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Dec 15, 2013 08:04 PM

Ptbo Hounds - What is THE source for fresh fish

We'll be in the area this Holiday season and would like to pick up some very fresh fish at some point. Where would you go in Peterborough to get he best possible fresh fish?

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  1. You have to get lucky. I usually get fish at either Sobeys or Costco - but it helps to ask the fish person when the fish comes into the store. Sometimes they will tell me that they're getting some in tomorrow or the next day so I will wait. Costco guys are fairly helpful but I don't like that they don't label with country of origin.

    1. Sorry, grocery store, mostly previously frozen seafood only. Limited selection and hit/miss quality. If possible load up at Dianna's or Seafood Depot before you go (as we always do).

      However, if you are in the mood for meat, Primal Cuts on Lansdowne has 90+ day dry aged steaks and many other amazing things, and Franz's has THE BEST house smoked bacon (ask for "the good stuff"). As good as anything you can find anywhere.

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      1. re: PoppiYYZ

        Thanks PoppiYYZ. The idea of loading up at Diana's or Seafood Depot (or Hooked!) is a good one, but the time lapse will be too long. thanks for the tip on Primal Cuts and Franz's!

        1. re: PoppiYYZ

          "Sorry, grocery store, mostly previously frozen seafood only"

          Questionable advice. Trays of fresh fish or displayed fish on ice will be fresh, with a shelf life of up to three days.

          There is plenty of fresh fish at the counter in the upscale Sobeys, Loblaw or Metro, and in a refrigerated bin at Costco. If some is previously frozen, the label or sign will indicate that.

          1. re: jayt90

            "Freshness" is a very relative thing. The distribution chain that ends in a grocery store is at least one day longer, and often many more, than a distribution chain that ends in a high quality fish monger. That day can make a big difference, let alone the consequences of a several day delay. And, when you are an employee in a Loblaws meat department, there is no personal stake in how good and fresh the product is.

            I love fresh fish, but only when it is really, really fresh. I am fortunate to live in an area where one can get fish that was swimming 48 hours before. I long ago gave up Grocery Store fish. Looks like our holiday may be fish free.

            1. re: WillinTO

              What are you saying? You can get 48 hour pickerel, trout and salmon at Costco, as mandated by the managers. At the other outlets you can always ask for shipping information from a manager. Large market fish marketing has improved dramaticaly, and can compete with fishmongers who don't have the same supply connections. Can they get fresh Copper River salmon into the store in 48 hours? In season it is flown from Alaska to Seattle by float plane, to Costco, and by air to Brampton. I get it in London within 2 days of catch.

              1. re: jayt90

                You're cheating. You haven't taken into account the time that you have gained by going east through time zones.

                1. re: Vinnie Vidimangi

                  However trout, char, pickerel, whitefish, and N.B. salmon or steelhead can reach Ontario markets quickly. With luck, cod and haddock can be fresh at local markets with careful inspection.

                  1. re: jayt90

                    I have a friend who thinks that the fish at the famous Tokyo fish market is not fresh. She grew up on an island off the southern Japanese coast. Thee the fish was fresh. And when the fish comes here and Hashimoto gives you not enough to eat for $250.........

                    I mean really fresh - local to Ptbo. See prior in time post in this thread

            2. re: jayt90

              I've been buying more and more frozen wild fish at Costco lately. I used to think it would not taste as good as fresh fish but what I have found is that it being flash frozen on board the boat soon after being caught it ends up tasting just as good. That surprised me.

            3. re: PoppiYYZ

              That just isn't true - previously frozen fish must be labelled as such. And sometimes it is. Certainly you will NEVER get fresh shrimp in this area but you will get other fresh fish, depending on supply. As I said, you do have to ask at the fish counter and they ought to be able to tell you when it arrived at the store, and sometimes when it was caught.

              I will say, however, I personally hate the fish counter at Superstore. Sobeys is ok and, unless it's a 15 year old clerk, you can usually get decent information from them. I have a good friend who swears by Morellos Independent.

              It's a pickle when you live out here. Yes, you can load up at the seafood depot or Diana's, but this is not a realistic long-term strategy. So you put up with the inconvenience for the luxury of living in the country. I say it's even.

              1. re: Nyleve

                But you are in the middle of bodies of water of different kinds. WTF!

            4. Doesn't someone sell locally caught fish?
              How far is Peterborough from Lake Simcoe, Lake Huron or Lake Erie? Hudson's Bay?
              Anything commercial in the rivers?

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              1. re: Vinnie Vidimangi

                Peterborough is far far from anyplace with any sort of commercial fishery. If you personally know a fisherman, you may be in luck. Otherwise, you're at the mercy of the retail market.

              2. Years ago, maybe still, you could buy fresh trout at the farmer's market that came from the Kinmount Fish Farm. They were wonderful! Now you could try Linwood Acres Trout Farms south of Peterborough.

                If that doesn't work, ice fishing season is upon us. We caught a gorgeous brook trout north of Peterborough last weekend. It's a great excuse to get outside in winter.

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                1. re: earthygoat

                  You're right.. I forgot about the trout farm. Linwood acres is between peterborough and port hope, just off county road 9 I think.

                  1. re: earthygoat

                    Jack's Lake, near Apsley, has scores of fish huts and the locals would be glad to sell you a just-caught Pickerel or Yellow Perch...both excellent panfish.

                  2. This thread shows the disgraceful wastefulness of Canadian society and its distorted food culture.

                    Look at a map of Ontario. There is a world of fresh water bodies of water within a two hour drive of Peterborough. There are a lot of fish of different types in the water. If not, fish can be farmed.

                    An example. Would you order carp if it were on a menu in Toronto? It's on the menu in superb restaurants in France and the French do know something about food.

                    How about whitefish, which is related to salmon? So no squeamishness- and it's delicious- and cheap. When is the last time you saw it on a Toronto menu? Most of it gets exported to the USA.

                    Instead, we import basa and tilapia from Asia where it is farmed in who knows what.

                    Next thing you know we will be importing apples from China.