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Unintentional consequences from being a Chowhound..........

jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 06:51 AM

I’ve come to realize because of my participation here I have experienced some very unintentional and unexpected consequences. The biggest consequence I have noticed which I find very ironic; because of Chow my “fast-food” eating has increased. I was never more than a couple times a year Mc Donald’s eater (outside of breakfast items), I haven’t eaten anything from Burger King in 5+ years.

I have CNBC on in my office during the day; they routinely do segments on Mc Donald’s and fast food in general. A recent segment concentrated on the Big King, from Burger King, a burger to rival Mc Donald’s Big Mac. Generally when I hear these segments I listen to them, then go to the Chains board and post what I hear on CNBC. But once I do that it plants a seed, one that I wouldn't ordinarily have, I normally wouldn't pay much attention to fast food segments on CNBC, but now with the intention of sharing on Chow I do. So I watch the segment on the Big King, I post about it, and the seed is planted in the back of my mind.

{{Don’t forget to try that Big King, they loved it on CNBC}}

Next thing you know I’m driving my son somewhere and I’ll say, hey you want to grab a burger for lunch, I hear Burger King has a new sandwich! This has been the case several times over the past year, with Mc Donalds, Wendy’s etc.

I find it rather ironic, I normally despise fast food, I love good steaks and fine dining, yet Chow has me eating more fast food than ever before. lol So have any of you noticed any unexpected consequences from your participation here?

  1. b
    blackpointyboots Dec 7, 2013 03:52 PM

    I buy almost everything I need for the kitchen at the restaurant supply store.
    I check what unusual grocery stores I should try to stop at when I plan travel.
    I have a horrible time getting people to go along with my weird obsession with trying new types of food.

    1. YAYME Dec 6, 2013 08:55 AM

      Because of Chowhound or rather the spirits board I've grown to like gin and whiskey. I've drunk all sorts of cocktails.
      I've become enamored of Siricha. And sought out old fashioned recipes and candies. I've made stocks out of chicken bones and the remains of shellfish. I've learned so much and heard so many wonderful stories. I would never have imagined anything as lovely as Ramos Gin Fizz before I went on Chow. Now it's my favorite cocktail.

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      1. re: YAYME
        jrvedivici Dec 6, 2013 09:19 AM

        YAYYOU!! Big + 1 for the Spirits Board shout out!!

      2. t
        treb Dec 6, 2013 08:25 AM

        You can eliminate some food pressure by tuning CNBC out!

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        1. re: treb
          jrvedivici Dec 6, 2013 08:39 AM

          After seeing the segment yesterday about the "fudged" employment numbers from just before the election last year, then seeing today's employment figures, I think I just might.

          1. re: treb
            acssss Dec 6, 2013 09:22 AM

            ...economics, politics, M&A, stocks, bonds, start-ups, technology, innovation, information, sport scores, weather, and top stories of the day... all on one screen to read without having to listen to some idiot provide me with their personal opinions on various topics... what could be better?

            ...and it has never given me "food pressure" :-)

          2. Beach Chick Dec 6, 2013 08:21 AM

            Food pics really are porn to me now. .

            Instead of picking travel destinations for the beach/ 5* resorts, I travel now for the food.

            I realize they're more freaks like me, that love the Filet O' Fish with extra tartar sauce and a small fry squished together.

            I dream more in food.

            I've become intolerant of non-food lovers, whom just eat for the fuel aspect of it all.

            1. Nevy Dec 6, 2013 07:11 AM

              That's so interesting that other CH'ers are mentioning more fast food meals.

              I've become the opposite. I find myself carefully planning side trips to Chow places that I normally would never try on my before. I also find myself having a large pantry of gourmet snacks that I would normally not pick up. The CH effect on my Costco trips are quite large! I have the following all unopened...2 bags of organic dark chocolate covered cherries, 2 boxes of chocolate covered toffees from France, a box of butter biscuit from Belgium, Lacey's dark chocolate macadamia cookie, box of Swiss Florentine (almond and pecans with a variety of dark and milk chocolate coatings). This just happened from the past 3 weeks!

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                Bryan Pepperseed Dec 6, 2013 07:02 AM

                I now find myself a little more disappointed than I used to be when family members don't want to be as "adventurous" as I think they should - even for simple things.
                For example, just the other day I was told, "I don't think so, I like it the regular way" when I suggested (based on a chow post) that for our next batch of brownies from a box we could substitute 1/2 coffee 1/2 dark rum for the water.

                1. lamb_da_calculus Dec 5, 2013 05:40 PM

                  I feel like I understand middle-aged people better (I'm 21).

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                  1. re: lamb_da_calculus
                    c oliver Dec 5, 2013 06:21 PM

                    Not sure I understand that :)

                    1. re: c oliver
                      lamb_da_calculus Dec 5, 2013 06:39 PM

                      Chowhound is dominated by discussions between middle-aged people, which is not something I experience very much in real life.

                      1. re: lamb_da_calculus
                        c oliver Dec 5, 2013 06:52 PM

                        Really? A few years ago a "survey" was informally done and IIRC the average (can't remember if it was median) age was early 40s. Hardly middle-aged :)

                        1. re: c oliver
                          jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 07:00 PM

                          To a 21 year old mid 40's is middle aged. Lol

                          1. re: jrvedivici
                            c oliver Dec 5, 2013 07:20 PM

                            I guess I don't understand how a 20 y.o. view of food is different than a 40 or a 60 (or a 66 as *I* am). Other than the older we get, probably the better we are able to judge good food.

                            1. re: c oliver
                              dmjordan Dec 7, 2013 09:03 AM

                              My 20 yo view of food is way different than my 48 yo view, especially when it comes to home cooking, cooking equipment, restaurants. Basically anything involved with having more money, a different lifestyle (feeding just me vs. feeding a husband). Also, I'm not sure why, but older me likes a wider variety of foods than younger me.

                              1. re: dmjordan
                                HillJ Dec 7, 2013 09:07 AM

                                I also enjoy a wider variety of foods but I mostly attribute that change to better access. 20 years ago, I couldn't step into a wide range of ethnic foods for instance unless I traveled to the country of food origin or the home of someone brought up in that culture.

                                Now, restaurants and food markets are completely international and my curiosity grew with it.

                            2. re: jrvedivici
                              ricepad Dec 5, 2013 07:23 PM

                              HA! To a 21 y/o, mid-40s is ANCIENT!

                              1. re: jrvedivici
                                Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 07:27 PM

                                I am taking a wild guess that lamb_da_calculus (21 yo) is that people at their 40's take no responsibility for their actions, and he (being 20's yo) finally saw a glimpse of why he won't able get his social security.


                              2. re: c oliver
                                linguafood Dec 6, 2013 08:27 AM

                                Seriously? What, if not 40s, would you consider middle-aged?

                                Given a life expectancy of roughly 80, that's about as middle-aged as it gets.

                                And from the perspective of a 21 year old, 40 is ancient.

                                1. re: linguafood
                                  c oliver Dec 6, 2013 08:42 AM

                                  I guess since when I was 21 and was dating men in their 40s, I just never looked at it that way.

                                  1. re: c oliver
                                    linguafood Dec 6, 2013 09:49 AM

                                    Yeah, so did I. They're still 'middle-aged'.

                                    1. re: linguafood
                                      jrvedivici Dec 6, 2013 10:59 AM

                                      I prefer considering myself "distinguished".

                                      1. re: jrvedivici
                                        c oliver Dec 6, 2013 11:05 AM

                                        We have a friend in Brazil whose English is pretty good and he loves learning American slang. Terms like "bumper to bumper." This last trip I taught him "old as dirt." I'm 66 so if 40s are middle-aged.... :)

                                        1. re: c oliver
                                          jrvedivici Dec 6, 2013 11:11 AM

                                          C, are you trying to tell me when you were in your 20's you were dating men in their 40's and now that you are in your 60's that hasn't changed?

                                          {{winking}} (I read ya' loud and clear)

                                          1. re: jrvedivici
                                            c oliver Dec 6, 2013 11:15 AM

                                            Nah, I figured out many years ago that I needed to change that or I'd be getting my dates from the "old folks home." So I married Bob who's only three years older. Actually I married him twice!

                                        2. re: jrvedivici
                                          linguafood Dec 6, 2013 01:06 PM

                                          Of course you do :-D

                                          1. re: jrvedivici
                                            EWSflash Dec 6, 2013 08:05 PM

                                            Don't we all! I know I do

                                  2. re: lamb_da_calculus
                                    HillJ Dec 5, 2013 07:03 PM

                                    LOL...if you must lamb..at least up the anty...very hip, fun loving, creative middle aged people who know good chow!

                              3. PotatoHouse Dec 5, 2013 04:16 PM

                                Your first mistake was watching CNBC...

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                                  Taralli Dec 5, 2013 02:41 PM

                                  Spontaneously formed a small lunch-mostly group w/folks just met at my 1st big chow down, & we're still getting together some 6 plus years later. Some of the original members who moved away for new jobs drop us an email when they know they'll be in Boston, & we get together.

                                  1. Gastronomos Dec 5, 2013 02:26 PM

                                    I've been a self professed chowhound for as long as I can remember. As a child I would recognize the chow for what it was. And I would comment on it. Despite what adult I was around and their comments.

                                    I've tried a lot. Still lots to try.

                                    I'm not a burger type of guy. Nor am I fixed on pizza.

                                    I look for deliciousness. Anywhere. Everywhere.

                                    It's hard around here in the shadow of New York City, believe it or not, to find deliciousness anywhere. Mediocrity abounds.

                                    That still hasn't stopped me from chowhounding every neighborhood I come across.

                                    Sometimes, albeit usually fleetingly, a bout of deliciousness rears its head. It's usually made by some great home cook who opened up a hole in the wall in a strip shopping center and ultimately fails. And by fails I will include that in order to keep in business many have to dumb down their food and that's even worse than closing the doors.

                                    People like bland.

                                    Bland sells to the masses.

                                    Chowhounds are a different breed.

                                    We thrive on flavor.

                                    We live for the taste.

                                    We seek it at all times.

                                    In all places.

                                    We wander into neighborhoods we have no business in to eat at a place that caters to our tastes.

                                    We are a uneasy clan of nonconforming misfits. Bland for the masses just doesn't cut the mustard for us. A motley group whom deliciousness is found in unassuming places, yet we seek it out in some of the strangest places, sometimes right under our very own noses.

                                    That said, an "Unintentional consequence from being a Chowhound.........." was found in my patronizing a "Chipotle Mexican Grill" and ordering a veggie bol.

                                    Why? The world may never know...

                                    4 Replies
                                    1. re: Gastronomos
                                      c oliver Dec 5, 2013 02:28 PM

                                      Curious what you have against burgers and pizza.

                                      1. re: c oliver
                                        Gastronomos Dec 5, 2013 02:37 PM

                                        Oh! nothing. I just don't obsess over them as some do.
                                        I enjoy either. or both.

                                      2. re: Gastronomos
                                        jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 02:41 PM

                                        "I'm not a burger type of guy"

                                        Well now we know what you did wrong! You ordered the dam burger!!!

                                        1. re: jrvedivici
                                          Gastronomos Dec 5, 2013 02:44 PM

                                          and you see what that gets a guy like me....!


                                          cross - post humor from jr.... is like a Hallmark card, when you only care enough to send the very best!

                                      3. sherrib Dec 5, 2013 02:21 PM

                                        CH (and CHers) enables me in my cookware (and now cookbook) obsessions. Is it an addiction? Most definitely yes. Is it bad to enable my addictions? Yes. But it's the kind of thing that doesn't hurt anybody so, so be it! As long as I can afford to be addicted, there's no downside. Except I might need a bigger kitchen and a library in my home would be nice too.

                                        1. c oliver Dec 5, 2013 01:05 PM

                                          Forgot to mention that in our travels, here and abroad, many/most of our really good meals come from CH recs.

                                          1. Gio Dec 5, 2013 11:51 AM

                                            Because of Chowhound:
                                            I don't go to chain/fast food joints.
                                            I know what to scout at Trader Joe's for good eats.
                                            I get inspiration for meals.
                                            My cookbook collection has grown enormously. Oh boy has it!
                                            The cookbooks I own get more use than previously.
                                            My spice cabinet had to be enlarged.
                                            My pantry room shelves are bulging.
                                            My 30 y/o wok has never had such great wok hei.
                                            My knowledge of various cooking techniques has expanded.
                                            My knowledge of the cuisines of other countries has expanded.
                                            I rarely eat take-away Chinese. I can make it myself.
                                            I pay more attention to seasonal/local/fresh produce.
                                            I know what seafood to buy and not buy.
                                            Thanks to lurking on the WW board I've not seen the 15 lbs of unexpected consequences of which Veggo speaks.

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                                            1. re: Gio
                                              sandiasingh Dec 5, 2013 01:01 PM

                                              Agree, Gio. CH is a great resource for learning. I have no interest in manufactured fast food, but when I have a question about home cooking or cookware, there is always someone with a smart answer.

                                            2. j
                                              joonjoon Dec 5, 2013 11:30 AM

                                              So how did you like the Big King?

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                                              1. re: joonjoon
                                                Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 11:40 AM

                                                I am interested too.

                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                  jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 11:52 AM


                                                  And to support my reason for starting this thread, now I'm tempted to buy a Big Mac to compare it. It's been years since I've had one and I don't remember it sucking like the Big King. Full review and displeasure spelled out in this thread;


                                                  1. re: jrvedivici
                                                    joonjoon Dec 5, 2013 01:46 PM

                                                    I haven't tried the Big King, but I still love the Big Mac!

                                                    I thought you weren't a burger guy? ;)

                                                    1. re: joonjoon
                                                      jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 02:37 PM

                                                      EXACTLY!!!!! Lol

                                                      1. re: jrvedivici
                                                        Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 02:41 PM

                                                        So we need to take your opinion on burger with a grain of salt?

                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                          jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 02:49 PM

                                                          I honestly can take or leave a burger, really could care less.

                                                          But now I've noticed I've eaten more burgers, particularly fast food, in the past year than I probably had the 3/5 years prior combined!

                                                          I just realized it after having the Big King and hating it, then thinking "now I've got to try a Big Mac again", which I haven't had in a decade.

                                                          As I'm laughing to myself about this pattern I'm developing I realize it's all Chow.com's fault!

                                                          I accept no responsibility for my actions, the new American way!

                                                          1. re: jrvedivici
                                                            Gastronomos Dec 5, 2013 02:51 PM

                                                            and there in lies the answer to all of our questions

                                                            1. re: jrvedivici
                                                              Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 04:51 PM

                                                              <I accept no responsibility for my actions, the new American way!>

                                                              This is a slogan for some fast food restaurant:

                                                              I accept no responsibility!

                                                      2. re: jrvedivici
                                                        EWSflash Dec 5, 2013 07:07 PM

                                                        How is the Big King different from a Whopper? I've never quite had the nerve to order either one. I have had a couple of bites of a Whopper, and found it to be fantastic.

                                                        1. re: EWSflash
                                                          jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 07:16 PM

                                                          Big King is like a Big Mac, two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese on a sesame seed bun! (With a 3rd bun in the middle of the two beef patties)

                                                          A Whopper is just a single large (1/4 lbs?) beef patty on a bun with lettuce, onion and tomato. (I think, I haven't had one in a very long time)

                                                          I would say the Whopper is more in line with the McD's quarter pounder. But again I'm far from an expert on these topics.

                                                          1. re: jrvedivici
                                                            c oliver Dec 5, 2013 07:18 PM

                                                            What no pickle?

                                                        2. re: jrvedivici
                                                          fourunder Dec 6, 2013 07:42 PM

                                                          I'm a fan of the McRib....recently I noticed BK was offering a version of it for $1......even for a buck, don't do it.

                                                    2. k
                                                      kitchengardengal Dec 5, 2013 11:19 AM

                                                      Because of Chowhound I:

                                                      Ate a McRib.

                                                      Bought a Breville Smart Oven.

                                                      Bought a rice cooker.

                                                      Found out that some people make much more sophisticated dishes than I do.

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                                                      1. re: kitchengardengal
                                                        Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 11:25 AM

                                                        <Ate a McRib. >

                                                        Same. Almost the McFish bite, but that is mostly due to Supertaster.

                                                        <Bought a Breville Smart Oven>

                                                        On my list, I just need to figure which size I should get.

                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                          kitchengardengal Dec 5, 2013 11:36 AM

                                                          If you've got an extra few inches to spare on your countertop, the big Breville is worth every square inch.

                                                          In summer, I use it for almost everything. It fits a 13" pizza pan, a full sized roasting chicken, and toasts an English Muffin better than any toaster I've ever had. And it doesn't heat up the kitchen.

                                                          1. re: kitchengardengal
                                                            Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 11:39 AM

                                                            <the big Breville is worth every square inch>

                                                            That's what some people are telling me too (my friends). They think that the big Breville can for example baking a small chicken, essentially transferring some of the tasks from a regular full size oven to this large toaster oven.

                                                            Whereas the mini-Breville is nice and even heating, but could not transfer any task.

                                                            By the way, how long have you had your Breville? 1 year? 2 years? Thanks.

                                                            1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                              kitchengardengal Dec 5, 2013 11:53 AM

                                                              I think I've had it almost 2 years.
                                                              I've never owned a toaster oven, the little kind like my son used for hotpockets in college. Couldn't see the point in having an appliance just for toast that took up way more space than my single long slot toaster.

                                                              I bought the Breville for the convection, the broiler, the ability to make a batch of brownies without running the big oven.

                                                              Which size to get all depends on how you need to use it. My counter space is very limited, and I wanted an appliance that would get daily use.

                                                              1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                                sherrib Dec 5, 2013 02:17 PM

                                                                I regret getting the smaller one. My kids come home from school starving and need me to heat something up. If I had the bigger one, I could heat up everything for them in there instead of waiting over 20 minutes just for the oven to come to temp. I can make up to three salmon filets in it but it would be even more useful if it could do more. Incidentally, I toast two slices of frozen bread in under two minutes.

                                                                1. re: sherrib
                                                                  kitchengardengal Dec 5, 2013 05:01 PM

                                                                  That big Breville takes less time to preheat than it takes to mix up my 5 ingredient oatmeal bars. Really.
                                                                  That's another thing I love about it.

                                                            2. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                              grangie angie Dec 5, 2013 05:43 PM

                                                              I bought the large size Breville a year ago and love it.....rarely turn on my big oven.
                                                              What I also did was order an extra rack so now I have 2 racks inside,thereby expanding the usable interior space.
                                                              I also got the wooden cutting board(with the heat resistant silicone feet) that sits on top of it.....as the top can get very hot without it.

                                                              1. re: grangie angie
                                                                Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 06:07 PM

                                                                <I also got the wooden cutting board(with the heat resistant silicone feet) that sits on top of it.....as the top can get very hot without it.>

                                                                I am not understanding this part. You put a cutting board on top of the Breville oven because you said that the top of the oven can get very hot without it.

                                                                I don't understand how putting a cutting board on top of a toaster oven will cool it down.

                                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                                  c oliver Dec 5, 2013 06:21 PM

                                                                  That confused me also but for a different reason. Is ga cutting on it? My regular old toaster oven gets quite hot also but I don't care.

                                                                  1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                                    jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 06:27 PM

                                                                    From reading this I do not believe the cutting board does anything to reduce heat generated. It simply acts as a barrier allowing you to use the top of the oven as additional counter, or storage space while using the oven.

                                                                    1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                      Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 07:07 PM

                                                                      Ah. Thanks.

                                                                    2. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                                      kitchengardengal Dec 5, 2013 07:08 PM

                                                                      The cutting board keeps you from stupidly resting your hand on top of the hot oven while opening the door with the other hand.
                                                                      I just happened to have a bamboo cutting board that was exactly the right size, and use that on top. If you want to warm plates while the oven is on, just take the cutting board off.
                                                                      The top gets hotter than the sides, so it does help keep the heat contained in the summer.

                                                                2. re: kitchengardengal
                                                                  c oliver Dec 5, 2013 11:39 AM

                                                                  Ooh, I forgot about the rice cooker. Changed my life - for the better.

                                                                  1. re: c oliver
                                                                    kitchengardengal Dec 5, 2013 07:12 PM

                                                                    Changed my rice - for the better.

                                                                    1. re: kitchengardengal
                                                                      c oliver Dec 5, 2013 07:18 PM

                                                                      That too. Definitely.

                                                                    2. re: c oliver
                                                                      jrvedivici Dec 6, 2013 07:18 AM

                                                                      C, please explain to me the purpose of a rice cooker? Is it just the convenience and security of not burning rice? I've never really had a problem making rice, but all I hear are people talking about how the love their rice cooker, I just don't get it.

                                                                      1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                        c oliver Dec 6, 2013 08:41 AM

                                                                        I sucked at making rice. I can pull off far more complicated things but rice was always a nerve wracking experience. Then former CH Alan Barnes, who's a WAY better cook than I, commented he'd had the same problem. Got one for $15 IIRC. Another nice thing is that it frees up a burner.

                                                                        1. re: c oliver
                                                                          Chemicalkinetics Dec 6, 2013 08:52 AM

                                                                          I am make rice fine from a pot, but I still enjoy a rice cooker. It frees me up to do so many other things.

                                                                        2. re: jrvedivici
                                                                          Hobbert Dec 6, 2013 08:58 AM

                                                                          For me, it's the keep warm feature. I can toss whatever type of rice I feel like having in the rice cooker and have it going way before the rest of the meal. I don't have to think about it and it's perfectly fresh and hot when it's time to eat. I'm obsessed with mine...

                                                                          1. re: Hobbert
                                                                            c oliver Dec 6, 2013 09:20 AM

                                                                            Yep. The stay warm feature is huge for me. When I have something going that requires precise timing it's great to have the rice ready and waiting.

                                                                          2. re: jrvedivici
                                                                            Gastronomos Dec 6, 2013 09:18 AM

                                                                            jr. , it's ok, it's fuzzy logic...

                                                                            1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                              EWSflash Dec 6, 2013 08:03 PM

                                                                              I sprung for a high-zoot Zojirushi rice cooker, and am so glad I did. Put the rice and water in, push the button. It's better at cooking rice than I am, frees a burner, and generally makes life easier, once I taught my males how to make rice. If I didn't have the Zojirushi I would have had one hell of a time getting them to make rice.

                                                                              1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                                ipsedixit Dec 6, 2013 08:21 PM

                                                                                ... please explain to me the purpose of a rice cooker?

                                                                                It allows a person to keep the lights on around here by doing things like this --> http://tinyurl.com/l47fabg

                                                                                1. re: ipsedixit
                                                                                  jrvedivici Dec 7, 2013 05:54 AM

                                                                                  Ha! Do they come with instructions on how to cook rice, or for joining a cult?

                                                                                  1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                                    Veggo Dec 7, 2013 06:10 AM

                                                                                    Jr, if you already have a George Foreman grill, pick up a Warren Jeffs rice cooker and you'll be able to whip up a quick meal the next time you host a cult hootenanny.

                                                                                    1. re: Veggo
                                                                                      jrvedivici Dec 7, 2013 07:42 AM

                                                                                      Haha, no George Forman grill either, maybe I need to revise my letter to Santa.

                                                                                      The only time I ever have "problems" making rice is when I'm making it for fried rice. I prefer the rice to be very firm and dry for fried rice and that can be tricky doing it stove top, but I've gotten better with it over the years.

                                                                                      1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                                        linguafood Dec 7, 2013 08:31 AM

                                                                                        You're not supposed to use freshly cooked rice for fried rice.

                                                                                        It needs to be leftover and a day or two old, thus the different texture.

                                                                                        1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                                          Gio Dec 7, 2013 08:38 AM

                                                                                          Jr., The trick to making good fried rice is to use Cold Day Old rice. Otherwise just made rice becomes gummy, and you don't need that at your age.

                                                                                          We don't have any problems cooking rice of any type rice on the stove top. Just good ratio rice to liquid and good timing always produces perfect rice.

                                                                                          1. re: Gio
                                                                                            Veggo Dec 7, 2013 08:41 AM

                                                                                            Interesting. Do restaurants "age" cooked rice for this?

                                                                                            1. re: Veggo
                                                                                              linguafood Dec 7, 2013 09:08 AM

                                                                                              Most restaurants that offer fried rice tend to have an abundance of leftover rice at any time, so there is no need to "age" it.

                                                                                              1. re: linguafood
                                                                                                fourunder Dec 7, 2013 09:54 AM

                                                                                                The need is arguable... There may not be a need to age the rice....but all Chinese restaurants do, as you noted above, unless they run out and need it in a pinch to make an order complete. For them, it's a necessity to make a better dish and end result.

                                                                                              2. re: Veggo
                                                                                                Gio Dec 7, 2013 10:35 AM

                                                                                                As far as I know they do, Veg.

                                                                                              3. re: Gio
                                                                                                jrvedivici Dec 7, 2013 09:13 AM

                                                                                                That's funny because after years of lack of satisfaction I started to use, unused white rice from our Chinese leftovers to make my fried rice.

                                                                                                I have since found a rice from Trader Joes, that cooks very firm, with a reduced water amount, that I use with good results. Now I will age it a day or two.


                                                                                                1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                                                  Gio Dec 7, 2013 10:33 AM

                                                                                                  That's exactly what we did before we actually cooked a fried recipe from one of the COTMs. We simply make a double batch of rice if we know we want fried rice a day or two later.

                                                                                      2. re: jrvedivici
                                                                                        kitchengardengal Dec 6, 2013 08:26 PM

                                                                                        Jr, I used to make good rice. Now I make lousy rice on the stove. My rice cooker does it better than I can.
                                                                                        Plus I don't have to pay attention. It just gets done while I am cooking other stuff, doing chores, or simply rattling off my opinions about something or other on Chowhound.

                                                                                        1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                                          c oliver Dec 6, 2013 08:37 PM

                                                                                          I'm guessing a lot of Asians use them. When we're visiting our kids in Seattle, we always visit Uwajimaya (?sp) a great Asian market. They must easily have 25 different rice cookers.

                                                                                        2. re: c oliver
                                                                                          rockandroller1 Dec 6, 2013 01:26 PM

                                                                                          My rice has never been worse than when someone gave me a (gently used) rice cooker. I have yet to make rice in it that doesn't burn and stick to the bottom. I have increased the water to double what I originally used and it still burns. I even stop it cooking ahead of time as soon as I think the grains are soft and the bottom is still burnt. I don't get the magic. This never happened when I made rice in a pot.

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                                                                                            c oliver Dec 6, 2013 01:36 PM

                                                                                            I have a hunch that it was given to you because the previous owner had bought a faulty cooker. I've never had it even overcooked much less burned and mine was CHEAP!

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                                                                                              EWSflash Dec 6, 2013 08:04 PM


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                                                                                        acssss Dec 5, 2013 11:18 AM

                                                                                        CNBC is on in my office from 6am to 6pm (muted however). It has caused me to buy/sell stocks that I wouldn't have bought/sold otherwise, but never made me go out and buy a burger :-)

                                                                                        CH has made me eat better, however. One of the things that has always been a problem for me is deciding what to eat. I love to cook, but if we couldn't decide, we'd usually end up eating out. Now, all I have to do is logon and... presto - I have an idea (from the WFD group). Wonderful!

                                                                                        I never saw you on that thread, you should try it!

                                                                                        1. HillJ Dec 5, 2013 11:16 AM

                                                                                          I eat meals out with more information about them ahead of time than I ever would have had before because of CH.

                                                                                          My entire family refers to CH boards during conversations about food and food politics.

                                                                                          I have a deeper respect for online forums.

                                                                                          1. LA Buckeye Fan Dec 5, 2013 11:10 AM

                                                                                            I've had a similar consequence. Not fast food, but supermarket garbage that I love. I've made more frito pies, underwood deviled ham sandwiches and rotel queso dip in the past few years than in the previous 10 before chowhound.

                                                                                            1. paulj Dec 5, 2013 09:25 AM

                                                                                              Has Chowhound consumption of fast food gone down since we no longer get up to date reviews in Supertaster videos?

                                                                                              1. sandiasingh Dec 5, 2013 08:57 AM

                                                                                                That is very weird. You know about pink slime, right?

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                                                                                                  jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 09:10 AM

                                                                                                  Yes I do, but thanks for the reminder. lol

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                                                                                                  INDIANRIVERFL Dec 5, 2013 08:14 AM

                                                                                                  Chowhound is directly responsible for maintaining the typing skills I learned in 1968.

                                                                                                  On the down side, I have wasted a lot of money trying to duplicate the food truck experiences elsewhere in the country.

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                                                                                                    jrvedivici Dec 5, 2013 08:32 AM

                                                                                                    Typing is literally the only class I got an "A" in. (gym excluded) My typing teacher was very "Lynda Carter-ish" and with myself being rather tall even when seated, when she would come over to give me assistance, she would stand behind me and place her hands over mine.....nestling my head between those bodacious Wonder Woman-ish boobs!

                                                                                                    A testament to her excellent teaching skills was my A in typing.

                                                                                                    1. re: jrvedivici
                                                                                                      Sra. Swanky Dec 5, 2013 08:55 AM

                                                                                                      My husband would have gotten that A right along with you! She's been his crush since day one!

                                                                                                  2. ipsedixit Dec 5, 2013 08:09 AM

                                                                                                    I now have Chowhound moderators as pen-pals.

                                                                                                    Very very frequent pen-pals.

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                                                                                                      Veggo Dec 5, 2013 08:11 AM

                                                                                                      Ipse, you get those cute little notes also?

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                                                                                                        Motosport Dec 5, 2013 09:09 AM

                                                                                                        I am expecting one any moment!

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                                                                                                          nosh Dec 7, 2013 08:50 AM

                                                                                                          I sure get those notes regularly, too. First they try to molify you: we realize you were joking; we understand your point of view; we appreciate your participation... Then they tell you your post is banished into ether-heaven. The mods must think our skins are much thinner and more vulnerable than we are -- after all, on the L.A. board they have to protect kevin's feelings?!?

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                                                                                                            HillJ Dec 7, 2013 08:56 AM

                                                                                                            nosh, the thing about moderated forums is that once you realize you're not the ONLY ONE getting deleted the perspective about it tends to level out. Mods put up with our graffiti and we acknowledge the cleanup crew. Seems fair.

                                                                                                    2. Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 08:04 AM

                                                                                                      Yes, many consequences for me as well. Some are more unexpected than others.

                                                                                                      I first join CHOWHOUND to ask about knives. It wasn't a surprised that I get more involved in knives and sharpening stones over time, but the degree which I get involved is more unexpected.

                                                                                                      I also learned more about Fast Food like you (which is also unexpected), and more about making chicken stock, and carbon steel cookware and many other things.

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                                                                                                        Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 08:22 AM

                                                                                                        Of course, CHOWHOUND encourages me to look up random facts such as various version of pony.

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                                                                                                          Veggo Dec 5, 2013 08:32 AM

                                                                                                          Chem, it made you a better person. Next Easter we'll explore bunny rabbits in greater detail.

                                                                                                          1. re: Veggo
                                                                                                            Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 10:32 AM

                                                                                                            I knew this is why I like you so. You are awesome.

                                                                                                      2. Veggo Dec 5, 2013 07:59 AM

                                                                                                        About 15 pounds of unexpected consequences in 7 years.

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                                                                                                          Chemicalkinetics Dec 5, 2013 07:21 PM

                                                                                                          How can you be sure this is the consequence of being CHOWHOUND as opposed to natural body weight gain? :)

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                                                                                                            ipsedixit Dec 6, 2013 08:43 AM

                                                                                                            Being a Chowhound *is* natural for V.

                                                                                                            1. re: ipsedixit
                                                                                                              Veggo Dec 6, 2013 09:04 AM

                                                                                                              With encouragement from my haberdasher and my tailor.

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                                                                                                                ipsedixit Dec 6, 2013 09:35 AM

                                                                                                                My haberdasher found me this great auxetic scarf but I left it in one those damn airport lounges.

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                                                                                                                  Veggo Dec 6, 2013 01:44 PM

                                                                                                                  I will remember auxetic if I am ever stuck with those wretched 7 letters in a Scrabble tournament. My scarfing in airport lounges usually begins in a glass after the first boarding announcement.

                                                                                                                  1. re: Veggo
                                                                                                                    ipsedixit Dec 6, 2013 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                    Don't ever say I am an otiose idiot.

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                                                                                                                      Veggo Dec 6, 2013 02:03 PM

                                                                                                                      My more frequent valediction is adios idiota.

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                                                                                                                        jrvedivici Dec 6, 2013 02:40 PM

                                                                                                                        And farewell to you!

                                                                                                                        1. re: Veggo
                                                                                                                          eclecticsynergy Dec 7, 2013 09:08 PM

                                                                                                                          I have a pal who says, "Veni, vidi, vamanos!"

                                                                                                          2. c oliver Dec 5, 2013 07:51 AM

                                                                                                            Because of CH I now have an induction cooktop range, a Bradley smoker and a sous vide gizmo is en route. I buy more organic, local, etc. food. I have a couple dozen jars of Penzeys spices. You get the picture. I'm poorer but a better cook! Oh, and the cookbooks :)

                                                                                                            1. tcamp Dec 5, 2013 07:11 AM

                                                                                                              Not totally unexpected but due to the What's for Dinner threads on Home Cooking, I tend to spend more time planning dinner and am more likely to make a complete meal. I actually feel like a slacker if I don't!

                                                                                                              Also, I am continually thinking about (but mostly not purchasing) new kitchenware that I NEED. NEED, I tell you.

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                                                                                                                fldhkybnva Dec 5, 2013 09:48 AM

                                                                                                                I agree, I always feel like I need to put a proper meal on the table or else I'm unworthy :)

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                                                                                                                  Ttrockwood Dec 5, 2013 07:12 PM

                                                                                                                  Hahaha- cyber peer pressure??

                                                                                                              2. TeRReT Dec 5, 2013 06:54 AM

                                                                                                                I found enablers for my knife obsession and if it weren't for the wife I would easy have 10 times more knives than I have now. As it stands i was able to get 3 new knives so far with 2 more coming by March for sure.

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