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What are 3 foods you tried that you think are overrated..And 3 new things you tried that you love?

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chompie Nov 19, 2013 09:26 AM

Tried and found overrated:
Red Velvet Cake
Smoked Paprika
Balsamic Vinegar
Biscoff spread

Tried and loved:
Nutella
Mini M&Ms
Honeybell orange

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  1. tcamp RE: chompie Nov 19, 2013 10:14 AM

    Tried and found overrated:
    Nutella
    Homemade marshmallows
    $20 'handcrafted' cocktails

    Tried and loved:
    locally-made hard cider
    Turnip pickles
    White balsamic vinegar

    Can't believe chompie doesn't like:
    Smoked paprika

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      chompie RE: tcamp Nov 19, 2013 10:19 AM

      maybe cuz it was from TJs? I love paprika and love smoke and to be honest, just tasted it out of the bottle and it was weird, neither like paprika or smoke. Maybe you have to actually cook it? whats the difference in white and brown balsamic flavor?

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        Ttrockwood RE: chompie Nov 19, 2013 02:31 PM

        Look for spanish pimenton- the smoked paprika comes either "sweet" or "hot" with a very very mild smoke flavor. Great tossed with cubed potatoes and olive oil and roasted.
        Not yummy raw.....

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        Pookipichu RE: tcamp Jan 8, 2014 09:15 AM

        I wonder if there's anywhere in the US to get real marshmallows made from marshmallow sap as opposed to gelatin corn syrup puffs that are called marshmallows.

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        laliz RE: chompie Nov 19, 2013 10:51 AM

        overrated:
        Chipotle ANYthing
        Siracha
        Brussel Sprouts

        Tried and loved
        Unsweetened plain greek yogurt
        The combination of beets and blue cheese
        Avgolemono (Greek lemon soup)

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          BuildingMyBento RE: laliz Nov 19, 2013 03:11 PM

          I didn't start eating bleu cheese until I had it with beets.

          Ehh, and then I went to Anchor Bar (in Buffalo) the next year for wings.

          Now, I have no bone to pick with bleu cheese.

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            chompie RE: laliz Nov 19, 2013 03:52 PM

            taliz, you just made me and hubby cheer outloud! We thought we were in a secret society of outcasts who don't even want to try chipotle and siracha!

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              fldhkybnva RE: laliz Nov 20, 2013 11:01 AM

              I love unsweetened plain greek yogurt. I thought I was the only one.

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                biondanonima RE: fldhkybnva Nov 20, 2013 12:41 PM

                I love it too. It's like eating sour cream. YUM!

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                ratgirlagogo RE: laliz Nov 22, 2013 12:47 PM

                I'm a hot sauce fiend and sriracha is one of my least favorites - very one dimensional. It might be my absolute least favorite now that it's turned into such a thing.

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                rainey RE: chompie Nov 19, 2013 02:38 PM

                I'll have to think more to come up with a complete answer but these things are beyond outrageously good. http://www.joepastry.com/2013/crotins...

                I know. They're chocolate. How bad can they be? And they're from Nancy Silverton originally. What would you expect? But forget all that. Just bake some and see!

                1. melpy RE: chompie Nov 19, 2013 05:08 PM

                  Biscoff, definitely overrated.

                  1. Ttrockwood RE: chompie Nov 19, 2013 05:53 PM

                    Tried and found overrated:

                    -laudree macarons (i love macarons but there were nearly the same as others i've had)
                    - those self serve frozen yogurt places (terrible and expensive!)
                    - za'atar

                    Tried and loved:

                    - homemade almond milk
                    - ligonberry jam
                    - sweet potato peanut african stew

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                      globocity RE: Ttrockwood Nov 23, 2013 07:42 PM

                      Agreed about Laudrée being overrated. The prices and lines do not justify the product.

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                      Dirtywextraolives RE: chompie Nov 19, 2013 07:20 PM

                      Overrated :
                      Grass fed beef
                      Starbucks coffee
                      Salmon (though I eat it cuz I know it's good for me, I don't really like it....)

                      Tried & loved:
                      Wagyu beef
                      Foie Gras (my favorite thing in the world to eat)
                      Kimchee

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                        globocity RE: Dirtywextraolives Nov 23, 2013 07:44 PM

                        Do people highly rate Starbucks coffee?

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                          AlexRast RE: Dirtywextraolives Jan 9, 2014 06:47 PM

                          I get the feeling that both on the grass fed beef and on salmon you didn't get top-quality. Many things are often pronounced "overrated" because people don't realise that foods are rarely good *as a category* but rather with respect to *the specific instance sampled*. That may not be the case here but there is a strong possibility that it is.

                          Thus for me:

                          Overrated:
                          Wagyu beef from a supplier in Seattle.
                          Grass-fed beef from a restaurant in Brisbane.
                          Foie gras from a restaurant in a small town outside Paris.
                          Salmon (even wild!) from Marks & Spencer in Manchester.
                          Starbucks coffee from most places today.

                          Tried and loved
                          Grass-fed beef from a farm near Seattle.
                          Wagyu beef from a restaurant in Brisbane.
                          Foie gras from a (top) restaurant in Barcelona.
                          Wild Scottish salmon from Out of the Blue fishmongers in Manchester.
                          Starbucks coffee from the top shop in Seattle during the early 1990's.

                          (Can't comment on Kimchee though)

                          It all comes down to the basic quality of the particular item - for example I find that people are frequently unimpressed by dark chocolate (which they find bitter and harsh) because their impressions are limited to poor-quality types like Lindt or bulk Callebaut, and when you give them a really first-rate Michel Cluizel or Domori or Pacari or whatever they have what amounts to a religious experience when they realise that even 100% dark chocolate need not necessarily be bitter.

                          From your list I get the impression you like fattiness. Although perhaps your salmon dislike may be genuine, there is at least the possibility it's because you've had mostly poor farmed fish - in which case you owe it to yourself to try a wild Yukon River salmon belly - or alternatively in Europe a Spey River - the Yukon is probably the fattiest salmon in the world and the Spey is similarly legendary.

                          It should also be noted that quite often the difference between a potential "overrated" and "Tried and loved" comes down to price - and bizarrely this is a sword which cuts both ways.

                          On the one hand, many people are underwhelmed after paying what they thought was a high price for something that in fact was perhaps only slightly better than commodity level, while at the same time being delighted by something that was an incredible bargain, even if again the quality was only slightly better than commodity level.

                          On the other, as a general rule you really do get what you pay for - and the cost of *real* quality is typically radically much higher than what a lot of people think it ought to be. Take for example, chocolate. People used to paying 50p or less than $1 for a chocolate bar may balk at paying £2.00/$3.00 for another bar, not realising that at that price point you're still not talking about something radically much better. No, the price must be more in the range of £5.00/$8.00 per bar before quality becomes consistently excellent (although of course there are exceptions you really need to know your stuff to be able to find cheaper ones that are better - a random purchase is likely to be mediocre below that price) - and many, having been burned by a disappointing experience at the mid-range price point, aren't even going to go near the more expensive chocolate, figuring it's just even more money thrown into the bin.

                          Back to the original topic, I'll add:

                          Overrated:
                          Sourdough from everywhere (except Acme Bread in SF)
                          Hamburgers at almost any restaurant (exception: BurgerJoint in NYC and London)
                          Cream cheese frosting (one of the few things that I've found to be categorically disappointing)

                          Tried and loved:
                          Pane Toscana (when it's the genuine article, at least)
                          Wurst (hot dogs) and chips (fries) from Witty's in Berlin
                          Dulce de leche (particularly in alfajores).

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                          kagemusha49 RE: chompie Nov 20, 2013 11:19 AM

                          Overrated
                          Grits
                          King crab legs
                          Hershey's chocolate

                          Loved
                          Monkfish liver (ankimo)
                          Pho with tripe
                          Jerusalem artichokes

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                            ferret RE: kagemusha49 Nov 20, 2013 11:45 AM

                            Grits are an abomination. Cheese grits are awesome.

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                              chompie RE: kagemusha49 Nov 20, 2013 11:04 PM

                              yea, especially after learning that Hershey's chocolate is made with sour milk...

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                                kagemusha49 RE: chompie Nov 20, 2013 11:36 PM

                                Doesn't surprise me - it kinda tastes of sour milk.

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                                Ttrockwood RE: kagemusha49 Nov 23, 2013 07:09 PM

                                I didn't realize hershey's was still, "rated".....
                                (Assuming you refer to the regular milk choco bar)

                              3. NonnieMuss RE: chompie Nov 20, 2013 11:27 AM

                                Overrated:
                                Greek yogurt
                                Homemade ketchup
                                Escargot

                                Tried and loved:
                                Beef tartare
                                Pig cheeks
                                Goat cheese

                                Though it must be said that good beef tartare is hard to find. I had it for the first time and it blew me away. Immediately ordered it the next time I saw it on a menu and it was pretty gross.

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                                  DowntownJosie RE: NonnieMuss Nov 22, 2013 12:48 PM

                                  Beef cheeks are delicious as well and very easy to cook. I also hear that fish cheeks are good as well.

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                                    chefathome RE: DowntownJosie Nov 22, 2013 12:55 PM

                                    Fish cheeks are delectable in my opinion.

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                                    sisterfunkhaus RE: NonnieMuss Jan 12, 2014 04:38 PM

                                    I love escargot. I had it recently cooked in a cream sauce with tarragon, and it was fantastic. Tastes a lot like mushrooms to me, which I love.

                                  3. mtlcowgirl RE: chompie Nov 23, 2013 01:55 PM

                                    Overrated: Beef Wellington. The crust is de trop, IMO. Would definitely try again: A well made corn pudding.

                                    1. globocity RE: chompie Nov 23, 2013 07:51 PM

                                      Tried & overrated
                                      Michelada
                                      Jidori chicken
                                      Tofu

                                      Tried & loved
                                      Whiskey
                                      Fried brussel sprouts with Sriarcha
                                      New Haven style pizza

                                      1. Kholvaitar RE: chompie Jan 8, 2014 05:21 AM

                                        Overrated:

                                        Mussels
                                        Subway Sandwiches
                                        Pumpkin Seeds

                                        Tried and loved:

                                        Wasabi Edamame
                                        Steel Cut Oats
                                        Asbach Uralt

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                                          NanaMoussecurry RE: Kholvaitar Jan 9, 2014 02:05 PM

                                          Wondering in what magical place are Subway sandwiches highly rated...

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                                            ferret RE: NanaMoussecurry Jan 9, 2014 02:28 PM

                                            I would guess "at Subway" but I have no factual support for that.

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                                              nothingswrong RE: NanaMoussecurry Jan 10, 2014 02:07 PM

                                              Considering how busy they are, apparently some people consider them great.

                                              I haven't eaten Subway in YEARS but I used to get weird cravings for it. I wouldn't consider it culinary excellency by any means.

                                              Was reading an article last year about how much profit Subway franchises make and was astounded. I think because they are one of the only national chain "fast food" places that won't make you die from diabetes... for many people, it's simply the only option when they're at work and on the go. I looked into buying a franchise here in LA and still may at some point.

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                                                sisterfunkhaus RE: nothingswrong Jan 12, 2014 04:39 PM

                                                I crave the Italian one with olives and lots of mayo on occasion. They aren't great sandwiches, but I crave what I crave.

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                                                sisterfunkhaus RE: NanaMoussecurry Jan 12, 2014 04:38 PM

                                                It's the number one fast food chain, so lots of people I am guessing.

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                                              bugablue13 RE: chompie Jan 8, 2014 06:11 AM

                                              Great thread. I'm a little nervous to admit my TAFO foods. Some will think it's a sacrilege.

                                              TAFO:
                                              Dinic's roast pork sandwich (sorry Philly)
                                              FroYo self-serve
                                              Almond butter

                                              TAL:
                                              Kimchee
                                              Han Dynasty's Dan Dan Noodles (O.M.G.)
                                              Stuffing waffles (Serious Eats recipe)

                                              1. Sandwich_Sister RE: chompie Jan 8, 2014 07:41 AM

                                                Tried and found overrated:
                                                Truffle Fries
                                                Uni
                                                Smoked Beers
                                                Pop Tarts
                                                Sweet Potato Fries

                                                Tried and loved
                                                Lamb Vindaloo
                                                Pho with Tendon and Tripe
                                                Vietnamese Pork Sausage Banh Mi
                                                Pavlova
                                                Chorizo injected Chicken Wings
                                                Indian Pale Ales

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                                                  ferret RE: Sandwich_Sister Jan 8, 2014 11:49 AM

                                                  How can anyone possibly find PopTarts to be overrated

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                                                    Sandwich_Sister RE: ferret Jan 8, 2014 12:54 PM

                                                    Hahaha, Everyone says that but to me they are gross. I've never liked them.

                                                    The crust is gluey and just seems to sit in my mouth, like I can't even get it out even after a few dozen drinks.

                                                    The glaze is sweet but it just doesn't help and the filling always has a fake taste to it. Like strawberry is just not strawberry. LOL

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                                                    TroyTempest RE: Sandwich_Sister Jan 13, 2014 09:48 AM

                                                    +1 on the sweet potato fries.
                                                    they never reach the desired crispiness level to me

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                                                      Sandwich_Sister RE: TroyTempest Jan 13, 2014 10:04 AM

                                                      I agree with that. Also Sweet potato tots are gross because they never get crispy its like mush in your mouth.

                                                  3. LotusRapper RE: chompie Jan 8, 2014 12:06 PM

                                                    Overrated:
                                                    Mini cupcakes
                                                    Truffles (& truffle oil)
                                                    Aburi sushi

                                                    Tried & loved:
                                                    Pretty much everything else I've eaten and like in my life ......

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                                                      nothingswrong RE: LotusRapper Jan 10, 2014 02:11 PM

                                                      I have to say, I think cupcakes in general are overrated what with all the "gourmet" cupcake shops in recent years. My first Sprinkles cupcake in Beverly Hills was f*cking delicious but no more interesting to me than a slice of cake would have been.

                                                      But mini cupcakes are so much easier to eat, and have a perfect cake-to-frosting ratio IMO.

                                                      Not that I ever have the patience to make them mini, nor do I make cupcakes more than once a year. Adults tend to want cakes for their birthdays.

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                                                      redips RE: chompie Jan 8, 2014 12:14 PM

                                                      Overrated:
                                                      - Cronuts
                                                      - Chocolate covered Potato Chips
                                                      - Tandori Chicken (always too dry)
                                                      - Hoppy Beers

                                                      Underrated
                                                      - Kale Sprouts
                                                      - Sea salt on quality chocolate
                                                      - Polish beer
                                                      - The little oak staves that you can buy to age your cocktails at home. What a surprise.

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                                                        Sandwich_Sister RE: redips Jan 8, 2014 12:55 PM

                                                        I would have put cronuts on my list although I have never had one but I think if I had I would think, "What's the hype, I don't get it"

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                                                          redips RE: Sandwich_Sister Jan 8, 2014 01:43 PM

                                                          What's funny about Cronuts is that when I was growing up in upstate New York, Price Chopper had (and still does) fried and glazed croissants in their donut section ($.79 I think). Similar concept to the famed cronut (or any of the knockoffs around the country), sans the custard, but much better.

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                                                            LotusRapper RE: redips Jan 8, 2014 03:35 PM

                                                            I recall a local bakery here years ago made these croissant "balls" (round, about 4" diameter), sugar-glazed plus chocolate-drizzled. While too sweet for my taste, I thought the concept of a non-crescent croissant is cool.

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                                                              nothingswrong RE: redips Jan 10, 2014 02:12 PM

                                                              That's interesting. I have been wondering how nobody ever thought to deep-fry laminated pastry dough before.

                                                              I also haven't had a cronut, though I would totally try one if presented to me. However I keep thinking they look much better without the custard.

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                                                                BuildingMyBento RE: redips Jan 12, 2014 05:57 PM

                                                                The one "cronut-esque" thing I tried was from a Jakarta Carrefour. Whatever.

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                                                              nothingswrong RE: redips Jan 10, 2014 02:15 PM

                                                              Good Tandoori chicken is AMAZING.

                                                              My dad is 1/2 Indian and we grew up eating Indian food fairly often (not in the house, but going out to eat).

                                                              There was one tiny hole in the wall we frequented that made the absolute best Tandoori chicken I've ever had. It was probably my favorite chicken as a kid, aside from the deep-fried chicken strips from Hamburger Hamlet (RIP) with a side of ranch dressing.

                                                              The Tandoori was succulent, moist, bright reddish-orange, and so flavorful. I was a tiny and picky child who ate like a bird, but I'd tear into that stuff with both hands. The edges of the meat were all charred from the high heat grilling. Mmm.....

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                                                                redips RE: nothingswrong Jan 10, 2014 03:01 PM

                                                                Hmmm... I need to try that chicken! :)

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                                                                  LotusRapper RE: nothingswrong Jan 10, 2014 05:05 PM

                                                                  I loooove tandoori chicken with good naan.

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                                                                    nothingswrong RE: LotusRapper Jan 10, 2014 05:15 PM

                                                                    I always had a plate of the chicken, garlic naan, and rice. The aforementioned restaurant had the hands-down best naan ever. And their basmati was fluffy and flavored with something I've never had since... pretty subtle and the color was white/beige, so no turmeric or any of that.

                                                                    I remember always stuffing myself to the gills when we ate there. And I actually HATED Indian food in general. Could never get down with the curries or other dishes.

                                                                    That restaurant is long gone, but I can honestly say that after 15 years of never eating Indian food again, I would gladly eat there if given the chance.

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                                                                Big Bad Voodoo Lou RE: chompie Jan 9, 2014 02:29 PM

                                                                Tried and found overrated:
                                                                Really crusty "artisan" bread, where the crust is so hard and thick that it hurts your teeth to chew and rips the inside of your mouth to shreds
                                                                Cambozola cheese
                                                                Truffle fries (and pretty much anything with truffles, including truffles themselves)

                                                                Tried and loved:
                                                                Blood sausage/black pudding/morcilla
                                                                Braised red cabbage with melty chunks of goat cheese
                                                                Peppadew peppers (the best peppers)

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                                                                  LotusRapper RE: Big Bad Voodoo Lou Jan 9, 2014 03:52 PM

                                                                  Totally with you on truffles !

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                                                                    Sandwich_Sister RE: Big Bad Voodoo Lou Jan 10, 2014 11:31 AM

                                                                    Agreed on the truffle fries and I LOVE blood sausage!

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                                                                    sisterfunkhaus RE: chompie Jan 12, 2014 04:34 PM

                                                                    Mine are a bit pedestrian. I don't find much I hate but I ordered a Bloody Mary and got this horrific bacon thing that was supposed to be a Mary. I traded for a vodka martini. That was my worst dislike of the year. I also ate canned tomato soup and it was atrocious.

                                                                    Tried this year and love:

                                                                    Runny fried eggs
                                                                    Bourbon
                                                                    Siracha
                                                                    Pork belly (oh my goodness!)
                                                                    Cheese grits

                                                                    1. fldhkybnva RE: chompie Jan 18, 2014 10:23 AM

                                                                      Tried and loved -
                                                                      Hollaindaise sauce
                                                                      Kale
                                                                      Roasted bone marrow

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                                                                        BobbieSue RE: chompie Jan 22, 2014 02:03 PM

                                                                        Tried and overrated:
                                                                        red velvet cake
                                                                        frozen yogurt
                                                                        broccoli rabe

                                                                        Tried and loved:
                                                                        goat cheese with honey and walnuts
                                                                        wild caught salmon
                                                                        (real) maple flavored yogurt

                                                                        1. Paprikaboy RE: chompie Jan 22, 2014 02:11 PM

                                                                          Overrated:

                                                                          Foie Gras
                                                                          Krispy Kreme Doughnuts
                                                                          Pulled Pork

                                                                          Tried and loved:

                                                                          Nasi Lemak
                                                                          Poutine
                                                                          French Dip Sandwich

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