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mayonegg Dec 4, 2013 10:19 AM

Got a sudden, nostalgic craving for black forest cake. Where in Vancouver should I pick one up? Slices preferable to entire cakes, but I'll listen to any and all suggestions!

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    StarryFork Mar 3, 2014 01:34 PM

    Just ordered a BFC from Thierry for an office birthday, and it was terrific. I want more, even though I'm on a sugar high already...

    Lovely dramatic presentation, lacy chocolate top with meringue bits mixed in and scattered cherries, and a thick chocolate "armour" shell of very high quality chocolate all around the cake.

    Very boozy cherries (perhaps a little too much so for the office?), nice texture cake and great whipped cream holding everything together.

    Maybe a wee bit on the sweet side altogether, which I find true of everything from Thierry, but a satisfying BFC overall.

    I don't think they do by the slice except on special occasions.

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      mayonegg Mar 3, 2014 07:32 PM

      Sounds great!

      While I loved the Beta 5 puff, I have yet to have a good, proper cake. Not that I've been spending lots of time tracking one down, mind you -- just whenever I remember to look. I went by Fratelli's but they do whole cakes only. I asked at Ploeger and the owner said they have them "around the summer" when their son is back from school (I guess he's the resident BFC guy).

      I've been meaning for weeks to try Schokolade on Hastings, who definitely do whole BFCs. I like their chocolate bars but have never been to the shop.

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        dennisthefoodie Mar 26, 2014 04:55 PM

        It was my dad's birthday recently so I tried Thierry's BFC and we all enjoyed it a lot! Thanks for the recommendation. We didn't think it was too sweet at all. I wanted to see more analytical pictures of Thierry's BFC so I went ahead and took them myself: http://dennisthefoodie.com/2014/03/26...

         
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          kinnickinnik Mar 26, 2014 06:20 PM

          Lovely blog you got there Dennis!

          And <<drooll>> to the cake pics (crumb carnage and all) and review. I think I feel a BFC craving coming on!

          Nice beer pairing too :-)

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            eatrustic Mar 26, 2014 09:39 PM

            That does look like a pretty nice BFC. What's the ticket and do they come in different sizes?

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              eatrustic Mar 26, 2014 09:56 PM

              Oh, there we go. All on your blog. $50. for a large. thnx.

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          mayonegg Jan 1, 2014 11:35 PM

          My Stuart's BFC was an abomination. Way, WAY too much whipped cream and very little chocolate cake. I think I only tasted one cherry in there, too (not including the one on top). Blech.

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            flowbee Jan 2, 2014 09:11 AM

            Thanks for taking the risk. The quest continues...

          2. queueueuq Dec 24, 2013 02:22 PM

            Not exactly cake, but I tried the BFC cream puff from Beta 5. So good, as are all their cream puffs (though I much prefer the ones that contain custard).

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              NoMoreSnuggles Jan 2, 2014 09:41 AM

              That's funny. I also tried the Beta 5 BF Cream Puff and found it disappointing. I couldn't understand why it had this super sweet frosting on top - tasted a bit like a candied cherry chocolate from a box of Pot of Golds - not the sour cherry deliciousness I was expecting. The other flavours I tried were very good.

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              mayonegg Dec 19, 2013 11:51 PM

              Has anyone tried the BFC from Ploeger? Or any dessert there? Curious to know what they're like.

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                Sam Salmon Dec 20, 2013 08:25 AM

                Ploeger's food is excellent but what passes for 'service' means most people only visit once.

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                  mayonegg Dec 20, 2013 11:16 AM

                  Ah, so Yelp is actually accurate in this case...

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                emtrev Dec 8, 2013 07:30 AM

                The Black Rook on E. Hastings has fantastic selection of cakes. My fav place for a treat. Whole cakes or by the slice.

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                  LotusRapper Dec 8, 2013 08:23 AM

                  Hmm speaking of e. Hastings, I wonder if Italia Bakery makes BFC ?

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                    mayonegg Dec 8, 2013 10:49 PM

                    Thanks -- wasn't aware of Black Rook. Menu looks good (whether or not they have BFC).

                    Don't think I've seen BFC at Italia, though I stopped going there a while ago.

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                    farman Dec 7, 2013 07:16 AM

                    Not quite what you're looking for but I believe Marco has a class that makes what should be a pretty authentic black forest cake at the Pastry Training Centre. He's a German baker and I've really enjoyed his other classes (but haven't taken the black forest cake class)

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                      Philx Dec 4, 2013 09:38 PM

                      Here is an excerpt from another thread on this topic:

                      Yesterday I picked up the Thomas Haas Black Forest - $29. for a 6 - 7 portion serving. Not your usual presentation as it looks sort of like a stylized train caboose but it totally delivers with that combination of good sour cherries (watch out for the odd pit), kirsch and chocolate. Rich but the sour cherries keep it from being over the top.
                      The only thing that's missing is the classic whipped cream icing but I'd still happily buy it again.

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                        mayonegg Dec 4, 2013 11:22 PM

                        Ooh, thanks for the reminder. Been meaning to try theirs but it's always sold out when I go. Good sign, I hope. Stuart's is more convenient so I'll still probably try there first.

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                          eatrustic Dec 6, 2013 07:06 PM

                          Yep, that was my post on the topic and I just have to add that Thomas only makes them during cherry season! I was really disappointed this year to have missed out assuming he did a bit of preserving but no dice.

                          I have an in with the pastry chef/owner of Sweet e's on 41st and although she (like many pastry chefs) has no time for the classic BF cake she gave in to my embarrassing begging and pleading and made me a one-off for my birthday. It was lovely! A high quality classic without any fancy innovation, just what I wanted ;)

                          Sadly that was probably the last one she'll ever do but her Fresh Cherry Pavlova (again only in season) is a pretty stellar riff on the classic...

                      2. LotusRapper Dec 4, 2013 11:59 AM

                        BFC by the slice, eh ? Off top of my head, I can think of:

                        - Anna's Cake House (various)

                        - T & T Supermarket (bakery section)

                        - Max's Deli & Bakery (and their two Stuart's Bakery outlets: Granville Isld market; Oakridge Mall food court)

                        - Valley Bakery (N. Burnaby)

                        - St. Germain Bakery (various)

                        - Nottes Bon Ton Pastries/Confectionary (W. Broadway)

                        - Michelle Cake Shop (Kerrisdale)

                        I know there are many others, but by the slice would see fewer options than by whole cakes. But you can't go wrong with eithe T&T and Max's/Stuart's.

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                          mayonegg Dec 4, 2013 03:09 PM

                          You've tried these all? I may go with Stuart's. (I find Anna's cakes strange, for instance using lots of sponge cake in a Napoleon.) Thanks!

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                            kinnickinnik Dec 4, 2013 06:21 PM

                            I get my BFC fix at Stuart's in Granville Island, mostly because it's nearby. Their individual size BFC hits the spot when the craving strikes :-)

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                              LotusRapper Dec 4, 2013 10:18 PM

                              No I've not. I like BFC but don't go out of my way to seek them. But I do glance around to see what bakeries have what :-)

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                              flowbee Dec 4, 2013 06:26 PM

                              Do all of those places use real cherries? Not maraschino cherries? I could score big points if I brought home a kick-ass authentic black forest cake...

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                                kinnickinnik Dec 4, 2013 06:33 PM

                                Not Stuarts IIRC (it's been a while since I've had one) - maraschino on top and preserves inside.

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                                NoMoreSnuggles Dec 5, 2013 09:24 AM

                                BFC is hands down my family's favourite, so I'm always on the hunt for the perfect one (though I make a pretty mean one myself). THaas' is very good but obviously not the super traditional version you might be craving.

                                Thierry also makes BFC - not by the slice but available in the 1-2 serving size that is the equivalent of a slice. It's very good. A bit on the sweet side but impressive to look at.

                                Cadeaux makes something that's not technically a BFC but hits the spot in a pinch - and it is sometimes available by the slice in the shop. It's got chocolate cake and sour cherries and pistachio cream between the layers.

                                The two that are on my list but I haven't tried yet are:

                                - Chiffon (W. Broadway)
                                - Ganache's Forest Noire (Yaletown)

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                                  grayelf Dec 5, 2013 10:00 AM

                                  FYI Chiffon only has BFC cupcakes and not all the time. If you want a whole BFC, they need two-days' notice.

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                                    NoMoreSnuggles Dec 5, 2013 11:13 AM

                                    Good to know. How is it? Do they use the right cherries?

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                                      grayelf Dec 5, 2013 04:41 PM

                                      Alas, I only have the intel I gave you. Never tried it there!

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                                        NoMoreSnuggles Dec 5, 2013 04:56 PM

                                        I guess I'll have to take that one for the team.

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