

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              LawnBoy06 RE: Spiritchaser Dec 27, 2013 07:48 AM

              Wow. Num Pang looks great. We'll probably be on the run and not have time for a sit down brunch, so that could be the winner...

              Still looking for pizza late night and a bagel shop for the morning just in case...?

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                plf515 RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 27, 2013 08:24 AM

                Pizza - go to Pizza Suprema, 8th avenue and 32nd (not far from the Garden). Open until midnight

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                  LawnBoy06 RE: plf515 Dec 27, 2013 10:51 AM

                  Thanks for the pizza rec. Checked out their website and liked what I saw. We'll probably still aim for Koreatown late night, but, you never know when a craving for a good slice will come about. Especially when you're from Baltimore and don't exactly have great access to the best NY style pizza

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                    plf515 RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 27, 2013 03:38 PM

                    One thing about Koreatown is that many of the restaurants are open 24 hours.

                    For a restaurant that is a little higher class, on a much higher floor, and with a great view, try Gaonuri on 6th Ave.

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                  Ttrockwood RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 28, 2013 03:40 PM

                  Go to russ and daughters for bagels and lox sandwiches to go (no seating there anyhow) for the morning you leave

              2. Berheenia RE: LawnBoy06 Dec 27, 2013 01:05 PM

                Have stayed in that neighborhood often I like Penelope's on 30th and Lex for lunch and brunch but there is always line for brunch Sunday. A good back-up is Les Halles on Park very near your hotel.

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