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Vin Jaune

What can you tell me about vin jaune? I've never had it, but after reading a short piece about it recently, I'm intrigued.

Do you know any wine bars that might serve it? I'd like to taste it before buying a bottle blind.

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  1. I would try at Legrand (Passage Vivienne) or Lavinia (just off Madelaine).

    If you cook, I would suggest just buying a good bottle and, if you don't love it from the glass, use it judiciously when cooking chicken or fish with cream and morels. Heavently! Kept in the refrigerator, it seems immortal.

    1. For wine bars:
      Where are you located ?

      I've rarely seen it available at wine bars;

      you can get it at Pullman in Montreal ( if the wine list on their page is up to date) if you are in the area.

      It is peculiar, not an easy wine to drink on its own (IMO); it is oxydized and is somewhat nutty.

      It goes very well with food of the region it is made (Jura in France); Comté cheese and chicken with vin jaune.

      One good thing is that it keeps very well when the bottle is open; and the bottle is "only" 620ml instead of a regular 750ml bottle.

      Max.

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      1. re: Maximilien

        Thanks Max,

        I should have mentioned; I live outside NY but am in Paris almost every week for work, so - yeah, I was really asking about providers in Paris.

        And thanks all for the responses. It seems that vin jaune is not a very popular wine, but (without having tried it yet) I am still intrigued. I love a glass of chilled Manzanilla and it sounds like there may be some similarities.

        1. re: robodog

          robo,

          I believe the NoMad (NYC) has some on the list (in addition to other great Jura wines), not sure about BTG. If you ever get down to Boston (Somerville) Bergamot has one BTG. I know the question is directed at Paris but I have not been recently enough to know. Best wishes.

          1. re: winefuhrer

            Ah - good to know.

            What are the other great Jura wines that you like? I don't know anything about Jura wines (other than the fact that vin jaune is one from that department).

            1. re: robodog

              robo,

              I have had a Vin Jaune (I had it by itself and may have enjoyed it better if properly paired) as well as Poulsard and Trousseau (both red)...one at NoMad and one at Gramercy Tavern. I wish I recalled the producers but do not.

              1. re: winefuhrer

                If in States, generally Tissot, Puffney, or very rarely (have seen at Astor in NY) Le Chais de Vieux Bourg, a top producer.
                In Paris Caves de Pantheon on Rue St Jacques generally has stuff by Pierre Overnoy, considered the top by many.

              2. re: robodog

                Anything with savignin should give you some of the barnyard flavor.

                I like a nice glass of macvin, a cheaper apero. It's the daddymac of Jura bevs. Only ever saw it in the region, like marcs from Jura which are rarely commercialized.

                1. re: Busk

                  Currently have in my cellar 11 different makers of Macvin, easy to find in Paris, let me know where you are and l will give you a nearby shop or two.

                  1. re: Delucacheesemonger

                    My employer always puts me up at the Marriott Rive Gauche, 14eme.

                    1. re: robodog

                      Relatively close to you is the one mentioned. On Rue St Jacques just south of Rue de Ecoles is Caves de Pantheon, they have Overnoy and a few others.
                      It is just off the Place Luxembourg RER B stop.

                        1. re: robodog

                          While Deluca's Caves du Panthéon is a sure bet, the area around your hotel might also be worth exploring for both vin jaune and macvin.

                          There's an excellent caviste just a 5-min walk from the Marriott... La Treille d'Or on the rue de la Tombe-Issoire in the 14th... it had a "dégustation" of Jura wines last month.

                          The café on the corner of boulevard St Jacques and rue de la Tombe Issoire is also a bit of an oenophile hang-out but I seem to remember an emphasis on wines from the southwest.

                          The rue Daguerre (10-min walk) is this quartier's rue commerçante/ shopping street and worth a visit even if you don't find what you're looking for. Four excellent cavistes (Maison Peret, La Cave des Papilles, La Cave Daguerre, & Le Repaire de Bacchus (a chain but good and if I want something not in stock at this branch, they can usually get it in a day or two)

                          1. re: Parnassien

                            As always l genuflect in your presence. {8>)

                            1. re: Delucacheesemonger

                              No undue admiration is required (ok, ok, i'm lying)... and of course the admiration is returned tenfold (not lying) :)

                    2. re: Delucacheesemonger

                      Thanks! Well, this week, I'm actually in Philly, but you of all people may know where to find macvin here too.

                      1. re: Busk

                        Never saw it in Pa, only NY, Astor for one.
                        Contact me on my info page and be glad to supply you with one of mine

          2. If you want a good expression of vin jaune for your first experience, I highly recommend Château d'Arlay. You'll certainly find it at Lavinia and Caves Augé.

            1. Vin Jaune or its upscale neighbor Chateau-Chalon have a definite sherry flor and can feel and taste like an exquisite sherry. Also maybe the longest lasting French wine, my cellar has bottles from the 50's and 60's.
              At Bastille market on Sunday, the gentleman with the long wine booth in the center isle of the market has Berthe-Bondet vin jaune and their vin paille as well and not for bad prices.

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              1. re: Delucacheesemonger

                DCM: did we not have a good vin jaune chez Casimir once? Nice meal, overwhelming cheese platter, great wine.

                1. re: Parigi

                  Nope, we had a savignin, grape is same but aged far longer for vin jaune.

              2. I would add to all the sagacity already expressed that not everyone loves vin jaune, indeed elsewhere on a now moribund website a poster was upset after drinking some not having expected an "off" taste. But you know what you're getting into so should enjoy it.