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PANCAKES & WAFFLES & FRENCH TOAST - LA Dish of the Month (December 2013)

PANCAKES & WAFFLES & FRENCH TOAST - LA Dish of the Month (December 2013)

Your month in the limelight has arrived wienermobile.

The dish of the month for Los Angeles for December is Pancakes, Waffles and French Toast.

Here's a link to the voting thread:

The goal is to collectively try as many different varieties, iterations, types, kinds and sorts of Pancakes, Waffles, and French Toast as imaginable in Los Angeles. And, it goes without saying, that telling us of fabulous places to find those items that you've been to in the past is great, and recounting vivid memories of some great sweet or savory breakfast carb-driven dish is also fun, but what we want are real-live, current progress reports of what and where you are finding and eating battered items that are baked, fried, or toasted, or whatever.

So let's start exploring and eating—report back with reviews and photos.


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  1. I love the johnnycakes at Dish in La Canada. Savory, corny, tasty - I don't use any syrup, I butter them, salt and pepper them, and break off pieces like giant fluffy flatbreads.

    I also love (but it's more of a guilty pleasure) the pancakes at Nick's downtown. Light, not too sweet or salty and bigger than my head. Love that fact that I can get a huge, single simple but really good pancake as my breakfast "bread." And they reheat at home like a dream.

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    1. re: happybaker

      I love those johhnycakes too at Dish in LaCanada too! .

    2. House special sauteed banana pancakes at Metro Cafe.

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      1. re: J.L.

        they do a nice sort of bananas foster french toast at jar if you're a banana pancake fan...i enjoy those. Will have to hit up the metro

      2. Joe's Cafe in Granada Hills makes a fantastic Stuffed French Toast. It's stuffed with a cream and fresh sliced strawberries. Then it's topped with more fresh berries and comes with sides of syrup and more cream/ butter. I haven't had their Belgian Waffles, but they look delicious. This is a very small cafe with homemade muffins and also serves Intelligenista coffee.

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        1. re: granadafan

          Absolutely agree with you on Joe's Cafe. I have been there on 6 occasions for brunch. The stuffed French toast is amazing and the coffee is great. The only problem is that the place is small so sometimes you may have to wait. But, it is definitely worth it.

          1. re: Kalivs

            I've been several times and can never finish the stuffed French Toast.

        2. Had my favorite this morning to celebrate pancake month at The Original Pancake House in Redondo Beach. The 49er flapjacks, extra thin and a little bit chewy. So good. If anyone want's to try them at home I found a recipe

          49er FLAP JACKS
          Original Pancake House Copycat Recipe
          Serves 4-6

          2 cups flour
          1 cup milk
          1/2 cup sourdough starter
          2 eggs, beaten
          1 tablespoon baking powder
          1 tablespoon sugar
          1 tablespoon oil
          1/2 teaspoon salt

          Preheat greased griddle. Mix everything together. Spoon 1/4 cup onto hot griddle, leaving room for spreading--it will be a little runny-that ok. Cook until the top of each pancake is bubbly then flip over and cook until lightly browned. Serve at once with maple syrup and butter.

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          1. Dang!

            How could I have forgotten!

            The flannel cakes at Musso and Franks : )

            So thin and light, you'd better order them at the counter as they'd be cold by the time they found their way to you at a booth.

            But so tasty, they are worth sitting at the counter, watching them being made...

            1. Nano Cafe in Monrovia has cinnamon roll french toast.

              The rest of the breakfast wasn't as good tho

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              1. re: blimpbinge

                Nano Cafe ... that's a blast from the past.

              2. Great list of places to hit! Can't wait to see the results.

                1. Amandine has great french toast -- their other great dish is their quiche, and they have the best croissant under $3 ($1.95 takeout). The french toast takes a few minutes, is two slices of a brioche dunked in a rich custard and griddled nicely to a delicate in the middle tender-crisp outside. I usually get them with whipped cream.

                  1. Talk about timing, The LA Weekly just ran it's list of 10 best pancakes in Los Angeles with Du-pars as their #1. What do you think? What was left off?

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                    1. re: wienermobile

                      I think Du-par's is riding on its own coattails from the past. Either the recipe changed or my tastes have, but their pancakes, while not bad, definitely should not be in the No. 1 position in all of LA.

                      I did like the special "Hunka Hunka Burnin' Love" pancakes http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/fred-6... at Fred 62 and the buttermilk pancakes at John O'Groats is my local favorite (usually with chocolate chips added but without whipped cream).

                      I also really liked the lemon ricotta pancakes at Cafe Stella http://www.flickr.com/photos/guzzlean... in the Sunset Junction complex and the Ouef's Pain Perdu at The Kettle is quite tasty - two eggs, bacon or sausage, breakfast potatoes and french toast stuffed with cream cheese & orange marmalade.

                      1. re: Servorg

                        The Naylor family changed the recipe at Du-Par's when they bought the place a few years ago. Less noticed but no less of a travesty was the change to the French toast as well. They may not have changed the batter; however, they stopped removing the crust from the bread. As a result, the bread does not absorb as much of the batter, and does not become as custardy as it used to.

                        Even worse is that they actually have the gall to lie about it and claim that they've made no changes. Anybody who's eaten there before and afterwards knows otherwise.

                        1. re: Jack Flash

                          I've been eating DuPar's pancakes for more years than many
                          hounds have been living and I would testify under oath that their pancakes are NOT the same!

                          Considering the price differential, I'd rather get a short stack at Philippe's. Haven't been to Uncle Bills' in years but I think I really liked theirs.

                          1. re: wienermobile

                            Du-par's was really disappointing when I went a few years ago. Definitely didn't live up to the hype. My favorite by a large margin are the pancakes at Schooner or Later in Long Beach.

                            1. re: JAB

                              I like the crab melt there, great stuff.

                            2. re: wienermobile

                              I'm surprised Musso & Franks Flannel Cakes did not rate.

                              1. re: SilverlakeGirl

                                SLG -

                                Look for my "dang!" They were my second posting and I could not believe they weren't my first.

                            3. Love those BLD ricotta blueberry pancakes. That's my #1 from the LA Weekly list

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                              1. Had some meh beignets from Jazz Kitchen Express in Downtown Disney with the fam. Does that count?

                                Also, on our way home we stopped at Mas' [sic] Chinese Islamic and got some sesame bread with scallions (does that count?) and some scallion pancakes (that's gotta count).

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                                1. re: TheOffalo

                                  What did you think of the sesame bread?

                                  1. re: ipsedixit

                                    I liked it. I've had it before. Need to try the one(s) in SGV (Omar? Any others?) to compare and contrast.

                                    1. re: TheOffalo

                                      I don't believe Omars has sesame bread, they have meat pies (same as ones you'll find in other Uyghur places like Silk Road). Good, but not the Halal sesame bread you got at Ma's.

                                      In SGV, one of the last outposts to still do sesame bread (with or without scallions) is China Islamic. Little Sheep does them as well, but go to China Islamic instead.

                                      1. re: ipsedixit

                                        China Islamic is still around ?

                                        That's good to hear.

                                      2. re: TheOffalo

                                        Ma's is pretty good, but not nearly as good as the one at the long lost Tung Lai Shun *le sigh*


                                  2. Today went to Uncle Bill's in Manhattan Beach. My son loves their Cheddar Bacon French Toast and I love their crisp Cheddar Bacon Waffle. Maybe it's genetic?

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                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                      The Woman In The Hat says Uncle Bill's regular pancakes top her list.

                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                        WM, did you have pancakes/french toast today both for breakfast and lunch ?????

                                        1. re: kevin

                                          My son had the French toast and I had the waffles

                                      2. I love the German pancake from Flappy Jack's. With a bunch of lemon juice squeezed onto it.
                                        Also, I think my favorite pancake at the moment is the version they have at The Monrovian. I get them cooked well done (one side comes out kinda crisp) and only eat them with butter. BTW, their bacon is delicious and the eggs always come out as ordered.
                                        French Toast from Marston's.

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                                        1. re: WildSwede

                                          <French Toast from Marston's>


                                          1. re: WildSwede

                                            I was able to try it today. Pretty good! but the toppings (or w/e it gets tossed in) get soggy quickly. It's also really really filling.

                                            What's even better imo, is their bread pudding w/ their grand marnier sauce!

                                          2. Are crepes part of this DOTM consideration?

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                                            1. The cinnamon French toast I recently tried at Nickel Diner was delicious

                                              1. Where can I find great lemon or lemon ricatta pancakes?

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                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                      In the last few days I heard a drop dead great review of the Larder at Burton Way, one of Suzanne Goin's endeavors. They have Lemon Ricotta Pancakes.


                                                      I checked her Tavern in Brentwood but they have Butternut Squash Pancakes.

                                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                                        I really like the lemon ricotta pancakes served with blueberry compote available at Mike & Anne's in South Pasadena

                                                        1. re: wienermobile

                                                          I completely forgot about the wonderful lemon ricotta pancakes at Fig in Santa Monica.with that thick pat of almond-blueberry butter on the top. So good,

                                                          1. re: wienermobile

                                                            Shoot. I'll have to try it. I've never heard of this dish here.

                                                          2. re: wienermobile

                                                            Was never the biggest fan of Brite Spot in EP but they've revamped their menu and ramped up the quality of their ingredients.

                                                            Had their lemon ricotta pancakes with blueberry compote - this dish seems to have gone viral over the last coupla years, right? - and thought they were really tasty.

                                                            As for my feelings towards pancakes in general, Mitch Hedberg pretty much nailed it.


                                                            1. re: wienermobile

                                                              Shutters on the Beach--downstairs. It's their specialty.

                                                            2. Tried the tall stack of pancakes and the banana french toast at Bob's Hawaiian on Western in Gardena. The pancakes were decent and they were huge. The banana french toast nothing more than a basic french toast (Hawaiian-style bread) with bananas and whipped cream - eh. Stick with the grindz at Bob's. Oh yeah, their corned beef hash and potato patties were tasty - I'd count them as potato-y pancakes with corned beef and peppers - as long as the pancake police approve.

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                                                              1. re: bulavinaka

                                                                Oh yeah, their corned beef hash and potato patties were tasty - I'd count them as potato-y pancakes with corned beef and peppers - as long as the pancake police approve.

                                                                1. re: TheOffalo

                                                                  Every time I go to Brentwood Country Mart I think the same thing.
                                                                  I miss their croissants.

                                                                2. Marston's in Pasadena blueberry pancakes are my favorites. Years ago I enjoyed Dupar's but have not been there in more than a decade.

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                                                                  1. re: foufou

                                                                    Reminds me: the cornflake-dipped french toast at Marston's is exemplary, though about as dense as plutonium; I haven't finished a full order since my "about to Sierra-Club-hike-16-miles-cross-country" days.

                                                                  2. I really like the pancakes, waffles and French toast at LeRoy's in Monrovia. They do both regular (thin) and Belgian waffles, you can have French toast on any type of bread (DH likes pumpernickel!), and they often have special pancakes, like blueberry or buckwheat. All yummy!

                                                                    1. Square One Dining last week, Brioche French Toast. Consistently good with just syrup but they have funky hot and cold toppings too.

                                                                      1. The Hickory Maple Waffle from The Peach Cafe in Monrovia is great. It has bacon, maple syrup and some cornmeal in it. I especially like the HMW Benedict they serve on weekends. It has a cheese sauce in place of the Hollandaise. Eggs are always cooked perfectly. I can only eat it about once a year since it is so sinful, but damn is it good!

                                                                        1. I vote for our local Omelette and Waffle Shop on Gaffey in San Pedro. My favorite is the Hawaiian Bread French Toast.

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                                                                          1. Where do folks go for good latkes -- Ive had a lot from restaurants/stores the last week, but none as good as homemade...no crispy edges etc... i like em round and tapering off on side, with crispy bits, with applesauce and sour cream or caviar/lox and sour cream/cream cheese...

                                                                            places ive had them recently:

                                                                            labels: long and thick -- decent, a bit heavy and thick (best of lot but definitely B grade)

                                                                            barney greengrass -- little mashed potato balls fried -- nothing like the good ones at BG in NYC

                                                                            nate n als -- "meh"

                                                                            greenblatts -- "meh" -- too much matzo meal and too dense, not crispy

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                                                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                                                thanks servorg -- those photos look good -- too bad not year round at jar...but i wish a spot that wasn't an expensive restaurant for this kind of food too ... i didn't see any delis on that list -not surprising cuz they all pretty much suck at this....will have to try that "got kosher" place

                                                                                1. re: jessejames

                                                                                  Have you tried them at Langer's? I haven't (I'm there for one reason, and one reason only and that doesn't rhyme with P but it's Pastrami never the less) but that might be a good place to test them. How about Canter's?

                                                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                                                    yeah, it's been a while...vaguely remember mediocre...i get the fries to harpoon stray pastrami bits.

                                                                                    1. re: jessejames

                                                                                      And finally Brent's in Northridge would be my last "Deli line of Defense" for latkes...

                                                                                      1. re: Servorg

                                                                                        never been -- meaning to go, but i don't live near there and am relatively close to langers/greenblatts/barney greengrass....is northridge a dining destination?

                                                                                        1. re: jessejames

                                                                                          "...is northridge a dining destination?"

                                                                                          Ha ha...more like "dining desolation" but Brent's is worth the time - or if you have to be out that way for some reason. I tend to go on Sundays when they open at 6AM...but then again I've been up for 4 hours by that point so my stomach thinks it's lunch time.

                                                                                            1. re: kevin

                                                                                              Post biking my wife lends me her S550...

                                                                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                She gots some nice wheels.

                                                                                                Sure beats my pickled jalopy.

                                                                                            2. re: Servorg

                                                                                              Northridge isn't so bad! We can get steamed rice occasionally

                                                                                          1. re: Servorg

                                                                                            The mini latkes at Brent's are probably closest to the latkes I make, so those would be my choice if getting them from somewhere other than my kitchen.

                                                                                            1. re: Jack Flash

                                                                                              thanks guys -- ill have to check it out...servorg, what kind of gig do you have where you're up at 2am?

                                                                                              1. re: jessejames

                                                                                                It's my own idiotic exercise program in which I bicycle in the middle of the night, usually Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays...and Sunday is my long ride of the week.

                                                                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                  well you're beating the traffic and crowds at the restaurants both! vodka and friends keep your sleeping schedule?

                                                                                                  1. re: jessejames

                                                                                                    I really have cut out drinking except for a beer now and again and a few special occasions during the year in which I throw moderation to the winds...

                                                                                            2. re: Servorg

                                                                                              I agree on Brent's Latkes. Nice and cripsy and served all year long. (photo below)

                                                                                              Lenny's in Westwood serves little tiny ones with all their sandwiches.

                                                                                              1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                The Original Pancake House has good potato pancakes in Redondo Beach.

                                                                                                  1. re: jessejames

                                                                                                    In my opinion Brent's is the best all around deli in LA (but Langer's still has the best pastrami).

                                                                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                      i finally got around to hitting up shunjis and boy were you guys right...sounds like this is my ticket to 818.

                                                                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                                                                          i don't often have a reason to head over to the other side of the hill, the valley, 818...but this is it

                                                                                          2. re: jessejames

                                                                                            Why not try your local Chabad ???????

                                                                                            The jelly donuts I had this past week were good.

                                                                                        2. re: jessejames

                                                                                          They're all meh.

                                                                                          Nothing beats crispy homemade.

                                                                                          1. re: jessejames

                                                                                            I stay home for the best latkes ever! My brother makes them the way our father did and his mother and as many generations going back to when potatoes first arrived in Europe. They are exactly as you described--round, tapered on the edge and very crispy. I eat them with a little sugar and lots of sour cream!

                                                                                            1. re: jessejames

                                                                                              honestly, you should head down to the South Bay and go to the Original Pancake House. Their potato pancakes are perfect when you ask for them well done.

                                                                                            2. And what about the pancakes and waffles at Nicks on Pico near LaCienega! We've been going there for decades and they have never changed anything-not only the food but the wallpaper, booths,clientele. There are lots of breakfast combos. first my parents took me, now my children are taking my grandchildren.

                                                                                              1. Langer's Latkes today as an appetizer to my pastrami sandwich. Very good if expensive at 2 for $7 and I believe 4 for $13. Served with a nice sized portion of both the requisite sour cream and applesauce. Holds head down in shame at the fact I didn't take a pic because I forgot it fit this month's DOM. I had pastrami on my mind here people!

                                                                                                1. Went to Nickel Diner again this morning for breakfast and tried their buttermilk pancakes. They were great, fluffy and thick

                                                                                                  1. Just had the Pancake w/ Rock shrimp and Green Onion at Parks BBQ and did enjoy it so. Nice side dish to go with the grilled meats.

                                                                                                    1. I had the French toast at Food this morning (a special). It was possibly the best French toast I've ever had - pretzel challah with sautéed apples, dried cranberries, and orange caramel. The bread had that amazing custardy consistency that a good bread pudding sometimes has, and the rich caramel and apples were the perfect foil. Truly sublime!

                                                                                                      1. I forgot to take a photo, but yesterday I had Doughboys blueberry-flaxseed pancakes for the first time, and they were AWESOME.

                                                                                                        1. So Dommy! and I, taking advantage of P, W & FT month, headed out to a place which has many southern influences. M'Dears is on Western and 77th. Its a pretty little Cafe/kitchen with a big room in the back. Almost everyone we see in there is a regular. They tout their Pancakes, Waffles and Baked goods. The bonus is they serve breakfast all day most days that is until 9pm,

                                                                                                          I had the 3 Wing, Waffle and Egg Combo, the Waffles here are big, lighter than the dense manhole covers which you find at say Roscoe's but don't have the crispy texture of say a belgian waffle. They have decent flavor which work with the wing combo. Previously I had the Sweet potato version ala carte which was a bit denser with the right notes, Eggs ordered Sunny Side up were perfectly cooked and the huge wings were amazing to me. Seasoned with a very thin batter then fried crispy. Dommy! suggested that they needed to salt the meat a little so that the chicken flavor would come out a bit more (a la Pann's).

                                                                                                          Dommy! had the CFS w/grits, eggs and a biscuit. She says The best thing about the CFS was the batter. It was thick, crispy and tasty. However the steak part of the equation is still important and that is why she still prefers the one at Johnny Reb's. The Grits were sublime. They were plain, with a pat of institutional butter. But they were so light and fluffy, that she could have eaten them plain in a bowl. These grits beat the grits at Serving Spoon, so they are her new favorite in LA.

                                                                                                          We waddled out of there very full, but Dommy will be back soon, after a Yoga class down the street, for the mini banana pudding pie.

                                                                                                          M'Dear's Bakery & Bistro
                                                                                                          7717 S Western Ave
                                                                                                          Los Angeles, CA 90047

                                                                                                          (323) 759-2020


                                                                                                          Take care,

                                                                                                          - P

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                                                                                                          1. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                                                                                                            Do they not serve the eggs, wings on top of the waffles?

                                                                                                            1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                              They came out as separate plates. The Waffle came out 1-2 minutes after the Wings and Eggs. The wings were nuclear hot temp though and inedible until at least the waffle came. I didn't mind. it was easy enough to combine.

                                                                                                                1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                                  If you look at their online breakfast menu the special 3 wings with waffle and 2 eggs is $9.95. But if you go to the combos, you can get three wings added to 2 eggs with waffle for a buck less. ???

                                                                                                                  1. re: nosh

                                                                                                                    It was 50¢ less for the combo [$9.45]. The Wings and waffle plate [$9.95] which the picture shows as one plate unlike mine which had things separate. I don't know but they may be more of a difference. When my cholesterol recovers I may have to order other plate to see what that might be.

                                                                                                            2. re: Mattapoisett in LA

                                                                                                              Thanks. I thought you mentioned that joint.

                                                                                                              There's about half dozen other joints within a few blocks along Western.

                                                                                                              Have you tried any of them ?????

                                                                                                              1. Had pretty good ricotta pancakes today at brunch at Hostaria del Piccolo Venice.

                                                                                                                Has anyone tried the ricotta & walnut pancake, apple butter, vanilla crème fraiche at Superb Snack Bar's brunch?

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                                                                                                                1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                  Nope. Not yet. But I will report back shortly.

                                                                                                                2. No mention of Griddle Cafe from anyone?

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                                                                                                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                    i love it -- only weekdays when that possible (not often) due to lines....i don't wait in lines for breakfast...

                                                                                                                      1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                        Lipitor pancakes with a side of Phen-Fen...

                                                                                                                        1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                          i get the banana pancakes (i think bananas sauteed in sugar or something first)...i get the half order which is more than enough....and quite good...no need for whipped cream, caramel and others stuff....huge portions so no need for full order unless you are ready for diabetic coma!

                                                                                                                      2. re: wienermobile

                                                                                                                        i thought the same… i used to like:
                                                                                                                        Recess Time Pancakes - streusel filled and topped buttermilk
                                                                                                                        Teacher's Pet -- with cinnamon cooked apples
                                                                                                                        [French Toast -- Creme de la Creme - cheesecake-y)

                                                                                                                      3. Was at Cecconi's a week or two ago, and eater-in-crime had the ricotta hot cakes… said they were really good.

                                                                                                                        Culina has really good lemon cottage cheese pancakes. Fluffy, ethereal, and with just the right hint of lemon.

                                                                                                                        Oh, and almost forgot about Duplex on Third -- the ricotta pancakes also very nice!

                                                                                                                        1. The Griddle in Hollywood - everything is good although you will be full the rest of the day as portions are quite large.
                                                                                                                          Amazing French Toast.
                                                                                                                          Pumpkin Pancakes, Blueberry Pancakes and Oatmeal Pancakes (called sow your oats) are all fantastic.

                                                                                                                          Emle's in Northridge has incredible French Toast. Huge portion with fried dough on top that tastes like a beignet.
                                                                                                                          Closest place to a diner I have found. Huge menu and mostly all good. Large dinner menu and breakfast all day.

                                                                                                                          Uncle Bill's in Manhattan Beach has great pancakes as well as homemade muffins.

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                                                                                                                          1. re: flowergirl

                                                                                                                            Don't know how I missed Emle's http://emlesrestaurant.com/ for all these years but better late than never. Thanks for the heads up. I plan on making it over some weekend to try the breakfast. Have you ever had their "stuffed" French toast?

                                                                                                                            1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                              I have not had the stuffed french toast. The regular French Toast is quite filling and rich. Fun to share along with other menu items.

                                                                                                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                You biking there take plenty of water, or rather vodka to keep hydrated. :)

                                                                                                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                  They make great savory crepe dishes, too.

                                                                                                                              2. Damn, the first month that I actually did perform my requirements.

                                                                                                                                Pumpkin pancakes at the Original Pancake House. Not bad, not great, I'm not a pancake fan as you all know, or maybe not.

                                                                                                                                But I just wish they would have told me that it's dusted with loads of cinnamon.

                                                                                                                                The fresh whipped cream on the side was some of the best I have tried.

                                                                                                                                The scrambled eggs and breakfast potatoes, marginally better than crappy hash browns, were just merely in a word: pedestrian.

                                                                                                                                1. My husband is always on the lookout for great French toast. The critical issue is that the bread be custardy on the inside. Most French toasts fail the custard test, notably Farm Shop. Looks beautiful adorned with berries and bread is very thick challah. That dish is super dry on the inside.
                                                                                                                                  Bouchon gets it right. Bread not too thick, custardy interior and delicious. Best in the world is the Pain Perdu at the Park Hyatt Vendome, Paris. Bouchon is a worthy contender for second place.

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                                                                                                                                  1. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                                    This is what made the old Du-Par's French toast so good. Because they removed the (dense, dry) crust from the bread prior to introducing it to the batter, it absorbed much more and resulted in a much smoother, more custard-y product. Just one of the many shortcuts the Naylor family undertook when they bought the name.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: Jack Flash

                                                                                                                                      still my favorite plain pancakes tho.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: jessejames

                                                                                                                                        Eh. Also only a shadow of their former selves. It makes me too sad.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: Jack Flash

                                                                                                                                          isnt there a split of opinion as to whether or not the recipe has actually changed? do u go to the one at farmers market?

                                                                                                                                          1. re: jessejames

                                                                                                                                            My opinion is that the recipe has been changed. I've eaten those pancakes for many years and the last time I ate there, in October, they were not the same!

                                                                                                                                            1. re: jessejames

                                                                                                                                              I suppose there could be a split of opinion about everything. But I spent 30+ years eating those hotcakes, and I immediately found them to be different once the Naylors took over. The ones at the Farmers Market branch seem closer to the original, but both remain too fluffy and not chewy enough.

                                                                                                                                              I've had them several times in the years since the Naylors took over, hoping that they would figure out what they were doing wrong (assuming they didn't intentionally change them, as they've made several public proclamations that they would not change the hotcakes at all; I don't want to accuse them of purposely lying). I have been disappointed every single time.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: Jack Flash

                                                                                                                                                Several years ago, I spent some time with a member of the Naylor family..

                                                                                                                                                His attitude towards the people whose patronage of his family's restaurants built the business and wealth he inherited was condescending, dismissive and contemptuous.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: Gypsy Jan

                                                                                                                                                  And now we see where that sobriquet "tiny" must have come from...their I.Q.

                                                                                                                                      2. re: maudies5

                                                                                                                                        I recommend Food's French Toast (see review upthread). It definitely meets the custard test!

                                                                                                                                        1. re: aching

                                                                                                                                          Just read your review. That French toast looks fantastic. Will definitely try. Thanks

                                                                                                                                      3. Believe it or not - the latkes at the Westside Pavillion Nordstrom are as close to homemade as I have found in any restaurant. I asked for them well done and they came out thin , crispy and delicious.

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                                                                                                                                        1. re: flowergirl

                                                                                                                                          On the menu year round at Pvaillon's Nordstrom ?????

                                                                                                                                          1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                            Yes and they are truly delicious. Make sure to ask for them well done - if you like crispy latkes.

                                                                                                                                        2. Potato pancakes at Barney Greengrass. More like fritters actually. Should be thinner and more crispy. They are delicious though.

                                                                                                                                          Gratuitous shot of smoked sturgeon and whitefish combo with soft scrambled eggs and bagel.

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                                                                                                                                          1. re: Porthos

                                                                                                                                            What, no wine? Champagne would have been nice.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: JAB

                                                                                                                                              Who said there wasn't wine? ;)

                                                                                                                                              1. re: Porthos

                                                                                                                                                I figured as much. Curious what you paired?

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Porthos

                                                                                                                                                    Nice, champagne & smoked fish is my favorite for brunch.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: JAB

                                                                                                                                                      That's a 65 dollar breakfast right there even without the wine.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                        Champagne taste, beer budget.

                                                                                                                                                    2. re: Porthos

                                                                                                                                                      champagne, the most underrated food wine ever.

                                                                                                                                              2. re: Porthos

                                                                                                                                                had the potato pancakes at BG in NYC -- much better, still had some of that shredded feel but were somewhat spoonshaped too...always thought our BG could do better on the latkes. nevertheless, a fine breakfast! i go for the lox and the sable usually...champagne, why not!

                                                                                                                                              3. many good pancakes on here and a few I need to try. but surprised nobody has mentioned axe in venice which has a pretty fantastic one.

                                                                                                                                                1. Moscow Deli Costa Mesa

                                                                                                                                                  -Zrazy (potato pancakes). One stuffed with chicken one with mushrooms. These were pre-made and reheated but not fried. Good but would probably be better if you took them home and fried them until crispy yourself.

                                                                                                                                                  -Gratuitous shot of delicious Pelmeni and spicy meat soup (like the Borscht better).

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                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Porthos

                                                                                                                                                    What's the sauce on the zrazy? Sour cream?

                                                                                                                                                    I hope they were not microwaved ...

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                                                                      Yep. Sour cream. And they may well have been. No doubt would be so awesome fried in fat until crispy though....

                                                                                                                                                  2. Bee's House of Breakfast on Adams. Big Buttermilk Pancakes. It was decent.

                                                                                                                                                    1. Original House of Pancakes in Redondo Beach. Great pancakes. Always a wait. :(

                                                                                                                                                      1. oh, and the multigrain banana pancakes at Swingers (two locations). http://swingersdiner.com/menu.php

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                                                                                                                                                        1. re: hpsquared

                                                                                                                                                          eeeewwwwww, swingers…. never again.

                                                                                                                                                          absolutely terrible.

                                                                                                                                                          sorry, it's just my two cents.

                                                                                                                                                          but that's one of the no-no restaurants after a few exceptionally horrible experiences there.

                                                                                                                                                          sorry i couldn't say anything nice about it.