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KitchenAid Mixers/France

Hello,

Has anyone brought a Kitchenaid mixer over to France and had any problems with the voltage/watts being too high for the electrical outlets. I have a new model (Pro 6500) and it's 1 horsepower. I looked at some of the French culinary appliance stores online and they aren't selling it yet. I'm unsure if it's wise to take it over or not. I'm trying to avoid buying a new one there because they're more expensive (at least the kitchenaids are).

Thanks in advance for sharing your mixer experience :)

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    1. re: PBSF

      When I originally set up house in Paris I schlepped over two pretty big transformers and ran a lot of eqpt off them (and still do).
      Then, early 1990's, prices in Paris were three times those in Manhattan.
      Now prices, while not equal, are more reasonable and when I must replace eqpt I find myself factoring in the cost to my back and a taxi vs RER and convenience and have begun a switchover. For instance, this year, a Canon 3in1 printer I got at Darty was not much more than in the US online and an electric wine opener a couple of euros.
      BTW, I do not agree with the Kitchenaid spokesperson that using a transformer is inferior; I've never had a problem.

      1. re: John Talbott

        Thank you John. I appreciate the response :)

        1. re: John Talbott

          I agree, John -- I ran my big 6-quart Professional model off of one of those great big transformers for 5 years and never had a problem.

          Runs just fine now that it's back home on 110v, too.

      2. How much does it cost in France?

        I would like to order it from USA as the price in Greece is about 800 usd for the small and 1500 usd for the big one.

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        1. re: Giannis

          The KitchenAids in France are upwards of 450 euro. In the U.S we can find them for around $275 now

          1. re: marinmomma

            I guess I've been lucky in what's gone bad.

            1. re: marinmomma

              You can generally buy appliances like this for 20-40% below list price in Germany. A little searching around on the web, and you can say, visit a Christmas market in western Germany, and buy your KitchenAid, for less than you'd pay in France.

              There are supposed to be good deals in Spain and Portugal, too, if that's a closer border.

          2. A timely topic as we are moving to Croatia and really, really want my KA Pro and Vitamix there. But we may end up buying in Italy instead. Unsure at this stage.

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            1. re: chefathome

              if you're packing a container anyway, take it (and a big-ass transformer).

              Mine made the move over, and made the move back -- the bar is pretty high to justify putting it in that big metal box.

            2. There are two problems with running a North American motor on the French electrical grid: the voltage, and the frequency. You can use a step-down transformer to create an appropriate voltage (ie, 110V). However, you will still be running a motor intended for 60Hz AC on a 50Hz source. That will cause it to wear faster, and for smaller motors will spell death after a year or two or five. A horsepower Kitchenaid should be able to survive that, but it will wear faster.

              If you're moving to France permanently, I recommend just buying a European model. If you're only visiting for a few years, then go ahead and get a transformer, and read your guarantee carefully. You may not want to tell KA that you were using it on a European grid, if you need it serviced.

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              1. re: tmso

                Nope.

                ALL of my kitchen appliances ran just fine, and continue to do so.

                Most appliances are rates 50-60Hz, so not an issue.

                The only thing that died was a small hand mixer.....but the poor thing was more than 20 years old and was a cheapo to begin with, so it's entirely possible it just died a natural death not attributable to electricity.

                1. re: sunshine842

                  Good point about 50/60Hz motors. If the KA says that on it, than there's no problem at all.

              2. At a higher voltage in Europe the machine will draw less current (amps). A 750 watt (1 horsepower) machine draws 6.9 amps in the US but only 3.2 amps at 230 volts in Europe.

                Toasters and most kettles and coffee makers are higher wattage and so use much more power. The mixer may be powerful but won't strain a French domestic power supply - but do get a transformer - without one it will run very quickly for a very short time then stop forever.

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                1. re: PhilD

                  good add-on-- things that heat up don't run well on a transformer -- so those appliances need to just be replaced, period.