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Heavy-Duty Stand Mixers

gardener54 Dec 16, 2013 05:33 PM

I need a heavy duty stand mixer with a minimum of 6 quart capacity that will do anything from whip egg whites to knead dense grained bread. I'm leaning toward the KA Professional 600 or the Bosch Universal. I looked at posts on Chowhound and it appears the most recent postings in that discussion were in 2006 or so. DeLonghi got raves but it appears DeLonghi no longer makes stand mixers (and other things change in 7 years as well.) Does anyone who frequently uses a mixer for a variety of uses have a strong opinion about their mixer. Oh, of course I investigated Hobart. Only 3 speeds but primarily a price tag of over $2200 for a 6 quart takes it way out of the scope of what I want and need a mixer for.

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  1. monavano RE: gardener54 Dec 16, 2013 05:41 PM

    Are you using it professionally?

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      gardener54 RE: gardener54 Dec 16, 2013 06:04 PM

      No, this is for my home. I spend a LOT of time in the kitchen.

      1. monavano RE: gardener54 Dec 16, 2013 06:07 PM

        I think the KA pro would do the job. I have a lift/lower bowl model and love it. I don't use it everyday though.

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          rasputina RE: gardener54 Dec 16, 2013 06:25 PM

          The Electrolux Ankarsrum AKA Verona AKA Assistent AKA Magic Mill, it's been a few names over the years but maintained the same design.


          I've had mine for a year and love it. I donated my 20 year old KA to goodwill and haven't looked back.

          1. DuffyH RE: gardener54 Dec 16, 2013 07:45 PM

            My KA Pro 600 is a workhorse. Solid, sturdy, gets the job done, no fuss. It just always works. I'm an infrequent baker, using it for bread dough (including kneading), cookies, cakes and the like.

            Invest in a Sideswipe or similar paddle and skip bowl scraping.

            I can't speak about how it compares to other brands. I abandoned my Sunbeam Mixmaster 30 years ago when a batch of chocolate chip cookies chewed up the motor.

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              bevwinchester RE: gardener54 Dec 16, 2013 08:34 PM

              I have the Bosch Universal Plus & recommend it highly. Have not thrown anything into it yet that the big boy can't handle!

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                ziggylu RE: gardener54 Dec 17, 2013 09:49 AM

                I killed three KA mixers, including one "pro" version, in the past ten years. I'm done with them. If you can get your hands on an old Hobart made model that's a different story though.

                I bought a Bosch Universal earlier this year to give it a try. So far I've been happy with it, but I also right about the same time decided I needed to get serious about losing weight and very rarely make bread, or other baked goods, these days. Lots of multi-grain bread is what killed two of my KAs(too many genoise killed the first 4 1/2 qt) which is why I decided to try the Bosch this time. I've made bread in just a few times but have been very happy with it

                It doesn't do great with small batches however. That's been my only complaint with it. That said if you're going to be making a lot of heavy duty dough this or the Electrolux seem to be the best bet right now. (I went with the Bosch as it seemed simpler to use to me than the roller design on the Electrolux.)

                I wish Kenwood/DeLonghi would re-enter the US market with a mixer. That one W-S sells with the induction plate is so silly and expensive(do they still sell it?) I was hoping that would be a precursor to seeing the basic mixer back on the market here but so far no dice.

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                  rmarisco RE: ziggylu Dec 17, 2013 11:18 AM

                  i have had pretty much the same experience as zigg.. i got rid of a 15 year old KA, and got a bosch. both great machines. the bosch is no longer used however, as my family's needs have changed (as has our gluten intake!) the one thing going for the bosch is that it's basically a motor with attachments, so you can add a food processor and a blender feature, along with other attachments. they are pretty reasonably priced and function well - i had the blender and used it for a couple of years for smoothies, before i got my blendtec

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                    mikie RE: ziggylu Dec 18, 2013 02:21 PM

                    "I wish Kenwood/DeLonghi would re-enter the US market with a mixer."

                    I must have bought my wife her DeLonghi just a year or two before they pulled out of the US market. She absolutely thinks it's great. Tried to find one for my girls when their KAs started to act up and no luck. One has moved up to the KA Pro and the other is still struggeling with the tilt head that wobbles.

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                      smfan RE: mikie Dec 18, 2013 05:42 PM

                      You can find Kenwood stand mixer 4, 7 Quarts or the one with hot plate in Toronto, Canada.

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                        mikie RE: smfan Dec 21, 2013 10:35 AM

                        Thank you, next time I'm in Buffalo I may take a trip across the border. That is one good looking and sturdy mixer.

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                          smfan RE: mikie Dec 21, 2013 02:29 PM

                          Sears toronto have the 4 Quart and the one with hot plate, the Bay have all 3 models, and Caynes Warehouse has 4 and 7 Quarts and the cheapest.

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                            smfan RE: mikie Dec 21, 2013 02:48 PM

                            Sears Canada will be closing most stores in toronto. But no sales on Kenwood mixer.

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                              smfan RE: mikie Dec 28, 2013 06:11 AM

                              Hi Mikie, Caynes Warehouse now carries 7.1Q Kenwood in Brushed for CA$500 Sliver for CA$700. But I checked amazon uk it has one finish only. So I am not sure. But it is very tempting. Caynes has a website.

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                        axial RE: gardener54 Dec 17, 2013 10:24 AM

                        There's a moderated Yahoo group called "Mixer-Owners" that has a ton of good information from mixer users, lots of comparison and practical advice, particularly on bread kneading. Here's the link:


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                          pine time RE: gardener54 Dec 19, 2013 11:43 AM

                          I've had my KA Pro, 6 qt. for just 2 months, but so far, so good. Have made lots of heavy-dough breads, tons of baked goods, and the usual whipped potatoes, egg white meringues, etc. No problems with it wimping out on power or getting too hot--problems I read about online, but haven't experienced (knock wood).

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                            thimes RE: gardener54 Dec 19, 2013 01:41 PM

                            I have a KA and love it, have had one for years and then upgraded to a larger model a few years ago - still no complaints.

                            Ironically I was just looking into mixers today (first world problems) and came across the Bodum Bistro Electric Stand Mixer (it seems dirt cheap on Amazon: List $550, Amazon $139). Anyone know anything about it other than online reviews?

                            That said, last month's Cooks Illustrated did a review of mixers:

                            Highly recommended
                            KA Pro-line 7 qt

                            KA Classic Plus (best buy)
                            KA Pro 600

                            Recommended with reservations
                            Waring Commercial Pro
                            Cuisinart 5.5 Stand mixer

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                              rasputina RE: thimes Dec 19, 2013 02:12 PM

                              CI already proved with their previous review of mixers they are not a reliable source. Their bias is clear. They only understand mixers that work with planetary action and are too lazy to bother learning how other mixers work.

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                                mikie RE: thimes Dec 21, 2013 10:43 AM

                                Honestly, given the other "junk" that's out there, I'm not shocked that KA ran the table in the Cooks Illustrated testing. They really didn't look outside the box on this test, but that's typical with most reviews from any source.

                              2. Master RE: gardener54 Dec 20, 2013 09:02 AM

                                KitchenAid commercial, all day everyday. Just replaced a 20+ year old KA 5qt commercial mixer with their new 8qt model, runs great and doesn't get hot. The 7qt household model has the same motor, controller and gearing as the 8qt does.

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                                  gardener54 RE: gardener54 Dec 20, 2013 05:54 PM

                                  ALL of the responses to my query have been great and provided much food for thought. I had pretty much decided against the KA Pro 6 quart and was leaning heavily towards the Electrolux rather than the Bosch because of the attachments. BUT, I have decided on the KA Pro 7 quart (thanks, SMFan.) The KA I have that burned out is 17 years old. How can I complain? More importantly, I already have the array of attachments I use.

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                                    smfan RE: gardener54 Dec 21, 2013 07:17 AM

                                    Are you in Toronto? I got an email about 2 days ago from William Sonoma saying KA mixer 20% off one day only. I am not sure if that applies to Pro 7 quart. I think William Sonoma is the only retail store carrying the Pro 7 quart.

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                                      smfan RE: gardener54 Dec 21, 2013 07:33 AM

                                      At William Sonoma Toronto for every $50 spend you will get $10 coupon till Dec 24. The discount was only for Metallic Grey KA 6500 with glass bowl and other basic models. If you do buy the KA Pro 7 now, you will get coupons.

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                                      gardener54 RE: gardener54 Dec 21, 2013 09:14 AM

                                      Just went to Williams-Sonoma website. The KA Pro-Line 7 Qt in my preferred color (pearl white) is not available until mid-January. I purchased the last one in stock from Kitchen Clique in Brooklyn (through Amazon) for same price. I did attempt to order a 7-quart bowl scraper from WS but the advertised 20% off promotion code shown with the item came up as expired at checkout (I figured that would pay for the shipping.) I'll get one the next time I'm at Williams-Sonoma. I'll report back in after I've had the mixer a few weeks.

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                                        ziggylu RE: gardener54 Dec 21, 2013 03:21 PM

                                        I took out my Bosch today to make some gingerbread cookies. This is the first tiem I've used it since...June I believe. I bought it in late April so as I said above it's seen little use and only for bread up to this point.

                                        I have to say, I was frustrated with it for cookies. (I have the cookie paddles) The dough I made had two sticks of butter and 6 cups of flour so not super small(not really big either, but pretty typical). It was really too small a batch when creaming the butter and sugar. The dough is still chilling but I'll see how it rolls out.

                                        I should have just used the hand mixer but thought this might be faster and easier wiht 6 cups of flour.

                                        So...I'm not impressed with it for non-bread applications. For bread, particularly heavy doughs, I do think it's a good machine as long as you don't mind making bigger batches(I have a two person household so would have to freeze extra loaves of bread. I wouldn't mind doing that but we eat little bread these days so I don't).

                                        Seems like there's not a mixer that can really do it all well on the market...

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                                          smfan RE: ziggylu Dec 21, 2013 05:50 PM

                                          Ziggylu, do you have the bosch compact or universal?

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                                            ziggylu RE: smfan Dec 21, 2013 06:17 PM

                                            I have the universal. I didn't think the compact would hold up to heavy whole grain bread with the overhead motor.

                                            It probably does work well for cookies and such in larger batches. The store I bought it at does weekly demos with it and I've been to a couple of those and ti's always mixed up things well...but they do their recipes in large batches geared toward the store's demographics of large families.

                                            I will say the bread doughs I have made with it have been really nice. If bread is your focus I'd think about the Bosch or Electrolux...

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                                          Kelli2006 RE: gardener54 Dec 21, 2013 07:15 PM

                                          If you bake a lot and mix up heavy bread doughs I would suggest the KA commercial mixer. I was given one as a college graduation present and I have not been able to break it in over 20 years.

                                          The small Hobart mixer can be found for much less than list price on Ebay. If you not immune to auctions they can also be found at restaurant closures

                                          1. Antilope RE: gardener54 Dec 28, 2013 08:17 AM

                                            I make a lot of bread and mainly use my Kitchenaid 5-qt mixer for kneading dough. I do make a occasional batter, egg whites or even mashed potatoes, but kneading dough is the main use. I make about 3 or 4 loaves of bread a week.
                                            I posted the info below in another thread, but I think it is also relevant in this thread.
                                            I would go for a Kitchenaid mixer model that uses a spiral dough hook. It kneads much better and with less strain and motor heating on the mixer than the "J" shaped dough hook.
                                            The spiral dough hook presses the dough into the bottom of the bowl and kneads back and forth through it.
                                            The "J" hook beats the dough against the side of the bowl and the dough climbs up the hook.

                                            These YouTube videos show how each dough hook handles the dough during kneading.

                                            Kitchenaid with Spiral Dough Hook


                                            Kitchenaid with "J" Dough Hook

                                            I have a Kitchenaid 5-qt bowl lifter model that came with a "J" hook and I found a KA Spiral hook that fits it. My mixer runs cooler and with much less motor strain while using the spiral dough hook. The spiral hook seems to develop the dough faster and with less heating of the dough than the "J" dough hook.

                                            I read somewhere that 1 minute of kneading by mixer is equal to 4 minutes of hand kneading.

                                            1. iL Divo RE: gardener54 Dec 28, 2013 12:49 PM

                                              I'll admit to not using it a ton this year for cookie making as I was in continuous illness......did all with hand mixer & alka seltzer ;:-/
                                              that said, I have the pro with the crazy motor and heavy duty everything (hubby bought that one cause he knows). it has not let me down except for getting the blades stuck and working killer mode to try and get them loose/out. have sliced fingers a few times.

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                                                iL Divo RE: iL Divo Dec 28, 2013 03:59 PM

                                                ^^^kitchen aid^^^

                                              2. ElsieB RE: gardener54 Dec 29, 2013 06:58 AM

                                                I am still heavily using my KA k5a since 1976! That is nearly 38 years! Never a problem, except when I purchased an aftermarket silicon coated mixer blade which cracked at the top pretty quickly.

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                                                  sivulich RE: gardener54 Jan 27, 2014 04:37 PM

                                                  Have a 5 qt. KA that is about 15 years old and still working. Bought the 6 qt.Prof. KA three years ago and just learned it will cost $200 to repair after moderate use. KA customer service will not even discuss as the one year warranty is obviously over. While it worked, it was great but KA is coasting on its name. Customer service person Michele told me that "sometimes products fail." This one sure did. Don't buy a KA.

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