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Miri1 Nov 28, 2013 11:08 PM

Its a longshot, I know, but thinking of staying in Boro Park for Pesach and just wondering uf such a thing exists? Perhaps at Youbg Israel Beth El? Maybe in a restaurant?

Barring that, what's a good program for a single woman who s a vegetarian? Prefer NY but willing to consider anything.

Thanks! Gotta start planning,,,:)

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    cappucino RE: Miri1 Nov 29, 2013 05:02 AM

    I don't know the answer to your question, but I do know that Boro Park, Community Seder, Single Woman and Vegetarian do not go together. I hope you find a great place to spend Pesach with other people like yourself or it will be a looong holiday. I would begin by looking on the Chabad website for community Sedarim in the Metro Area. Many Chabad events accommodate vegetarians as their guest list will often include newly Orthodox or non-Orthodox Jews who are more likely to be vegetarian than your average Brooklynite. Chabad in Manhattan? Park Slope? In addition to Chabad, I would try the Jewish Enrichment Center in Manhattan or the Manhattan Jewish Experience, both active singles-oriented programs run by engaging leaders with many events around holiday time. Happy Chanukah.

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      magiesmom RE: Miri1 Nov 30, 2013 02:35 PM

      Have you thought about Isabella Freedman?
      https://isabellafreedman.org/passover
      I believe they accommodate vegetarians

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        Miri1 RE: magiesmom Nov 30, 2013 09:10 PM

        Never heard of it. Looks interesting! Thanks for the link!

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          magiesmom RE: Miri1 Dec 1, 2013 08:20 AM

          It is an amazing place.
          I am going for the winter retreat.

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            susiejane RE: magiesmom Dec 1, 2013 08:22 AM

            I had thought about suggesting it as well but was not sure if they really had singles in their Pesach crowd.

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              GilaB RE: susiejane Dec 1, 2013 09:05 AM

              I have never been to Isabella Friedman, but friends who have gone to various of their programs have described the crowd as a mix of singles, couples, and families of all ages. I wouldn't go if you are looking specifically for a singles-oriented program, but it doesn't sound like the OP wants that, just somewhere that is singles-friendly.

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                susiejane RE: GilaB Dec 1, 2013 09:33 AM

                I think that Pesach might get a different mix, but I really do not know. I would love to go myself sometime but never seem to find an appealing program at a time that i s suitable for us.

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                  avitrek RE: GilaB Dec 1, 2013 12:26 PM

                  I would guess Pesach would be mixed too, but I have no first hand experience. My bigger concern would be the religious level of the crowd if the OP's first thought was staying in Boro Park. I'm sure the kashrut will be fine, and there will be orthodox minyanim, but I would guess the majority of the crowd will not be orthodox and a large portion may not be shomer shabbat. If the OP is fine with that, then the program should work, but she shouldn't expect a typical frum crowd.

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                    Miri1 RE: avitrek Dec 1, 2013 01:27 PM

                    So let me clarify what I'm looking for in a program, and also the reason I specifed Boro Park. I'm modern orthodox, tend to blend easily into just about any crowd because I like to keepto myself and prefer to people watch rather than constantly mingle. So, definitely not seeking a reguar singles program. Those are not my style. I just want a place To be comfortabke in. Someplace I don't have to worry that I'm being judged because I wore the same thing twice or because my mde f dress does nit meet teir standards.

                    As to why I mentione Boro Park- convenience. Pkenty of shoppng, a hotel where I can prepare my own food if I want, easily accessible kosher food and takeout, reasobably central to NYC...

                    Thanks for all suggestions!

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                      susiejane RE: Miri1 Dec 1, 2013 01:46 PM

                      then you might enjoy Isabella
                      Freedman. much more casual than the hotels, good food ,but it is a whole week with all the meals . If it fits your needs and budget, it just might work out for you. not sure if they will have more than one minyan. I do know a MO senior couple that went for Pesach 2 or 3 years ago. I do not know if any of their family members joined them, possibly not as they are scattered. I can ask them about the experience if you like.

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                        magiesmom RE: Miri1 Dec 1, 2013 01:47 PM

                        The staff is very forthcoming and could give you a good sense.
                        Have no idea if it would be right for you, but just something to explore.
                        I am not Orthodox but certainly there have been many Modern Orthodox at several of the programs I have been to.

                        One does need to be comfortable with very out gay Jews, as there is usually a big presence as they are very welcoming.

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                    zsero RE: susiejane Dec 3, 2013 08:08 AM

                    Here's the scoop on Isabella Friedman, from a regular Pesach guest:
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                    It is a mixed crowd. Mostly shomer Shabbos, maybe 70%. It was an elderly crowd for a long time though that is shifting. There are young couples, some singles, families with kids of all school ages.

                    The program is orthodox and shomer Shabbos. The rabbi is modern orthodox, Neil Fleischman. The kitchen is shomer Shabbos, though it is not cholov yisroel, and they wet their matza. I believe cholov yisroel is available for those that want it. They use a lot of quinoa, don't know where you hold with that.

                    The facility is not shomer Shabbos, as in they shuttle seniors and those in need around in golf carts on Shabbos and yom tov. Don't know what happens in the office. But the lights are on and not turned off, no microphones or activities which are not Shabbosdik. They have jews and non-jews on staff. Apart from the golf carts, you wouldn't know that it is not completely shomer Shabbos. There is a kosher eruv which is checked and maintained weekly.

                    Unlike other programs at Isabella Freedman, pesach is considered orthodox and specifically advertised as such.

                    Guests are allowed to bring in food to the following extent: in their private rooms, whatever they would like; in the common areas, it must be kosher for pesach and approved by one of the on-site mashgiachs.

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