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jrvedivici Dec 19, 2013 09:10 AM

Whole foods is pulling Chobani Greek Yogurt from it's shelves...?


See.....that's why I never touch that "health food" stuff, that shit's going to kill you!!

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    beevod RE: jrvedivici Dec 19, 2013 09:14 AM

    Gotta love the whole health food scam. America's a great country.

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      MVNYC RE: beevod Dec 19, 2013 09:28 AM

      Food that is healthy is a scam?

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        GH1618 RE: MVNYC Dec 19, 2013 01:59 PM

        A claim that food is healthier because it is free of GMOs is either a scam or a delusion.

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          thimes RE: GH1618 Dec 19, 2013 02:01 PM

          All things being equal I'm taking non GMO - if only they would label it so I could be sure :D

          sorry couldn't help myself, I know there is a GMO thread going on somewhere around here . . .

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            Chemicalkinetics RE: GH1618 Dec 22, 2013 01:12 AM

            I guess there are two ways to look for the scam in this case. First, as you have said: food claims to be free of GMO is the healthy choice -- Scam. Second, food labeled to be healthy turned out to be made from GMO -- Scam.

            In the first case, Whole Food supermarket is the scammer. In the second case, Chobani is the liar.

            What I can say is that I have 5 Chobani in my refrigerator. I am too late.

          2. re: MVNYC
            beevod RE: MVNYC Dec 24, 2013 07:45 AM

            Big difference between "health food" and healthy food.

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              paulj RE: beevod Dec 24, 2013 09:29 AM

              what about healthful food?

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            wincountrygirl RE: beevod Jan 6, 2014 03:41 AM

            It is a scam. And Whole Foods is right up there with the best of them!

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              paulj RE: wincountrygirl Jan 6, 2014 09:58 AM

              Have you bought your New Years detox kit from WF yet? :)

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            janniecooks RE: jrvedivici Dec 19, 2013 11:02 AM

            There's nothing in the article stating that WF is pulling Chobani because it's not "good for you". More likely they are pulling the product because of the lack of exclusivity of the brand: "Part of the decision might be fueled by Whole Foods' push to phase out foods that use genetically modified ingredients. But it's also about offering more exclusive and organic products. Chobani is now available in most supermarkets."

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              mike0989 RE: janniecooks Dec 19, 2013 02:46 PM

              Agreed. Whole Foods is not very competitve on staples and such. If Chobani is avbalable at the local Supermarket, most shopers will get it there and save the nickle. Brown Cow is a better fit for them in this regard. The may throw GMO out there as a reason. But I bet but the bottom line is the driving force here.

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              thimes RE: jrvedivici Dec 19, 2013 01:49 PM

              My understanding (from media reports) is that they are pulling it because it relies heavily (if not exclusively) on GMO fed dairy and Chobani doesn't have current plans to change that.

              What is interesting is that WF is still carrying other yogurts (apparently) that also use GMO fed dairy - so it does make you think that there is more to the story - bad margins maybe?

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                cornedhash RE: thimes Dec 19, 2013 02:24 PM

                It might also be the bad press and just plain bad strategy Chobani had this year in regards to a recall scandal. People were telling the company they had exploding pots of yoghurt but Chobani kept claiming nothing was wrong even as major news outlets were doing articles about it. They finally had to admit it was a mold problem that affected *HUGE* amounts of shipments that were on the shelves but it took about 3 weeks for them to admit it. References:

                "Chobani Recall 2013 Update: FDA Reports Nearly 300 People Sickened By Tainted Yogurt, As Company 'Sidesteps Questions'"

                "FDA: Idaho knew Chobani yogurt was tainted before recall"

                They really screwed up and I can see that affecting the relationship with Whole Foods big time.

              2. Gio RE: jrvedivici Dec 19, 2013 02:04 PM

                Whole foods has pledged to remove all foods w/o non--GMO labeling by 2018. They pulled Chobani because that company uses milk from cows that eat GMO feed, Whole Foods will now partner with Stoneyfield organic Greek yogurt.


                It's not a scam.

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                  HokieAnnie RE: Gio Dec 21, 2013 08:56 AM

                  And yet Stoneyfield seems to have reformulated a lot of their yogurts to sugar laden crap. I no longer eat Stoneyfield myself. They went the same route General Mills did with Liberte. SIGH.

                  IMO the GMO thing is a red herring. I don't like Monsanto and how they abuse GMO technology in unwise manners but there's nothing NOTHING inherently wrong with GMO products, some hold great promise like the GMO rice being developed that is high in Vitamin A.

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                    paulj RE: HokieAnnie Dec 21, 2013 01:11 PM

                    What did Stoneyfield use to flavor their yogurts before? Savory spices?

                    In my experience there two kinds of yogurt - plain and sweetened. If you don't want sugar (or an equivalent) get plain. Flavored is going to have a lot of sugar, regardless of whether it is generic, greek, nonfat, organic or non-gmo.

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                      HokieAnnie RE: paulj Dec 21, 2013 06:29 PM

                      There's sweetened yogurt and there's sweetened yogurt. There are flavored yogurts that have less sugar than others and I prefer them that way. Plain yogurt is too bland but good fruit to mix in isn't always in season nor do I always have the time or motivation in the morning to prepare a special yogurt so grabbing a single serve already flavored is what I do.

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                        GH1618 RE: HokieAnnie Dec 22, 2013 12:16 PM

                        Frozen fruit works well in plain yogurt. I use blueberries.

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                          HokieAnnie RE: GH1618 Dec 22, 2013 01:14 PM

                          And I hate blueberries ;-P My fave mix in is springtime strawberries from the farmer's market or raspberries.

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                          rasputina RE: HokieAnnie Jan 5, 2014 07:36 AM

                          Considering that 99% of the time I'm buying plain I really don't care what their sugar source or amount is. On the other hand I'm sick and tired of 99% of yogurt in most of my local supermarkets being non fat.

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                        janniecooks RE: HokieAnnie Dec 21, 2013 01:34 PM

                        Before being sold to whichever conglomerate bought it, Stonyfield Farms plain whole milk yogurt with the cream on top was the best yogurt, bar none. Now that particular variety isn't made anymore. Boo hoo. The products under that brand now are indistinguishable from Yoplait, Dannon, and all the rest of the mass market yogurts. How long before Fage goes the same way?

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                          sandiasingh RE: janniecooks Dec 21, 2013 02:55 PM

                          Have you tried Kalona Supernatural? I don't know about their yogurt (not available here), but all of their other products are cream top.

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                            janniecooks RE: sandiasingh Dec 22, 2013 01:00 AM

                            Never heard of Kalona Supernatural, but now I will be on the lookout. I'm at the mercy of the Fresh Market for things that are not sold at the major chain grocery stores, so if I can get it there I'd certainly try the brand. thanks for sharing.

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                              sandiasingh RE: janniecooks Dec 22, 2013 09:37 AM

                              You bet, jannie. They have a FB page and you could ask them if they distribute to Florida. They're pretty responsive.

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                              JudiAU RE: sandiasingh Jan 5, 2014 09:55 AM

                              Kalona is super tasty and is very low in added sugars. Almost half of most other brands.

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                          Luther RE: Gio Jan 4, 2014 12:14 PM

                          Implied association of GMO or GMO-based products with some kind of health danger or decreased "healthiness" of the product is a scam.

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                          HillJ RE: jrvedivici Dec 24, 2013 07:47 AM

                          Yesterday Dr. Oz singled out a handful of Greek yogurts on the market demonstrating which you should buy for gut health, protein and sweet replacement. Chobani's banana and strawberry Greek wound up in the gut health category.

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                            Luther RE: HillJ Jan 4, 2014 12:13 PM

                            Dr. Oz is a TV quack, not a representative of the scientific or medical community.

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                              Chemicalkinetics RE: Luther Jan 4, 2014 12:40 PM

                              And what about Megaman? Is he a quack? :D

                          2. ttoommyy RE: jrvedivici Dec 24, 2013 08:48 AM

                            Why is yogurt "health food?" It's just "food" made out of milk. No? Is milk "health food?"

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                              Chemicalkinetics RE: ttoommyy Jan 4, 2014 12:40 PM

                              <Why is yogurt "health food?">

                              It was based on a very old theory. You don't want to know.

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                                paulj RE: Chemicalkinetics Jan 4, 2014 12:57 PM

                                cause some old people in the Caucuses (supposedly) ate it ...

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                                  ttoommyy RE: paulj Jan 6, 2014 03:34 AM

                                  Yes, I remember those commercials. I guess we haven't moved on.

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