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What cookbooks have you bought recently, or are you lusting after? December 2013 edition! [to 12/31/13]

buttertart Dec 1, 2013 04:39 PM

Hello all, I haven't been buying too awfully many books these days, but there are certainly some very interesting-looking ones out there, as always. How about you? Whispered any titles in Santa's ear? Going to treat yourself? Spill the beans...

  1. LulusMom Jan 3, 2014 02:50 AM

    Just started reading Mastering the Art of Soviet Cooking and am loving it. Funny and interesting read.

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    1. re: LulusMom
      Caitlin McGrath Jan 3, 2014 10:23 AM

      I read it last month, and thought it was great. I actually ended up buying a copy for a friend as a Christmas gift. (He is very well acquainted with Soviet history, but I know he'll enjoy the book.)

    2. buttertart Jan 1, 2014 07:10 AM

      Happy New Year!!! C'mon over to the new thread...
      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9297...

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        nadiam1000 Dec 31, 2013 06:54 AM

        So in spite of getting ready to move into our new house and living in the rental while it was built, I have managed to amass quite a few books in December. I have been on a bit of a buying spree!

        From TGC sale:
        Pastry by Richard Bertinet
        Beekman House Heirloom Desserts
        Tartine 3
        Model Bakery

        Brought home from Trip to Sydney, AU:

        Women's Weekly BAKE
        The Blue Ducks

        Half Price Books post Christmas 20% off sale:

        Earth to Table
        Mad Hungry Cravings
        Steamy Kitchen Healthy Asian Favorites
        Not So Humble Pies
        Liddabit Candy book
        Homemade Winter
        Williams Sonoma Good For You

        Amazon:
        The Art of the Dessert
        When Baker's Cook
        Sweet on Texas

        Post Christmas sale at WS:
        Momofuku Milk Bar

        Xmas Gift from Mom:
        Ad Hoc at Home

        On the plus side I did donate several cookbooks as I was packing up for the move and will likely cull more books as I am filling up my bookshelves in the new house. On the downside, when I list all the books in one place it does seem a tad excessive....
        Side note: While we were visiting my daughter in Sydney, somehow, I managed to miss a dedicated cookbook store 10 mins from where she lives in the north of Sydney. What???? I (jokingly)gave her a hard time about it but she was not aware of it at the time. She enables my addiction so I am certain of she knew about it, we would have gone there! bummer
        I think I need to look at a New Year's resolution to go on a (cookbook) diet. We will be in the new house and need to save my shopping dollars for other things(like new dishes....)

        Happy New Year to all!

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        1. re: nadiam1000
          LulusMom Dec 31, 2013 07:16 AM

          Happy New Year! Just heard from my Sydney friend who, unfortunately, is having to work today. Where is the cookbook store? I might need to let him know about it. He's in Kiribilli (sp?).

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            nadiam1000 Dec 31, 2013 07:36 AM

            Hello LulusMom - first of all your daughter Lulu sounds adorable and so bright! Love your postings about her.

            Here is the link: http://www.cookerybook.com.au/home

            Store is located in Northbridge(my daughter is in Cremorne Pt) Looks like they are closed for the first 2 weeks in Jan.

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              LulusMom Dec 31, 2013 08:15 AM

              Thank you so much! I am going to ruin my friends plans for a lighter bookshelf and send him this information.

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                Westy Jan 2, 2014 05:38 AM

                Ask him if he reads either Neil Perry (I have his "Food I Love" and am pondering his Asian cookbook), and Matt Moran's books. I'd buy 2 of Matt's books in a heartbeat if they are actually usable - but between paying full price (I usually get my books second hand) and shipping.....

                1. re: Westy
                  LulusMom Jan 2, 2014 11:19 AM

                  I've just sent him an email with your question - will let you know once I hear back.

                  1. re: Westy
                    LulusMom Jan 2, 2014 01:20 PM

                    Westy, here is the (very prompt!) reply I got from my friend in Oz:
                    "I don't have any of either Perry or Moran, although I sometimes clip some of Perry's recipes out of the paper, he is published in the Herald's Saturday food section, and the food looks ok.
                    I can't really comment on the useability of any of Moran's books since I've not seen any, nor, from memory, any reviews of them, certainly not recently anyway. Perry's would be of value, especially his more recent ones.
                    Ask your friend to consider Abebooks.com for second hand books."
                    hope this helps at least a little.

          2. LulusMom Dec 31, 2013 05:57 AM

            The Hakka cookbook just arrived. Weeeee!!!!

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            1. re: LulusMom
              Gio Dec 31, 2013 07:08 AM

              LLM, let us know how you like the Hakka book, please. I've had it for a while and have barely looked inside.

              1. re: Gio
                LulusMom Dec 31, 2013 07:15 AM

                Definitely will do. I may be able to sneak off for a few minutes to at least give it a look. Magically seem to have done as much pre-work as possible for dinner. Worrisome as it seems unlikely, but I feel like things are done. Finally trying the silken tofu with avocado from EGOR tonight along with a favorite from the original MS and a dessert from MS Express.

                I love how you always have a festive avatar!

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                  LulusMom Dec 31, 2013 08:19 AM

                  OK, Gio, I've just had about an hour to give the book a quick look. First impression: wow there is a lot of pork in this book. But there is also a lot that looks really good to me. My mouth was watering just reading some of the descriptions. A few things that really got me salivating (and of course everyone has different tastes):

                  cauliflower and beef in black bean sauce
                  garlic-chile eggplant sticks
                  stir-fried chinese lettuce, garlic and black beans
                  shrimp with fried garlic and chilies
                  braised fish in black bean sauce
                  sweet soy chow mein
                  garlic noodles and shrimp
                  soy glazed chicken morsels
                  soy-braised chicken and mushrooms
                  chile-spiced clams with basil and cilantro

                  I came away from that hour trying to figure out when the soonest time I can make something from it will be. A good sign.

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                    Gio Dec 31, 2013 09:53 AM

                    Thanks so much, LLM. From your list of 10 recipes I noted 7 I'd like to try. The book, should I ever remember to pull it off the shelf, will probably have more. Of course I could also make a potential/possible list from the listing at EYB.

                    1. re: Gio
                      LulusMom Dec 31, 2013 10:13 AM

                      More than welcome Gio. I actually marked 24 recipes, but those above were the ones that I'd go for first (I say that now, and then something will happen and I'll try something else). The one that surprised me the most is the sweet soy chow mein. Sounds especially easy, very flexible and the kecap manis would add an interesting note that I don't notice often. I also liked that this book has an interesting mix of stir-frys and braises/stews.

                      I should also mention that I got very little time to read anything except the headnotes and recipes, but what little I did read had me wishing I had more time. I feel like I'll be learning things (aside from kitcheny things) with this book.

                      1. re: LulusMom
                        buttertart Dec 31, 2013 04:52 PM

                        It's a serious book as well as an excellent cookbook.

              2. greedygirl Dec 31, 2013 01:18 AM

                I got Rick Stein's India for Christmas. I haven't tried anything yet but the photography is amazing!

                1. Caitlin McGrath Dec 30, 2013 01:08 AM

                  I just received Alice Medrich's new book Seriously Bitter Sweet as a gift. Looking forward to sitting down with it.

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                    buttertart Dec 30, 2013 05:13 PM

                    It has some very good recipes, but the commentary is a bit annoying.

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                      Caitlin McGrath Jan 3, 2014 01:31 AM

                      I haven't really had much time to peruse it yet. What's annoying about the commentary? And have you made anything from it (and if so, what)?

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                    Harters Dec 26, 2013 04:42 AM

                    Father Christmas brought me Maria Elia's "Smashing Plates".

                    Not a book that had been on my horizon but the old man with the white beard knows that I like the flavours of the eastern Mediterranean. The book's subtitle is "Greek flavours redefined", so I suppose that with Elia's profession as a chef, this is going to be what we can call "Modern Greek" food. Although as with most "Greeks" in the UK, the family background is Cypriot, rather than Greek.

                    Not a cookbook, but I was recently in a remaindered shop and picked up "Curry", by Shrababi Basu. Tells the story of the fast rise of south asian food in the UK - or, at least, the rise of the bastardised version of south asian food that we get in most places. Just flicking through, I see a chapter on the Pathak family, who market their sauces without the "h" of their name. I'm rather hoping it will also give an insight into why most "Indian" restaurants are owned by Bangladeshis and, indeed, Bangladeshis from that country's Sylhet region.

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                      Caroline1 Dec 26, 2013 05:48 AM

                      Fascinating double entendre in the title, "Smashing Plates!" Even though I'm long aware of the Greek celebratory tradition of smashing dinner plates onto the floor forcefully, that was not the first thing that popped to mind. My word associations were; Harters, Britishisms, "smashing" as in great and wonderful, "smashing plates" = wonderful food presentations. And as it turns out, both meanings fit! I do enjoy a good play on words!

                      If you think of it once you've read the book, it would be great if you share your thoughts! My own take on "all things Greek" is do NOT expect a consensus on anything! But it is very Greek to examine and question everything. The book sounds like Father Christmas made a pretty good choice!

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                        Harters Dec 26, 2013 06:05 AM

                        I agree, Caroline. Good play on words that may not translate to other English speaking countries if they don't use the slang word for "great".

                    2. Gio Dec 23, 2013 09:03 AM

                      Has anyone purchased The Chinese Takeout Cookbook: Quick and Easy Dishes to Prepare at Home by Diana Kuan? If so, how do you like it? What have you cooked? If you own other Chinese cookbooks, is TCTC worth adding to your collection? Many thanks in advance.

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                        The Dairy Queen Dec 23, 2013 04:53 PM

                        I'm so intrigued by this book.

                        Serious Eats did a "Cook the Book" for it http://www.seriouseats.com/tags/recipes/the%20chinese%20takeout%20cookbook

                        And Epicurious featured some recipes, too: http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/blogs/editor/2013/02/qa-chinese-takeout-cookbook-diana-kuan.html

                        Online recipes per EYB: http://www.eatyourbooks.com/library/r...

                        ~TDQ

                        1. re: The Dairy Queen
                          Gio Dec 23, 2013 06:01 PM

                          Thanks TDQ! Odd that no one has responded about the book. That's a telling sign I guess. I'll wait a bit now to see if there are any opinions.

                        2. re: Gio
                          Breadcrumbs Dec 23, 2013 06:25 PM

                          I've been tempted by this as well Gio. I fell off the "purge" wagon so I might just order it anyway!

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                            roxlet Dec 23, 2013 07:49 PM

                            Uh-oh! What did you buy?

                            1. re: roxlet
                              buttertart Dec 25, 2013 08:25 AM

                              Inquiring minds want to know!

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                                Breadcrumbs Dec 29, 2013 07:10 AM

                                Oh and I forgot to mention below.,..in my stocking I also found a copy of THE SWEET LIFE IN PARIS. Thanks bt for the tip on this up-thread, I know I'm going it enjoy it.

                                1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                  LulusMom Dec 29, 2013 08:37 AM

                                  I'll be giving in to The Sweet Life in Paris on my kindle, for sure.

                                  Glad to hear that you've had success with Giada recipes. Lulu was gifted with one by her Uncle (and hopefully soon to be aunt) who know she loves Giada. Yesterday Lulu went through the book and noted down the recipes she wants to make. Perhaps I should put that another way ... the recipes she wants ME to make. Never having used one of GdL's recipes, I was not sure how well this would go.

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                                    rstuart Dec 29, 2013 08:50 AM

                                    It's a very funny book.. and his stories of getting around less than helpful French "customer service" are consistent with what my friends who have lived in Paris tell me!

                                    1. re: LulusMom
                                      Breadcrumbs Dec 29, 2013 08:53 AM

                                      How lovely that Lulu shares your passion for cooking LlM and that she's now acquiring her own cookbooks! I think you'll both be pleased with Giada's recipes. In my experience they are quick to pull together, tend to use ingredients you have on hand as a matter of course and end up tasting delicious. Wishing you both many wonderful meals for Lulu's new book!

                                      btw, I've posted some reviews of these recipes in EYB (but not all as I have some pre-EYB notes to add there).

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                                        LulusMom Dec 29, 2013 11:00 AM

                                        Thanks BC. I will check EYB (I suddenly seem to have remembered it exists in the past month) for any recipes that she has marked. She wrote to Giada about a year and a half ago while we were vacationing in York and Giada wrote back. Lulu swooned when she opened the mail.

                                        I'm sorry but I have to share this with you. Lulu wrote it to me in an email in late Sept. Her biggest goal is to be a writer, but she definitely loves to cook (PS - no one in our house over the age of 7 calls them drinky poos):

                                        "I started cooking with my mom when I was 4 years old , so I love to cook. I was an olive lover, and I don't know about you but I craved for olives. I loved olives so much that when mom had her cocktail or drinky poo as we call it , she gave me feta cheese stuffed olives. Sure enough I loved it then too! I started to stare at my mother making the food exactly when I turned 4. I started to wonder about the love to make food . One day I asked if I could make food with her . Then she started to make food with me . I became a great cook. Then I turned 4 and a 1/2..."

                                        1. re: LulusMom
                                          Breadcrumbs Dec 29, 2013 11:13 AM

                                          Omg, that's so amazing LlM. Lulu is a great writer already! You've obviously been a tremendous role model and for her to be so focussed and introspective at such a young age is truly remarkable. What a lovely note. Thank-you so much for sharing it with us.

                                          If Giada does start up a magazine Lulu should write her again with a sample of her work...perhaps she could do a kid's column?

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                                            LulusMom Dec 29, 2013 11:19 AM

                                            You're very kind. I think it is hysterical (and adorable) myself. My favorite part: "I became a great cook. Then i turned 4 and a 1/2 ..." (ellipses her own). One trembles at the thought of what she'll do next given that statement.

                                            She's always saying she wants to write on Chowhound and I've had to explain to her that there are rules about age for that. But she'd be *thrilled* to write for Giada. If your assumption about her starting a mag is correct, I'd definitely suggest to L that writing to her was a good idea.

                                            PS - thanks everyone for putting up with the doting mother. Trust me, we have our "off" days.

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                                              Gio Dec 29, 2013 05:43 PM

                                              <"I became a great cook. Then I turned 4 and a 1/2...">"
                                              Absolutely ******* priceless ! Go Lulu.

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                                                rstuart Dec 29, 2013 07:22 PM

                                                Yes, that is also my favourite line. Oh, for the confidence of youth!

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                                                meatn3 Dec 29, 2013 06:06 PM

                                                So has she updated her autobiography between the august age of 4 1/2 and 7?

                                                :-)

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                                                  LulusMom Dec 30, 2013 02:58 AM

                                                  No, but I'm thinking of sending her to the Middle East. Someone needs to fix that situation.

                                            2. re: LulusMom
                                              greedygirl Dec 30, 2013 02:33 AM

                                              That is so funny, LLM. God knows where she got "drinky poos" from, but it made me laugh a lot. I now have a mental image of you and Mr LLM with your pre-dinner "drinky poos".

                                              1. re: greedygirl
                                                LulusMom Dec 30, 2013 02:59 AM

                                                Can you even imagine Mr. LLM (aka LLD) asking for a drinky poo??? I'd almost pay to see/hear it.

                                                1. re: LulusMom
                                                  greedygirl Dec 30, 2013 03:41 AM

                                                  I think you should offer him a drinky poo. Then stand well clear while he explodes!

                                    2. re: roxlet
                                      Breadcrumbs Dec 29, 2013 06:27 AM

                                      Ok ladies, you asked for it. Let the record show that up to now, I had a clean slate for December with no prior purchases. Then, a moment of weakness...

                                      If you’re going to fall off the wagon you might as well go big or go home…at least that’s what I figured when I took a break from the great cookbook cull.

                                      Here’s a list of my new acquisitions:

                                      GIFTS - These don’t really count anyway since I didn’t have to buy them…right?!! ; )

                                      PITT CUE Co. – Friend’s raved about this London BBQ/Smoke joint when I visited London recently and because I wasn’t able to get to the restaurant, they were kind enough to gift me w this cookbook for Christmas. I must say it’s been love at first sight. Clearly these guys are serious bbq fiends. It’s inspired me to purchase a smoker for mr bc (for Valentine’s Day perhaps). I can imagine this might be a great gift for mr roxlet as well…just throwing it out there!! ; )
                                      The slaws, salads, sauces, rubs and desserts also look incredible. There’s a lemon rhubarb tart in there that has my name all over it.

                                      THE GRAMERCY TAVERN COOKBOOK – A gift from mr bc. I had it on my Amazon wishlist but hadn’t been able to get to a store to take a look at it. If I had, I might have removed it from my list as my first impression of book wasn’t encouraging. There are lots of glossy photos with plates that are just a little too composed to inspire me to recreate them. In fairness, I didn’t spend a lot of time with the book and will most definitely take a closer look. The only standouts seemed to be the desserts so far.

                                      GIADA’S FEEL GOOD FOOD – I know many folks are put off by Giada’s tv presence but I quite like her. I have all her cookbooks and have prepared many of her recipes with great success. This book is a diversion from her Italian focus and as one might suspect, healthy recipes are at the forefront. There are many beautiful photos in the book and the recipes look enticing and delicious. I have no doubt this book will be the source of many meals as the new year rolls in. The only negative aspect of this book (IMHO) is that there as several pages devoted to health and beauty tips including cheesy photos. While I’m keen to try Giada’s recipes, I have zero interest in learning how she washes her face, applies make-up, packs for a trip etc. It made me wonder if a Giada Lifestyle Magazine might be in the works…I hope not.

                                      USED BOOKSTORE PURCHASES:

                                      KITCHEN CONFIDENTIAL – Anthony Bourdain. I loaned my (yet unread) soft cover copy to someone and it never got returned. This is the hardcover edition…complete with Amazon bookmark in tact I might add.

                                      REGIONAL ITALIAN COOKING – Valentina Harris. A tiny book with lots of beautiful illustrations. What the book lacks in size it makes up for in variety with a lovely selection of dishes from various regions of the country. I thought this would be the perfect Italian book to take on some of our self-catering vacations.

                                      AINSLEY HARRIOTT’S GOURMET EXPRESS 2 – I’m a fan of AH’s recipes and figured that for 50¢ this book was a no risk proposition. When I got home and opened the book to see the yummy-looking Pecorino Tart with Tarragon Crust I knew I’d made a good choice.

                                      DISCOUNT STORE BOOKS (HomeSense for those interested)

                                      BAKED, NEW FRONTIERS IN BAKING – Matt Lewis and Renato Poliafito – I purchased this book for a baker-friend a couple of years ago as it was on her Amazon wishlist. She loved the book so when I saw it at a reduced price, I tossed it into my cart. Truth be told I was starving at the time and would have killed for one of the luscious-looking Lemon-Almond Meringue Tarts on the cover!! Note to self: never shop for groceries OR COOKBOOKS when hungry!

                                      FOOD 52 COOKBOOK VOLUME 2 – I’ve had both volumes of these books on my wishlist for a while now so I was happy to see this book for a reasonable $9.99. Seriously, magazines cost almost as much these days! On first pass through the book, almost every recipe appealed, many in a big way.

                                      SOUVENIRS – Hubert Keller – Another book from my wishlist and I thought this was a super bargain at a mere $14.99. I think this will be a terrific book to cook from and to read.

                                      THE COUNTRY COOKING OF ITALY – Coleman Andrews – I recall being enticed by this book when it was featured on Serious Eats Cook the Books last year but the price of the book was too high to seal the deal. At $19.99 I felt differently and quickly scooped this up. As you all know, I’m a sucker for Italian books and this one has great variety with lots of delicious looking photos. The Ribollita, Polenta with Gorgonzola and Peas Umbrian Style recipes were all tabbed within the first 5 minutes of flipping through the book. On the negative side, I do wish the fish and seafood section were bigger.

                                      ORDERED BY ME (I can blame no one for these acquisitions but myself…and the ease of which one can purchase books online.):

                                      BILL’S EVERYDAY ASIAN – Bill Granger

                                      TOM VALENTI’S SOUPS, STEWS AND ONE-POT MEALS

                                      EAT – Nigel Slater (I had a chance to look at this in advance and it’s a must buy for NS fans)

                                      ONE GOOD DISH – David Tanis

                                      THE CHINESE TAKE-OUT COOKBOOK – Diana Kuan

                                      THE NEW MIDWESTERN TABLE – Amy Thielan

                                      CRADLE OF FLAVOUR – James Oseland

                                      THE ANIMAL FARM BUTTERMILK COOKBOOK: RECIPES AND REFLECTIONS FROM A SMALL VERMONT DAIRY – Diane St. Clair

                                      AVOCA TEA TIME – from the Avoca Café in Dublin

                                      BILL’s BASICS – Bill Granger

                                      A SARDINIAN COOKBOOK – Giovanni Pilu

                                      …and finally, a book purchased on my travels:

                                      IRENE’s PERANAKAN RECIPES by Irene Yeo

                                      1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                        roxlet Dec 29, 2013 06:37 AM

                                        You've been very bad, but apparently Santa didn't find out. He found out about me, and I got zero books for Christmas, which I'm actually OK with. I'm curious about The New Midwestern Table, and whether this is something you'd recommend.

                                        1. re: roxlet
                                          Breadcrumbs Dec 29, 2013 06:59 AM

                                          That book still hasn't arrived roxlet, I ordered it on Boxing Day so I expect it will be here tomorrow or Tuesday and I'll report back and share my impressions.

                                          That said, the book is indexed in EYB and a number of the recipes are available online IIRC. I'd looked at a few of them and they seemed like true "comfort food"...something that really appealed to me after so much business travel.

                                          Also, not sure if you've seen that there's a "Cooking From" thread here on CH:

                                          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/921430

                                          Though it doesn't seem there's been much (any?) cooking being done from the book as yet, TDQ has posted some really interesting and insightful comments about the author, the book and the recipes. I thoroughly enjoyed her posts. Thanks TDQ!

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                                            The Dairy Queen Dec 30, 2013 01:58 AM

                                            I've cooked two recipes from the book: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/921430#8470756 and mirage has mentioned she's cooked a couple http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9214... but, yeah, that's about it.

                                            ~TDQ

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                                          Harters Dec 29, 2013 08:04 AM

                                          We've had the Valentina Harris one since it was published in 1990. It's the book we turn to first if we're planning to cook Italian.

                                          And I reckon "Eat" is Slater's best book for ages - maybe as far back to his "fast food" days.

                                          1. re: Harters
                                            Breadcrumbs Dec 29, 2013 08:09 AM

                                            Your insights on both books are much appreciated Harters.

                                            It's nice to have my suspicions affirmed regarding the Harris book. It looked like a little gem.

                                            I got my first look at Eat when I was in London in October and I found it incredibly difficult to resist the temptation to purchase it (my luggage was already heavy enough!!!). I can't wait for it to arrive. I suspect it will become a fast favourite.

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                                            rstuart Dec 29, 2013 08:48 AM

                                            Baked is great BC.. Homesense does have some great deals, and I find a visit there can be very dangerous.. I'll keep an eye out for the Food52 cookbook the next time I go there! Hadn't heard of the new Giada cookbook, but I am always on the lookout for "healthy" cookbooks that aren't full of fake foods.. will take it out of the library!

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                                              Siegal Dec 29, 2013 11:28 AM

                                              Wow that's a lot of books! Jealous.

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                                                buttertart Dec 29, 2013 05:19 PM

                                                The Oseland book is fabulous and I am beyond jealous about the Peranakan book...want want!

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                                                  Breadcrumbs Dec 29, 2013 05:27 PM

                                                  It was love at first sight w the Peranakan book..I did a customized Peranakan tour and was able to sample some authentic dishes made by locals along the way bt. I also have photos of 2 others that were recommended to me on my phone. I haven't had a chance to download yet though but will report back when I do.

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                                                    buttertart Dec 30, 2013 05:12 PM

                                                    Man, that's great. Indonesia, eh?

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                                                      Breadcrumbs Dec 30, 2013 05:21 PM

                                                      Non, ce n'est pas bt, Singapore. Outstanding. Such a privilege to love my work and to travel to do it.

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                                                        rstuart Dec 30, 2013 05:34 PM

                                                        BC, you went to Singapore? I'm planning on going in April to visit some friends.. did you post a trip report?

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                                                          Breadcrumbs Dec 30, 2013 05:37 PM

                                                          I did. Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Hong Kong & Singapore. I didn't post any trip reports unfortunately rs. I adored SG and would move there in a heartbeat. If you have a chance to go, jump on it. The people there are so endearing. I loved it.

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                                                            greedygirl Dec 31, 2013 01:17 AM

                                                            I'm going to Singapore in March, probably, to visit friends who are there for a couple of years. They're actually really missing London I think. We'll go to Indonesia as well.

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                                                              LulusMom Dec 31, 2013 02:39 AM

                                                              Jealous! Lately this has become my "I really want to go there" spot.

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                                                                rstuart Dec 31, 2013 03:31 PM

                                                                I am actually also visiting friends who just moved from London as well.. haven't decided where else around there I will go, but Cambodia and Vietnam are high on the list.

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                                                                rstuart Dec 31, 2013 03:31 PM

                                                                By SG do you mean Singapore?

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                                                                  Breadcrumbs Dec 31, 2013 03:37 PM

                                                                  I do rstuart.

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                                                                    rstuart Dec 31, 2013 03:46 PM

                                                                    Oh good.. yes, definitely going there! I have heard very good things about the food..

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                                                              buttertart Dec 31, 2013 04:51 PM

                                                              I should say so.

                                                      2. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                        Njchicaa Dec 31, 2013 06:21 AM

                                                        Whoa cookbook buying binge!

                                                        I have been considering the New Midwestern Table. Let me know what you think of it.

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                                                          dkennedy Dec 31, 2013 06:30 AM

                                                          BC, you have indeed been very, very bad! I see Pitt Cue made it into your stocking. I have been eyeing this one. Would love to hear more once you try it out. Also eyeing Polpo.

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                                                            Breadcrumbs Jan 2, 2014 05:44 AM

                                                            I love Polpo. It's one of the books I pulled off my shelf to take a closer look at over the holidays.

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                                                            Westy Jan 2, 2014 05:35 AM

                                                            I saw Food 52 in the bookstore but did not buy it. Is it really a cookbook or is it just food porn?

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                                                              Breadcrumbs Jan 2, 2014 05:50 AM

                                                              I haven't taken a comprehensive look at it Westy but at first glance, the food photos appear to have been taken in their test kitchen as the recipes were prepared as opposed to being staged food photos. I've been very pleased with recipes from their website so I'm hoping these are of similar quality.

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                                                                JoanN Jan 2, 2014 06:37 AM

                                                                I just sort of assumed (there's that "ass" in "assumed" again) that all the recipes in the book would be on the Food 52 Web site. Do you know whether or not that's correct? This is tempting, but I really have no need for yet another large compendium book. I use so few of the ones I already have.

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                                                      Sirrith Dec 21, 2013 05:09 PM

                                                      Santa is getting me "Polpo" this year. Been wanting this book for a while now, you can tell it's something not quite ordinary just by looking at the book in person. Quite different from your usual cookbook, but the recipes look amazing, can't wait to unwrap it and try it!

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                                                        Westy Dec 22, 2013 11:59 AM

                                                        Great recipes and a lovely read. I was hesitant to make the purchase, but so glad I did.

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                                                        esjro Dec 21, 2013 03:12 PM

                                                        Just a heads up for those of you who are members of The Good Cook: in this month's mailing there is a coupon for $20.14 off your next purchase. It expires on 31 Jan 2014. Woo hoo!

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                                                          herby Dec 21, 2013 04:37 PM

                                                          I didn't see it - will look for it, thank you for pointing it out! I looked through their books today since they have their usual 4 for $40 sale on and can't find any books that I have to have... I am lusting after a few but they are not there :(

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                                                          rstuart Dec 21, 2013 01:51 PM

                                                          Just got a very generous gift from a friend... Ottolenghi's Plenty! I'm pretty sure there is a thread on this somewhere...

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                                                            Gio Dec 21, 2013 01:54 PM

                                                            Master thread w reporting thread links. You're going to Love Plenty!

                                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/781954

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                                                              rstuart Dec 21, 2013 06:40 PM

                                                              Thanks Gio!

                                                          2. herby Dec 20, 2013 05:55 PM

                                                            Just brought "Bills Food" by Bill Granger home from the library and was looking forward to browsing through and getting to know another cook book author new to me. Very happy until it accidentally opened to "mandarin and almond cake" as I put it down on the table... Why does everyone has to steal Claudia Roden recipe, call it something a bit different and claim the ownership instead of giving her the credit??!! Oh, this irks me so much... not a good first impression Mr. Bill :(

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                                                              Caitlin McGrath Dec 20, 2013 07:26 PM

                                                              At least Nigella Lawson does credit Roden, and I can't hold her responsible for all the people who attribute the recipe to her. BTW, one thing I've appreciated about Diana Henry is that she always explains where she came by the inspiration for a recipe, and gives specific credit when she's adapted another author's recipe.

                                                            2. LulusMom Dec 20, 2013 01:31 PM

                                                              Just when I was feeling a bit jaded and like I wouldn't need a new cookbook for a while I see the discussion here about Asian dumplings (if it was COTM, I'd buy it), and on the Diana Henry thread about her new book focusing on less red meat, more veg, etc.

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                                                                MelMM Dec 20, 2013 12:31 PM

                                                                I've tried to be good this year (hasn't worked out too well), but recently I went a little wild.

                                                                I picked up Maximum Flavor; Duck, Duck, Goose; In the Charcuterie; The Gramercy Tavern Cookbook; Manresa; Austin Breakfast Tacos (very nostalgic for me); The Artisan Jewish Deli; The Midwestern Table: One Souffle at a Time; and Hubert Keller's Souvenirs. All those on the iBooks format for my iPad.

                                                                In hard copy, I've been a little more restrained, but picked up Zarela Martinez's first book, Food from the Heart (I have had her Oaxaca and Veracruz books for a long time and both are excellent). Also Grace Young's Wisdom of the Chinese Kitchen, to complete my collection of her books.

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                                                                  herby Dec 20, 2013 01:05 PM

                                                                  Wow! Would love to hear more about Artisan Jewish Deli and One Suffle at a Time.

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                                                                    MelMM Dec 20, 2013 01:19 PM

                                                                    I have made the Backyard Barbecue Pastrami from Artisan Jewish Deli, along with their Russian dressing. The pastrami is mind-blowing good, but it does require a smoker. The dressing is not half bad either!

                                                                    I haven't even "cracked" (if you can do that with a digital book) One Souffle yet. So I'll have to get back to you that one later.

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                                                                      herby Dec 20, 2013 05:42 PM

                                                                      Would stove top smoker work? I still have Smtucker's recommendation in mind and a smoker in my Amazon cart :) Just need a push...

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                                                                        MelMM Dec 21, 2013 08:44 AM

                                                                        Perhaps. You need to be able to maintain a temp of 225 F for about 6 hours. I haven't used a stovetop smoker, so I don't know if it can do that. But, there is also an oven version in the book. You could probably use the stovetop smoker to infuse some smoke, and then put in the oven to finish. Even the outdoor-smoked version calls for finishing in the oven, wrapped in foil. Apparently pastrami is traditionally smoked first, then steamed, so that's where the foil-wrapped oven time comes in. I'm sure between the two recipes, you could adapt it. Also, might help if your stovetop smoker can hold a 4 lb brisket.

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                                                                          herby Dec 21, 2013 09:10 AM

                                                                          That means getting the book in addition to smoker... will see, maybe in January. Very tempting :)

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                                                                    Siegal Dec 20, 2013 03:54 PM

                                                                    How did you like the charcuterie book?

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                                                                      MelMM Dec 21, 2013 08:45 AM

                                                                      Haven't looked at it yet. I've been absorbed in Manresa and Maximum Flavor, but it's up next. I just got these yesterday!

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                                                                        Siegal Dec 21, 2013 08:54 AM

                                                                        :) let me know. It's like Christmas but for cookbooks in your neck of the woods I see.

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                                                                          MelMM Dec 21, 2013 11:19 AM

                                                                          I've had a look through now. I think this book depends upon what you want. If you are looking for a lot of sausage, prosciutto, salami, and mostly cured meats, this might not be your book. Not that it doesn't have those. It does. It devotes a lot of time to butchering from primal cuts or whole animals, boning out different animals, and so on. Then there are recipes from those cuts, but not cured. Then you start getting into the cured meats. Content overlaps a lot with the Ruhlman book, but covers the basics of butchery more in depth.

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                                                                            Siegal Dec 21, 2013 12:27 PM

                                                                            Thanks that's very helpful. I was deciding between the two which should be on my wishlist.
                                                                            Butchery is not something I am interested in.
                                                                            How do you like the Ruhlman book?

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                                                                              MelMM Dec 21, 2013 12:53 PM

                                                                              Solid book for cured meats. Doesn't have the detail about breaking down cuts of meat like this new one does, but it does have recipes for as many (I think actually more) cured meats plus fresh sausages, which work well. If making sausage, bacon, etc is what you are after, and not a lot of cutting skills, the Ruhlman book is probably for you.

                                                                  3. Gio Dec 19, 2013 08:22 AM

                                                                    A new acquisition for me is "Recipes from the Root Cellar"/Andrea Chessman. I'm going to love this book. Not only are there recipes for all the usual root vegetables but winter greens and squashes as well, along with various meats, seafood, vegetarian main dishes, grains/beans/pastas, and desserts. There are stir-fries, roasts, sautes. I haven't gone through the entire book yet but I've chosen quite a few to cook. Yes. I really going to love this cookbook. I only hope my expectations aren't dashed.

                                                                    Finally, No wonder I like Andrea Chessman's book... She Lives in Ripton Vermont. In an old farm house across the street from the rental cottage that Robert Frost took from time to time. In fact he used to have meals in Her House. I know the town well.

                                                                    http://andreachesman.com/

                                                                    http://www.eatyourbooks.com/library/16637/recipes-from-the-root-cellar

                                                                    As long as I have your undivided attention, from the Eater site comes this bit of news for the New Year:
                                                                    "...2014 has lots of good stuff in store, including books from Per-Anders Jorgensen (Fool magazine), Mario Batali, Ruth Reichl, Homaro Cantu, Jeremy Nolen, Dominique Ansel, Yotam Ottolenghi, Christian Puglisi, Danny Bowien, Harold Dieterle, Hugh Acheson, Donald Link, Gabrielle Hamilton, Sean Brock, Pat LaFrieda, Ferran Adrià, Cathal Armstrong, Dana Cowin, Notes From a Kitchen, Talia Baiocchi, and many more."

                                                                    http://eater.com/archives/2013/12/18/...

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                                                                      Caitlin McGrath Dec 19, 2013 10:20 AM

                                                                      More Ottolenghi! A followup to Plenty next year, then one based on his restaurant, NOPI. Time to shuffle my bookcase again...

                                                                      http://www.thebookseller.com/news/two...?

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                                                                        LulusMom Dec 19, 2013 10:22 AM

                                                                        Well, I'll definitely succumb to the NOPI book. Might as well just throw in the towel on that one right now.

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                                                                          Caitlin McGrath Dec 19, 2013 10:23 AM

                                                                          Have you eaten there, LLM?

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                                                                            LulusMom Dec 19, 2013 11:08 AM

                                                                            Yes, and it was wonderful. Lulu, greedygirl (hope she doesn't mind me mentioning it) and I and we just kept ordering more and more and pretty much all of it was very good.

                                                                    2. DiningDiva Dec 16, 2013 10:33 AM

                                                                      I recently purchased "Robicelli's: A Love Story with Cupcakes". Now, I am not the biggest fan of cupcakes and this was definitely an impulse buy, however that said, I really liked the book and I'd say I'd probably be willing to make almost any of the cupcake recipes. They all sounded (and looked) delicious. I've also done enough baking that I can read a recipe a get a pretty good feel for whether or not it's going to work or not and these all look pretty well constructed.

                                                                      Sure there are a lot of 4-letter words and the text is pretty in-your-face Brooklynese. But, really, that is part of the charm of the book. When is the last time you can say a cookbook made you laugh out loud :-)

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                                                                        flourgirl Dec 16, 2013 11:40 AM

                                                                        I just bought this book too, and I can't wait to try some of the recipes. The language doesn't bother me, I have to admit to having a bit of a potty mouth myself. (Hey, we all have our faults, and in a world filled with substance abusers, gambling addicts, downright criminals etc., I figure my sometimes salty language isn't really that big a deal. ;) )

                                                                      2. eperdu Dec 16, 2013 10:10 AM

                                                                        I acquired All About Braising, accidentally. It's something I've looked at and wanted to own but acquiring it this way was not my plan!

                                                                        I had checked out AAB from the library (again) and the dog decided to chew on it so he ate the corner off and ripped out some of the appendix. Oops.

                                                                        Sooo, after a very interesting discussion with the librarian I bought my now dog-chewed copy of AAB.

                                                                        I have plenty of books I want to buy right now but I have too many that I don't cook from now so I'm trying to behave.

                                                                        1. nomadchowwoman Dec 15, 2013 03:17 PM

                                                                          I've bought very few cookbooks this year, but recently picked up the Williams-Sonoma Soup of the Day, which has lots of nice-looking soups in it.

                                                                          Also bought a used copy of I Am Almost Always Hungry, on a rec from someone on CH, but have barely flipped through it.

                                                                          For me, this hasn't been a bad year for cutting back on cookbooks: I haven't seen that many things I'm crazy to have.

                                                                          1. Ruthie789 Dec 15, 2013 10:20 AM

                                                                            I bought Dinner Chez Moi by Laura Calder at Chapters for $9.00. I am going to take a stab at making, Chicken Pot Pie for Perfectionists, and New-Fashioned Berry Ice Cream or (Berry Fool).

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                                                                              herby Dec 15, 2013 11:55 AM

                                                                              Ruthie, do you have any of her other books? I love her TV show and made some recipes in the past from Food Network but do not have any of her books.

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                                                                                Ruthie789 Dec 15, 2013 12:53 PM

                                                                                Yes I do. I have French Taste Elegant Everyday Eating. I loved her show on the Food Network and her approach to cooking and entertaining. I especially like that she includes an easy dessert with most of her menus.

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                                                                                  pamf Dec 22, 2013 02:44 PM

                                                                                  I think French Taste aligns best with the kind of cooking that she does on the TV show. Her earlier book, which is titled French Food at Home, predates the TV show and is kind of quirky.

                                                                                  Chez Moi was a little disappointing to me. I do like her writing and was expecting more in the way of essays.

                                                                                  She has been working on a new book that will hopefully be available soon, called Paris Express.

                                                                            2. Breadcrumbs Dec 15, 2013 05:58 AM

                                                                              No books to add (I know right!!) but a link to a brief review of 3 cookbooks deemed to be the "Year's Best" by Lucy Waverman, a Canadian culinary professional/cookbook author and food writer. After a brief synopsis of each book, Lucy shares a recipe.

                                                                              Her top 3 books are:

                                                                              ONE GOOD DISH by David Tanis - Recipe is for Wok-Fried Lamb with Cumin

                                                                              EAT by Nigel Slater - Recipe for Marmalade Chicken

                                                                              A.O.C. by Suzanne Goin - Recipe for Long-Cooked Cavolo Nero

                                                                              I've subsequently added OGD to my Christmas Wish list. I'd held off since I haven't cooked a thing (that I can recall) from either of his prior two books that adorn my shelves but I trust Lucy and she's piqued my interest here with this delicious-sounding recipe.

                                                                              Here's the link:

                                                                              http://lucywaverman.com/index.php/com...

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                                                                                esjro Dec 15, 2013 09:19 AM

                                                                                "I'd held off since I haven't cooked a thing (that I can recall) from either of his prior two books that adorn my shelves...."

                                                                                I never consider that a valid reason to not buy another cookbook. ;-)

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                                                                                  LulusMom Dec 15, 2013 09:31 AM

                                                                                  I used to feel that way ... until my bookshelves started groaning and my husband started scolding. Be kind of interesting if it was the other way around, now that I think about it.

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                                                                                    buttertart Dec 15, 2013 09:35 AM

                                                                                    Those who live in glass houses...we have mutual tolerance of each book vice in this ménage.

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                                                                                      nomadchowwoman Dec 15, 2013 02:58 PM

                                                                                      Same here. In fact, since I've been in a cookbook-buying moratorium (well, almost), my husband keeps sending me links to cookbooks and lists. I think he feels guilty as he continues his book purchases (something arrives almost every day).

                                                                                      All things considered, book-buying would rank dead last in our list of vices.

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                                                                                        buttertart Dec 15, 2013 03:06 PM

                                                                                        The samc could be said of us.

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                                                                                          Gio Dec 15, 2013 03:48 PM

                                                                                          Ours too. When I don't order something to review at our local library G is asked by the librarian where I've been.

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                                                                                          Breadcrumbs Dec 15, 2013 04:33 PM

                                                                                          That's so funny ncw! mr bc has continued purchasing his albums while I've been holding off purchasing new cookbooks. When I returned from my latest trip, he'd saved me various newspaper articles about cookbooks of the year!

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                                                                                            rstuart Dec 16, 2013 07:23 PM

                                                                                            Did he clip the Globe and Mail one? Speaking of best of the year...
                                                                                            http://www.seriouseats.com/2013/12/gi...

                                                                                            I hadn't seen that Southern Living cookbook, and I always liked to check out small-batch canning cookbooks!

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                                                                                              buttertart Dec 21, 2013 04:27 PM

                                                                                              The Filipino book and Maximum Flavor...

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                                                                                                rstuart Dec 21, 2013 06:39 PM

                                                                                                More ideas for Santa?

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                                                                                                Breadcrumbs Dec 21, 2013 04:50 PM

                                                                                                He did rstuart!! Thanks for sharing the SE list, I hadn't seen it and may have to take a break from the great cookbook purge!

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                                                                                                  rstuart Dec 21, 2013 06:40 PM

                                                                                                  I wondered how the purge was going!

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                                                                                                nomadchowwoman Dec 22, 2013 02:35 PM

                                                                                                And, yes, with all the end-of-year lists coming my way, I'm about to call a moratorium on the moratorium.

                                                                                    2. Ruthie789 Dec 14, 2013 05:54 PM

                                                                                      I will be purchasing When Bakers Cook by Marcy Goldman.
                                                                                      http://www.amazon.com/When-Bakers-Coo...

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                                                                                        buttertart Dec 15, 2013 09:35 AM

                                                                                        Man, me too. Her Passion for Baking is great.

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                                                                                          Ruthie789 Dec 15, 2013 10:10 AM

                                                                                          I love her cookbook, A Treasury of Jewish Holiday Baking as well.

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                                                                                            buttertart Dec 15, 2013 03:05 PM

                                                                                            I must look for that too. Canadian, too :)

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                                                                                        LiamF Dec 12, 2013 04:17 PM

                                                                                        Najmieh Batmanglij's 'Food of Life: Ancient Persian and Modern Iranian Cooking and Ceremonies' just arrived; really amazing book.

                                                                                        I'm lusting after Phaia Sing's 'Traditional Recipes of Laos' and Felder's 'Patisserie', as well as 'Gran Cochina Latina' and the new elBulli books.

                                                                                        I'm also trying to make my mind up about 'Pok Pok' (any David Thompson owners have any thoughts here?),

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                                                                                          Siegal Dec 13, 2013 12:52 AM

                                                                                          I have food of life!!!
                                                                                          Mmmm..... Rice

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                                                                                            MelMM Dec 13, 2013 01:52 PM

                                                                                            I have Pok Pok, and haven't had a chance to cook from it yet. But I have read it all the way through, and I'd say, get it! It's one of those books where I just want to make every single dish.

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                                                                                              herby Dec 13, 2013 07:39 PM

                                                                                              Thank you, MelMM! I am returning Modern Thai, not ready for DT books and think that Pok Pok might be just up to my speed in Thai adventure :)

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                                                                                              LiamF Dec 29, 2013 03:59 PM

                                                                                              And picked up Phaia Sing's 'Traditional Recipes of Laos', as well as a copy of Maricel Presilla's 'Gran Cochina Latina'.

                                                                                              Gran Cochina was an impulse buy actually - saw it in a museum shop (they were running an Incan/Peruvian antiquities exhibition) and my member discount brought it to a really good price (for Australia, that is...)

                                                                                            3. Master Dec 11, 2013 11:47 AM

                                                                                              Last cookbook "Bread" by Hamelman, about 2 years ago, I want Bread Baker's Apprentice by Reinhart and The Italian Baker by Carol Field.

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                                                                                                lecker Dec 11, 2013 11:31 PM

                                                                                                master: I am reading (and learning so much!) from Reinhart's BBA right now. I highly recommend it. I love how he explains what is happening with fermentation and the science behind the essence of bread baking. Cool stuff! You will have to let me know how you like the Italien Baker; it sounds interesting as well.

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                                                                                                  buttertart Dec 12, 2013 04:17 PM

                                                                                                  I love his Crust and Crumb (actually more than BBA) and The Italian Baker is essential.

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                                                                                                    lecker Dec 12, 2013 09:53 PM

                                                                                                    I am a bloody beginner baker; this may be a naive question but what's the difference between crust and crumb? Is crumb a tiny separated crust?

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                                                                                                      sr44 Dec 12, 2013 10:25 PM

                                                                                                      Crumb isn't crust, i.e., it's the rest of the bread.

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                                                                                                        lecker Dec 14, 2013 01:49 PM

                                                                                                        Oh, that's surprising and not what i expected. I may have to get that one too.

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                                                                                                      MelMM Dec 13, 2013 01:50 PM

                                                                                                      I agree that Crust and Crumb is Reinhart's best book. A real gem.

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                                                                                                        buttertart Dec 14, 2013 07:34 AM

                                                                                                        FINALLY!!! Thank you.

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                                                                                                          roxlet Dec 15, 2013 06:50 AM

                                                                                                          I may have to look at CandC. I have BBA, and have never really caught fire with it.. Italian Baker is one of the best.

                                                                                                  2. emily Dec 11, 2013 07:52 AM

                                                                                                    Received "Man'oushe: Inside the Street Corner Lebanese Bakery".

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                                                                                                      Siegal Dec 11, 2013 09:22 AM

                                                                                                      I've been waiting for this book too come out! Please tell me all about it? A lot of pictures?

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                                                                                                        emily Dec 11, 2013 11:09 AM

                                                                                                        Lots of pictures! I've only flipped through it, but it looks fascinating and contains a lot of recipes.

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                                                                                                          Siegal Dec 11, 2013 04:02 PM

                                                                                                          Thanks! I'm looking forward to it. Let me know if you find out anything new

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                                                                                                        flourgirl Dec 11, 2013 05:26 PM

                                                                                                        My copy is on it's way, can't wait to see it!

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                                                                                                        wattacetti Dec 10, 2013 05:50 PM

                                                                                                        I just pre-ordered El Bulli 2005-2011.

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                                                                                                          lecker Dec 12, 2013 09:44 PM

                                                                                                          Wow! Please let me know how you like the book. One day...I want to hold it, touch it and read it....sigh.

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                                                                                                            MelMM Dec 13, 2013 01:49 PM

                                                                                                            Yes! I'd also like to hear how you like this, once you get it. Please report back!

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                                                                                                              Caroline1 Dec 15, 2013 12:05 PM

                                                                                                              BIG investment! Says a whooooooooole bunch about your level of cooking skills!

                                                                                                              I'm at the stage where I'm just beginning to get a firm handle on some of the techniques and skills AND equipment and ingredients required to make SOME of Feran Adria's recipes in a well equipped home kitchen. And somehow my "financial status" and the affordability of flying from Dallas to Spain, then managing a reservation and the bill at El Bulli have failed to arrive "side by side" in my lifetime, and... oh well, El Bulli is now a thing of the past anyway.

                                                                                                              BUT... If you or anyone else is interested in vicariously experiencing first hand a meal AT El Bulli, dining WITH Feran Adria, here is a link to one of Anthony Bourdain's early TV shows (note: He's a BABY in this video!) in which he does indeed travel clear to Spain for a meal at El Bulli, and he gets the pleasure of Feran Adria's company because Adria LOVES to see the look on the face of an accomplished chef who fully appreciates the joys and complexities of his very own creation: Molecular Gastronomy. You can buy the video, but why bother? You can see the important parts of it free here:
                                                                                                              http://www.moleculargastronomynetwork.com/46-en/formation/Anthony-Bourdain-Decoding-Ferran-Adria.html

                                                                                                              There are too many versions of Feran Adria's true Molecular Gastronomy creations available in restaurants today that are simply "poorly executed." It's a FUN video!

                                                                                                              Oh, and maybe in the far distant future, some of these magnificent books will be available cheap and for the price of dirt in used book stores, but we ain't there yet! Maybe around 2033???? '-

                                                                                                              )

                                                                                                              Enjoy!

                                                                                                              Here is a better version of the Bourdain show:
                                                                                                              http://vimeo.com/10348069

                                                                                                              You can also download and save it too.

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                                                                                                                Caroline1 Dec 15, 2013 04:15 PM

                                                                                                                For the record, here's an article about the making of the Bourdain video, "Decoding Ferran Adria" that contains a lot of fascinating information about Bourdain's trip there, how it came about, and how it was a key factor in Bourdain's TV career.

                                                                                                                http://eater.com/archives/2011/08/01/...

                                                                                                                Stuff I was clueless about! But yes! I already knew that Jose Andres is/was intricately linked to El Bulli, and to Ferran Adria. Andres is one of my most favorite chefs ever because I LOVE his sense of humor! And yeah.... He's a pretty damn remarkable chef too! '-)

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                                                                                                                  MelMM Dec 16, 2013 09:33 AM

                                                                                                                  There is an online course offered by Harvard through EdX, called Science and Cooking. The course number is SPU27X.

                                                                                                                  The course, which is FREE (!), features video segments by Ferran Adria, Jose Andres, Joan Roca, and others, where they demonstrate a dish, interspersed with video by the Harvard lecturers explaining the science behind the technique. It's really fun!

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                                                                                                                    Caroline1 Dec 29, 2013 07:48 PM

                                                                                                                    The course has ended but you can see most of the videos on youtube.com if you do a search for "Science and Cooking. For example, here is lecture 2 or the series:
                                                                                                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvbcOA...

                                                                                                          2. buttertart Dec 10, 2013 05:30 PM

                                                                                                            Uh oh...I want the Rayner and the Slater and and...
                                                                                                            http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013...

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                                                                                                              sr44 Dec 10, 2013 05:30 PM

                                                                                                              Another book case?

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                                                                                                                buttertart Dec 10, 2013 05:33 PM

                                                                                                                That too :)

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                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen Dec 11, 2013 04:38 AM

                                                                                                                  And, yep, I want the Rayner and the Slater and the Tanis. Not on this list, the AoSF II (Waters), Hakka, AOC (total joke, I haven't a hope of ever cooking from it, but I can want it!), Pok Pok... Hmmm, have I covered the bases.

                                                                                                                  And a new bookcase. And an addition to my house--the library.

                                                                                                                  ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                    flourgirl Dec 11, 2013 05:24 PM

                                                                                                                    I SO need that library addition.... I've been eyeballing the garage for several years now....

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                                                                                                                  greedygirl Dec 11, 2013 02:07 AM

                                                                                                                  The ones that caught my eye were the Bruno Loubet book and the Green Kitchen one. The latter has a blog which is pretty good. Next time I have a vegetarian for dinner, I'm making the beet bourguignon.

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                                                                                                                    greedygirl Dec 11, 2013 02:08 AM

                                                                                                                    On my Christmas list:

                                                                                                                    The AOC Cookbook
                                                                                                                    Rick Stein's India

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                                                                                                                      LulusMom Dec 11, 2013 03:40 AM

                                                                                                                      Evil temptress! I now want the Rayner too. And I think TDQ might want to look at the new Donna Hay. Wondering what Restaurant Babylon is like ...

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                                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen Dec 11, 2013 04:26 AM

                                                                                                                        Yep. "No time to cook." Gotta have it. I might have missed that, thank you!

                                                                                                                        Restaurant Babylon sounds like excellent pool-side reading. Anyone have a pool to lend? It's minus 6F here at the moment.

                                                                                                                        ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                          LulusMom Dec 11, 2013 05:52 AM

                                                                                                                          I thought it sounded like good pool side reading too. I've asked for a trip for Christmas - my trip to Key West last year (actually earlier this year) was ruined by pneumonia. Maybe ... just maybe?

                                                                                                                          Glad I was able to help on the DH book! Can't wait to hear how it is. Isn't it interesting how when chefs have kids they are suddenly interested in these kinds of books? I feel like someone just mentioned another chef having had kids and putting out a book that was made up of easier dinners.

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                                                                                                                            The Dairy Queen Dec 11, 2013 06:17 AM

                                                                                                                            Awesome. If you think of that book, let me know. It's always nice to see different ideas from people who love food and who know their way around a kitchen...

                                                                                                                            ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                              dkennedy Dec 11, 2013 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                              That was me - AOC - and I said easier, but not easy!

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                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen Dec 14, 2013 10:34 AM

                                                                                                                              Strange. My copy of "No Time to COok" just arrive. The copyright inside the "new" Hay book is 2008. ANd it looks just like the photo in the Guardian story. Is this a re-release of the book?

                                                                                                                              Some appealing idea, nevertheless.

                                                                                                                              Chapters are as follows:
                                                                                                                              Assembled Dinners (no cook; mix ingredients together, super fast)
                                                                                                                              Fast Flavors (simple grills)
                                                                                                                              One Pan
                                                                                                                              One Pot
                                                                                                                              One Dish
                                                                                                                              Some Now and Later (freezer friendly)
                                                                                                                              Instant Desserts

                                                                                                                              ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                LulusMom Dec 14, 2013 11:15 AM

                                                                                                                                That is SO weird. Sorry if I mislead you TDQ. I was just reading the list and assumed they were all new books.

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                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen Dec 15, 2013 01:54 PM

                                                                                                                                  No worries! If it hadn't been on the list, I might never have discovered it! Better late than never. I was just a little confused...

                                                                                                                                  ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                  Caitlin McGrath Dec 14, 2013 11:22 AM

                                                                                                                                  I see that NTTC is listed on (US) Amazon as a paperback released July 2013, and I see the first review on the page, from 2009, says, "My favorite so far, they need to release it in the US." So perhaps it's newly released outside of Australia?

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                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen Dec 15, 2013 01:53 PM

                                                                                                                                    That's what I was thinking, too!

                                                                                                                                    ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen Dec 11, 2013 04:39 AM

                                                                                                                                Clickity click! The Hay is on its way. Who needs to wait until Christmas?

                                                                                                                                ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                JoanN Dec 17, 2013 07:40 AM

                                                                                                                                "A Greedy Man in a Hungry World" arrived yesterday. Not sure how I managed to snag an almost newly published, in pristine condition, book from an Amazon reseller for $1.71 plus shipping, but not complaining. Had never heard of him before, so thanks for the mention. Read the first chapter last night. Funny guy, when he wants to be. In serious mode, he seems to be the anti-Pollan. Not what I expected, but enjoying it nonetheless.

                                                                                                                              4. buttertart Dec 10, 2013 05:06 PM

                                                                                                                                I got the Tadashi Ono book, "Japanese Soul Cooking", recommended on the Times list (for Kindle)...I loved the food in Tokyo. Also got the new Lawrence Osborne book, also Kindle, "The Wet and the Dry: A Drinker's Journey", recommended on the NYT travel list (I enjoyed his previous book -- and i do like a wee dram now and again).

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                                                                                                                                  LulusMom Dec 11, 2013 03:37 AM

                                                                                                                                  I've been eying "The Wet and the Dry." The reviews I read were good and it sounds interesting and well written. The idea of a big drinker being in places where drinking is frowned on could be pretty amusing.

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                                                                                                                                    qianning Dec 11, 2013 08:20 AM

                                                                                                                                    read your post and went immediately to the NH state library site....yahoo there's a copy of Japanese Soul Cooking in the state system!

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                                                                                                                                      flourgirl Dec 11, 2013 05:22 PM

                                                                                                                                      My copy of Japanese soul cooking arrived a couple of weeks ago. It looks great but I literally have stacks of books I haven't gotten to, so I'm hoping to tackle that one after Christmas.

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                                                                                                                                      lecker Dec 11, 2013 11:26 PM

                                                                                                                                      Buttertart: Does Ono's book include recipes for making fresh Japanese noodles? And how do you like cookbooks on the kindle? I have refrained from getting cookbooks on the kindle because...I am concerned that the pictures or images won't be easy to read. What has been your experience?

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                                                                                                                                        buttertart Dec 12, 2013 04:23 PM

                                                                                                                                        It seems not -- I just had a look through the noodle recipes on my iPad. Brands and types are recommended.
                                                                                                                                        You might want to have a look at Linda Burum's Asian Pasta. It came out in 1985 and is available used for almost nothing. There's a Burmese curried chicken noodle dish (Kaukswe Hin) in it that I've made over and over again.
                                                                                                                                        I quite like the Kindle books, but they are more impressive on iPad than on the Kindle, by dint of size. Throw that iPad in a ziplock bag and you can cook from it, the touchscreen works through it.

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                                                                                                                                          lecker Dec 12, 2013 09:39 PM

                                                                                                                                          Thanks for that rec - I will keep my eye out for the Asian Pasta. I have been looking for a good recipe to make chewy noodle dough like the ones where the chef just cuts into a block of pasta with a sharp knife and flings it into boiling water. Then it is married with a beautiful broth, some meats and fresh veggies and voila, I am in another noodle heaven. Clever idea on putting a a ziplog around the ipad. I might just download a cookbook onto my ipad tonight (instant gratification) and try it out. Thanks!

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                                                                                                                                            buttertart Dec 14, 2013 07:33 AM

                                                                                                                                            There's also Florence Lin's book on Chinese breads and noodles -- I've had it forever and it's dreadfully expensive now because out of print. Check your library, perhaps?

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                                                                                                                                              lecker Dec 14, 2013 01:40 PM

                                                                                                                                              Thanks Buttertart! I have added that book to my list of recommended books. I doubt my local library has it; it has very few English-language books. But I will check it out next time I am there. It sounds like you have your own library of great cookbooks.

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                                                                                                                                                buttertart Dec 15, 2013 03:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                I've been collecting since I was 16 or so.

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                                                                                                                                        MelMM Dec 13, 2013 01:48 PM

                                                                                                                                        I suspect I will succumb to "Japanese Soul Cooking". I've liked the other books by the same authors.

                                                                                                                                      3. lecker Dec 10, 2013 01:42 PM

                                                                                                                                        I am lusting after Flour, Water, Salt, Yeast and Les Petits Macarons. Sadly my local bookstore (in Germany) doesn't have them, but after reading sf44 and monbakes_downunder 's English book site links (Thank you!), I may be able to get these books in English sooner than later.

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                                                                                                                                          honkman Dec 10, 2013 03:09 PM

                                                                                                                                          You might want to check http://www.bookdepository.com/ as they have worldwide free shipping

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                                                                                                                                            buttertart Dec 10, 2013 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                            I believe that was recommended.

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                                                                                                                                            sr44 Dec 10, 2013 05:27 PM

                                                                                                                                            Please let me know your experience with bookdepository.com. I have a niece in Berlin and I'm hoping what I ordered arrives promptly and (more important) doesn't cost her extra to receive it.

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                                                                                                                                              lecker Dec 11, 2013 11:24 PM

                                                                                                                                              Sr44: Because I am not sure about the VAT and customs for deliveries into Germany, I am not ordering from bookdepository just yet. Did you already place an order for your niece? If so, can you let me know if she has to pay add'l VAT and customs when she receives her book? Yesterday I found another website Bol.de that also has English-language books. I am thinking about using this site to order the two cookbooks that I want. Because it is .de, there shouldn't be any customs complications. If I do order from them, i will let you know.

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                                                                                                                                                sr44 Dec 16, 2013 07:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                Deal. I got what I ordered for myself, so she could have received hers.

                                                                                                                                                I just checked the Bol.de site, and one of the books I sent her was there.

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                                                                                                                                                  sr44 Dec 17, 2013 12:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                  My niece just let me know that both the Amazon and Book Depository orders arrived at her house without anything due. Could a bill come later?

                                                                                                                                                  By the way, I just discovered that the Book Depository has been gobbled up by Amazon.

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                                                                                                                                                    ellabee Dec 17, 2013 02:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                    Nooooooooooo!!!

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                                                                                                                                                      lecker Dec 18, 2013 12:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Thanks for letting me know. If she received the books at her house, there shouldn't be any additional Customs or Vat due. That is good to know.

                                                                                                                                                      I didn't realize amazon bought up Book depository. So much for competition...but I have to admit that Amazon does offer competitive prices and their return policy is usually hassle free.

                                                                                                                                              2. Gio Dec 10, 2013 01:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                Secret Ingredients: The New Yorker Book of Food and Drink/Remnick, David
                                                                                                                                                An anthology of short stories and essays by great food writers, w a few recipes tossed in for good measure. It's in the EYB database but not indexed.

                                                                                                                                                Classic Thai Cuisine Classic Thai Cuisine/David Thompson.
                                                                                                                                                Yes, I succommed.

                                                                                                                                                Roast Figs Sugar Snow: Winter Food to Warm the Soul/Diana Henry

                                                                                                                                                All About Roasting: A New Approach to a Classic Art/Molly Stevens
                                                                                                                                                The current COTM. Didn't vote for it but loving it nonetheless.

                                                                                                                                                Awaiting arrival: The Wisdom of the Chinese Kitchen/Grace Young

                                                                                                                                                Pre-ordered: My Paris Kitchen:Recipes and Stories /David Lebovitz

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                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen Dec 10, 2013 03:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Envious of the Diana Henry, Why the Grace Young all of a sudden? I have that book, by the way, but have never cooked from it. Would love to.

                                                                                                                                                  ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                    Gio Dec 10, 2013 05:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                    The Grace Young completes the set for me till she writes another book. Also there are a few recipes I've read about that I'd like to try. Something about chicken & chestnuts, and a couple of others.

                                                                                                                                                    It's too early to tell about the Henry book. I've picked out a couple but at the moment I'm not as thrilled with the selection of recipes as I thought I would be.

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                                                                                                                                                      JoanN Dec 10, 2013 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                      That chicken and chestnuts dish caught my attention as well. I still have so many books I bought this year that I haven't cooked from yet. Wonder how long I can hold off on completing my Grace Young set. Probably just until you post your review of that dish.

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                                                                                                                                                        greedygirl Dec 11, 2013 02:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                        I've made a couple of things from the Diana Henry - the pork stuffed with black pudding (good, especially the sauce) and the chocolate cake with nuts in it (very rich, raved about last Christmas).

                                                                                                                                                        I'm really looking forward to her new book, out in the Spring.

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                                                                                                                                                          MelMM Dec 13, 2013 01:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                          I also got that Grace Young book recently. My second try. The first one I ordered came with a broken binding and I had to return it. The new one, which is perfect, came the other day. I'm looking forward to trying the recipe for Chinese bacon.

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                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom Dec 10, 2013 04:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                        I can't wait to start seeing posts on the D. Henry thread about recipes you've tried from this new book. Actually shivering in anticipation at the thought, which is kind of weird.

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                                                                                                                                                          buttertart Dec 10, 2013 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Did you read his "A Sweet Life in Paris"? Fun. Must get the other.

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                                                                                                                                                            nomadchowwoman Dec 15, 2013 02:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                            Not Gio here, but I did think that was a good read, bt.

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                                                                                                                                                              Gio Dec 15, 2013 03:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Lebovitz? No, this will be the first Lebovitz cookbook I buy.

                                                                                                                                                              Update on the Grace Young "The Wisdom of the Chinese Kitchen": Love it so far. I've just scanned it quickly then went directly to the recipes. Or rather the chapter "the Art of Celebration" because of the imminent New Year's Eve compulsory Chinese food meal. Chose 2 recipes : salt & pepper shrimp and sweet & sour pork. Plebeian at best but two dishes G likes and we don't have to order in. But that's beside the point. There's important background and history in this book. I have to take my time with this.

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                                                                                                                                                                Caitlin McGrath Dec 15, 2013 06:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                The Sweet Life in Paris is actually Lebovitz's memoir about packing up and moving to Paris (from the US) to make a life there, and it's one of the better Americans-making-sense-of-France books I've read (perhaps it's his interest in food and cooking!).

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                                                                                                                                                                  LulusMom Dec 16, 2013 02:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  I'm a sucker for those kinds of books. Just put it on my amazon wish list. Thanks.

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                                                                                                                                                                    rstuart Dec 16, 2013 07:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    I really enjoyed that book.. especially reading about the bureaucracy of France. A friend of mine who had lived there for a year or so confirmed that it was all true (including the bank telling you that they didn't have the correct change!)

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                                                                                                                                                                      Gio Dec 17, 2013 04:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks Caitlin. I read his blog and he talks about various aspects of living in Paris and other tales so I'll probably like this book. His blog is a very good read.

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                                                                                                                                                                  qianning Dec 11, 2013 07:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  Will be curious to hear what you think of the Thai book.

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                                                                                                                                                                    ellabee Dec 11, 2013 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Is David Thompson's Classic Thai Cuisine a completely different book from his Thai Food?

                                                                                                                                                                    I'm thinking this might be the year Thai books make it to a Cookbook of the Month, with the popularity of Pok Pok added to the wide ownership of Thompson's. I've gotten much less intimidated after a month of close reading (re-indexing & adding Thai recipe titles for EYB; *almost* done).

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                                                                                                                                                                      Gio Dec 11, 2013 01:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Classic was published in 1993...
                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Thai-Cuisine-David-Thompson/dp/0898155630

                                                                                                                                                                      Thai Food - 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.amazon.com/Thai-Food-David...

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                                                                                                                                                                        qianning Dec 11, 2013 03:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Classic Thai Cuisine, as Gio notes, was published much earlier than Thai Food. It is a much more pared down, but not dumbed down, book. There is some recipe overlap between the books, but not total. Also, in some cases for the same or a similar recipe the proportions of ingredients and spices are different between the books. The books are organized differently--Classics is strictly organized by course--soup, salad, curry, grilled foods, and etc. Thai food, has a much more complex (some might say crazy) organization. And finally, proportionally Classics has many fewer curry recipes, and a more equal emphasis on other types of courses.

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                                                                                                                                                                          ellabee Dec 11, 2013 04:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks, Gio and qianning.

                                                                                                                                                                          The organization in Thai Food is a little more complex than in many cookbooks, but it does manage to convey the eating patterns across Thai society -- from the palace to home cooking to market stalls and street food, and the fundamental ingredients and preps that are the building blocks.

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                                                                                                                                                                        dkennedy Dec 16, 2013 08:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Thank you for putting David Lebovitz' new book under my radar. I can't wait!

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                                                                                                                                                                        Siegal Dec 10, 2013 06:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        I just received the illustrated encyclopedia of british food.

                                                                                                                                                                        Very meaty a and brown. Not bad just very different than the middle eastern cookbooks I usually buy. It's nice to have something different. Just need to cook from it now.

                                                                                                                                                                        My husband is a meat and potato man so he likes it

                                                                                                                                                                        1. buttertart Dec 9, 2013 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          It's the 9th and there are 118 posts already...crikey!

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                                                                                                                                                                            meatn3 Dec 9, 2013 05:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Tis the season! Probably hit 300 after Christmas!

                                                                                                                                                                          2. roxlet Dec 9, 2013 05:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            What's wrong with me? Have I reached the saturation point? I cannot think of a single cookbook to put on my Christmas wish list!

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                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart Dec 9, 2013 04:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              Not even anything on the NYT list or auxiliary list?
                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/boo...

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                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Dec 9, 2013 04:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                You're very naughty, but no. I think I have everything I'm interested in owning!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  herby Dec 9, 2013 04:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I also noticed that my interest in cookbooks is at a all time low - there is nothing out there that I have to have. Maybe my attitude changed or I simply have loads of wonderful books that I am not finding enough time to cook from. Just checked NYT list and the only book that I am mildly interested in is MY FEAST: Recipes From the Islands of the South Pacific, Sri Lanka, Indonesia and the Philippines by Peter Kuruvita. Would like to have a look at it but won't order sight unseen.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Dec 9, 2013 05:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I, too, have many books I haven't cooked from. I am particularly not interested in some Asian cuisines since I have such a terrible time getting unusual ingredients. The book you cite is one such for me...

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                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Dec 9, 2013 05:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Surprised to hear that you have trouble with ingredients, aren't close to NYC? I love Asian food and searching up ingredients, going to little hole-in-the-wall places, speaking with people that hardly speak English, and finally finding what I am looking for is very enjoyable for me :) But I do have books about these cuisines that I hardly cracked open - Cradle of Flavour, Vietnamese Street Food, Japanese Farm Food, etc. And I just bought Modern Thai Food :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Dec 10, 2013 05:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I live north of NYC, and going into town just for an ingredient isn't really an option, particularly since everything I need is usually in Chinatown, which is the furthest point from home, a PITA by train, and impossible and expensive to park. Westchester is large, and driving all over the county to look for an ingredient means that you really have to plan ahead. I did that for a while and did find things like curry leaves and galangal for a big dinner, but it is definitely not a spur of the minute thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          herby Dec 10, 2013 07:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I can see how getting to Chinatown would be a problem. My chicldren live on the Upper West Side and even from there it is not that easy to get to. I thought Indian groceries were everywhere but apparently not. Sometimes there are hidden treasures; if you have an Indian neighbour, she might be able to steer you in the right direction. I didn't know that one can buy all kinds of Indian veggies until an Indian person told me about a couple of little stores that carry an amazing selection of things. I found other great little groceries too - Iranian, Japanese, etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet Dec 10, 2013 04:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            There is an Indian market about 20 or so minutes from here, but it's in what I call one of those black holes -- you found it once, but you don't know how, and I'm not sure I can ever find it again! It was a funny little market where they weren't terribly friendly, but it was the only place I could find curry leaves.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart Dec 10, 2013 05:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              I thought there was a big HMart up by you?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet Dec 10, 2013 05:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                There is, but they don't have East Asian ingredients. They are also Korean, so sometimes the Chinese ingredients can be lacking. Or maybe they're not, and I don't know what I'm looking at. There is a distinct lack of English speaking personnel.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  qianning Dec 11, 2013 07:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Have to agree the H-Mart (at least the one here near Boston) isn't great for condiments other than Korean and to a lesser extent Japanese cooking. The produce section, on the other hand is quite good for most Asian, including SEA and Indian, cooking. Although now that I think about it, not sure if I've seen curry leaf there, although I think so. Definitely have seen Thai Basil, Viet Namese mint & coriander.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Dec 11, 2013 06:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I've come to the sobering realization that as much (painful) culling of cookbooks as I've done these past two years, I still really don't have room for all of the ones I have, let alone room to grow. I think I'm going to need to do another major cull and continue to be strict about my purchasing habits.

                                                                                                                                                                                      ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Berheenia Dec 17, 2013 07:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm with you about owning but am still waiting for the library to deliver my hold for 'The Cook's illustrated baking book : baking demystified' so I can attempt to make (or read about) that Boston Cream Pie.. or is it cake?. Anyway I see it is "in transit" which can mean a few days out here especially with the ongoing snow storm.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      roxlet Dec 17, 2013 05:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      It is so good. I'm thinking about adding it to my New Year's Day dessert buffet, but I'm afraid it will get mangled...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        dkennedy Dec 17, 2013 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        When you have time, can you post the recipe? Pie or cake, it sounds amazing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          herby Dec 17, 2013 06:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Is it this one? http://www.justapinch.com/recipes/wic...

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                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart Dec 21, 2013 04:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Make it for the buffet!

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Gio Dec 7, 2013 01:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      NYTimes cookbook list: 6 Dec. 2013 to be published on Sunday:
                                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/boo...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Caitlin McGrath Dec 7, 2013 02:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Here's the first part: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/08/boo...

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                                                                                                                                                                                          janeh Dec 7, 2013 04:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          None of the cookbooks on the NYTimes list were especially enticing (already have Ottolenhgi x3), but Santa's already heard that I'd like to have a copy of "Lonely Planet - A Fork In The Road " James Oseland from the NYTimes list of travel books.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Per amazon.com…"Tales of food, pleasure & discovery on the road. Join us at the table for this 34-course banquet of original stories from food-obsessed writers and chefs sharing their life-changing food experiences."

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                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart Dec 8, 2013 04:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh yeah!!! The Lonely Planet food books are excellent.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          LulusMom Dec 7, 2013 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Just in time to let Santa know!

                                                                                                                                                                                        3. meatn3 Dec 7, 2013 12:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          A certain someone of dairy royalty had shared an Amazon promotion and I took a peek...

                                                                                                                                                                                          *Eat Your Vegetables - Bold Recipes for the Single Cook by Joe Yonan

                                                                                                                                                                                          As a solo cook my usual vegetables are less varied than I would like, largely due to dealing with the size of many items. This book has some interesting pairings, a section dealing with what to do with half a "______" , most recipes are pretty quick and many suggestions for varying a recipe. Layout is thoughtful, easy to read font and a nice amount of beautiful photo's to get your excitement going! I'm looking forward to spending more time perusing it. Looks like a great inspiration for week night cooking!

                                                                                                                                                                                          *Manresa by David Kinch

                                                                                                                                                                                          This is a gorgeous coffee table sized book but full of doable recipes. Only quibble so far is that the font size for ingredients is a bit small. This is not a book for figuring out what's for dinner tonight. It is a book full of inspiration and ideas which you want to spend a planned day in the kitchen
                                                                                                                                                                                          with.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            herby Dec 7, 2013 06:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Meatn3, please share your experience with "Eat Your Vegetables". I have his "Serve Yourself" and though it looks good somehow it has not inspired me to cook from it.

                                                                                                                                                                                            I am also a solo cook/eater most of the time and have a few books on the subject. My favourite is "The Pleasure of Cooking for One" by Judith Jones. "The Pleasure is All Mine" is entertaining and "Solo Suppers" has a few tasty and unusual recipes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              meatn3 Dec 7, 2013 07:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              I adore the Judith Jones book - you feel like you are chatting with a much loved friend! Although I have yet to cook from it I have been inspired.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I will report! I'm still having physical issues which make standing a bit of a challenge so it may be a few weeks. I thought I was up for a grocery run yesterday but even with the electric wheelchairs I'm paying for it today. Also a goodly portion of the book is salads. I tend to prefer hot food during cool weather.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                herby Dec 7, 2013 07:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I am in absolutely no rush - shelves of cookbooks everyone wants to be picked up and cooked from + a wish list :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                Please take good care of yourself! Is there anyone to help you with groceries and other mundane stuff? I also prefer warm food when the weather is cold but occasionally crave main meal salad.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Maybe we should start "what's for solo dinner?" thread? I think there are a few of us that cook and eat solo many meals.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  meatn3 Dec 8, 2013 09:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  A solo dinner thread would interest me! It may move slowly if others cook once eat thrice like I do!

                                                                                                                                                                                                  On the personal aside I have some terrific neighbors to help with trash cans and such. A good friend was over recently and helped with bigger jobs like changing sheets and lugging bags of kitty litter upstairs. I'm improving but it is slower than I would like.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    rstuart Dec 8, 2013 02:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, I live alone and I do the same meatn3; cook something that freezes well, and eat it several meals in a row. I bet that it would be a popular thread..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Dec 8, 2013 06:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I do not like leftovers but, like you, I live alone and it is not possible to make every meal from scratch! So I cook, portion, freeze, and little containers accumulate! I've been trying to eat from my freezer for a couple of months now and there is no end to it or so it seems... Not everything freezes well, some container loose their labels, and some things are so hidden that even if I know that they are there it is not always possible to find them. The best thing I ever did is inventory my freezer and keep the spreadsheet updated, printed and posted on the fridge.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      OK, I'll start the thread. Give me a day or two to think it over and please make suggestions.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        rstuart Dec 8, 2013 07:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        That spreadsheet is a great idea Herby..

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                                                                                                                                                                                              eperdu Dec 16, 2013 10:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Whenever I see Manresa I have to giggle .. we went there and one course was radishes pulled from Kinch's garden, cleaned off but nothing trimmed off and heavily salted. That was the course. We joke about it now. It tasted great but really not my idea of an entire course when doing a tasting menu. ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                JoanN Dec 16, 2013 10:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                A good friend, a cookbook editor and the daughter of cookbook writers who had grown up in France, always served salted radishes with butter as an hors d’oeuvres. I assumed it was a very French thing to do.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  eperdu Dec 16, 2013 10:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh it was lovely and would be a great hors d'oeuvre, but this was smack dab in the middle of a meal. It wasn't a palate cleanser either. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                              bropaul Dec 6, 2013 05:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              On my Christmas list I have :

                                                                                                                                                                                              Pasta: Sauces & Shapes by Oretta Zanini de Vita and

                                                                                                                                                                                              Around my French Table by Dorie Greenspan.

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. herby Dec 6, 2013 06:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Ysterday Lucky Peach, The Gender Issue came and I do not know what to think. Anyone here reads this magazine? I was curious and ordered an issue without giving much thought to the subject of it. I thought it is about food and it is but Fuchsia Dunlop cooking penis? Really? I haven't read the whole magazine, mainly flipped through and what I read was well written and weird, some of it.... Love to hear what you think.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  JoanN Dec 6, 2013 07:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I've subscribed to Lucky Peach from the beginning and although I don't always read it cover to cover, The Gender Issue was the one issue I barely read at all. The magazine can be/tries hard to be very edgy, and sometimes goes too far. At least, for me. But I nearly always find something fascinating, I often learn something new and helpful, and on the whole I've enjoyed it a great deal. Certainly enough to renew my subscription again, as I just did a couple of days ago.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    herby Dec 6, 2013 07:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thank you, Joan! Isn't it amazing that I picked that aprticular issue of all available issues. Maybe I'll subscribe for a year and see what I think at the end. Wonder if I could receive it in Canada at a reasonable cost.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Dec 6, 2013 08:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Poor Herby. What an unfortunate luck of the draw you had!

                                                                                                                                                                                                      ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby Dec 6, 2013 08:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oh, well, it's Friday and once I get home after work I'll read all about those penis dishes that Fuchsia made :) There might be something esle of interest there, right? However, I decided to give the magazine a chance based on what Joan said and subscribed - call me crazy :) I like to read magazines on the subjects that interest me - food, crafts, gardens - and love getting them in my mail box; always unexpected and delightful.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        And while I was subscribing I somehow wondered over to the Amazon and ordered Morden Thai Food by Martin Boetz...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen Dec 6, 2013 09:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm glad you went ahead and took a chance!

                                                                                                                                                                                                          ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            herby Dec 6, 2013 09:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Do you read it too?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen Dec 6, 2013 09:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              No, I was really excited about it and interested in it when it first came out, but I couldn't get my hands on one. I think I had an order for one and finally canceled it or something after waiting for months and months for it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Now I think to myself, "Who am I kidding, I don't have time to read this stuff..."

                                                                                                                                                                                                              ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    buttertart Dec 6, 2013 05:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Chinese food issue was excellent. And I hate to tell you this, but I've eaten what Fuchsia was cooking (bull's pizzle). Not something I'd do again.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Dec 6, 2013 05:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ha-ha-ha! I was telling a friend about it this evening and she said that if I cook it she'll eat it :) Very adventurous soul she is, lived on all but one continents and ate many strange things in her life.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      So, not as good as some would have us believe - interesting :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom Dec 7, 2013 03:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'd love to be there when you ask for it at your local Whole Foods ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby Dec 7, 2013 05:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          We do not have Whole Foods yet here in Ottawa - the rumour has it that it is coming soon. We do have a nice meat shop near me that should have all animal parts. But since Buttertart is not impressed with the dish I won't bother :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            rstuart Dec 7, 2013 09:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Herby! My mother lives in Ottawa.. is it Saslov's that you go to? That's her favourite,,

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby Dec 7, 2013 06:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Saslov's is famous for their sausages and have all kinds of meat as well. I like them and shop there sometimes. I also like The Butchery and Glebe Meat Market. My favourite is organic market but it is small and so hit-and-miss. Last time saw raw milk (I make kefir) but the vendor said that I need to buy a cow share to get the milk and was too busy to explain. I got his email and will write early January when everyone's life goes back to normal :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                rstuart Dec 7, 2013 09:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                It's probably for legal reasons: it's illegal to sell raw milk but I think that a legal loophole is if you "own" the cow...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  herby Dec 8, 2013 06:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Good point, bet you are correct! There was a line up of happy people and they were all saying something nice to me - "the best", "don't buy other kind any more" and so on. Now I want it and as I said, will pursue in January.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        rstuart Dec 6, 2013 07:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Dare I ask what it tasted like?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet Dec 7, 2013 05:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Chewy?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            rstuart Dec 7, 2013 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            That is what I was thinking... ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart Dec 8, 2013 04:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Chewy, not very much taste. It was in a soup -- get this, at a lunch buffet at the Hilton Hotel in Taipei.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            qianning Dec 7, 2013 09:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Beats snake gall bladder by a mile.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              meatn3 Dec 7, 2013 11:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              But snake gall bladder is just a nibble - bull's pizzle looks to be more than a mouthful!

                                                                                                                                                                                                              :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Allegra_K Dec 7, 2013 11:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hah. Pizzle.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  LulusMom Dec 7, 2013 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  naughty naughty.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    buttertart Dec 8, 2013 04:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Often labeled "cow's penis" in Chinese markets here.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LulusMom Dec 8, 2013 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That could confuse a person. I was under the impression cows did not have penises (sp?).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby Dec 8, 2013 06:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I thought the same...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart Dec 9, 2013 04:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Rather.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              esjro Dec 10, 2013 07:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I subscribe, but it is hit or miss for me. Depends on what the theme of the issue is. Yes, the gender issue was weird. There was a recent pullout about guts that was very weird too. There is enough content that is interesting enough to make me renew my subscription, though it is definitely not a magazine that I read every word of.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Lately I've been enjoying Kinfolk more:
                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.kinfolk.com/
                                                                                                                                                                                                              and Cherry Bombe is a good magazine written for women:
                                                                                                                                                                                                              https://cherrybombe.com/site/

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Both are less strange than Lucky Peach (though all McSweeney's publications are strange).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Westy Dec 11, 2013 06:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I find LP a bit too self-absorbed and precious.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I want to read about/try/cook amazing food and travel. LP is a bit...twee. All I want to ask when I am done with an article in LP is "After I smirk...then what?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                If I had any one periodical....Art of Eating.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  flourgirl Dec 11, 2013 05:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I feel the same way. I bought the first 6 issues or so, but I'm done. Not buying anymore.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                sandylc Dec 6, 2013 12:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I have become intrigued by the Advanced Bread and Pastry by Michel Suas. It is more a book for professionals, but I always think that these types of books hold magical secrets. It's just too pricey to buy without getting a look at it first, though...and physical stores don't seem to carry it, only internet sources.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  monbakes_downunder Dec 5, 2013 10:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Naughty November is catching up to me... Also just arrived here today are:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hoosier Mama Book of Pie
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Vietnamese Home Cooking - Charles Phan
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Into the Vietnamese Kitchen - Andrea Nguyen
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Pok Pok
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Hakka Cookbook

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  First flip through honours went to Hoosier Mama. I didn't really grow up with sweet pies (except for apple), so I'm excited to try a few from this book. Now, decisions decisions on what to read next....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet Dec 6, 2013 04:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You've been very bad. Santa will know.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think Hoosier Mama Book of Pies has an excellent food processor method for an all-butter pie crust. I really like this book, but I haven't baked anything from it yet, though I did make the crust.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Westy Dec 6, 2013 06:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have a book from Taiwan on Hakka cooking. 1/2 the page is in Chinese, the other half is in English. Some of it looks great, but what is missing are these AMAZING meatballs you can get in Hsin Chu. It is a heavily-Hakka populated city in taiwan known for these delcious little morsels of wonderfulness.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can eat roughly my bodyweight every time we go back.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        qianning Dec 6, 2013 09:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Westy, does your bi-lingual Hakka cooking book have an ISBN number?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Westy Dec 6, 2013 05:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          957 630 382 6

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            qianning Dec 6, 2013 06:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            thank you very much

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              qianning Dec 7, 2013 06:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alas, this side of various libraries in Taiwan it looks like it is a difficult book to find.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Westy Dec 7, 2013 09:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think, and this is my 2 cents, is that much of the recent buzz for Hakka food is less an interest in what hakkas ate while in china, and maybe more reflective of how wonderfully adept their cooks became as a result of their travels all over Asia. Some of my favorite meals were in Hakka owned ( or staffed) restaurants in India. There was A Chinese core, but a wonderful use of indian flavor says well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Westy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  LulusMom Dec 7, 2013 09:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Westy, have you looked at the Hakka Cookbook? If so, what do you think of it? Sounds as if you have a reasonable amount of experience with this kind of cooking.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Gio Dec 7, 2013 01:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm inters ted in your opinion of the Hakka book too, Westy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Westy Dec 10, 2013 05:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      In just looking at what i can see on line, it loks like an interesting book. The flavor combinations and techniques do seeem like what Hakka cooks would have done each time they encountered a new cuisine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can tell you that martin Yan's Chinatown has a Hakka section and that it is really very good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I should also tell you that, like every staple dish, stuffed tofu might be seriously authentic, there are a million ways of cooking it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom Dec 10, 2013 07:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks Westy. Just put it on my Christmas list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart Dec 10, 2013 05:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I think the Hakka cookbook by Linda Lau Anusasananan is essential for anyone interested in Chinese food.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And one of the journals perused by himself yielded news of this, which an Amazon is sending us...The Land of the Five Flavors: A Cultural History of Chinese Cuisine (Arts and Traditions of the Table: Perspectives on Culinary History) by Thomas O. Höllmann...with whom himself is not familiar, but we figured would be interesting to have about.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LulusMom Dec 11, 2013 03:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ah geez buttertart, couldn't you have kept this your little secret? it can't be unseen by me now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart Dec 15, 2013 03:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It's not as dry as i thought it might be. You'd love it (insert evil laugh here)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Gio Dec 15, 2013 03:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Dammit. I have the Hakka book but so far nothing has moved me. I ought to haul it out and take the time to read it in my self-imposed isolation from the rest of humanity.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom Dec 15, 2013 04:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Maybe, just maybe, once I get it and have the chance to look at it (say, mid 2015 - kidding, I hope) I will start a "cooking from..." thread? Maybe that would help motivate?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Gio Dec 15, 2013 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Possibly LLM. Or maybe I should stop buying cookbooks. By 2015 who knows what my limitations will be. This year has been the %$*&@*+ pits.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom Dec 16, 2013 02:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Sorry about that Gio. It is almost over. Lets hope 2014 is a wonderful year for all of us.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Dec 16, 2013 03:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Gio, sorry to hear 2013 has been the pits. Here's hoping to better days for you in 2014 (and, of course, even for the measly remains of 2013!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          rasputina Dec 5, 2013 11:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I finally bought The New Best Recipe and it came yesterday. Darn that book is huge and heavy. And even though I have other cookbooks from them, I'm glad I got it. I wouldn't have bought it if not for the raves here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Today I ordered Canadian Living The Complete Christmas Book: The All-You-Need Guide to a Memorable Christmas with Recipes, Crafts and Decorating Ideas.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            monbakes_downunder Dec 5, 2013 03:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ordered in November but have arrived here in the last few days:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Susan Feniger's Street Food
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Chewy, Gooey, Crispy, Crunchy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Eat - The Little Book of Fast Food by Nigel Slater
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Sara Foster's Southern Kitchen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Haven't had a chance to even look through these yet (bar a quick flip through Chewy, Gooey) because work has been so busy. Looking forward to some free time around Christmas to indulge!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And recently ordered:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            trEATs: Delicious food gifts to make at home
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Sweet Things: Chocolate, Candies, Caramels & Marshmallows - to Make & Give
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Rose's Christmas Cookies

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hoping these will provide some inspiration for the Christmas goodie bags we have started doing instead of bon-bons at our house :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              roxlet Dec 5, 2013 04:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Be sure to make the triple ginger cookies from Chewy, Gooey, Crispy Crunchy. They are outstanding.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              dkennedy Dec 4, 2013 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The A.O.C. Cookbook by Suzanne Goin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              After dropping many hints, my kids gave me this cookbook for my birthday. It was all I could do to not tear it open as soon as Amazon delivered it. I waited patiently until they handed it to me, all wrapped up with a pretty bow and everything. Then, like a child, I tore it open and devoured it, page by page. I should have prefaced this by saying I am a huge fan of Sunday Suppers and I have been eagerly awaiting this sequel for about a year now. It did not disappoint.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The thing I love most about Sunday Suppers is that I know, with 100% certainty, that if I follow Suzanne’s directions to the letter my dish will come out just as tasty as if I were sitting in her restaurant. And I know I will love how it comes out because I love her taste. Lucky me. The thing I like least about Sunday Suppers is that although I know that the recipes will be worth the effort, they can be very involved and exacting, and so they are often too complicated for me to make on a weeknight. So all my Sunday Suppers are for weekends, special occasions or holidays. To my mind AOC is the answer to that problem. It is as if she added on to Sunday Supper’s for the weeknight cook. Not dumbed down by any means just simpler fare. I’ll explain below.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I received AOC while on vacationing at my inlaws so I had a lot of time to look it over. I started with the acknowledgments and made my way straight through to the index. Not my normal M.O. but I found Suzanne’s voice very readable and so I was interested in taking her journey with her. I enjoyed learning about her family, her staff, and the origins of A.O.C. Although I have dined at all of her restaurants many times, I was unaware of why AOC was named A.O.C. (now I feel as if I should have know it) and that the name also explains the philosophy behind the menu. I also learned that she has had 3 children since writing her first book, and it has had an impact on how she approaches recipes geared to the home cook.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The book is broken down much like her menu in the restaurant reads – Cheese, Charcuterie, Salads (most sections are further broken down by seasons), Fish, Meat, Veggies, Wood burning oven, and Dessert. The last recipe section is followed by a Cheese Primer detailing all the cheeses served at A.O.C. over the years. And because wine plays such a critical role at A.O.C., each and every recipe has a wine pairing. Not a specific bottle but a style of wine, which I am finding very helpful. Each subsection has it’s own intro, and all the intros offer sage advice, reminiscent of Zuni. I learned a lot just by reading the intros!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Now onto the recipes. After my first read through I went back and tabbed the recipes I wanted to try. I only got ½ way through before running out of tabs. Just as well, I was feeling a little overwhelmed. The first recipe I tried was the Grilled arctic char with arugula and cherry tomato anchovy brown butter sauce, p. 116. I am teaching a cooking class next week and I thought this would be a good choice for the class so I decided to preview it. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. The arctic char (this is my first experience cooking this type of fish) looks a lot like salmon. The fishmonger described it as on the oily side but mild in flavor. I was wary, I don’t like oily fishes. Bought it anyway and made it as described in the recipe. Perfect results. The fish grills beautifully. The butter sauce, salad, and vinaigrette all played nicely against each other. One note: if using canned anchovies (which I did) omit any additional salt from the sauce. Other than finding time to go to the fishmonger on a weekday, this recipe is a good candidate for a weeknight meal.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Next recipe: The Young goat cheese with dried figs and Saba, p. 26. We had this with dinner on Tuesday served alongside pasta. The only cooking involved in this recipe was caramelizing the shallots which I loved. LOVED!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Tonight’s dinner: Grilled chicken with fresh garbanzos, corn and chile cumin butter, p. 187. Still in the works so I can’t comment yet but I will say I had to modify things for this recipe so my results may be a little off. I took chicken out of the freezer to defrost and proceeded with the other prep. I had fresh garbanzos in my freezer. When the chicken was defrosted, I realized it was a boneless pork shoulder so I am adapting. It will be pork seasoned and served in the style of this recipe and we’ll see how that comes out. So far I have made the chile cumin butter and it is outstanding. The seasoning on the partially cooked pork is delicious.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My next recipe to try will be the Skordalia on p. 186. I am planning on serving this alongside the char for my cooking class so I will report back soon. Other dishes/components that have caught my eye are the candied kumquats, faro, and the roasted squash.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              What else can I say about the recipes? Though the restaurant serves dishes in the small plate fashion, these recipes are all sized to serve 6 people and most work as main course stand alone meals. Lots and lots of vegetarian options. I really think this book offers something for everyone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The page quality, cheese section, explanation of aoc, salad intro, approachability, weeknight cooking, and permission to vary ingredients all played a part in my falling in love with this book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                JoanN Dec 4, 2013 06:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Very excited to read this, dk. Just finished planning my menu for a small dinner party this weekend and will be making the Chopped Salad, the Grilled Orata, and the Roasted Pear Crisp. Can't believe I'm serving guests a totally untested menu, but I have complete faith based on the results I've had from book # 1.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  greedygirl Dec 5, 2013 01:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm excited too. I put this on my Xmas list. I'm sure your party will be great - I serve untested menus all the time!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    JoanN Dec 8, 2013 06:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So, the dinner party was tonight and all three dishes from AOC were a huge success--and a huge amount of work. I'm thinking of starting a "cooking from" thread. Would you join me, dk? Would anyone be interested?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      dkennedy Dec 10, 2013 01:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I would gladly join you JoanN.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        JoanN Dec 11, 2013 05:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Done.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9274...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      dkennedy Dec 4, 2013 08:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Update re the Grilled chicken dinner (that turned into a pork shoulder). Fantastic. My family voted to continue to make it with pork rather than chicken. The cumin butter really brings it over the top.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        monbakes_downunder Dec 11, 2013 02:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks for the fantastic review, dk. I skipped over AOC many times when it was recommended by amazon - now I'm glad to know what a great book I am missing out on! I think, for me, that will be a purchase for the new year :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Caroline1 Dec 4, 2013 04:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Well, as a matter of fact, I did just order a cook book. After Jim Leff's thread about How To Cook Everything, and how disappointing Mark Bittman's recipe for potato leek soup was, I recommended a recipe from Bourdain's Les Halles cookbook that is on the web. I've used a couple of his Les Halles recipes I've downloaded from the web, and the mushroom soup is (IMO) just exceptional! The vichysoise recipe looked equally as good and is drawn from the same classic soup making techniques, so I then recommended the whole book, because if the PR about it and the recipes I've read on the web, AND browsing the "LOOK HERE" preview on amazon.com are correct. it's one helluva cookbook...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        BUT...!!! I haven't actually read it....... Soooooooo...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I ordered it because I wanna see how his CIA cooking school education stacks up against my 1950s 6 days a week tutelage under a retired Turkish Executive Chef who deserted her elite job (with her employer's permission because he was a friend) to work for me as chef/housekeeper because she was "sick of making the same thing the same way all the time." Like, how many tournedos Rossini can you make before you're sick of them???

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Julia Child began her first PBS TV series after I returned from Turkey. I think she was actually in Paris going to Le Cordon Bleu while I was in Turkey doing private chef lessons three squares a day. So anyway, initially I watched Julia's TV show primarily to look for any errors she made in technique or knife skills or whatever... AND SHE PASSED! So I kept watching. '-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And then it occurred to me after the Jim Leff thread that out of all of the celebrity chefs out there, Anthony Bourdain is the ONLY one I have NEVER seen actually cook on TV!!!! Have I missed something????? I know he and Eric Ripert are best buds, and even have a cocao import project together and such. BUT... Fact is I have not personally seen the guy cook on TV!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So I ordered the book. Its ONLY available in the big clunky hard copy/hard cover edition that will kill these ancient arthritic hands, but there's no Kindle edition available, and no paper back... So it should be along any day now. And I'm gonna check him out! And he'd better pass! I've already recommended him!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        But just you watch.... Next week there will be a big TaDAAAH, and Amazon will announce a Kindle edition just in time for the big fat guy in red! Whatcha wanna bet???? '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sr44 Dec 4, 2013 05:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I look forward to hearing your report on the entire book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart Dec 4, 2013 05:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hey Caroline1, so nice to see you here!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Caroline1 Dec 4, 2013 05:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks! :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Caroline1 Dec 7, 2013 06:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              RATS! I just got a notice from amazon.com stating that the vendor has still not shipped my Bourdain order, and asks if I would like to cancel. <sigh>

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Caroline1 Dec 15, 2013 04:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                My frustrdation is growing by leaps and bounds. It is now OVER two weeks since my order for this book was processed and charged to my account, yet the vendor has yet to ship!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                So this morning I cancelled the order, and ordered from another vendor with amazon.com who has a MUCH better record of shipping when ordered!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Wish me luck. I WANT to read this damned cook book...!!!!! And noooooo.... There is no Kindle edition yet, if there ever will be. THAT would get it here on time!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 Dec 15, 2013 09:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ha Ha Ha and Hee Hee Hee! SOMETIMES changing horses in the middle of a stream works out GREAT!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As stated in my post above, it is over 15 days since I ordered and paid for the Bourdain Les Halles cook book. Enough is enough, so I cancelled the original order from the original vendor, then bought it again through a vendor with an even better new book discount, and I just got a notice that as of 7:54pm CST this evening my order with the new vendor HAS SHIPPED...!!! WHEEEEE!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Some days I just LOOOOOOVE amazon.com. And then, when things go wrong like this, not so much. But then they turn it around into a wheeee day, and once again I'm a happy camper!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, and just in case anyone is interested, the price of this book through this amazon.com vendor is $29.23 which includes $3.99 shipping because this book through this vendor does not include the free two day Prime membership coverage. I'm pretty pleased! It IS a brand new book which apparently is "much in demand." :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So how come none of you guys seem to have such problems when you order books, or do you have them and just not talk about them?????

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    flourgirl Dec 16, 2013 11:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've ordered hundreds of books from Amazon resellers over the last 12 yrs or more and in all that time, I have had only one truly negative experience with a seller who turned out to be a real whacko. I try not to order from any seller with less than 98% positive feedback, I think that helps a lot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 Dec 17, 2013 06:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Cancelling my original order and immediately reordering from another vendor got me INSTANT shipping of Bourdain, but it also cost me 5 additional archaeology books, a lifetime passion of mine. <sigh> I have no shame. I have no self control. But I do have fun!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        flourgirl Dec 17, 2013 02:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LOL, when it comes to books on subjects I'm interested in, I have no shame or self control either. And yes, I have a lot of fun with them. It always helps to know that we aren't alone in our indulgences. And we all know there's far worse things to have a lack of control over.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Caroline1 Dec 31, 2013 05:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Can you believe? I received a notice this cookbook had shipped on the 15th. It gave a shipping number and everything, but when I tried to track it, no record...! Then I got a note from amazon.com about a week ago that if they don't get a shipping confirmation soon they would take action. Don't know what that meant, but for the very first time, and after frequent tries, I just got a track! It has now moved from Illinois to Georgia and is in the process of being passed from DHL to USPS... <sigh> Maybe I'll get it by Valentine's Day? ....maybe?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So now I'm wondering if ANY cookbook can be popular enough for this kind of backlog, or if I'm just another victim of the Christmas shipping mess-ups? Oh, well... at least I didn't order it from Target.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            sherrib Dec 31, 2013 07:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Caroline,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm REALLY interested to see what you think of this cookbook. I've been on a cookbook frenzy recently and, if you say it's a great book, would definitely want to order and wait three months for it myself!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        meatn3 Dec 17, 2013 12:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I guess I've been lucky with resellers. I do try to choose venders whose description of condition indicates they are discussing the specific book, not just a general phrase they use over and over. In my mind that seems an indicator of a more conscientious seller.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have been less than thrilled with books shipped by Amazon itself. Brand new books have been tossed in a box with one or two plastic bubble/pillows and have arrived with bashed corners. Get's me a bit PO'd when I spring for a new $$ book. This has happened with enough frequency where I am very hesitant to buy a new book from Amazon again.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          emily Dec 17, 2013 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I always send back books damaged by Amazon due to poor packaging - they will pay for the return shipping and send you a new one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            meatn3 Dec 17, 2013 02:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, they are good about returns.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I just find it annoying to (a) find the damage during the excitement of opening an anticipated goodie (b) having to deal with another transaction (c) that it could have been avoided in the first place.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Gio Dec 17, 2013 02:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's a good tip emily. And,here I've been blaming my mail deliverer person who stands on the front walk and throws the package on the porch.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              flourgirl Dec 17, 2013 02:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "I have been less than thrilled with books shipped by Amazon itself. Brand new books have been tossed in a box with one or two plastic bubble/pillows and have arrived with bashed corners."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've been noticing more of this myself lately. It's very annoying, and I just made a mental note to myself to call and complain next time it happens.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Edit: It's true that they're good about returns but it still takes time that I just don't have an abundance of. But I guess if enough people make the effort to request the exchange maybe they'll finally catch on that it would be cheaper to pack the books correctly in the first place.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                meatn3 Dec 17, 2013 02:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think you are right. I suspect that enough people just don't bother requesting an exchange - so the money they save on poorly packed items is much greater than what they loose on returns.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 Dec 17, 2013 03:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Overall, I've had good luck with books through amazon.com. ALL of the problems, save one, have been because the shipper uses USPS/Fedex. I HATE those people! They are fold/spindle/mutilate terrorists! But amazon makes up for it by making good, but still, the time it takes is frustrating.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The ONLY non-shipping problem I've had came when I ordered a used copy of Eileen Yin-Fei Lo's "The Chinese Kitchen." It's sort of a combination encyclopedia/coffee table book. The vendor said it was a library copy, and other than a public library sticker, was in excellent shape. When it arrived, it was all of that... and MORE! It absolutely reeked with tobacco smoke. I had no idea anything on the planet could hold and cling to that much stale tobacco odor! The book had to be exiled to the garage for weeks with daily page turnings and spritzes of Febreze before it was allowed in the house!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If that happened again today, I'd send it back and order another copy. Still and all, it is an excellent book on all cooking Chinese! If you don't have a copy, its well worth the thought... and action!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen Dec 17, 2013 04:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've been having the same problem with Amazon lately. A box of books, of assorted sizes, shipped in a box with no packing material whatsoever. Box arrives totally battered. I now complain about those shipments even if the damage to the books is minimal because it's only dumb luck that the damage was minimal. They will pay for the shipping for you to return it or give you a discount and let you keep the books, if you prefer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I ALWAYS complain.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LulusMom Dec 17, 2013 04:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      me too (always complain, but politely). They won't get any better if people don't let them know that they are messing up. I've noticed that I'm getting lots more "review our packaging" emails than I ever did before and I make sure to answer those when there is a problem.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Caroline1 Dec 17, 2013 05:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Shipping problems? <sheesh!> About six or so months ago, I had to replace my primary desk top computer. I type in really fast spurts (120wpm), so I MUST have a 'puter with an old fashioned dedicated keyboard port, because a USB keyboard misses whole paragraphs when I type fast! <sigh> So I finally settled on a quad core Xeon HP that should take care of me for the foreseeable future. NOT! I suspect the shipper lodged it between several boxes of magnets because ALL magnetic disks were wiped clean, including the BIOS! Can't boot, can't compute, can't do anything! So I sent it back. They shipped another. It arrived with a dent in the side of the case that looked like it was done with a heavy duty wrecking ball! I decided that model MUST be jinxed, so I upgraded to a DUAL Xeon quad core processors machine, and figured I should be set for life! FedEx delivered it on a VERY rainy day. The delivery guy set the computer carton on my front walk where a drain spout was POURING water on it, did NOT ring my bell, and left! Fortunately, my housekeeper was dusting the blinds in the living room and spotted it before it floated down stream. The carton was paper mache by that time, but we did get the 'puter out and let it dry out before plugging in. I'm writing from it right now. Oh... And this is TRUE! I'm NOT making it up! Three days after my computer arrived, I got an email that the company I bought it from (geeks.com) was going out of business!!!! I will miss them!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sometimes I wonder if I should go back to writing. God knows I have enough material for a truck load of dark comedies!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And to keep this about food, I also ordered some Lindor Chocolate Truffles. When they arrived, they were completely melted with their wrappers floating in the chocolate! After chilling, I could not separate the wrappers from the chocolate. Contacted the seller... Their response? "Too bad!" <sigh> I hope amazon.com gets their drones soon, because I'm sick of FedEx and the USPS! I still suspect the post man sat on my chocolates to squish them out of their wrappers like that!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Annnnnddd... Sometimes laughter really is the best medicine. Keeps me sane! '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          rasputina Dec 19, 2013 04:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This is why I buy single books most of the time. I have Prime anyway so it's not like it costs me anything to have them ship them separately.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              sr44 Dec 4, 2013 09:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Far be it from me to lead anyone astray, but I just discovered another source of English language books (perhaps other languages, I didn't see any): http://www.bookdepository.com/
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Some discount, free shipping. This includes UK imprints as well as US, and probably not the best source of the latter.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                herby Dec 4, 2013 10:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Always good to know about another source. Did you compare prices ? More expensive than Amazon at a first glance.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen Dec 4, 2013 10:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Free shipping anywhere in the world, though, so sometimes its a good source of books that are only available, for instance, in the UK.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Competitive prices, but never better than Amazon that I've found if it's a book that's available in the U.S.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    herby Dec 4, 2013 10:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Good to know about free shipping - thank you TDQ! Have you bought any cookbooks lately? You've been quiet...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Dec 4, 2013 10:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hmmmm...just some old weight watchers cookbooks, I think.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby Dec 4, 2013 11:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have not seen you on WW thread - do you ever read it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen Dec 4, 2013 11:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nah, seems like a pretty tight knit group. Plus, I follow SFT(hence the old cookbooks--they are from the core days and have lots of core recipes in them) and no one else in that thread seems to even know what that is. Probably too limiting for most 'hounds, I'm guessing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            herby Dec 4, 2013 02:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think you should come over and try it out - not as tight a group as it appears at first glance and new people (like me) come in now and then; all are welcome. Some people follow WW, some not but do whatever works for them. I need to loose some, more than some :) but am super undisplined and always have an excuse. This group motivates me and not just by doing well but because people stumble and pick themselves up and go on. And this precisely what I need to be doing - going on!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen Dec 4, 2013 07:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thank you for the gentle nudge, herby. I'll check it out. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    monbakes_downunder Dec 5, 2013 03:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I buy from book depository frequently - it usually ends up being cheaper for me in Aus because I don't have to pay for shipping. I know this great site, booko.com.au (US equivalent is www.booko.us), where you type in the title of the book you are searching for and it compares new and used titles across a range of online sellers. It usually factors shipping in, too. Helpful resource if you hadn't already heard of it!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      roxlet Dec 5, 2013 04:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That's great! Thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        lecker Dec 10, 2013 01:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks for those book links - very helpful and new to me. I am in German and the selection of English books available here are nonexistent. And if I order them from the local bookshop in English, it ends us being two or three times the price I would pay in the US or in the UK. Have you had any problems with the books you order from the bookdepository?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          monbakes_downunder Dec 11, 2013 02:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          No, never! They generally ship as books become available (so usually around 1-2 books per shipment) and they pack them really well. I've had pretty good luck buying online, the only time a brand new book arrived in less than perfect condition was when I ordered off amazon UK (twice!).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            lecker Dec 11, 2013 06:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh that's good to know. I checked their site and for shipping to Germany, it states there may be addiitonal VAT added as well as customs on top of the list price. I know someone who orders regularly from vendors outside Germany and she says customs often takes her shipments until she goes and pays the customs on it. They held her small vitamin order from the US for a few weeks until she went to them to pay and pick up the package. That is a concern for me now so I may wait to see if I can get my books another way.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              lilham Dec 12, 2013 01:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I thought shipping within the EU is custom and VAT at source? I have ordered a few times in Germany never have to pay extra in the UK. VAT is charged at the rate of origin. That's why there are companies here shipping from a country with cheaper VAT.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom Dec 12, 2013 03:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Good to hear from you lilham - hadn't seen you post in a while. Hope all is well.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  lecker Dec 12, 2013 10:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I thought so too, but it isn't always the case. When I was on holiday in France and Italy, I purchased wine from small wineries and I was hoping to have them ship it to me in Germany (Within EU, I thought). But the wineries informed me that the laws changed recently this year and if they shipped it, I would have to pay extra taxes/customs. I heard it from wineyards in both Italy and France. They said they had no problems shipping previously but that something changed recently. I ended up bringing back the cases of wine back in the car, which wasn't too ideal; and given the limited size of the car, I couldn't buy more wine. They probably want to control alcohol across the EU borders, similar to how the US, because of different state laws, restricts shipping alcohol from one state to another. What is the VAT in the UK?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    lilham Dec 14, 2013 11:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LLM, I have started a new job which involves a 2 hour commute each day. Doesn't leave me much time to cook and post anymore :(

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Lecker I'm surprised to hear about the change. It makes commerce very complicated cross border and against the concept of a trading block isn't it? VAT in the UK is 20%. I think it is one of the higher rates around?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LulusMom Dec 14, 2013 12:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yucky commute - sorry about that, but good luck with the job.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Siegal Dec 4, 2013 09:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I WON 6 ingrediant solution by Americas test kitchen from a cooking blog.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I never win anything so I'm super excited. This is not usually the type of book I buy - but as long as the Ingredients don't call for cream if whatever soup and cans of vegetables I'll be happy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Harters Dec 3, 2013 07:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Would have sworn I'd already posted on this yesterday.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Got (but not yet opened): "Eat", Nigel Slater.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Want (and hoping Father Christmas brings it): "Proper Pub Food", Tom Kerridge. The book of the TV series which saw me put on weight just watching it. This is not a book for anyone contemplating a diet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          monbakes_downunder Dec 5, 2013 03:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Eat just arrived here, too! I haven't had the chance to look through either - work and Christmas shopping is taking up a lot of time right now. I'd love to hear if you try anything from the book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            greedygirl Dec 5, 2013 09:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I've made quite a few things and reported on some of them on the Nigel Slater thread.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              monbakes_downunder Dec 5, 2013 10:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I just had a look... That Roast Chicken Pho looks delicious! I think I'm going to have the Stir Fried Chicken with Cashews and Broccoli for dinner tonight. Will also report on the Nigel Slater thread :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          DowntownJosie Dec 3, 2013 06:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          On my wish list:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          All about braising
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          AOC
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          All about roasting( not sure yet, waiting to read all the entries in this month's com)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Any try AOC?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            JoanN Dec 3, 2013 06:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Not yet, but two, maybe three, dishes are on the list for a dinner party next weekend. Very excited to be delving into it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              dkennedy Dec 4, 2013 11:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              DTJosie,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I got my copy of A.O.C. for my birthday and so far I have made three dishes from the book. If any of you have been hesitating because you thought this one couldn't live up to her last book, get out your wallets. I am loving this book.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I will post a full review below, but just wanted to respond that this one is worth putting in your own stocking!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                DowntownJosie Dec 4, 2013 11:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thank you! I need a little push. I have so many cookbooks and am so careful as to what I bring into my house. I am dying to try the carbonara risotto. What is not to love?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                aching Dec 22, 2013 07:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I just bought AOC for my mother-in-law, but I may also need to get a copy for myself. AOC has been one of my very favorite restaurants in LA since it opened, and it still is.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              3. LulusMom Dec 3, 2013 02:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Got Vietnamese Street Food yesterday. Soooo excited.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  herby Dec 3, 2013 04:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Lovely book, isn't it? I have not started cooking from it yet but there are many-many dishes that I want to make. Maybe a COTM some time soon?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom Dec 3, 2013 05:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I haven't really had a chance to more than thumb through it, but it looks incredible. I'm so excited and yes yes on the idea of it becoming a COTM.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can't believe I forgot to mention that a very kind fellow Chowhound (with an amazing memory) gave me a copy of Time Life's Cooking of the Caribbean Islands, knowing I'd been looking for a good Caribbean book. A special thank you shout out for this book, which I can't wait to try.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      JoanN Dec 3, 2013 06:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh my goodness. You just sent me on a quick trip through the time tunnel. Forty years ago, good friend from Britain married to a man from Jamaica. The Time Life Caribbean book was her make-him-happy weapon. Doesn't do you any good, but I can still taste the Roast Pork Calypso. If any of the non-meat recipes are anywhere near as good, you're in for a treat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom Dec 3, 2013 07:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yippee! That is good to hear. I love that food - really takes me back to the years when I used to travel down there at every 6 months or so. I'm looking forward to a nice sit with the book and then some cooking.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart Dec 4, 2013 05:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hey, I have that. Must have a look in it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby Dec 19, 2013 11:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LLM, did you make anything from Vietnamese Street Food yet? I've been sick and busy in addition to trying to get my freezer stash under control and reduce my pantry somewhat. Have not even look at the book since the first excited look through. Time to pull it off the shelf and start planning. Would love to hear about your experience.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Also meant to ask about Bill's Asian Food. Is it at all similar to Mighty Spice? I do not mean similar recipes but rather approach to cooking.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LulusMom Dec 19, 2013 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            No, I haven't even had a chance for a proper sit-down with VSF yet, to be honest. Christmas prep and social activities are taking up what time wasn't taken up by having a cold. I will say that from a cursory look at the book I'm wondering if it was really something I needed, since I already have two other Vietnamese books (the ones that were COTM back in about 2008). This may end up being wrong and a harsh judgement. I hope so.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            As for the Bill's Asian book, again, I haven't actually cooked from it yet, but from having looked at it I would say it is at least set up more like one of the Donna Hay books than the Mighty Spice book/s. That said, it does, obviously, have an Asian reference point which is very appealing to me. I think in January (whether it wins or not, which isn't looking likely at this point) I will make sure that I try at least one recipe from it. I'd also like to try another from MSE. I've tried 3 so far - 1 was out of the ballpark good, the other two were more sort of good but not great.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think I get pickier and pickier. I have so many books, and have gotten rid of so many this year (and not missed a single one ... yet), and so often see recipes that are very similar to things I already make or have no interest in making.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby Dec 19, 2013 04:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I took my freezer inventory sheet off the fridge and VSF to find a couple of recipes that match ingredients that I have. The book opened up to "braised beef" on p. 98 and I have almost everything but potatoes and annatto seeds whatever they are; the book doesn't say. Took a chunk of beef to defrost and will make tomorrow evening. Found "Caramel Fish" recipe which is intriguing and will make it too with a piece of cod from the freezer instead of mackerel or carp the book suggests. Need to get some Asian peppers (hot), green onions and bok choy for the third dish that I am considering - "Wonton Soup" - I'll make it with chicken stock from the freezer and minced chicken thighs instead of pork which I need to buy too along with wonton wrappers. That should feed me well over the weekend and beyond and will give me a good idea how the book is working for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Which Vietnamese books were COTM? Did you like them?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I like Donna Hay; her style of cooking is very compatible with my style and I have two of her books. I also like MS but not express. Waiting for Bill's Food to come to me from the library - have you cooked from it?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I am getting pickier with every passing year :) This year I am getting much better at returning books that do not thrill me. This requires discipline, Amazon gives you only 30 days to make up your mind and days go by really fast consumed by much more than cookbooks! I've returned MSE and now packing up Save with Jamie and Modern Thai Food - both are too simplistic and hold no interest for me. I am going to order Pok Pok because I am very intrigued by it and hope that I'll love it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen Dec 19, 2013 04:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Vietnamese month was Mai Pham's "Pleasures of the VIetnamese Table" and Andrea Nguyen's "Into the Vietnamese Kitchen." I adored them both.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  herby Dec 19, 2013 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Which one was your favourite, TDQ? I have two Andrea's books - Asian Dumplings and Asian Tofu - both are sitting on the shelf keeping other books company; how sad is that! And while I was rummaging among the cookbooks I came across another underused and forgotten one - Simple Asian Food by Nina Simonds. It is a little treasure and needs to come out into the light of my kitchen :) She has a couple of quinoa dishes - peculiar but maybe worth a try.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom Dec 19, 2013 05:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Very quick response as I have just come in from dinner and it is time to put Lulu to bed. I loved both the COTM Vietnamese books but if I had to choose would go for the Pham book. I don't think this is the universal feeling, so don't take my preference to be the one you should go for.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Dec 19, 2013 07:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thank you for that! I am going to stick with my current book for now and see how it goes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen Dec 19, 2013 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi Herby, I preferred Pham's, partly because I think I started cooking from it first. But, also because I really enjoyed reading her personal stories. The Nguyen book is more photo-rich, though, if that's important to you. But, I've never had a bad recipe from either book. You really can't go wrong with either. Can you take them out of your library?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Nguyen has a great website, too: http://www.vietworldkitchen.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I also have Nguyen's Asian Dumplings. It's a great book, too!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And...Simple Asian Food. Have never cooked from it, but really should! There are really some atypical recipes in that book, such as the quinoa, as you pointed out. UNforunately I bought the Simmonds book right around the same time as Every GRain of Rice and the Granger book. Overload.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ~TDQ

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby Dec 19, 2013 07:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thank you, TDQ! I understand overload all too well and this is why have been pacing myself this year with book purchases, trying to be selective and realistic. Some books are just nice to have not to cook from but for inspiration, joy of reading, etc. And it's OK as long this is the reason behind buying it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        JoanN Dec 20, 2013 05:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Pausing here to put in a word for the Nguyen book, even though I never bought or cooked from the Pham. Just this past Sunday, by request, I made a Vietnamese dinner for friends and was reviewing the COTM threads to plan the menu. As I read my own posts, I realized that one after another I kept writing that each dish I made was a winner. I was in love with the book after about four dishes and saw that I’d made a total of 18 dishes from the book. I think only one was one I wouldn’t have bothered repeating. Sunday’s meal was entirely from “Into the Vietnamese Kitchen,” and although he was certainly exaggerating, one of the guests declared it the best home cooked meal he had ever had.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby Dec 20, 2013 07:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thank you JoanN! This is high praise coming from you. Do you have her other two books I mentioned above? Have you seen Vietnamese Street Food that I am attempting to cook from this weekend? I want to like it and hope that I will. Regardless, I'll check COTM threads for both Vietnamese books and will take one or both out of the library though not sure if my library has either.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            JoanN Dec 20, 2013 11:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have "Asian Dumplings," but not "Asian Tofu." And, no, I haven't even seen "Vietnamese Street Food." Unfortunately, I'm going to need a kick in the butt to get into the dumplings book and am hoping to get it in the form of a COTM selection sometime soon. I've made dumplings before, and would like to improve my technique. But I try to lo-carb it when I'm cooking for myself so I need an excuse.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby Dec 20, 2013 01:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I would love for Asian Dumplings to be a COTM soon - maybe February? Good month for it, I think. Also need a kick to get me started and over my anxiety :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom Dec 20, 2013 01:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't have the book but this is one I'd buy. I'm nervous too, but that is the beauty of COTM. I've tried lots of things I didn't think i could do because of this group and found that, in fact, I can do them! And I love Asian food and it would be nice and light for early in the year while still having lots of flavor for those cold winter nights.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  herby Dec 20, 2013 05:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Let's nominate it for February, shall we? And persuade others to vote for it which should be doable if we already have a small tide going. Gio is always game for things out of the box, BigSal is an amazing inspiration for cooking these not always very straight forward dishes and there are many others who love the challenge and the reward that Asian Dumplings promise :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom Dec 21, 2013 02:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Won't pinky promise just yet, but I'll say that it sounds like a very appealing idea.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Dec 21, 2013 07:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Forgot to mention that there is a "cooking from..." thread for Asian Dumplings - http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/855251#

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's been dormant for a while but worth a look.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom Dec 21, 2013 08:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks herby. Just hit the little follow star on that. Some gorgeous photos on the thread.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      MelMM Dec 21, 2013 08:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'd be on board with that. I've had the book since it came out, and haven't made anything. And how did I miss the cooking from thread (oh, the same way I miss a lot of things)? I'll start following that thread now, and contribute to it when I'm able. A bit of travel coming up the first two weeks in January, but after that, I'm on it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby Dec 21, 2013 09:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The pictures of dumplings that others did are amazing. Andrea Nguyen stopped by the thread and offered tip on using chicken thighs as substitute for pork - works like a charm in Asian dishes that I tried.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    meatn3 Dec 20, 2013 01:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think coliver took a dumpling class this summer from Andrea Nguyen. Her posts were great and very motivating. I've been intimidated too but would be game to try.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LulusMom Dec 20, 2013 01:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Are we allowed to cheat and use wonton wrappers from the grocery store?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        JoanN Dec 20, 2013 02:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        "You may not always have time to make dumpling wrappers from scratch, which is why there are 'Lazy Day Tips' scattered in this book to guide you when you want to substitute store-bought skins."--from the intro to "Asian Dumplings"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LulusMom Dec 20, 2013 04:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Score!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LulusMom Dec 20, 2013 04:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Um, can you tell that between the Christmas sweets and the special adult beverages I'm a little wound up?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby Dec 23, 2013 04:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Made the braised beef from VSF and it is OK, nothing to rave about. I thought that with lemon grass, ginger, garlic and hot pepper it is going to be very aromatic and similar in a way to fabulous Vietnamese curries but no. It is not terrible, just nothing special.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom Dec 23, 2013 04:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Truly weird when that combination isn't a slam out of the ballpark. Sorry to hear it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  herby Dec 23, 2013 04:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I am going to try something else, probably that "caramel" salmon and hope that it is much-much better :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  In the mean time I have chicken thighs marinating for "glazed honey and soy chicken" from Bill's Food. Very curious about it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Westy Dec 25, 2013 08:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    One of my favorites, enjoy!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Dec 25, 2013 09:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Which one Westy? Chicken or salmon?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. jpr54_1 Dec 2, 2013 07:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My copy of Fancy Pantry arrived this morning-
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    very inexpensive -
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    There are many recipes I am going to prepare.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Sorry I didn't vote for it in COTM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby Dec 2, 2013 07:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The is a Cooking From ... thread for Fancy Pantry. Please post there once you start cooking. I am going to make lemon curd this week.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Westy Dec 2, 2013 07:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      On the lookout for good used cookbooks:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Its All American
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Rao's. Any of them
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. Harry's Bar and Grill

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        MelMM Dec 2, 2013 06:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Just ordered Mexico's Feasts of Life by Patricia Quintana

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. LulusMom Dec 2, 2013 03:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Computer on the blink but sticking my toe in here while I have the chance ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LulusMom Dec 2, 2013 04:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yippee, was just gifted with a kindle edition of One Souffle at a Time. Unfortunately because of the bug in my computer I'm going to have to wait to download it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LulusMom Dec 2, 2013 11:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And once my husband unpacks I'll have that JO recipe annual in my grubby paws.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                herby Dec 2, 2013 12:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Lucky-lucky :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Siegal Dec 1, 2013 04:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            yay! I'm first. I bought Balaboosta by Einat Admony today and B&N. I love Israeli food but wasn't going to buy it when I saw it on Amazon - the front picture just didn't turn me on. But my Israeli husband flipped through it at the store and wanted it for me too cook from.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We made the Shakshuka tonight - it was great. He said the best he had in a long time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart Dec 1, 2013 05:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Nice.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                herby Dec 1, 2013 07:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Have you tried Ottolenghi's Shakshuka? Not to temp you, just curious :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Siegal Dec 2, 2013 03:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Have not made it yet. I have plenty and Jerusalem i remember seeing it in one of them. I will have to try. Husband loves shakshuka and it's really healthy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Have you made it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    herby Dec 2, 2013 04:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It is in both, Plenty and Jerusalem. I tried Jerusalem version as written and would love to try variations - winter with potatoes and spring with eggplant. The version in Plenty also sounds interesting.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Allegra_K Dec 2, 2013 07:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The version in Plenty, imo, is hard to beat. It's become a dinnertime (anytime, really) staple around here. I'd recommend that you give it a whirl!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby Dec 2, 2013 07:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is the version with saffron, right? I have not tried it but wonder if the delicate flavour of saffron would be at all noticable among other strong flavour, i.e. cumin. What is your experience, Allegra?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Allegra_K Dec 2, 2013 08:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The saffron is definitely detectable in the dish, and somehow works so well with all of the other spices and herbs, like nearly every other unusual combination of ingredients to come from the mind of Ottolenghi. I have seen many other recipes of shakshuka, but haven't tried more than one because I think I've found the best version already.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            herby Dec 2, 2013 09:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thank you! I have to try it soon :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Vinnie Vidimangi Dec 12, 2013 05:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You don't need a recipe for shakshuka; indeed a recipe limits.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Gio Dec 12, 2013 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Indeed, Vinnie. However, if one has never cooked Shakshuka a recipe is necessary to get started. After that, I agree, you're on your own.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby Dec 12, 2013 06:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Isn't this the truth for any dish one is not familiar with? We need a recipe to start and after that we could do a variation quite successfully. Requires good memory that not all of us have; I very often refer to a recipe even if I know how to make a dish.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Baking is another story :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Siegal Dec 2, 2013 05:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Heres a picture of me making more shakshuka with the leftovers

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My husband saw it and it was so dark he was scared but it tastes good. I think the dark color is from the paprika I have that is like a burgundy color not bright red.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. roxlet Dec 1, 2013 04:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Well, someone spilled in my ear about a Sicilian cookbook, and then someone else on the previous thread spilled about an Amazon discount deal, and, well, for $14 I'm not waiting for Christmas! Coming Home to Sicily will be coming home to me on Tuesday.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart Dec 1, 2013 05:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hey hey hey! Who could that be?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet Dec 2, 2013 04:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        No clue, Lucifer.

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