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Weight Watchers Foodies -- Bermuda Triangle Edition, Part 2! December 2013 (OLD)

roxlet Dec 1, 2013 09:07 AM

Well, the end of the year is nigh, as is Christmas, New Years Day, and the last of the Bermuda triangle. It has definitely been a challenging period for me. Thanksgiving was particularly difficult since I was out of town at my SIL's house -- out of town and out of my routines!

Anyway, I will be trying to make healthful eating choices, remembering that Christmas is just one day, as is New Year's Day, when we have a big party.

Right now, a turkey soup is bubbling on the stove, which will make some low points meals for me.

How will you be handling the last days of temptation?

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    valerie RE: roxlet Dec 1, 2013 10:09 AM

    I cut myself some slack and ate what I wanted on Thanksgiving. I haven't been that full and uncomfortable in a long time and it was not pretty! But then it continued into Friday with the leftovers that I brought home from my sister's. So on Saturday, I declared that it's time to get back in control and I had a pretty good day yesterday and so far so good today. I did major food shopping this morning and I'm ready for a good "in control" week. Now hopefully I can practice what I preach!

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      roxlet RE: valerie Dec 1, 2013 10:14 AM

      We came home and made a turkey, so I have lots of turkey breast and the soup that's currently on the stove. No desserts, which is a good thing!

    2. roxlet RE: roxlet Dec 2, 2013 10:32 AM

      OK, so I figure that I have at least 3 weeks of weight loss ahead of me, and then I will be happy at Christmas. To this end, I have reinstituted my tuna and salad lunches that stood me in such good stead earlier on in the process. This time, however, I am using the salad dressing container that they sell at WW. It has a recipe on the side for a lime mustard dressing that is only 1 point for 2 ounces (the container perfectly measures 2 ounces). I've had the container for a while, but this is the first time I've used it, which gives you an idea of the diet ennui that I've been suffering. Anyway, this salad -- with a whole can of water-packed tuna, tomatoes, cucumber, and 4 ounces of dressing is only 4 points. I also had gotten a large contain of the Spring Mix salad greens from Costco, and I washed the entire container, spun it dry, and put it back in the container with some paper towels. This way, there is no lazy refusal to wash and dry salad greens. They will be always ready, so no excuses!

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        saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 4, 2013 10:36 AM

        I find that doing that kind of prep work makes life on plan/program so much easier. Good job!

        Any chance you could share the dressing recipe?

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          roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 4, 2013 12:54 PM

          Mustard Lime Dressing
          10 Tablespoons fresh lime juice
          2 Tablespoons olive oil
          2 tablespoons Dijon mustard (I used 3)
          1 tablespoon water
          5 cloves of garlic, minced (I used 1 large & put it through the garlic press)
          1/2 tsp salt (I used more --- not sure of the amount)
          1/2 tsp red pepper flakes.

          2 tablespoons, or 1 ounce, is 1 pt+

          This is really not bad for a low points dressing. Next time I might put some siracha in it in place of the red pepper flakes.

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            saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 5, 2013 07:34 AM

            THANK YOU! Sounds yummy... and I love the idea of the sriracha substitution!

      2. juliejulez RE: roxlet Dec 2, 2013 02:34 PM

        I've gained more than I should have... I was supposed to be maintaining, and my size 8's are getting tight! Not good... I got rid of most of my bigger clothes (on purpose!).

        So, my goal is now on weekdays, to really focus on lean meats and veggies, and cut out the sweets. Basically just going back to the basics I did when I first started losing weight. As much as I didn't want to, I did purchase some frozen meals to use in a pinch. My problem was that last minute stuff would come up, and I couldn't make the healthy meal I planned. So, having the frozen meals will help out with that. Weekends will still be rough but I was still able to lose while "letting loose" a bit more on weekends.

        Tonight I'm also going back to an old habit... using spices to add flavor without calories. I made a spice rub during the COTM back in May and so I'm using some of that to rub onto a pork tenderloin.

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          ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 2, 2013 02:40 PM

          Well....it was a festive weekend for sure. I gave away all the leftovers on Thursday so there was no temptation Fri morning but we were away on Friday night and Saturday night and had a jam packed weekend with our friends that included a nice dinner saturday evening and brunch yesterday.

          I've tracked everything and am out of weeklies for the week(my week starts on Thursdays). While I tried to make decent food choices, avoided a lot of cheap carbs, and only ate one large meal a day, I had a glass of wine on a few occasions and those points really add up quickly and really ate up my weeklies quickly(I rarely drink wine anymore for this reason!). I also found myself in the presence of some really good cheese twice and even taking very small pieces of a couple of the offerings, they are just point laden(with the exception of feta, ricotta and cottage I don't buy much cheese at home either so this having a little of the good stuff was a realy treat). I avoided desserts but the cheese and wine are just point bombs really.

          I have earned 46 activity points so far this week and have only used one of those so far so hopefully it all balances out somehow.

          Back at work today. The rest of the week will be very typical in meal patterns and I still have two more mornings of activity points to earn. Yogurt and fruit for breakfast this morning. Quinoa and veggies lunch. Dinner still to be decided but something when my daily points for sure....

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            ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 4, 2013 10:29 AM

            I feel like the WW scale is a scrooge really.LOL I was at the doctor this morning and was 3lbs less than at my meeting last week. Morning vs nighttime, different scale, yaddayadda but I still like the lower reading! LOL

            My husband made the quinoa salad I posted on last month's thread again last night. So tasty and 7 pts gets you a really filling portion. We've also been working our way through some of the Costco chicken noodle soup...it's a bit high in salt but only 4pts a cup and pretty tasty for a quick evening dinner.

            1. saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 4, 2013 10:30 AM

              OK, so this is a new thread for the new month, yes? Oh, now I get it! :-)

              We're just back from our Thanksgiving in Vegas, which was fun, involved some good food (but not too much!), some rebellion against rich/heavy stuff by my stomach, some moderate drinking and a whole lotta (too much!) walking. I had to take a day off to recover and rest my legs/feet, which were rather mad at me for all that work they had to do!

              When I got home yesterday, my scale said I was down a pound and a half, but I'll see what happens when I weigh in next Tuesday at my meeting for the official "damage" report.

              We ate at a Gordon Ramsay pub for Thanksgiving, where I enjoyed two sides (only): roasted brussels sprouts and baby carrots and yummy, creamy mac and cheese with truffles and duck-fat-fried "croutons" on top. And one cocktail. That was my Thanksgiving dinner! LOL! (And I was quite satisfied with it!)

              I also managed to maintain control at the one buffet we went to for brunch. I did eat a lot of veggies and lighter fare, but tried and failed to enjoy dessert. I tried a bite of about five different things that looked and sounded delicious, but tasted so average that I didn't want to waste the points.

              I did not track or count anything while we were away, but thinking back over the week, I wasn't too out of control. Even when grabbing In-N-Out Burger for our "last supper" out west, I got mine "protein style" - wrapped in lettuce instead of a bun, and ate about 1/5 of the fries in my container. (Again, not really worth the points to have more!)

              And, even though yesterday was still technically a vacation day for me, I went right back to counting/tracking my food intake and being back on plan.

              And one of you - sorry, I can't remember now who it was! - so kindly recommended the Costco hake loin last week. Well, I bought some yesterday and we had it for dinner with spinach and some kind of packaged flavored noodle mix (I only had 1/2 cup of that, since it's somewhat higher in points than I'd ordinarily choose, but it was what I had in the cupboard!) The fish is a great find, so I thank you very much for that rec! I love that it's just 2 PP per piece, is individually portioned, and is super quick and easy to cook!

              As for my holiday plan of attack, well, I made it through Chanukkah unscathed (not a single latke!), and I don't technically celebrate Christmas... but there are other "events" in the future that I'm not even really worried about right now, including a NYE party. I now trust myself to make good choices, and to indulge only in worth-it splurges (they have to be reaaalllly good to get me to spend my points! LOL!). Of course, my birthday is between Christmas and New Year's, and there will likely be a nice dinner out and dessert, but I've already made plans to bring healthy stuff to the NYE party (it's a pot luck).

              Here's to making through a challenging food month. We can do this!

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                roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 4, 2013 11:36 AM

                Well done! And good choices everywhere.

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                  ziggylu RE: saturngrrl Dec 4, 2013 11:58 AM

                  Sounds like you had a great trip and enjoyed the holiday well!

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                  Kontxesi RE: roxlet Dec 5, 2013 06:00 AM

                  Up 3.4. A bummer, but not really surprising. My Thanksgiving plates were pretty balanced compared to previous years, but I had a LOT of pie. >.> And then my mom's punch....

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                    roxlet RE: Kontxesi Dec 5, 2013 04:32 PM

                    I hear ya. Back down to earth!

                  2. roxlet RE: roxlet Dec 5, 2013 04:32 PM

                    Well, it could have been worse -- up .8, and given all the clam dip and chips and cocktails and wine I had last week, it could have been much, much worse!

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                      valerie RE: roxlet Dec 5, 2013 05:53 PM

                      That's not bad at all! In fact, it's pretty good!

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                      ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 5, 2013 07:45 PM

                      This has been the slowest ten lbs yet to lose...since October I've been trying. 5 lbs before the end of the year would put me at the goal I set during the summer for this year's weight loss. At the rate of the last several weeks I'm not sure I'm going to make it.

                      In the meantime my DH can't stop losing. He's training for a half marathon and apparently not eating enough with his current mileage...he lost another two this week. He's under orders to eat much more and add 8 points a day on top of the maintenance points.

                      Should make for some interesting meals between the two of us over the weeks!

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                        roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 6, 2013 04:41 AM

                        I won't have reached my year's goal by my anniversary in January, but it's bothering me less than I thought it would. Of course, I'd love to be there, but I have learned to look at this as a life-long commitment. It's not like I can lose the weight and go back to the way I used to eat and expect to keep the pounds off. My meeting has many life-time members, and they all still come and all still work at staying slim. At first it was depressing, but then my group became a community in a way, and I became more OK with the process.

                        I have bad knees, and I wish I could run as I did in my 20s. Congrats to your DH. I still dream of running all the time, and it's wonderful.

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                          saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 6, 2013 09:18 AM

                          Yep. I'm with you. I'm not going to hit my goal before my 1-year mark, but I'm totally ok with that. I HAVE changed my mindset and I HAVE changed my habits. I make healthier choices automatically, without it being a big ordeal/struggle anymore! I figure I'll hit my goal when I hit my goal. I have never, ever reached WW's goal range, so I'm DOING IT this time. I only have about 6 lbs to go to get there... and then I have to figure out the whole maintenance thing! :-D It truly IS a life-long thing, vs. a stop-gap measure. And I'm FINALLY ok with that. Only took 40+ years to figure it out! LOL!

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                            roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 6, 2013 11:30 AM

                            Haha! Not talking about my GOAL but my 1 year goal! I'm in this for the long haul!

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                              saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 7, 2013 05:47 AM

                              Goals are goals! I think it's very wise to set little goals along the way, but I also think it doesn't help to beat yourself up if you DON'T make one by the time you think you should! Any progress is good progress... hell, even maintaining is progress in my book! Long haul is what it takes, and that's a great mindset. Whenever friends complain they're not losing "fast enough," I remind them that they probably didn't GAIN the weight as fast as they want to shed it! We just have to keep on keepin' on.

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                                roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 7, 2013 05:49 AM

                                Wise words. I ditch my old clothes as I go to make it more difficult to slide back, which I haven't done. I'm in it for the duration.

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                              ziggylu RE: saturngrrl Dec 6, 2013 12:45 PM

                              I'm generally of that frame of mind as well. I am just a little disappointed though as I was down 30 at the end of Sept and wanted to be down 40 by the end of hte year which would put me more than halfway towards my final goal. Seemed really feasible at the time but then I got the black lung for weeks and it's been such slow progress since. In the big picture however I"m really proud of what I've accomplished since May 1 in terms of new habits and lifestyle. I haven't gained anything, and in fact have still been losing even if slowly, since returning to my previous job so I consider that a real accomplishment as well.

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                                valerie RE: ziggylu Dec 6, 2013 01:14 PM

                                "In the big picture however I"m really proud of what I've accomplished"...you should be proud!

                                This is what I keep telling myself. I am down 22 lbs. since March. I was hoping to be at 25 by the end of the year, and I still *might* be there, but if not, that's okay too. I stopped focusing on what I didn't do and started focusing on what I did do this year. I want to lose about another 8-10 lbs, and if it takes a little longer, that's okay. If it wasn't for WW this year, who knows how much weight I would have gained.

                                This will be the first New Year's in a long time where I don't have to walk around saying "okay, starting on January 1st I have to lose 30 lbs.".

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                                  ziggylu RE: valerie Dec 6, 2013 01:47 PM

                                  My DH and I were talking abotu that last night...how crowded it's going to be in January at our meeting...and how we're actually going to be the people looked at for inspiration as we'll be seven months down the journey at that point and still sticking with it(He'll be over two months into lifetime then!) It's goign to feel good to start the year knowing we've made such good changes for ourselves.

                                  I'd put off going to the doctor the last year and half as I knew I was at an age where my weight was going to start causing longer term problems and I wasn't really ready to face th emusic about it. That's stupid I know...but it really did finally motivate me to get my act together back in May when my 45th birthday was rapidly approaching. Even though I have 70-80 lbs total I'd like to lose...I'm down at a weight I haven't seen in over 13 years and that alone feels good...literally. I feel so much better about everything in my life and feel so much more fit and energetic than I did six months ago. I also no longer dread doctors appointments and am proud of taking care of this before I did cause myself long term issues. I see my parents health issues and it scares the beejeebers out of me in terms of quality of life and financial repercussions of poor senior health.

                                  I'd still love to lose those 5lbs before years end though! LOL

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                                    roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 6, 2013 02:25 PM

                                    Well, you have 3 weeks before Christmas, and, as they say, Christmas is only one day. You can do it!

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                                  saturngrrl RE: ziggylu Dec 7, 2013 05:49 AM

                                  I think it's great that you have that mindset. You SHOULD be proud of what you've accomplished. I like to celebrate even the "non-scale victories" along the way. Like smaller clothes, or another notch down in a belt, or compliments from people you didn't think noticed. :-)

                          2. roxlet RE: roxlet Dec 7, 2013 12:36 PM

                            Here's something I really recommend: I just took two huge black garbage bags filled with too-large clothing to the Goodwill. Man, that felt as good as fried chicken tastes!

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                              juliejulez RE: roxlet Dec 7, 2013 12:44 PM

                              I invited friends over to raid my closet... I had an entire queen bed covered with clothes that were too big. So much fun to see my friends go nuts and take tons of bags with them. Also gave some to another friend who is a single mom with no extra money to buy things for herself. I love it when I see her wearing a jacket I gave her in photos on facebook, she looks so cute in it!

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                                magic RE: juliejulez Dec 7, 2013 01:32 PM

                                That's really nice :)

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                                  roxlet RE: juliejulez Dec 7, 2013 05:05 PM

                                  That's great! Now there's no going back!

                              2. herby RE: roxlet Dec 7, 2013 05:18 PM

                                I have not lost enough to give any clothes away but as soon as I do I'll get rid of anything that is too big.

                                Went to the weigh-in this morning and surprise-surprise was down 0.5lb. I was so sure that I gained that this made me very happy :) I think that it is the walking that prevents me from gaining; my losses have been pathetic but at list the scale is moving in the right direction however slow. Since I bought pedometer and became aware how really sedentary my life is, I've been making serious effort to move. Friday was my best day ever at 9,500 steps! Every week I set a little higher weekly goal and tally it up on Friday evening.

                                I do need to start serious tracking and changing my eating habits and portion sizes and I am not as good at it as I should be. Any advice is muchly appreciated.

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                                  roxlet RE: herby Dec 7, 2013 05:22 PM

                                  A loss is better than a gain, every day of the week! Congrats!

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                                    herby RE: roxlet Dec 7, 2013 06:02 PM

                                    Thank you, Roxlet! Absolutely agree.

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                                    magic RE: herby Dec 7, 2013 07:03 PM

                                    Most losses seem to come in at 0.5lbs, 0.4lbs etc. so don't sweat it! Baby steps add up quicker than you think.

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                                      herby RE: magic Dec 7, 2013 07:08 PM

                                      Thank you for saying this, Magic! I am impatient and seeing other people getting their 5% and such stars makes me feel as a lager :)

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                                        magic RE: herby Dec 7, 2013 07:13 PM

                                        If there's one thing I've learned at WW is that there is truly no race and you will get there as long as you follow the program!

                                        Some people lose quick, some a little slower, some even slower! As long as you get there.

                                        Most of mine have been in smaller losses like yours. But it really does add up. And even if it's small it's a scale move in the right direction.

                                        Keep following the program by tracking religiously and constantly, and try not to leave eating decisions to the last minute (prepare in advance and research!).

                                        You're doing well by the sounds of it. Keep it going!

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                                          herby RE: magic Dec 7, 2013 07:18 PM

                                          You are right :) This thread actually helped me a lot to start on WW and to continue. I love it when people post meal ideas and recipes that work for them and are chow-worthy. I struggle with choices and portions and tracking. But as long as I am aware of my shortcoming I'll eventually overcome them :)

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                                            magic RE: herby Dec 7, 2013 07:58 PM


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                                          ziggylu RE: herby Dec 8, 2013 12:00 PM

                                          Better to feel like a lager than a stout! :-)

                                          Herby, you're doing a great job!

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                                        ziggylu RE: herby Dec 8, 2013 11:56 AM

                                        Herby, down .5 is great! Most of my losses are in that range with one big week every 4 or so. As the saying goes, slow and steady wins the race!

                                        When I started, I had so much to change it was overwhelming. I was totally sedentary(I doubt I got in 1000 steps a day ), made poor food choices, ate too many large meals, and my portions were out of control.

                                        I think trying to change everything at once is overwhelming, particulary for new habits to stick. Try picking one thing each week or so to focus on....maybe add a piece of fruit to each meal if you have trouble getting enough F&V in. Spend a week tracking everything you eat, without worrying too much about what you are eating..just get in the habit of trackings. Once you are in the habit of tracking look to see what small adjustments you can make week to week. More water. More F&V. More protein, less refined carbs. More exercise. Over time, they add up to a bunch of habit changes and the results will follow.

                                        I'm following my own advice...last week topic was about snacking. It made me realize since I went back to work at the university I haven't been snacking during the day. I stay within my points but only eat three meals a day. I'm wondering if this is some of my plateau so I'm now going to try and make some small changes in my routine to see if it helps. I chopped up a lb of carrots today to take for snacks during hte work day. Boiled some hard boiled eggs for a mid morning snack. This means I will have to adjuts my breakfast and lunch back down to lower point options as I add the snacks back in but I think in the long run it's a healthier way to go about things. We'll see....

                                        Getting out there and walking is a big habit change...that's awesome! Particulary given it's winter and the days are so short!

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                                          roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 8, 2013 05:52 PM

                                          Good words, ziggylu!

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                                            herby RE: ziggylu Dec 8, 2013 06:29 PM

                                            Many-many thanks, Ziggylu, for your thoughtful and informative words! Tracking is the habit that I need to develop and always at loss on how to figure out points on things that I didn't cook and even the ones I cooked; though this is just being lazy, really :)

                                            I made beet salad, roasted broccoli and carrots, a small roast beef, and prepped chicken with fennel dish for my lunches and dinners. Have fruit to take for snacks and breakfast is usually some kind of an egg dish and a piece of toast. I typically eat good healthy food; just too much of it!

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                                              valerie RE: herby Dec 8, 2013 07:40 PM

                                              Do you use the on-line recipe builder on the WW site? I find that it helps me a great deal. Yes, it's hard to figure out points of something you didn't cook but when I am planning dinners for my family for during the week, I often say to myself "oh that sounds good and fairly low in points". Then I enter it into the recipe builder and I am surprised that it is not as low as I thought. So I will often play around with the recipe to lower the points...less oil, cheese, etc. Personally, I'd rather have more of a dish that has lower points than have less of a dish with higher points. Does that make sense?

                                              And I mostly track on my iPhone (or if I'm in front of the computer, I just track on-line). I find the iPhone app really easy to use and I will pull it out in the supermarket to calculate points before I buy something if I have never bought it before. Sometimes I am shocked at point values of things I always thought were "healthy".

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                                                roxlet RE: valerie Dec 9, 2013 05:16 AM

                                                That completely makes sense to me that you'd want more of a lower points than less of a higher points meal. I feel the same.

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                                          autumm RE: roxlet Dec 7, 2013 09:45 PM

                                          I'm not following Weight watchers, but I love to read these threads. I would be much healthier weighing 50 pounds less than I currently do, and I get motivation in eating better for lunches here. Dinners, that's still my play time, but getting better, but thank you.

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                                            roxlet RE: autumm Dec 8, 2013 05:05 AM

                                            Please join in and let us know what you do for lunches. That's where I am currently very bored and looking for new choices. All ideas welcome!

                                          2. mels RE: roxlet Dec 9, 2013 08:55 AM

                                            I don’t do WW but I did lose 30 pounds 1.5 years ago and am maintaining. It took me months and months and months to lose the last 10 pounds, so I feel the pain of those of you who are losing slowly- been there, done that! I lost the weight by calorie counting (using the phone app MyFitnessPal) and no longer count calories regularly but I always keep in mind what size my portions should be. If my pants start to get a bit tight, I get strict and go back to calorie counting.

                                            I tend to be most successful when I plan. Plan meals for the week, plan out lunches, and have everything ready to grab and go. I knew this week was going to be crazy with work and other chaos in life for both me and my husband. We had Sunday free so we spent the afternoon cooking. We made a big batch of soup, grilled some chicken, and made an Asian style brothy/veg/pork mixture to be eaten over sautéed cabbage (me the calorie watcher) or rice noodles (husband who can take the extra calories). Now we both have plenty of options for quick heat and eat meals, lunch or dinner. This, for me, is KEY. Without prior planning, it would have been a week of take-out or other calorie bombs.

                                            Hopefully you don’t mind me crashing your WW party. I am always looking for different meal ideas that don’t break the calorie bank. Especially this time of year, when I seem to encounter trays of cookies, cheese plates, etc. daily. All the more reason I have to buckle down so I have some wiggle room for holiday parties or my coworkers ridiculously fantastic cookie platter that I know will grace my office with its presence soon!

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                                              herby RE: mels Dec 9, 2013 09:20 AM

                                              Welcome to the thread Mels! Always great to hear what other weight-minded people are cooking and what works and doesn't overall. What kind of soup did you make?

                                              I love making a few dishes for the week and feel more in control when I do it. Last weekend was very busy but on Sunday night I roasted carrots, broccoli and asparagus; made beet salad (from Plenty) and cooked small roast. Also prepped a chicken dish to cook on Tuesday for dinner with a friend. I hope this will make my week much better than the previous few have been.

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                                                mels RE: herby Dec 9, 2013 11:09 AM

                                                I made a sweet/sour beef and cabbage soup, based off of a recipe I saw on the Eating Well website for only 250 calories per serving. The "sweet" is a little honey and diced apple, the "sour" is a hit of apple cider vinegar. I just had a spoonful yesterday when adjusting seasoning and I thought it was good. Even better that I made it a day in advance so I can skim any solidified fat from the beef off of the top. That will be tonight's dinner- hopefully we like it because it made a ton!

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                                                  saturngrrl RE: herby Dec 10, 2013 05:39 AM

                                                  I'm pretty new myself, so I feel kind of obnoxious welcoming anyone to this thread, but hi! :-) I'm with you on the pre-planning being key. I typically do some prepping and cooking on the weekends so I'm ready to face the week with healthy meals and snacks. I keep a file drawer full of low-point snacks at the office -- things like Bamboo Lane Rice Rollers, individual packs of almonds, Fiber One and Fiber Plus bars and brownies/snack cakes, wasa crisp'n light crackerbread and Laughing Cow wedges, apples and PB2. I've gotten pretty good at resisting temptation when people bring in treats and baked goods and stick to the fruit and veggies and salads whenever there's a work-related meal brought in. I also stock my freezer with microwave-able breakfast options (Jimmy Dean and Special K flatbreads and egg white sandwiches, etc., and homemade egg white and veggie "muffins" that a friend created. If I make sure I have stuff I can eat, I'm less likely to cave when there's junk, and certainly less likely to hit a drive thru!

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                                                    roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 10, 2013 05:49 AM

                                                    How do you use the PB2? I bought some of it and it's languishing in my pantry.

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                                                      saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 10, 2013 06:34 AM

                                                      I mix it with a little water until it's peanut-butter-like in consistency and then spread it on apple slices. I've also mixed it into plain greek yogurt and used it as an ingredient in smoothies. Oh, and it works well to make a Thai peanut sauce! There are some interesting recipes on the Bell Plantation website... http://www.bellplantation.com/recipes

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                                                        magic RE: saturngrrl Dec 10, 2013 06:41 AM

                                                        Never heard of PB2 until just now!

                                                        You like? It taste/seem like peanut butter?

                                                        Any cons?

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                                                          saturngrrl RE: magic Dec 10, 2013 10:18 AM

                                                          It tastes like peanut butter but without all the fat. I love the stuff. They make a chocolate/peanut butter version, too, but I'm skeered to try that one... I'm afraid I'd just mix the whole jar with water and eat it all with a spoon! :-D

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                                                            magic RE: saturngrrl Dec 10, 2013 10:36 AM

                                                            Hmm, I wonder if we have it in Canada yet.

                                                            If not, I might have to pick some up when I get to the US over the holidays.

                                                            Thanks for the scoop!

                                                            1. re: magic
                                                              adrienne156 RE: magic Dec 10, 2013 07:49 PM

                                                              I buy it on Amazon.

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                                                                magic RE: adrienne156 Dec 10, 2013 08:10 PM

                                                                Thank ya!

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                                                                  adrienne156 RE: magic Dec 27, 2013 09:19 AM


                                                        2. re: saturngrrl
                                                          roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 10, 2013 09:19 AM

                                                          I love apples and peanut butter...too much!

                                                  2. re: mels
                                                    ziggylu RE: mels Dec 9, 2013 09:36 AM

                                                    Welcome, mels! I love the idea of subbing sauteeing cabbage in place of noodles or rice for Asian food. I'm going to start doing that. I use broccoli slaw in place of pasta for Italian dishes but hadn't thought of doing something similar for Asian.

                                                    I have gone back and forth between tracking with MFP and WW. I'm back to MFP the last two weeks. I never eat my activity points on WW and am never sure how to best use my 49 weeklies so WW feels ambiguous to me. I'm going to use MFP for the next few weeks and see if I get a better handle on how many calories are really optimal for me on a weekly basis to maintain a steady, slow loss. I prefer to count the fruit and veg calories too so I get the whole big picture. WW has been working but now that I'm plateauing and at a higher level of activity I think MFP might be more useful to break the plateau. We'll see.

                                                    Made a big pot of split pea soup yesterday. Some will be dinner tonight, lunches for DH for the week and the rest will go in the freezer for future. Will try and make a different soup each Sunday...!

                                                    1. re: ziggylu
                                                      saturngrrl RE: ziggylu Dec 10, 2013 10:24 AM

                                                      I have used steamed broccoli rabe in place of rice for Asian food. Not exactly the same, but I loooooove broccoli rabe, so it works for me! :-D I also eat Kimchi. A lot of kimchi. I buy jars of it at my grocery store - four or five at a time.

                                                      How best to use 49 weeklies? On "treats" and goodies. I try to use my daily points for REAL FOOD (making sure I check all the GHG boxes!) and use the weeklies for splurging... a couple of cocktails or glasses of wine, a dessert or two, maybe a salty snack if I have a craving. Or, some weeks, I'll spread out the weeklies to give myself 3 to 5 extra points a day for some "breathing room."

                                                      Went to my meeting today after a week away (and a long, food-filled weekend in Vegas) and was happy to have dropped another two pounds since my last weigh in. I was also the only person who showed for the meeting (we have "weather" here in the form of some snow, plus it's two weeks to Christmas! LOL!) so I had a nice, private consultation with our leader. It was fun. We talked about goal and maintentance and lifetime membership, etc. I'm less than 6 lbs. from goal and I'm pretty excited! Never been this close before. I can almost TASTE it. :-)

                                                      1. re: saturngrrl
                                                        ziggylu RE: saturngrrl Dec 10, 2013 02:54 PM

                                                        Congrats, saturngrrl. That's very exciting! Won't be long now!

                                                        My challenge with the weeklies is more about how many I should be using on a daily basis. I run 4-5 days a week and have been increasing my mileage so average over 20 miles a week. Plus I try and get a few yoga sessions and/or rowing sessions ine each week. I"m really struggling to find a sweet spot on average daily points that supports the activity but still allows for loss. This is why I've been trying My Fitness Pal again so I can have a better understanding of how what my net calories look like. It's been interesting to compare against the point system.

                                                        1. re: saturngrrl
                                                          roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 10, 2013 03:50 PM

                                                          Oh, that's great! I'll be so excited for you when you make goal. What an accomplishment!

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                                                      Kontxesi RE: roxlet Dec 10, 2013 03:27 PM

                                                      I just can't get ahead. Weigh in is tomorrow. Got rear-ended on the way home from work today. Tired, sore, and not caring about anything right now. Ordering pizza. I know I'm going to gain again.

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                                                      1. re: Kontxesi
                                                        roxlet RE: Kontxesi Dec 10, 2013 03:51 PM

                                                        Eating your feelings. I know about that! But you CAN have pizza! Is 2 slices enough? That's only 14 points, which you certainly can fit in your plan!

                                                        1. re: roxlet
                                                          Kontxesi RE: roxlet Dec 11, 2013 03:22 AM

                                                          Ha. No. I can never just eat two slices of pizza. :/ I think I had... six?

                                                          1. re: Kontxesi
                                                            roxlet RE: Kontxesi Dec 11, 2013 05:33 AM

                                                            OK, but you could still fit that in your weeklies! :)

                                                            1. re: Kontxesi
                                                              magic RE: Kontxesi Dec 11, 2013 09:48 AM

                                                              Enjoy the six slices and just move on!

                                                              Like I've heard once or twice in meetings:

                                                              You don't throw yourself down a flight of stairs when you miss a step. No reason to be doom and gloom. You're still in the game.

                                                              Just carry on and track and pre-plan. That pizza will soon be forgotten but your progress will be staring right at you.

                                                          2. re: Kontxesi
                                                            ziggylu RE: Kontxesi Dec 11, 2013 05:31 AM

                                                            Hope you weren't hurt Kontxesi!

                                                            1. re: ziggylu
                                                              Kontxesi RE: ziggylu Dec 11, 2013 06:41 AM

                                                              I seem to be fine, but I have preexisting back and neck issues from a previous accident. Hard to tell what's changed when it always hurts, you know?

                                                              My boyfriend is having a lot of pain in his left arm/shoulder/back. He put his hand out to brace against the dash.

                                                            2. re: Kontxesi
                                                              saturngrrl RE: Kontxesi Dec 11, 2013 07:36 AM

                                                              Oh, dear. Sorry to hear about the accident... hope nobody was injured! :-(

                                                              Did ordering/eating pizza make you feel better or worse?

                                                              1. re: saturngrrl
                                                                Kontxesi RE: saturngrrl Dec 12, 2013 03:54 AM

                                                                Worse! I hate Domino's, but they are the only place that delivers to us.... Lack of delivery options is the only thing that sometimes makes me wish I lived in a city.

                                                                We both had x-rays done yesterday and are going back this morning to get them checked out. My boyfriend has been having chest pain when he breathes, so that could be problematic. :/

                                                                1. re: Kontxesi
                                                                  roxlet RE: Kontxesi Dec 12, 2013 04:54 AM

                                                                  Yikes! I hope all is well! How did your weigh-in go? I always find that mine doesn't go very well if I eat something with a lot of sodium, like pizza, the day before, but you may be different.

                                                                  1. re: roxlet
                                                                    Kontxesi RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 05:45 AM

                                                                    Only up .4, so to me that's flat. Plus, I don't normally eat much except fruit on my weigh in day, but I had a doughnut, a bagel sandwich... and probably something else that I'm forgetting. So unless I keep being bad this week, I should be down next time.

                                                                    1. re: Kontxesi
                                                                      valerie RE: Kontxesi Dec 12, 2013 06:11 AM

                                                                      So you must have been doing things right during the week prior to the pizza incident! It's a new week now...time to move on.

                                                                      Hope you are feeling better quickly...

                                                              2. re: Kontxesi
                                                                juliejulez RE: Kontxesi Dec 11, 2013 07:44 AM

                                                                Ugh sorry to hear! I was rear-ended last year, and the person took off (they found him later since he had been previously arrested and was supposed to be on house arrest and I got his license plate #)... had to go through the courts to get money from him to fix my car (he had no insurance or license surprise surprise), and am still collecting over a year later. Just take care of yourself and don't feel bad about the pizza. I can't ever eat just 2 slices of it either. Today is a new day :)

                                                                1. re: Kontxesi
                                                                  Kontxesi RE: Kontxesi Dec 13, 2013 07:09 PM

                                                                  Just an update: Both of us have several misaligned spots in our spines (two for me, three for him), our necks are "sprung", and our heads are sitting crooked. But that's good news! All of it is stuff that can be handled by the chiropractor. No surgery required.

                                                                  Currently looking at three appointments a week for both of us. I don't see much cooking getting done for a while. :(

                                                                  1. re: Kontxesi
                                                                    roxlet RE: Kontxesi Dec 13, 2013 07:29 PM

                                                                    I hope things are straightened out soon!

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                                                                      herby RE: Kontxesi Dec 13, 2013 07:33 PM

                                                                      Just focus on getting well and properly aligned, and do not worry about weight and cooking for now. I am sure you will watch what goes in your mouth and make the best of the available choices. WW will still be there when you are well and ready :)

                                                                      Take good care of you and your partner, Kontxesi!

                                                                  2. eviemichael RE: roxlet Dec 11, 2013 04:49 AM

                                                                    I'm so glad to have found this thread. I'll be joining you from now on, fellow W.W. foodies! I need all the support I can get.

                                                                    I have lost 22lbs since September. I need to get in better shape to help with my fertility treatments. And also, I just want to be healthier in general.

                                                                    I did well on Thanksgiving because instead of participating in our annual ex-pat Thanksgiving gorge-fest, I prepared a healthy version with just my husband: Turkey, sweet potato mash, and arugula salad with dried cranberries and walnuts. I know...so sad.

                                                                    I don't mind using my extra weekly points for Christmas and New Years...it's the rest of the days I'm worried about. I'm going to be visiting my parents in the States from Greece, and I want to enjoy all the foods I miss...great Chinese, Indian, fried chicken, burgers, etc...

                                                                    For now, I'm planning on having splurge meals for lunch, and balancing it out with egg whites for breakfast and sauteed spinach for dinner...That way I can technically stick to my points.

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                                                                      saturngrrl RE: eviemichael Dec 11, 2013 07:35 AM

                                                                      Hiya! Sounds like you're doing great and staying in control. I think it's fantastic that you have a plan for your vacation, but are you really going to be satisfied with sauteed spinach for dinner? If you are, that's great, but I know for ME, that would never work! LOL! But planning ahead is a huge part of weight loss success, in my opinion. So kudos for that! :-) Hope you have a wonderful trip, no matter what you eat!

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                                                                        eviemichael RE: saturngrrl Dec 11, 2013 08:29 AM

                                                                        Thanks saturngrrl! I have been doing well so far...I'm just worried about taking 20 steps back over the trip. :-/

                                                                        I have eaten sauteed spinach with grated parmesan for dinner after really huge lunches and felt quite satiated actually...

                                                                        1. re: eviemichael
                                                                          ziggylu RE: eviemichael Dec 11, 2013 09:00 AM

                                                                          Welcome, eviemichael! Congrats on your success so far! Hope you have a great trip out here!

                                                                          That's my strategy when I can use it...to have a big midday meal and just veggies for dinner. Just something to take the bite of out hunger in the evening. Living in Greece(what part?) you'll be familiar with the items I veggie dishes I use for dinner meals....I like to keep fassoulakia(braised green beans) or horta( greens) in the fridge at all times and have that at night if I've had a large meal during the day. Unfortunately my typical 8-5 life doesn't allow for htis but when we're traveling or able on the weekend we like to keep to that type of meal schedule.

                                                                          Hope you have a good visit with family! Enjoy your time and whatever splurges you choose!

                                                                          1. re: ziggylu
                                                                            eviemichael RE: ziggylu Dec 11, 2013 09:04 AM

                                                                            Thanks for the warm welcome. :)

                                                                            I live in Glyfada, a suburb outside of Athens. We also eat a lot of fassolakia and horta! I've replaced a lot of meat dishes with Greek veggie and bean main meals in our weekly repertoire.

                                                                            I hope I'll be able to choose only to splurge when it's really worth it...and not just because it's in front of me!

                                                                            1. re: eviemichael
                                                                              ziggylu RE: eviemichael Dec 11, 2013 10:28 AM

                                                                              The "in front of me" is such a challenge! I dumped water on a piece of carrot cake Sunday night so I wouldn't pick at it while we were sitting drinking coffee after dinner! LOL Carrot cake isn't a favorite of mine but I knew darn well I'd eat the whole darn thing one crumb at a time over the next hour otherwise....!

                                                                              My parents' families are from Rhodes and Corinth. I wish I could get out there more often...! It's been almost 20 years since my last visit.

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                                                                                eviemichael RE: ziggylu Dec 11, 2013 09:34 PM

                                                                                That water trick is a good idea. :) I have considered pouring ketchup on things I'm afraid I'll eat because I absolutely hate ketchup.

                                                                                If you make it out to Greece again let me know so I can give you good restaurant recs. :)

                                                                                1. re: eviemichael
                                                                                  roxlet RE: eviemichael Dec 12, 2013 04:55 AM

                                                                                  I spent a happy month in Greece many years ago, after college. I long to return. I spent almost 3 weeks in a small house on Patmos. It was pretty idyllic.

                                                                                  1. re: roxlet
                                                                                    eviemichael RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 06:15 AM

                                                                                    How lovely. I hope you can make it back soon. :)

                                                                          2. re: eviemichael
                                                                            saturngrrl RE: eviemichael Dec 11, 2013 10:00 AM

                                                                            That's awesome... everyone has to do what works for them. I need SOME protein (and, if I'm being honest, a little fat and fiber, too!) with every meal and/or snack. I try to "complete the circle" as our WW leader likes to say - two or three macronutrients together are more satisfying/nutritious than one alone. I can't just have fruit for breakfast... I get too hungry too soon after. But if I have it with nonfat greek yogurt or - in a pinch - a stick of low-fat string cheese, I can last longer between feedings! ;-) Maybe the grated parmesan does that for you, though!

                                                                            And don't stress about a little backwards momentum. It happens, but if you get right back on plan/program after your trip, you'll more than likely be just fine. Just as long as you don't let any slips become gigantic slides back... :-)

                                                                      2. roxlet RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 10:28 AM

                                                                        Well, down .8, so I erased the up .8 from last week. I guess my goal is to not gain over the holidays. This weekend will be tough -- we'll be in New Haven for the US Junior Open squash tournament with meals out from Friday night until Tuesday mid-day.

                                                                        Our leader gave us a (highly) illegal preview of January's WW innovations. They're not changing the program, but they are adding a kind of 2 week quick start in which you can eat freely from the healthy choice guidelines. I totally intend to do it. I do look at January as starting the program over.

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                                                                        1. re: roxlet
                                                                          magic RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 10:31 AM

                                                                          Doesn't WW already have something like that?? Where you don't have to track if you eat power foods exclusively.....

                                                                          Congrats on that pound loss!

                                                                          1. re: magic
                                                                            roxlet RE: magic Dec 12, 2013 10:33 AM

                                                                            I think they used to, and maybe some people still do it, but it is not currently on the program. Just to be clear, this is not to replace tracking points+. It is just a 2 week plan for starting out.

                                                                            1. re: roxlet
                                                                              magic RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 10:35 AM

                                                                              Very well.

                                                                              I just went straight into simple, straightforward tracking and haven't looked back yet.

                                                                              1. re: magic
                                                                                roxlet RE: magic Dec 12, 2013 10:42 AM

                                                                                As did I, but since I've been in a kind of a slump, I plan to do it in January to get myself re-energized!

                                                                                1. re: roxlet
                                                                                  magic RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 10:53 AM

                                                                                  Oh for sure. Change-ups every now and then are a great thing.

                                                                          2. re: roxlet
                                                                            herby RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 10:41 AM

                                                                            Congrats, Roxlet! I am dreading Sat weigh-in as usual...

                                                                            Very interesting news about quick start. Have you tried it before or is it brand new? Wonder how it works and hope we'll have the option here in Canada.

                                                                            1. re: herby
                                                                              roxlet RE: herby Dec 12, 2013 10:43 AM

                                                                              It's so brand new that they haven't started it yet. I would think it would be the same in Canada. I think they always introduce something new in January so they have something new to trumpet in their advertising.

                                                                            2. re: roxlet
                                                                              ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 10:46 AM

                                                                              Nice Job, roxlet!
                                                                              Our leader mentioned last week she'd be talking this week about something new related to the Starting routines...maybe they are testing reactions with current members? I am not able to go tonight so won't hear what it is but sounds like that's what your leader presented, roxlet?

                                                                              I thought you could still switch the tracking over to power foods? I've never tried that system though.

                                                                              I'll be glad when this week is over. I've had some sort of holiday festivity every night this week and still have four more to go!(Thurs-Sat). I've been using My Fitness Pal for tracking and staying in my net calorie goal but I'll be so happy when next week is quieter and has less parties. (if for no other reason than I'm a homebody by nature! LOL). I'm really tired of the same very boring salad for lunch this week but given the evening activities it's been a good strategy.

                                                                              Will miss weigh-in this week. I'm staying off the home scale for now as well. Just pluggin along and trying to make the best choices I can and keep moving a bit each day.

                                                                              1. re: ziggylu
                                                                                roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 12, 2013 11:11 AM

                                                                                No, that wasn't what my leader was referring to. She actually GAVE us the counterfeit booklet that will be given out in January, and warned us to sit on it if her supervisor came around. Our leader is an older woman who has been doing this for about 20 years, and she will periodically do something from a past program and swear us to secrecy. She is terrific, and has quite a following.

                                                                                1. re: roxlet
                                                                                  herby RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 11:17 AM

                                                                                  Can you share with us what's in the booklet?

                                                                                  1. re: herby
                                                                                    roxlet RE: herby Dec 12, 2013 01:02 PM

                                                                                    It's called Simple Start -- 2 weeks of delicious, no-brainer meals from good-for-you foods. Basically, it outlines possible meals for breakfast, lunch and dinner, with photos, but it also has a mix and match section to help you to build your own meals not based on their specific suggestions. The meals are built from power foods, and it includes 3 meals, plus snacks per day. They visually recommend portion sizes giving you plates of food to look at, but you can eat more or less depending on your needs. You get 7 points a day for treats, but you cannot carry them over from day to day. Eat 'em or lose 'em.

                                                                                    1. re: roxlet
                                                                                      herby RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 01:09 PM

                                                                                      Thank you Roxlet! This is excatly what I need - simple exact guidelines on what to eat. I am definitely going to give it a try in January. Very excited :)

                                                                                      1. re: roxlet
                                                                                        valerie RE: roxlet Dec 12, 2013 05:49 PM

                                                                                        I went to my meeting today as well and I'm up .4. Not tragic but I feel like I've had a lot of "not tragic" weeks these past few weeks so it adds up. But in total I've only gone up .6 so I guess it's not so bad.

                                                                                        Anyway, regarding the new Simple Start, if you use the WW app on your phone, you can download the Simple Start app. It will ask you for your WW user name and password. I downloaded the app but haven't had a chance to look at it.

                                                                                        At this point, I feel like I've spent almost a year getting into new routines and habits so I'm not so inclined to try it. But I will take a look.

                                                                                        1. re: valerie
                                                                                          roxlet RE: valerie Dec 13, 2013 04:37 AM

                                                                                          I think it's basically a way to ease people into dealing with points, but it does limit foods a bit. I'll try it to give myself a kick in the butt.

                                                                                          1. re: roxlet
                                                                                            ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 13, 2013 07:38 AM

                                                                                            I couildn't go to the meeting last night but my DH did and brought home the Simple Start booklet and the info on the phone app. Looks pretty simple and functions just like the Simply Filling method it seems.

                                                                                            I've been tracking with My Fitness Pal for the past ten days or so, so I don't know that I'll give this a try right now but might in the future. It'll be interesting in January to see how it works as a starting routine when it's time for people to start transitioning over to the points system. I can how this will work well for first of the year marketing to get people in the door at New Year.

                                                                                            1. re: ziggylu
                                                                                              roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 13, 2013 11:51 AM

                                                                                              Well, I guess my leader isn't such a renegade then! :)

                                                                                              1. re: roxlet
                                                                                                ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 13, 2013 12:53 PM

                                                                                                Ours has been around forever too...and considers herself a renegade. LOL Maybe they are sisters! (unless you live in AZ and they are one and the same!)

                                                                                                1. re: ziggylu
                                                                                                  roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 13, 2013 01:39 PM

                                                                                                  Nope. New York. But birds of a feather, certainly!

                                                                              2. roxlet RE: roxlet Dec 14, 2013 11:40 AM

                                                                                We're away this weekend for a tournament at Yale, and right now, I'm so happy with the choices I've been able to make. The hotel had a container of Cheerios, nonfat milk and an apple for breakfast, and the restaurant we went to for lunch had grilled chicken kebabs with tzatziki, tomatoes and olives. So yum and so on program.

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                                                                                  magic RE: roxlet Dec 14, 2013 11:44 AM


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                                                                                    valerie RE: roxlet Dec 14, 2013 04:15 PM

                                                                                    Good for you!

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                                                                                      eviemichael RE: roxlet Dec 15, 2013 02:17 AM

                                                                                      I'm impressed. Whenever I go on trips, I have a really hard time sticking to my points limit...

                                                                                      1. re: roxlet
                                                                                        ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 15, 2013 06:08 PM

                                                                                        That's great, roxlet! Hope the rest of the weekend went well too!

                                                                                        This was a tough week. I couldn't make weigh-in so I stayed off the scale altogether. I'm trying not to start obsessing on it so I"ll just wait until I can go to weigh in this week. I had some sort of Christmas party every night this past week. I survived them all and based on my tracking on My Fitness Pal averaged right about my target net calories. We'll see what that means next time I weigh in.

                                                                                        I was looking forward to a quiet routin week starting today. Ran a 5k this morning and set a personal record, unintentionally taking 5+ min off my typical time(I had no idea I was going at that pace). Unfortunately, i'm paying the price now as an old Plantar Fascitis injury seems to have flared up. Hope that doesn't mean I'm out of commission for a while.

                                                                                        Had to check my dog into the doggie hospital this afternoon for pneumonia so worried about her too. Eating a half a pear right now and tryign to resist the urge to eat my worry about her.

                                                                                        So much for a quiet routine week! Hope everyone else had a great weekend and is enjoying a tasty and healthful holiday season!

                                                                                        1. re: ziggylu
                                                                                          roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 15, 2013 06:39 PM

                                                                                          I hope your doggie makes a swift recovery! Sounds like you're doing great given all the partying you've been doing!

                                                                                          1. re: ziggylu
                                                                                            roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 16, 2013 06:28 AM

                                                                                            Yesterday was definite day off with Popeye's chicken on the menu. Getting right back on the horse today.

                                                                                            1. re: roxlet
                                                                                              eviemichael RE: roxlet Dec 16, 2013 08:18 AM

                                                                                              3 Popeyes chicken legs are only 9 points! I had to look it up because my grandma loves to stop there with me at least once during our visit to the States. :)

                                                                                              1. re: eviemichael
                                                                                                roxlet RE: eviemichael Dec 16, 2013 10:14 AM

                                                                                                I'm paying for it today. My (ahem) digestive system wasn't happy with the abrupt change of diet. On to grilled chicken and tzatziki for lunch.

                                                                                            2. re: ziggylu
                                                                                              saturngrrl RE: ziggylu Dec 17, 2013 03:59 PM

                                                                                              Congrats on the record-setting 5k! And sorry to hear about your dog. Hope she's ok! What kind is she? I have a Border Collie and a step-Pomeranian... and two cats. Things tend to get a bit, um, hairy around here! LOL!

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                                                                                                ziggylu RE: saturngrrl Dec 18, 2013 10:59 AM

                                                                                                She's a standard poodle. I have two standards. She's the older, my younger is a real handful. But no shedding so I forgive him a lot! LOL She's home from the doggie hospital and out of danger but still has the pneumonia. Hopefully the arsenal of antibiotics do their job.

                                                                                                Foot still out of commission so just rowing and yoga this week. I have been able to walk the other dog too. Fortunatley, not many festivities this week so food wise been sticking with lots of fruits, vegs, and lean proteins too. I keep thinking about baking some christmas cookies but figure why tempt myself? We have a basketball game tonight...i haven't found anythiing I like to eat at the stadium this season so I'm having a larger lunch and going with popcorn for dinner tonight. Why waste points/calories and meh food?

                                                                                                1. re: ziggylu
                                                                                                  saturngrrl RE: ziggylu Dec 19, 2013 10:16 AM

                                                                                                  *Why waste points/calories and meh food?*

                                                                                                  I could not agree with this statement more. I don't do that anymore.

                                                                                                  Glad your girl is home and hope she's even better today!

                                                                                            3. re: roxlet
                                                                                              saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 17, 2013 03:26 PM

                                                                                              Sounds like you did great over the weekend and made excellent choices! I was also away, visiting family down south (Atlanta and Montgomery, AL) and did the best I could, sticking to fruit and oatmeal for breakfasts, salads and light-ish sandwiches for lunches and whatever seemed most program-friendly for dinners. Of course, one place we went for dinner was a very down-home southern comfort food type place. I had fish, but it was fried (I picked off much of the breading! LOL!) and veggie sides, but I'm pretty sure those veggies were either cooked with ham and/or butter. So I just ate a little of everything until I was satisfied, ultimately eating about a quarter of what was on my plate. I did not count/track at all on this trip!

                                                                                              My home scale seems cooperative, showing a loss, but I was unable to get to my WW@Work meeting today, since I worked from home due to the "weather," aka SNOW! :-) Then I found out that we don't have another meeting until January 7!! ZOMG. I guess I'll just have to keep on trackin' and hope for the best until then! :-)

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                                                                                                roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 17, 2013 05:51 PM

                                                                                                Thanks, but my weekend (4 days, actually) turned out to be pretty up and down. Thursday will tell how far up or how far down!

                                                                                            4. eviemichael RE: roxlet Dec 15, 2013 11:47 PM

                                                                                              What do you all usually do when you want to stick to healthy eating during long flights?

                                                                                              I'm traveling from Greece to the States on Friday, and I was thinking of bringing some snacks with me, and buying healthier options at the airport rather than eating the served airplane food...

                                                                                              When I'm tired during travel, I usually just stuff myself with the muffins or "beef" or whatever they're offering...

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                                                                                              1. re: eviemichael
                                                                                                roxlet RE: eviemichael Dec 16, 2013 06:30 AM

                                                                                                Yes, definitely bring your own food. Aside from being more diet friendly, it will certainly taste better! Bring a lot of fruit. Also, you may want to check with the airline to see if it offers diet options for meals. Often, these meals are better than the regular gelatinous fare!

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                                                                                                  eviemichael RE: roxlet Dec 16, 2013 08:17 AM

                                                                                                  Thanks! Airplane food is mostly vile, but I don't usually think ahead to pack something.

                                                                                                  I'll get some nuts and fruit for the short flight and buy some healthy sandwiches during our stopover for the longer flight.

                                                                                                  I can call the airline, but I wonder if it's too late to order special meals.

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                                                                                                  saturngrrl RE: eviemichael Dec 17, 2013 03:31 PM

                                                                                                  I typically take a bag of snack-y foods with me, apples, little individual packets of raw almonds, Fiber One or Fiber Plus bars. But I haven't taken any flights much longer than 4 or 5 hours lately. Fortunately, the airports around here have started to offer better choices for those of us who want to eat healthier, which is a good thing. Salads, lighter sandwiches, smoothies (not that those are all what I would consider healthy, but there are some good options if you choose wisely), and I noticed a lot of the gift shops had healthier snack/protein bars and granola, etc. I use my handy dandy WW app on my phone to look up or calculate points for stuff before I buy it! Good luck and safe travels!

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                                                                                                    eviemichael RE: saturngrrl Dec 17, 2013 08:25 PM

                                                                                                    Thanks! So far I have raw almonds and apples which will hold me on the short flight to Frankfurt, but ill have to buy some stuff during the stopover before the 9 hour flight to DC...
                                                                                                    I always crave heavy carbs when I'm tired so I'll also try to be as rested as possible before the flight.

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                                                                                                    eviemichael RE: eviemichael Dec 21, 2013 04:16 AM

                                                                                                    I didn't end up doing too well during the flight...I started out ok on our first flight to Frankfurt, and had apples and almonds, and I ate only the yogurt offering on the airline food tray. But i am coming down with a bad cold, and by the time we got on our connecting flight to the States, I just didn't care and ate whatever they put in front of me- plus loads of honey when I got home in about 10 cups of tea.

                                                                                                    On another more positive note...I'm pregnant! My weight loss really helped with my fertility treatment. I am planning on using weight watchers maintenance points from now on. :)

                                                                                                    I will be eating a LOT healthier and cleaner than I was planning before...

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                                                                                                      valerie RE: eviemichael Dec 21, 2013 04:59 AM

                                                                                                      Congratulations...that's great news!!!

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                                                                                                        ziggylu RE: eviemichael Dec 21, 2013 05:09 AM

                                                                                                        Wow! Fantastic news! Congratulations!!

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                                                                                                          eviemichael RE: ziggylu Dec 21, 2013 06:14 AM

                                                                                                          Thanks to you both! I am really thankful to the weight watchers program for helping me get healthier to be able to conceive.
                                                                                                          I WILL miss foie gras and pinot noir and medium rare burgers though...lol

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                                                                                                            herby RE: eviemichael Dec 21, 2013 07:53 AM

                                                                                                            How exciting for you and your partner and grandparents to be :) Congratulations!

                                                                                                            I am not approaching WW correctly, I know it and trying to figure out how to do it better. One thing I know for sure that if something I love was off forever I won't be trying too hard. You can have everything you love after the baby is born, just not everyday and maybe even not every week which I am starting to realize.

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                                                                                                              eviemichael RE: herby Dec 21, 2013 12:37 PM

                                                                                                              Yes, instant gratification through food is definitely a habit that weight watchers is helping me break.

                                                                                                              Thanks for your well wishes!

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                                                                                                          roxlet RE: eviemichael Dec 21, 2013 08:20 AM

                                                                                                          Excellent news, and it's a great idea to follow the plan during pregnancy. You will be healthier for it, and your baby will too!

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                                                                                                            eviemichael RE: roxlet Dec 21, 2013 12:40 PM

                                                                                                            Thanks roxlet! I know that technically weight watchers doesn't allow pregnant members (I suppose for liability issues), but I don't see what would be wrong with counting maintenance level points.

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                                                                                                              roxlet RE: eviemichael Dec 21, 2013 02:52 PM

                                                                                                              Just make sure you are maintaining, and then gaining slowly, not losing!

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                                                                                                            juliejulez RE: eviemichael Dec 27, 2013 09:59 AM

                                                                                                            Congratulations! That's awesome :)

                                                                                                            The website I used, sparkpeople.com has a site catered to women who are pregnant or trying to get pregnant, it's called babyfit.com ... there's probably some folks there that use Weight Watchers, might be a good community to check our for support while pregnant :)

                                                                                                        3. roxlet RE: roxlet Dec 19, 2013 08:59 AM

                                                                                                          Well, not surprisingly, up 1.2 this week with Christmas and New Year's still looming. Ugh! And my group lost a collective 43 lbs this week. I obviously didn't contribute!

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                                                                                                            magic RE: roxlet Dec 19, 2013 09:45 AM

                                                                                                            We all have good days and tough days, good stretches and tough stretches.

                                                                                                            If your tough stretch comes during the trickiest and hardest time of the year, you could be doing much worse.

                                                                                                            Life gets back to normal in January, don't worry too much about it. :)

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                                                                                                              saturngrrl RE: magic Dec 19, 2013 10:25 AM

                                                                                                              Wise words, Magic.

                                                                                                              It's funny, as I was walking out of the grocery store last night, it occurred to me that I could probably stop counting/tracking for the rest of the year and be ok. I don't have another WW@Work meeting until Jan. 7, so my home weigh-ins won't truly even "count!" LOL!

                                                                                                              I just got back from the office cafeteria with a ginormous salad that I estimate to be about 6 points (some chicken, some chick peas, a smattering of wheatberries, olive oil. I've eaten a third of it and I'm FUUULLLLLL! Yikes. I was so incredibly hungry this morning... I had multiple breakfasts... oatmeal, fresh pineapple and canteloupe, then some wasa crisp 'n light crackers with a wedge of laughing cow cheese, then some miso soup. Guess I better go track all that!

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                                                                                                                magic RE: saturngrrl Dec 19, 2013 10:34 AM

                                                                                                                Track track track!

                                                                                                                Sounds like it's a good day though :)

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                                                                                                                  weezieduzzit RE: magic Dec 19, 2013 10:36 AM

                                                                                                                  Yep- tracking keeps you honest and focused. The calories still count and cheating is only cheating yourself.

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                                                                                                                    magic RE: weezieduzzit Dec 19, 2013 10:43 AM

                                                                                                                    It's impossible to fool your body.

                                                                                                                    It always knows.

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                                                                                                                    magic RE: magic Dec 19, 2013 11:02 AM

                                                                                                                    Mmm, lunch! 8 points.

                                                                                                                    Smoked Salmon (50g) – 3 points
                                                                                                                    Fresh onion challah roll – 4 points
                                                                                                                    Cream cheese (1 tbsp) – 1 point
                                                                                                                    Baby spinach and capers – 0 points

                                                                                                                    (In case anyone needs any useful meal ideas)

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                                                                                                                      ziggylu RE: magic Dec 19, 2013 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                      Sounds delicious! I love smoked salmon!

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                                                                                                                        magic RE: ziggylu Dec 19, 2013 11:15 AM

                                                                                                                        Lots of love for this sandwich! Especially for the low Points Plus value.

                                                                                                                        Spinach helps make it a bit more filling to and doesn't interfere with the taste... even adds some nice textural body!

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                                                                                                                        roxlet RE: magic Dec 19, 2013 11:34 AM

                                                                                                                        I lived on this last winter, except I was using a really good whole grain bread.

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                                                                                                                          magic RE: roxlet Dec 19, 2013 12:27 PM

                                                                                                                          No way! Think I’m gonna have to start living on this myself. Mmm!

                                                                                                                          I work near a shop where I can access fresh rolls and bagels daily. The fresh onion challa roll makes it.

                                                                                                                          I’m very lucky.

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                                                                                                                Kontxesi RE: roxlet Dec 19, 2013 09:35 AM

                                                                                                                Up 1.4, which brings me to a total of 5.2 in the wrong direction since Thanksgiving. Blarg.

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                                                                                                                  roxlet RE: Kontxesi Dec 19, 2013 11:08 AM

                                                                                                                  I feel your pain.

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                                                                                                                    juliejulez RE: Kontxesi Dec 19, 2013 11:46 AM

                                                                                                                    I'm with ya. I'm up 4.5 in the past few months. Indulging in too many office treats and not planning/tracking ahead are my downfalls.

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                                                                                                                    ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 19, 2013 07:46 PM

                                                                                                                    Down 3.2 tonight, which is really over two weeks as I couldn't make it to our meeting last week. I'm down 4 since the beginning of December and glad to finally be over the plateau hump.

                                                                                                                    I liked today's meeting. We moved past the food pusher theme and started talking more generally (again) about holiday strategies, and pifalls and successes people had encountered so far. The recurrent theme was about balance and not deprivation. Stuff that is common sense to people who haven't battled weight problems but are hard habits to learn for those who have. I haven't done any holiday baking this year but even without stuff around the house, this is just a challenging time of year!

                                                                                                                    Just the fact that we're here in this thread and thinking about how to make the best choices is forward progress. It would be very easy to never open this thread again and settle in to a container of peppermint ice cream and rich hot fudge sauce wouldn't it? So kudos for all of us for keeping on keeping on! Happy Holiday's y'all!

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                                                                                                                      magic RE: ziggylu Dec 19, 2013 08:32 PM

                                                                                                                      Woohoo!!! Well done!!!!!

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                                                                                                                        roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 20, 2013 04:11 AM

                                                                                                                        Wow! You're my hero!

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                                                                                                                          valerie RE: ziggylu Dec 20, 2013 06:30 AM

                                                                                                                          That's great!

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                                                                                                                            herby RE: ziggylu Dec 20, 2013 07:55 AM

                                                                                                                            Congrats Ziggylu! Great way to close the year off :)

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                                                                                                                              eviemichael RE: ziggylu Dec 21, 2013 04:13 AM

                                                                                                                              Good for you!!

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                                                                                                                              ziggylu RE: roxlet Dec 26, 2013 06:47 PM

                                                                                                                              Merry Christmas, everyone! Hope you all had a great holiday!

                                                                                                                              Our weigh in was tonight and we went...down .2 which I"m calling a victory with considering it was a week of wine, yule log, cheesecake, cheesey potatoes, cookies, and cheese/caramel corn!

                                                                                                                              Gave all the leftovers away. Still do have some gingerbread men left but they are in the freezer and we'll go back to one cookie a night with tea or coffee.

                                                                                                                              New Year's isn't a treat laden holiday for us so I"m breathing a sigh of relief that holiday temptation will be behind us now!

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                                                                                                                                valerie RE: ziggylu Dec 27, 2013 05:20 AM

                                                                                                                                Any loss is a victory! I myself chickened out yesterday and skipped my meeting. I had every intention of going and then I found a million excuses for not going. These past 2-3 weeks have been difficult and honestly, I feel gross!

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                                                                                                                                  roxlet RE: valerie Dec 27, 2013 05:50 AM

                                                                                                                                  I feel your pain. I am planning on doing the new program beginning on January 2nd, the day after our New Year's Day bash.

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                                                                                                                                    herby RE: roxlet Dec 27, 2013 06:38 AM

                                                                                                                                    I am debating whether to go to the meeting tomorrow or give myself another week of indulgent and destructive behavior. I caught an awful flu in addition to all the festivities and have almost recovered but not 100% yet. Planning to do the new program as Roxlet and hope that it will be offered here in Canada.

                                                                                                                                    Happy New Year everybody and here is to it being healthier and thinner for all of us :)

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                                                                                                                                  saturngrrl RE: ziggylu Dec 27, 2013 02:41 PM

                                                                                                                                  FANTASTIC! Definitely a HUGE victory. Congratulations! Good job!

                                                                                                                                  I think I'm up about a pound, but I'm completely fine with that!! I am letting myself indulge (a little, within reason - no, seriously, sometimes one little bite of something is all I need) but only through Jan. 1. Then I'm back on the bandwagon. Yeeee haawww!

                                                                                                                                3. roxlet RE: roxlet Dec 26, 2013 07:20 PM

                                                                                                                                  I really debated about going to my meeting this morning, but I finally decided to bite the bullet, and learn the worst. And it was bad news -- up just over 3 pounds. I'm pretty upset about it, and not looking forward to next thursday either since we have a big open house on New Year's Day.

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                                                                                                                                    saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 27, 2013 02:56 PM

                                                                                                                                    OK, now let me point out a couple of things, if I may:

                                                                                                                                    1) The fact that you took the positive step of GOING to your meeting is a BIG DEAL.That is awesome! Fantastic! Great job outta you!

                                                                                                                                    2) Three pounds. Eh, so what? You got this! You KNOW what you're looking at/working with, and knowledge is power. You can turn that ship around now that you know. And you know how to do it, right? Just follow the program. Count, track, check the GHG boxes... lather, rinse, repeat!

                                                                                                                                    OK, one more thing. Be proud of yourself for going to that meeting. Seriously! A HUGE deal. No kidding. :-) Don't beat yourself up for the gain. Celebrate the upside.

                                                                                                                                    And please figure out a way to look forward to the open house. Pick a few of your favorites and supplement with veggies, fruit or other low-point treats you enjoy (and you may be surprised... others might enjoy/be grateful for them, too!! I know I would be happy to have program-friendly choices at a party I was attending!)

                                                                                                                                    OK? OK. :-)

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                                                                                                                                      roxlet RE: saturngrrl Dec 27, 2013 06:53 PM

                                                                                                                                      Thanks! Were you a cheerleader? ;)

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                                                                                                                                        saturngrrl RE: roxlet Dec 28, 2013 06:33 AM

                                                                                                                                        Guilty. ;-)

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                                                                                                                                          ziggylu RE: saturngrrl Dec 28, 2013 07:38 AM


                                                                                                                                          Roxlet, our leader this week made a big point about everyone that came to the week's meeting since it was the day after Christmas and what winners they were for being there, loss, gain or opting not to weigh in. She gave everyone 5 bravo stars just for showing up! LOL

                                                                                                                                          Anyway, saturngrrl said it all well...and I wasn't a cheerleader... but don't be upset or discouraged! Our leader also asked us to think back on last holiday season and ask ourselves what had changed...and to be proud of that no matter what the scale showed for the evening.

                                                                                                                                          I hope you have fun at your Open House!

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                                                                                                                                            roxlet RE: ziggylu Dec 28, 2013 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                                            Thanks, we always do!

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                                                                                                                                      Kontxesi RE: roxlet Dec 28, 2013 08:21 AM

                                                                                                                                      I'm anticipating something similar. Normally weigh in on Wednesdays and didn't go to a different meeting this week, but I will probably stop in on Tuesday next week just to check it out (no meetings on Tuesday here). My pants are getting uncomfortable.... I'll probably be up a total of 8-10 since Thanksgiving.

                                                                                                                                      Time to get serious again.

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                                                                                                                                      valerie RE: roxlet Dec 28, 2013 07:08 AM

                                                                                                                                      Well I decided to get on my scale at home this morning just to see how bad it was! I'm up 2 lbs. since Thanksgiving. Actually not as bad as I thought.

                                                                                                                                      I'm still looking on the bright side...it's almost NYE and I'm still 20 lbs. lighter than I was last NYE.

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                                                                                                                                        ziggylu RE: valerie Dec 28, 2013 07:40 AM

                                                                                                                                        Yay! A net loss over the year is something to absolutely be proud of! Congratulations!!

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                                                                                                                                          roxlet RE: valerie Dec 28, 2013 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                                          Yes, I am trying to think positive -- I am down 40 since last year. Ready to get serious again on January 2nd!

                                                                                                                                        2. rabaja RE: roxlet Dec 28, 2013 11:00 AM

                                                                                                                                          I've posted occasionally, and I've half-heartedly tracked on line, I've even pledged internally to do better. Instead, I fear I've gained almost everything I lost back in 2011...maybe not as bad as that, but my big jeans are tight.
                                                                                                                                          Moving forward, I'm vowing to get back on track in the New Year. Too many cute clothes I can't got into, plus I need to set a good example for our son.
                                                                                                                                          You hear me, ladies? These 25 pounds will not define me!
                                                                                                                                          Let me just get through the next four days and I'll be right with you...

                                                                                                                                          Eta: reading this thread has been part of my inspiration to do better, so thank you! Off to eat my fruit and yogurt.

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                                                                                                                                            roxlet RE: rabaja Dec 28, 2013 12:47 PM

                                                                                                                                            Yeah, no more big jeans!

                                                                                                                                          2. roxlet RE: roxlet Jan 1, 2014 05:48 AM

                                                                                                                                            Let's put the old year behind us, and continue here:


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