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Dec 11, 2013 03:44 PM

I miss the old manifesto.

Just reread the old "ethics statement" from back in the day.

Ethics Statement (from Alpha Hound Jim Leff)
I guard my anonymity and my opinion cannot be bought. I always pay my own tab, and this site will never contain food advertising. May I eat nothing but Wendy's for the rest of my life if I ever offer less than purely objective chow advice.

And now we have a board dedicated to chains, and- oh- one or two food advertisements :)

Mr Taster

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  1. I wasn't around back in those days but I understand that the site wasn't financially supporting itself. I don't know how one would get that without accepting advertising. I do, however, feel that it's more about the number of 'hits' than about the substance of some boards/threads/replies. And we have a board about "Not About Food." Huh? And off-topic subthreads that hijack the OP. Et cetera.

    1. Fascinating. Love the idea, but wonder how the board was paid for before the advertising?

      I'm guessing such a thing could still exist, but the users would have to be charged a monthly or per-use fee in order to keep the site viable. Curious to know if there are enough users willing to pay to make that an option.

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      1. re: pedalfaster

        "wonder how the board was paid for before the advertising?"

        Jim would post a note saying something along the lines of "we can't pay our server bills" and we would send checks.

      2. "Now" we have a board dedicated to chains? It's not *that* new. And surely, Mr. Leff -- in his never-ending quest for deliciousness -- would probably find something delicious at one of them there chains.

        But yeah, it's the end of the world as we know it.

        And I feel fiiiiiiiiiiiine :-D

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        1. re: linguafood

          Jim was a big fan of Popeye's Fried Chicken at one point but if you really want to know his issue with chains, read his great big Panera rant here

          1. re: Chris VR

            It's beyond my patience to read anything that long about something as non-important as chains.

            1. re: c oliver

              It's not about chains.

              It's really an analysis of how our culture developed a preference for brands over actual quality.

              It's not rocket science, but it is a well written, sharply observed piece.

              Mr Taster

            2. re: Chris VR

              Wow, what an interesting, well written piece. It explains so well why people queue up for Chipotle, for example, when there's a great lonchero for 1/4 the price right around the corner.

              Mr Taster

          2. So what's different? Most, if not all posters on Chowhound are anonymous. Participants and moderators are vigilant against spammers. I don't pay attention to the food ads, and you don't have to either. That fact that I and others are frequent contributors to threads about Trader Joes (the busiest ones on Chains) does not compromise our Hound status. I also don't doubt the credentials of Hounds who mourned the passing Supertaster.

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            1. re: paulj

              And if you didn't actively go looking for the Chains board you would never know it actually existed at all...