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New Years Eve on the Westside - 4 women and me

Wayno Dec 8, 2013 11:10 AM

Trying to choose a place for a nice NYE dinner, with good food and a pretty happening scene, but in moderation. It will be my SO and 3 of her out-of-town friends (all 4 of whom are late-30s women and Michigan State grads going to the Rose Bowl the next day) and me a late 50s male (who didn’t go to MSU and is going to pass on the game). Because they want to save themselves for the game, we are going to have an early (7:30ish) dinner and probably be home in bed or the hot tub before midnight; but, they still do want something of a trendy LA “scene,” since the guests are coming from Detroit, Denver and Austin. We (especially I) want good food, but too cutting edge or sophisticated offerings are not warranted, as these ladies likely wouldn’t know uni from unagi or burrata from bottarga. Based on reservation availability, and my unwillingness to head too far east from the Palisades, I am looking at Tasting Kitchen, Tavern, Hals and maybe Salt Air. I’ve eaten solo at all those, but would like others’ input as to which may be most appropriate. I like the AK spots because there’s a good street scene and multiple places for a drink before the night gets too late and too crazy. Thought about Il Grano, but that would be too quiet and not hipster enough to titillate the auslanders. And Toscana is more than I want to spend. Thoughts?

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  1. Baron Dec 8, 2013 11:34 AM

    Cafe del Rey in the Marina for the dinner and the scene. Then you can walk around AK if you can find parking.

    1. cookie monster Dec 8, 2013 11:44 AM

      I think AK is an excellent idea, and would add Gjelina to your list of possibilities, if the menu and no substitutions/deletions/modifications policy works for your group. If you think a more traditional menu would be better, I'd go with Hal's.

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      1. re: cookie monster
        Wayno Dec 8, 2013 12:57 PM

        Gjelina isn't available at the desired time frame; that's why I didn't include it among the restaurants between which I'm trying to decide (though I like Tasting Kitchen as much as Gjelina). Hal's is certainly a safer bet, I agree, but I like it more as a drinking spot than for its food.

      2. perk Dec 8, 2013 02:01 PM


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          yogachik Dec 8, 2013 02:03 PM

          Chaya Venice or Chinois would be top on the list, for me.

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          1. re: yogachik
            Thor123 Dec 8, 2013 02:35 PM

            May be a bit over the price point though. Both are likely Pre-fixed.

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              Servorg Dec 8, 2013 02:36 PM

              What about Tar & Roses?

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            Thor123 Dec 8, 2013 02:34 PM

            The Galley might be fun. Hal's is a good choice.

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            1. re: Thor123
              kevin Dec 8, 2013 10:19 PM

              Never been to the galley ?

              Tell me mor Thor.

              1. re: kevin
                westsidegal Dec 8, 2013 11:30 PM

                the galley is an old time steak house.
                their bar is the very best if you're looking for a place where "everyone knows your name."

                i've been known to drive past 20 other bars in order to get their martini and it is not because of their gin, it is because of the homeyness and friendliness of the folks there.
                best description is DOWN TO EARTH.

                imho, the galley, as much as i love it, does NOT provide anything like the <<pretty happening scene>> that the OP requested. it is almost the antithesis of a happening scene with christmas lights being strung through the restaurant all year long.
                if you think that baked potatoes wrapped in tin foil are ok, maybe their food would work for you.

                1. re: westsidegal
                  kevin Dec 9, 2013 10:12 AM

                  WG, this place sounds beyond exceptional based on your loving description.

                  I will hit it up.

                  Update: also based on YC's description too.

                  1. re: westsidegal
                    Thor123 Dec 13, 2013 10:43 AM

                    I think the Galley is a very fun lively scene. Certainly not fancy but a cool vibe, great clams and drinks. Just think it would be fun on NY.

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                  yogachik Dec 9, 2013 08:35 AM

                  Great happy hour at The Galley! Hot dogs for $2, Hamburgers for $4, drinks are $5. It's kind of like Chez Jay, only it attracts more the guys just off the boat in the Marina, rather than the guys just stepping away from their screenwriting.

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                    kevin Dec 9, 2013 10:10 AM

                    Yogachik, if it's kind of like Jays I will like it.

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                      JeMange Dec 9, 2013 12:19 PM

                      Very close to Chez Jay but the food is (marginally) better.

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                        Dirtywextraolives Dec 9, 2013 04:24 PM

                        Weren't they supposed to have good steamers? Or am I confusing that with another joint?

                        1. re: Dirtywextraolives
                          kevin Dec 9, 2013 04:32 PM


                          Don't order the steamers here.

                          If you do go, go for brunch on a Sat or Sun, and sluice it down with a litany of cocktails or martinis.

                          1. re: Dirtywextraolives
                            JeMange Dec 10, 2013 01:15 PM

                            They don't have proper steamers but they do have steamed hardshell clams in a bucket, which are pretty solid IMO.

                      2. re: yogachik
                        westsidegal Dec 10, 2013 12:16 PM

                        yogachick: re The Galley

                        actually, more than anything else, it attracts the locals.
                        it attracts screenwriters (including the ones who write the soap in which one of the bartendresses has an ongoing role)
                        it attracts the retired old folk: some curmudgeons, some charming.
                        it attracts the young starving artists
                        it attracts tradesmen and mechanics
                        it attracts young folk who like the cheap drinks
                        it attracts the people who don't have a car and take the bus home at 11:30.
                        it attracts young guys who come to watch the game.
                        it attracts the people who drive there in their mercedes.
                        it's a place where young people can bring their parents on the way to the airport and BOTH the kid and the parent will be comfortable and will find age-appropriate conversation.
                        it attracts musicians.

                        i've never seen anyone from the boats in the Marina there.
                        the Marina crowd can normally be found at Cafe del Rey where they breakfast, lunch, and dinner at the bar. i'm told that the Marina boat crowd also hangs at Tony P's but have no personal experience at Tony P's to confirm.

                        1. re: westsidegal
                          linus Dec 13, 2013 08:53 AM

                          would you say the galley is a good enough time to drive in from parts inland?
                          say, somewhere between the 405 and the 5?

                          1. re: linus
                            jessejames Dec 13, 2013 09:15 AM

                            not in my opinion, it's a local bar

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                              westsidegal Dec 13, 2013 10:35 AM

                              not unless you plan to be a regular.

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                                Servorg Dec 13, 2013 10:40 AM

                                That won't work...linus is as irregular a hound as we have on the LA board...

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                                  linus Dec 13, 2013 11:57 AM

                                  why servorg, i go at least once a day every day...

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                                    kevin Dec 13, 2013 12:26 PM

                                    Which bar ?????????

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                                      linus Dec 13, 2013 02:32 PM

                                      well played, sir.

                      3. ipsedixit Dec 8, 2013 06:14 PM

                        STK or Church Key

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                        1. re: ipsedixit
                          Thor123 Dec 13, 2013 12:02 PM

                          Have you been to Church Key?

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                          jessejames Dec 8, 2013 07:42 PM

                          Hals is fun

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                            nosh Dec 8, 2013 09:06 PM

                            When are they flying in? If that day, remember they are on central time and two hours ahead. Go to The Penthouse for drinks before sunset -- before 5 -- for the fantastic view. Then move up your dinner to 6:30 and maybe Gjelina is open.

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                              maudies5 Dec 8, 2013 10:11 PM

                              The Brentwood is a lot of fun on NYE. Regular menu and very lively crowd

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                              1. re: maudies5
                                kevin Dec 8, 2013 10:20 PM

                                Someone also once stated that Valentino is exceptional on NyE.

                                And it goes without saying: quite pricey to boot.

                              2. k
                                kevin Dec 8, 2013 10:18 PM

                                Tanas. And please save me a seat.

                                Are the three women single ? :)

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                                1. re: kevin
                                  jessejames Dec 9, 2013 08:36 AM

                                  noting "hot tub scene"!

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                                    kevin Dec 9, 2013 10:13 AM

                                    Hot tub action is always great.

                                    It would be
                                    Great to
                                    Live in a hot tub time machine.

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                                  Dirtywextraolives Dec 9, 2013 09:06 AM

                                  If the weathers nice, you might want to look at Zengo or Sonoma Wine Garden in the SaMo Place mall. Both very Cali vibe and decent enough food. Zengo's brunch is reasonable, don't know about NYE, though.

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                                  1. re: Dirtywextraolives
                                    kevin Dec 9, 2013 10:16 AM


                                    Dirty sexy olives, I've actually never tried these joints at the Santa Monica Place mall. But it may be a little dead on NYE, though I may be completely wrong.

                                    Though it may be an option.

                                    I'll have to think good and hard about an only in LA joint with a crazy dope scene and good food.

                                    Btw. C&T's this week? First drink On me. If you are down. I'll email you. :). If Busy w holidays no worries.

                                    1. re: kevin
                                      Dirtywextraolives Dec 9, 2013 04:22 PM

                                      Twist my arm..... ;)

                                      1. re: Dirtywextraolives
                                        nosh Dec 9, 2013 06:36 PM

                                        I will be at C & T's tomorrow night, 7:45 reservation. My profile has my email -- would enjoy meeting and attaching faces to screennames.

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                                          Dirtywextraolives Dec 13, 2013 07:54 AM

                                          So sorry, nosh, just saw this... Hope you enjoyed your chowder....this season is a bit too busy for me to sneak away right now....

                                  2. Wayno Dec 9, 2013 10:49 AM

                                    Update from the OP, with some info that may be helpful to others. Had a reservation at Tasting Kitchen, but cancelled b/c the only menu is prix fixe at $190/pp., with wine pairings an additional $60. Neither the price nor the esoteric offerings would appeal to my crew. Tavern has an $85 prix fixe on NYE, which is much more reasonable, but for this group I don't want a prix fixe. Hence, we are booked at Salt Air, which I like, and (at least for now) are not planning a prix fixe for NYE. I did also think about The Brentwood, but didn't think it would be that lively, but I guess I'm wrong.

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                                    1. re: Wayno
                                      kevin Dec 9, 2013 12:18 PM

                                      Do some research on Brentwood. If Madies is right it might be a great choice too.

                                      1. re: kevin
                                        maudies5 Dec 9, 2013 12:44 PM

                                        The Brentwood really is a lot of fun. Great bar scene, good looking crowd and no fixed price menu. Also, if one overindulges and lives in the area it is relatively inexpensive to use Uber to get home.

                                        1. re: maudies5
                                          kevin Dec 9, 2013 01:44 PM

                                          Sounds good.

                                          1. re: maudies5
                                            Wayno Dec 9, 2013 02:26 PM

                                            What's Uber?

                                            1. re: Wayno
                                              kevin Dec 9, 2013 02:31 PM

                                              ride sharing service that you call up via your phone apps.

                                              1. re: Wayno
                                                ns1 Dec 9, 2013 02:38 PM

                                                ridesharing service, like Lyft/Sidecar

                                                1. re: Wayno
                                                  maudies5 Dec 9, 2013 03:42 PM


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                                                  Thor123 Dec 13, 2013 12:43 PM

                                                  Love The Brentwood. Great fried chicken. Also wins for darkest room in the City.

                                              2. re: Wayno
                                                Dirtywextraolives Dec 13, 2013 01:13 PM

                                                The Hungry Cat is doing a three course for $85 a head. Hey, do you know if the Casa is doing anything special? That would be easy peasy for us.....we don't normally go out on NYE.

                                                1. re: Dirtywextraolives
                                                  jessejames Dec 13, 2013 01:50 PM

                                                  Nye is fucking amateur nite in la I'm with u getting together at friends or home better.

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                                                    Dirtywextraolives Dec 14, 2013 08:17 AM


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                                                VenusCafe Dec 10, 2013 12:00 PM

                                                Please, I seem to be the only one ignorant of the use of 'AK',
                                                so someone please enlighten me IN WORDS; i am sooo tired
                                                of communicating in LETTERS>

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                                                1. re: VenusCafe
                                                  westsidegal Dec 10, 2013 12:36 PM

                                                  abbot kinney

                                                  1. re: VenusCafe
                                                    granadafan Dec 30, 2013 06:26 PM

                                                    Fully agreed. Not everyone is an expert on certain locales. Also, please give the full name of the places and city. It's hard to look up places with only partial info.

                                                  2. m
                                                    maudies5 Dec 29, 2013 08:45 AM

                                                    Ivy at the Shore has a great NYE menu. The restaurant would seem to fit all that you are looking for, including proximity to Pacific Palisades

                                                    1. k
                                                      kevin Dec 30, 2013 06:01 PM

                                                      Tanas all the way.

                                                      1. Wayno Jan 7, 2014 10:32 AM

                                                        Mini report back on my inquiry. The 4 MSU gals and I wound up at Salt Air for the NYE dinner and were very happy with it (after cancelling res at other places because we wanted to avoid pricey price fixes). Split some lobster rolls to start - cheaper than, and as good as, Blue Plate's and way better than Cousins (which I'd had at their brick & mortar place in Pasadena the previous week). I had the grilled octopus with beluga lentils and a side of pearl couscous with chard. Thought both were excellent, esp the octopus. GF's fish stew was tasty, but my impression was limited to the single shrimp I pilfered. A healthy portion of corn fritters was the complimentary amuse. Service is very pleasant and reliable there, and they make interesting cocktails out of fortified wines and beer. And excellent desserts. So it all worked out (and the ladies loves the Rose Bowl and MSU's victory). Thanks for all the suggestions.

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                                                        1. re: Wayno
                                                          Dirtywextraolives Jan 7, 2014 10:49 AM

                                                          What's the atmosphere like there, Wayno? And is this the place in Santa Monica or Venice? I think I'm confusing the two....

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                                                            Servorg Jan 7, 2014 10:55 AM

                                                            Abbot Kinney 90291 http://www.saltairvenice.com/

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                                                              Wayno Jan 7, 2014 11:52 AM

                                                              As Serv said, it's in Venice on AK, toward the eastern end of the hub of activity. I really l like the atmosphere/vibe: casual and vibrant, but light and bright as opposed to Gjelina/TK dark. Pretty people. Nice bar area, with narrow counters on the walls for easy stand-up drinking if the stools are full. Dirty, we still need to meet up in the 'sades.

                                                              1. re: Wayno
                                                                Dirtywextraolives Jan 7, 2014 12:38 PM

                                                                Yes, yes we do! Wonder when tat new sushi joint at the bottom of our hill is going to open......

                                                                1. re: Dirtywextraolives
                                                                  Wayno Jan 7, 2014 02:18 PM

                                                                  After a somewhat disappointing breakfast at Mimi on Saturday (actually, I liked my crepes, but R didn't think much of her pricey scrambled eggs), we walked into the prospective sushi joint. It's going to be quite a while before sushi is being served there; the construction is going very, very slowly. The Starbucks likely will be open sooner. There also used to be a sign for an Art's Original Diner by those same storefronts, but I guess that's not going to happen.

                                                                  1. re: Wayno
                                                                    Dirtywextraolives Jan 7, 2014 02:24 PM

                                                                    Yes, I remember seeing those signs for Art's deli too, I believe that deal fell through.....

                                                                    And just what we need, another Starbucks..... The one less than half a mile away in the Von's market isn't good enough? And I fear what that parking lot will look like after it goes in, it's such a mess as it is now....so glad my son's karate place moved and I don't have to frequent that strip once a week anymore....

                                                                    1. re: Wayno
                                                                      Dirtywextraolives Jan 7, 2014 02:26 PM

                                                                      We've not had breakfast there before, just lunch. We enjoyed the brunch there when it was Mogan's.....

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                                                              kevin Jan 7, 2014 12:53 PM

                                                              Count me in too, I stil can't believe I haven't made it to Maison Giraud.

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                                                                Wayno Jan 7, 2014 02:15 PM

                                                                Kevin, you should come up to the farmers market some Sunday, and we'll meet for coffee, croissants or brunch at MG.

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