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What's your drink of choice to get at a bar/restaurant and what is it and where do you get it at ?

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That Bukowski post has got me thinking.

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  1. Bukowski would scoff at anything more complex than brown liquor in a glass or perhaps some cheap port sold by the jug.

    That being said, my gotos lately have been Buffalo Trace Bourbon on ice or with a splash of soda or Templeton Rye served up the same way.

    I actually tend to haunt dives or semi-dives. I live in Silver Lake so I hit neighborhood or nearby spots like Footsies, Short Stop (early only and on select nights only) or Bar 107. If I'm feeling fancy or on a date, perhaps Thirsty Crow (which tries a bit too hard IMO) or Seven Grand.

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    1. re: JeMange

      Jemange I like buffalo trace too it's a good deal by bottle about 25 bucks.

      I like single liquor ie chilled stoly pours at st nicks on third street - 3x the booze, one third the price as other local spots. You do the math. No garnish.

      1. re: JeMange

        Thirsty Crow is good for the 5 dollar Buff Trace night.

        For Bourbon I like Hudson Baby Bourbon.

        1. re: burntwater

          And which night, pray tell, is that?

            1. re: burntwater

              Thanks! I know where I'll be a week from yesterday.

        2. re: JeMange

          ok, JeMange, on your recommendation i will head to Beverage Warehouse tomorrow to buy a bottle of this Buffalo Trace stuff of which you speak. ($23/bottle).
          will report back

          1. re: westsidegal

            uh-oh, please be kind if you don't happen to like it. :)

            1. re: kevin

              Better stuff than Buffalo Trace brand coming from that distillery

              1. re: Beachowolfe

                normally i drink gin, wine, cognac, or scotch.
                this will be my first foray into bourbon.

                probably i don't need "the best" at this point.
                any other suggestions for bourbon for a newbie?

                1. re: westsidegal

                  I think that's a good place to start. For $10 more/bottle, there's Basil Hayden's, which is smooth as silk. It's delicious but maybe not exactly representative of classic (American) whiskey flavor.

                  Also, while it doesn't really speak to taste/flavor, this chart might help put American whiskey production into perspective.


                  1. re: westsidegal

                    Spend a dollar more (24 bucks) and can get Eagle Rare at Bevmo.

                    I suggest this.....

                    Also if you get a chance try Blantons,

                    1. re: westsidegal

                      WL Weller, very affordable

                      +1 fo Blantons and Eagle Rare

                      1. re: Beachowolfe

                        I like Buffalo Trace and Eagle Rare as well. Picked up Fighting Cock 6 Year Old Bourbon at BevMo a couple weeks ago when it was just $15, and was surprised how much I liked it. Anyone tried this stuff? Thoughts?

                        1. re: phamschottler

                          I'll have to give fighting cock a try. Never even heard of it.

                  2. re: kevin

                    i just broke open the bottle of buffalo trace last night.
                    LOVELY stuff.
                    how have i lived so long without it?

                    1. re: westsidegal

                      Such a good deal too. I was able to convert my wife's dad to a whiskey drinker with that. Glad u enjoyed !

                        1. re: westsidegal

                          It's delish, isn't it? And nothing beats it at that price point.

                          1. re: JeMange

                            right you are.
                            tried Bulleit the other night for the first time.

                            i like the Buffalo Trace FAR better.
                            What a great find!
                            THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

                            1. re: westsidegal

                              I'm with you on Bulleit. Their bourbon tastes like Jack Daniels to me, which is the opposite of a compliment.

                              Both their rye and bourbon taste much better with water, soda or some melted rocks. Otherwise they have an unpleasant harshness.

                              1. re: JeMange

                                Have u tried the Sinatra select jack? My friends like it better than jw blue

                                1. re: jessejames

                                  I haven't and, at $200/bottle I probably won't any time soon.

                                  I shy away from JD products in general and one with such a ridiculous name is probably gonna keep me away.


                                  1. re: JeMange

                                    Yes. At least with the blue you know there is some 50 yo booze going in.

                                    Still curious and will have to wait and see if an opportunity presents itself.

                                    Man that buffalo trace is a a deal.

                                    1. re: jessejames

                                      there's a joint that serves blue for $20.

                                      but usually what a snifter is like $40 bucks.

                                      i think tana's will serve you it for $45 ??????

                                      1. re: kevin

                                        Bottle 150. I go that route. Same with buffalo trace. Call me George thorogood the remedial rocker

                                        1. re: jessejames

                                          One bourbon, one scotch and one beer?

                                2. re: JeMange

                                  last night i tried Eagle Rare (also made by the Buffalo Trace people), and really liked that.

                                  (the bar i go to offers a happy hour special of $3 off the normal drink price, so the Eagle Rare, which is normally priced at $12 ended up costing me $9 before tax and tip. they no longer carry Buffalo Trace)

                                  i'm not a fan of harshness.
                                  harshness, in my head, somehow gets equated with the cheap booze that i was drinking while in college.
                                  don't see spending any real money just to get a harsh drink.

                                  1. re: westsidegal

                                    What's the name of this bar ??????


                                    1. re: kevin

                                      settebello in the marina

                                      great as a bar
                                      great as a casual restaurant
                                      bonus points because on the way home from settebello i can make a quick stop at Gelato Lounge.

                                      1. re: westsidegal


                                        Now why do I keep thinking Settebello is beer/wine only ????

                                        Thanks for the clarification.

                                        1. re: kevin

                                          "Now why do I keep thinking Settebello is beer/wine only ????"

                                          Pickled brain cells?

                                          1. re: Servorg

                                            Most likely.

                                            I think, if I my pea brain is catching your drift


                                            Now Sevrog why do you always have to give me such a hard time ?????????

                                            1. re: kevin

                                              I'm getting a contact high off of all this talk of alcohol...And I'm just kidding you, kev. I'm sure your brain is in much better shape than mine (if for no other reason than my very advanced age).

                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                This thread is very bad for what's left of our collective brains.

                                                I guess the mods can close it up now.

                                                Or maybe not ?????????

                                                1. re: kevin

                                                  tgif, and remember what jimmy buffet says

                                                  1. re: jessejames

                                                    you're telling me.

                                                    and its already 5 o'clock somewhere.

                                                    so drink up. :)

                                                2. re: Servorg

                                                  Tana's the other night was quite painful.

                                            2. re: kevin

                                              imho, the list of distilled spirits they offer is stronger than their wine list, by far.

                                              that said, they do not offer the complete complement of mass produced distilled spirits that most bars carry.
                                              for example, for bourbon they do carry, among others, Dickel. Bulleit, and Eagle Rare, but they do NOT carry Jack Daniels.

                                              similar story with other types of whiskey

                                              1. re: westsidegal

                                                good to know.


                                                i'll try it one of these days along with a pie most likely.

                                                1. re: kevin

                                                  re: the pie

                                                  imho, their regular pies are far better than the little pies they offer at happy hour.

                                                  the ratio of crust to topping is better; the thickness of the crust is better.

                                                  1. re: westsidegal

                                                    ok, i'll skip the happy hr pies for sure, they are the tiny personal pizza type of pies, right ????

                                                    I hate those things bc, yeah it does not have the requisite ratios and surface area from crust to the tip.

                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                      that's it exactly.
                                                      the baby pies need more surface area.

                                                      if you go in during the early happy hour, you can order your drinks and apps off of the happy hour menu and still order your pies off of the regular menu.
                                                      monday through friday 3 to 7

                                                      food is not served during the late happy hour, just booze.
                                                      10 to 11

                                                      1. re: westsidegal

                                                        Thanks WG.

                                                        You are after all our resident Westside expert.

                                      2. re: JeMange

                                        tried the Bulleit rye tonight and liked it MUCH MUCH more than their bourbon.
                                        much smoother.

                                        1. re: westsidegal

                                          Hate to say it, but I think things may vary from batch to batch. Especially the bourbon.

                                          1. re: mc michael

                                            well the batch of bourbon that i tried was EXACTLY as JeMange described it.

                                            the rye, though, was smooth.

                              2. re: westsidegal

                                Not to make myself sound like an alkie but I look at Buffalo Trace as a "volume drinkin' whiskey." While it's certainly tasty, it's no Eagle Rare or I.W. Harper President's Reserve or A.H. Hirsch Reserve.

                                I'm not a single drink kinda guy, which means that splurging on one top shelf drink doesn't make much sense to me or my liver.

                                1. re: JeMange

                                  Yes a good clean session whiskey and a great price. Try it Westside. No jack charcoal or gnarly wild turkey overlays.

                            2. a single malt neat with ice on the side; laphroaig, macallan or glenfiddich depending on my mood and if i'm able to smoke a cigar. the place *will* have live music (either jazz or blues) and room to dance. eating will be incidental.

                              1. It's been a couple years since Iv'e been to LA.When I return,it's King Eddys for me.I had my nephew drop me off in downtown.I had a whole day to kill. Iv'e never been there before.I found King Eddys at eight in the morning. Ordering a Budweiser I couldn't help watching two overweight old men with walkers almost come to fista cuffs over politics, while another man looked on chain smoking behind a glass partition, with brillant white false teeth. I sat there for hours.

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                                  1. re: emglow101

                                    Sadly, that King Eddy - where you could get $3 shots of Kessler (which is admittedly quite disgusting) and $.50 plates of potato salad and pickled eggs is gone.

                                    It's been replaced by this:


                                    1. re: JeMange

                                      Looks like your city lost a landmark. That's B.S. Thanks for info.I won't go near that place.Oh,we don't open until five p.m. F. off.

                                    2. Happy hour at Frida is very good. Ask for Carl. Best bar tender around.

                                      1. I've also been enjoying Corralejo Reposado tequila. Delicious stuff!

                                        1. oddly, the bukowski post got me thinking, too. about at least a hunnert other poets who deserve bars about them more than that chancer does.
                                          but i digress...

                                          drink of choice: anything and everything.
                                          where i get it at: anywhere and everywhere.

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                                          1. re: linus

                                            This isn't the proper venue for discussing Bukowski's merit or lack thereof but it seems odd to label him a chancer - a crass opportunist.

                                            1. re: JeMange

                                              it's highly likely i chose the wrong word to capture the specific kind of lamen...
                                              oops, not the proper venue. sorry.
                                              off to find a byron pub...

                                              1. I enjoy a cosmo with some really nice tequila (Cuervo Gold when I can get it) at my new go to steak place, the Stinking Rose.

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                                                  1. re: JAB

                                                    Hey, nothing but the best for me, what can I say.

                                                1. Awhile back I did several of the Japanese whiskey flight tastings at Plan Check and I enjoyed them all. And once at The Corner Door I asked the bartender to create a drink for me knowing that I like smoky scotches (Lagavulin being one of my favs) and he came up with a very satisfying concoction.

                                                  1. Sometimes I feel like having a Manhattan, made with bourbon, not rye. Tavern makes a great one as does Bar Toscana directly across the street.

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                                                    1. re: maudies5

                                                      After careful consideration, I have decided that I prefer my Manhattan with rye.

                                                      1. re: maudies5

                                                        Yeah I agree- it's Manhattans with rye and Old Fashioneds with bourbon for me...

                                                    2. I love gin martinis at musso and franks. And the way Churchill had his. (He nodded gravely to the vermouth when he made them)

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                                                      1. re: elizabetheatsfood

                                                        THAT's the drink -- & the place!!! And do like my Mom -- ask for the olives on the side so it doesn't displace any gin (!!)

                                                      2. Maker's neat.

                                                        I have my favorite places 'round town.

                                                        1. Anyone been to Wolf & Crane? About a week old in Little Tokyo.

                                                          1. I love a martini, gin of course, and I agree with the late, great bon vivant Lucius Beebe's pronouncement that "Anything drier than five to one is just iced gin!" Five to one, even three to one, is pretty much my style; I had one of the latter Saturday night at Barkley's in South Pas. It was excellent, and not expensive. Mrs. O liked her Sidecar (her favorite) well enough to get two. That was our first visit, but certainly not our last.

                                                            I also have gotten very good ones at the Redwood downtown on Second, just down from Hill, and at Cheval Bistro in Old Town.

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                                                            1. re: Will Owen

                                                              SECRET *I love iced gin* (not always but sometimes it is what the dr ordered)

                                                              1. re: elizabetheatsfood

                                                                i like the "iced" FORD'S GIN.
                                                                these days, i skip the "martini" pretense altogether and just ask for it in a glass with a couple of ice cubes.

                                                            2. I'm a martini man myself, if I'm allowed to state that in polite conversation and Musso's is the place.

                                                              Unless that it is I'm in the mood for a classic old-fashioned.

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                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                cole's makes a top notch classic old fashioned.

                                                              2. The Wine House does bourbon tastings that are fun and informative!

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                                                                1. re: perk

                                                                  just looked on their website.
                                                                  none seem to be scheduled right now.
                                                                  will check again after the first of the year.

                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                        Well it's gin, gin, gin that makes you want to sin
                                                                        On the farm, on the farm
                                                                        It's gin, gin, gin that makes you want to sin
                                                                        On the Leland Stanford Junior Farm.

                                                                        1. re: Servorg

                                                                          (my eyes are dim, I can not see, I have not brought my specs with me, I have not brought my specs with me!!!! )

                                                                        2. re: kevin

                                                                          Vodka please. But I did enjoy the gin one I had at Musso's ;)

                                                                            1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                              This thread is circling around the answer:

                                                                              Ketel One martini, Musso's.

                                                                              As long as I don't have to eat there.

                                                                          1. Addendum to my drink of choicey :

                                                                            The old fashioned with buffalo trace, Wellsbourne, West LA.

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                                                                            1. re: kevin

                                                                              happy new year -- i've got a bottle of buffalo trace and friends at home waiting for me!

                                                                              1. re: jessejames

                                                                                Enjoy buddy.

                                                                                What you getting for eats to go with that Bufflalo Trace ????

                                                                                1. re: kevin

                                                                                  we are grilling halibut and topping it with crab meat, parsley and garlic butter in a sort of local impersonation of a dish we like at antoines in nola...i've also got some stuff for yakitori including "crack sauce" from mishima market for the evening...lastly some chocolate cheesecake for some last calories for 2013! i'm also tempted to buy one of those whole kosher hard salamis for some noshing as well - i have a soft spot (literally) for that delicacy.

                                                                                  what do you have in store?

                                                                                  1. re: jessejames

                                                                                    Nothing, I think. It may be a very low key evening for me.

                                                                                    Yeah, when you mentioned fish topped with lump crabmeat, I did think NOLA dishes except if you had blackened the fish and replaced the halibut with drumfish.

                                                                                    Where you getting the cheesecake from or making it homemade ?????

                                                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                                                      i like being low key on NYE -- total amateur hour in LA.

                                                                                      I've never successfully blackened fish, but the grill works reasonably well.

                                                                                      Mother in law made the cheesecake...way above my paygrade except for the eating part.

                                                                                      1. re: jessejames

                                                                                        I picked up prime filets this morning at 6:30AM from Harvey's Guss (Harvey is such a kick to talk to) and intend on grilling them and some asparagus and baked potatoes and some yams.

                                                                                        1. re: Servorg

                                                                                          enjoy servorg. i like harvey too, and his beef!

                                                                                          1. re: jessejames

                                                                                            Yeah. Have a great time buddies.

                                                                                            I'll have to chatt up Mr. Guss one day too.

                                                                            2. I also adore the fact that I can get a glass of the Gavi di Gavi at my local pizza joint, Il Ritrovo. Is a good thing they don't have a bar or I would sit there all day waiting to pick my kids up from school....

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                                                                              1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                "Is a good thing they don't have a bar or I would sit there all day waiting to pick my kids up from school...."

                                                                                The kids would end up having to call a cab when you didn't show up.

                                                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                                                    It's very good, we like it. I like both their NY & Neapolitan style pizzas. Good salads & pasta too.

                                                                                1. Chi Chi's and Piña Coladas at Damon's with smoked ribs; Martini's at Musso's and Franks'. Mai Tai's at trader Vic's. Whisky at Ireland's 32. Gin & Tonics with fried appys @ Robin Hood. Margaritas at Casa Vega and El Coyote.

                                                                                  1. Woodford Reserve Manhattan with Antica Vermouth, dash of bitters, and a Luxardo Cherry at Black Market Liquor in Studio City

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                                                                                    1. Ice teller at Ramayani.

                                                                                      1. Drinks are a funny thing--they vary, much like the setting they are enjoyed in. I had an unforgettable Moscow Mule in Napa--it was early July, the sun hadn't quite set, it was still almost 100 degrees. I was sitting on the patio at Bouchon in Yountville and never has a Moscow mule tasted as perfect. I'm almost afraid to order one since. I know it won't be as good.
                                                                                        I hate sake, but LOVE the passion fruit sake at Matsuhisa.
                                                                                        I order a margarita at almost every Mexican restaurant I go to--and Petty Cash has the best one I've ever had.
                                                                                        I miss, so much, the old Trader Vics. It was always so much fun to see what would adorn your cocktail.
                                                                                        I've had some great cocktails at Mixology (think green juice with vodka) but don't love the prices ($14 and up).
                                                                                        The Carousel Bar in the Monteleone Hotel in New Orleans makes a mean Ramos Gin Fizz. I wouldn't dare order it anywhere else.
                                                                                        I've had many many forgettable cocktails in LA, NYC, and between….Forgettable because they were awesome, we were partying, and that's about all I can recall. But as I get older, I find that one or two spectacularly made cocktails or really good wine or beer hits the spot for me more than a lot of the cheap strong drinks of my youth. Quality over quantity these days. Well, some days at least. God, I'm getting so mature :)

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                                                                                        1. re: schrutefarms

                                                                                          Oh yeah, that pineapple-infused sake at Matsuhisa is a must-get...

                                                                                          1. re: J.L.

                                                                                            Really ??????????

                                                                                            No jokeeeeee ???????????????????

                                                                                            1. re: J.L.

                                                                                              The pineapple is great-we had to switch to it one night after we drank the house dry of the passion fruit :)

                                                                                          2. Depends on the circumstances and who's paying. If I'm waiting for my take-out order, I'll have a cold beer. If I'm dining with family it's LI iced tea w/myers rum. If I'm sitting at the bar with friends, I'll have a shot of wild turkey with a beer backup. If we're sitting at a piano bar and I'm not driving, I'll have a 'screaming chicken'.

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                                                                                            1. re: mucho gordo

                                                                                              what's a screaming chicken ??????

                                                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                                                That's the name I know it as but other bars may have a different name for it. I think one place calls it screeching monkey.
                                                                                                It's equal parts green chartreuse and myers 151. For sippin' only; Very potent ( for me).

                                                                                            2. Boysenberry Punch @ Knotts Berry Farm

                                                                                              1. as of tonight,

                                                                                                fidencio mezcal

                                                                                                call me fickle