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Nov 24, 2013 02:26 PM

Any good smoked salmon in/near Greenwich Village?

With Citarella apparently giving up on smoked salmon, is there anyone still slicing quality smoked salmon (and also carrying other quality smoked fish) in or near the Village? Went to Lobster Place in Chelsea Market today only to find that everything they have is pre-sliced.

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  1. Really??
    Russ and Daughters on E Houston St. It's just about the best in the city. It's not in Greenwich Village but oh so close!

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      1. re: pbjluver

        Well... I could argue that Zabar's is the best, but that would be nitpicking.

        1. re: pbjluver

          Worth the actually not very far from the west village schlep.

          1. re: Ttrockwood

            I buy some almost every week, so I was hoping for some place closer than Russ & Daughters, and with shorter lines, but your replies are confirming what I suspected. Looks like I'll be trekking down there. Citarella GV stills sells smoked salmon, but they now carry just two varieties, which are shoved into a corner of the salumeria dep't. There seems to be one person on each shift who is the designated slicer, and you can easily spend 10 mins just waiting for that person to free up. Until recently, they were still doing a nice job of slicing and trimming, but, based on two recent visits, that too has gone out the window. Also, the Scotch they are selling now seems to me drier and saltier than what they used to have. Citarella appears to be offering this product only grudgingly. Not willing to pay $40 a pound if they're not serious about the presentation and quality.

            1. re: RueduVertbois

              If you're near the 1/3 subway line zabars is always worth the trip, and close to the station on uws but try to go on a weekday to avoid the madness- same with russ and daughters this time of year....
              I'm wondering if RnD would be able to cut and then vacuum seal your order- that way you keep some sealed and make fewer trips there...

      2. Agata & Valentina on University has several types, and all are less expensive than Citarella.

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        1. re: penthouse pup

          Penthouse pup,

          Thanks! I went to their website, and this looks like it might be a winner. Can't wait to check it out, not the least for sentiment's sake, since there's a Balducci involved. I go back to the original produce market on Greenwich Avenue.

          1. re: penthouse pup

            Yes! They have a great selection.

            I'm also loving everything at Zucker's in Tribeca/Murray Hill. They have the pastrami smoked salmon from David Burke which is my new favorite.

            1. re: penthouse pup

              penthouse pup, thanks! You're spot on. Went to A&V on Wednesday and was very pleased with the selection, the slicing/trimming, and the generous "tastes" that the courteous and friendly staff was eager to offer. Bought a few other items to test head-to-head against Citarella. Based solely on looking around, I'd say Citarella has better produce, but, I buy most of my produce at a green market, and now that I have to go to A&V for the salmon, I'll be trying to kill as many birds as possible with that stone. Thanks, again.

              1. re: RueduVertbois

                They often put the Gaspe on sale, and the quality is very good. Their on-the-bone roast turkey is also worth trying. Agree that the people behind the counter are courteous.

            2. Nordic Preserves in Essex Market makes a few good in-house varieties. They have five or six different hot and cold-smoked salmons plus a few different styles of gravlax and a number of other fish as well. Worth checking out. R&D is still the gold standard, of course, but NP provides something different, good quality house-cured stuff, nothing prepackaged.

              1. I would argue that almost every place gets there salmon from the same exact place. Acme.

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                1. re: Daniel76

                  You "would argue" that? Do you think it's a fact? Any evidence? The Acme website mostly has different kinds of Nova (or "Novie," as I heard it called growing up). I don't see any indication that they sell Scotch, Norwegian, Irish, Western, Baltic, or any other variety that one can find at Russ and Daughters or Agata and Valentina, or previously at Citarella, or, I'd guess, at Zabar's. Acme has a wholesale trade, and maybe they carry additional items not on their retail website, but I don't see any indication of that. In any case, I would not be so surprised to find that retailers tend to rely on a limited number of wholesale purveyors who import from a limited number of smokehouses, but, even so, how the a retailer handles (and prices) smoked salmon matters. Poorly sliced and trimmed fish at $30 to $40 a pound is depressing.

                    1. re: Daniel76

                      Sorry Daniel but Citarella does not source its Scottish salmon from Acme. Nor does Agata and Valentina source any of their smoked salmon from Acme. How do I know? Just read the labels on the unopened fish that are visible once the handler lifts one to be cut.(Samaki from Port Jervis supplies A&V's Gaspe. Banner from Brooklyn smokes A&V's "house" salmon. Catsmo from upstate imports LOCH KAIRN FARMS for Citarella.)

                      1. re: penthouse pup

                        Also, not all Acme is the same -- what you can buy at Gristides is not the same product as you can buy at higher end shops.