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So I finally tried Queen Margherita Pizza

Annette location.
A Margherita, $14

First, something good.
Very pretty waitresses

Now not the so cutie pie.
A thinnish, soft, spongy, flaccid crust. Tasted like charred, yeasty, otherwise undercooked Wonderbread.
I asked if the crust is usually this way and was assured that this is how they make it here. I asked if others complain and was told that some do.
I sent back most of the pie. I got another in replacement, much more cooked indeed, heavily charred.
I was told that it was best eaten while still hot. Sure, then you can't taste anything.
The crust on the new pie tasted only of char, except for the thicker roll forming the edge. This was still spongy and yeasty.
An afterglow of queasiness and regret.

Good for a yuppy seven year old.
Designed as a money factory, both the room and the menu.
Real balls to think that on what they serve they need over 100 seats.
But you know, they are in the business, not me.

Picea997, Dupont and Dovercourt, is miles better. In a different league.

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    1. Vinnie is this your 1st time trying Authentic Neopolitan Pizza? Have you been to Libretto? I'm asking because I'm wondering if you didn't like Queen Margherita, or if you just don't like this style of pizza in general.

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      1. re: kwass

        Was wondering the same thing , however, if he IS a fan of the style and something was amiss here specifically, then that is worrysome

      2. I haven't been here, but I am a die hard fan of the authentic margherita pizza.. and I've been told they do it well here.. I have them ANYWHERE I go that offers it as a menu option, as long as they use the fresh whole mozzerella and have a wood burning pizza oven. This is still on my want-to-try list, regardless

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          1. I'm going to come to the defense of Vinnie here a little bit. I live pretty close to the Annette location of Queen Margherita, and I've been a total of about 6-7 times now. Like all pizza places in the city, it suffers from inconsistency. I have had a pizza at Queen Margherita similar to what Vinnie mentioned and it was not good at all. I have had terrible pizza at Pizzeria Libretto too, and delicious pizza (usually delicious).
            On most of my occasions at Queen Margherita, the pizza was lovely, (which is why I go back time after time), and I am familiar with Neapolitan pizza and the fact that it isn't "crispy". Most of the time, the dough is delicious, well cooked and not "yeasty and undercooked". However, there are so many factors that go into making a great dough, and sometimes, like everywhere I have found, they drop the ball a bit.
            Maybe Queen Margherita was having an off-night and Vinnie, I think you should give them another try...just don't go Sunday evenings, when you are more apt to run into those yuppy seven year olds. :)

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            1. re: icey

              I wasn't attacking Vinnie. I was just curious if it was the style of pizza that he disliked, or QMP in particular.

              1. re: kwass

                Sorry kwass, wasn't responding just to you. More so, in general to everyone that was wondering about whether Vinnie knows or even likes what Neapolitan pizza is. Having had an "undercooked and yeasty" pizza myself at Queen Margherita, I just wanted to share my experience as well.

                1. re: icey

                  Thanks Icey for your sharing your experience at QMP. I've heard a myriad of comments about QMP, Libretto, and Pizza e Pazi on it being too spongey and soggy. Sometimes it does come down to a misunderstanding of the pizza type. Most people are brainwashed to thinking it's either Pizza Hut greasy and hard pan pizza or the cracker thin crunchy Terroni type. My in-laws are this way (ARGH). Your comments show that you know the difference between good and bad Neapolitan pizza. Of the 3 Neapolitan places, which one is your favourite (ignoring restaurant distance)?

                  Also I'm wondering if Vinnie meant 'guppy' 7 year olds. ;)

                    1. re: Nevy

                      Hi Nevy,
                      Unfortunately, I haven't been to Pizza e Pazzi yet. I feel that Libretto probably has the edge over QMP for their interesting toppings. I like the dough at QMP when they actually get it right. I think that the best sauce that I have tried on any pizza is Pizzeria Defina on Roncesvalles.
                      And finally, one of the better overall pizzas I have had recently has been Motorino in Woodbridge. Beautiful leoparding on the crust, tasty dough, and nice fresh toppings.
                      Now too bad we can't get one place that can combine it all together and consistantly!
                      I don't mind the crunchy style pizza either because it is closer to what I get in Northern Italy when I visit my inlaws. For that, I really like Mangia & Bevi.

                      Do you suggest that I give Pizza e Pazzi a try?

                      1. re: icey

                        Some people like Pizza e Pazzi, but I wasn't impressed @ all. I found their's to be the worst of the bunch. The pizza was practically raw in the centre and really watery. Maybe it was an off day, I'm not sure...but I haven't been back. It didn't help that the arancini were also stone cold in the centre.

                        1. re: kwass

                          Kwass ... if my experience was like yours, I'd never return either. That sounds like a horrible experience and I would send the dish back to the kitchen.

                          1. re: Nevy

                            I don't remember if I sent it back to the kitchen. I think I was so disappointed I just decided never to go back.

                        2. re: icey

                          Thank you for all the potential pizza places I can bring my daughter to! She's an uninitiated pizza eater and the only exposure she had was a school pizza delivered by Little Caesar one time. I want her to try the best Toronto can offer so she knows what 'good' is!

                          When I went a some time ago to PIzza e Pazzi, I did enjoy everything. The crust was flavourful with the right amount of char, crunch but also air pockets in the crust to give a nice chew. The toppings were good... not too little and not too much. Just the right amount to not overwhelm the pizza but not too little to feel like you're getting ripped off. Also, my good friend LOVES Pizza e Pazzi ... she literally goes once a month for years. She loves it because the crust has the leoparding spots above while still not overcharring the bottom and making it a cardboard. She also really likes many of the appetizers and speaks well of the service.

                          That being said... you can tell from Kwass and Justsayn that consistency might throw you off. It doesn't appear to be rock solid but then again, it doesn't seem QMP and PL is consistent either. I would really like to hear your thoughts on whether Pizza e Pazzi has held up well over time and compares to your list.

                          I've heard of Motorino as being a 'must go' place in Woodbridge. Now it's definitely on my list of places to try because of your note.

                          1. re: Nevy

                            Adding yet another personal opinion into this obviously subjective mix...on my one visit to QMP (original location) years ago, I had seriously lacklustre service and a very mediocre pizza. I also never went back. I've been to Pizza e Pazzi twice - friendly service and good, but not great, pizza. For me, Pizzeria Libretto (both locations) is the clear winner - love the dough, the charring and crispy/chewy balance, the toppings and the chili oil. They also have wonderful salads and soups, good calamari and some tasty fried gnocchi with creme fraiche and chives. And I'm not sure how old your daughter is but the kid-friendly factor at PL, and their service in general, is off the charts wonderful. You can make reservations at the Danforth location.

                            1. re: peppermint pate

                              I had a very similar experience as pp and GG at QMP.
                              Surly service.meh pizza they ran out of lettuce(the night before) for the pre fixe menu(whatsamatta you can't run to the fricken' store or something?) One visit was enough for me.
                              Libretto was much better and Fabbrica had a very good Neapolitan pie($20.00.. a little spendy for me)

                              1. re: peppermint pate

                                but were the waitresses really cute???

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