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What OTHER things should I smoke in addition to the 'main event'?

c oliver Nov 15, 2013 10:11 AM

We're probably doing another 9#ish pork shoulder this weekend. I'm thinking I should use up some more space in my (Bradley) smoker. Maybe a chicken? Some vegetables? What kinds of things do you do and how do you handle various cooking times? Do some items need less smoke than, say, the pork so you'd add them later and then some need less time so you remove them sooner? I'm wondering since this will only be our fourth venture if I'm getting a little beyond my pay grade. Any thought would be appreciated.

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    seattle_lee Nov 15, 2013 11:09 AM

    Tomatoes. 2 hours is about right at 225 for large tomatoes packed with some air between them. Add time if you dense pack them. Add even more time if you stack them (as I often do) -- that could bring it up to 4 hours max.

    Chicken is also great -- I use a 4 hour brine, then onto the smoker for ~5 hours.

    What I typically do is add the pork first, then add the other items. I will often smoke the tomatoes for a couple of hours, then pull them out and put the chicken on. Tomatoes then go in the oven at 170.

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      c oliver Nov 17, 2013 02:03 PM

      TOMATOES!!!!! I forgot to put them on in the beginning but they still got a couple of hours of smoke. THEN I forgot to take them out so they went about four hours total. They are AMAZING. Thank you SO much. We're having a little dinner party tomorrow with the pork shoulder as the main. I'd been considering various sides. Those tomatoes will be one of them, for sure.

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        c oliver Nov 18, 2013 05:58 PM

        I have another thread on this but the tomatoes have already received roasted pearl onions and when serving I'm adding some crumbled bacon bits and chopped scallions.

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          seattle_lee Nov 19, 2013 07:44 AM

          Thanks for the feedback. I'll try a little longer smoke the next time I do them -- sounds like it worked for you. I've been afraid the smoke would be too dominant if I did that, but it sounds like that's not the case.

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            c oliver Dec 10, 2013 05:13 PM

            Smoked about a dozen tomatoes today. We were cold smoking some meat (two batches) so the tomatoes got cold smoked for about 90 minutes and then regular cooking in the smoker for a maybe three hours. Attached are a couple of pix, one as they came out of the smoker and the other peeled. All I do is cut off the stem end and pull the skin off in one piece from the other end. SO good. I'm freezing them individually on a baking sheet and will then put in a zipping bag. Three are going into tonight's dinner of lamb and orzo pasta ala the Frugal Gourmet.

             
             
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              seattle_lee Dec 10, 2013 09:42 PM

              Great looking tomatoes!

      2. scubadoo97 Nov 18, 2013 12:44 PM

        Smoked baked beans are always a good side

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          c oliver Nov 18, 2013 12:59 PM

          How does one smoke beans please?

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            JayL Nov 18, 2013 05:27 PM

            Mix up your baked beans and put them on the rack UNDER your pork butt (or brisket).

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              c oliver Nov 18, 2013 05:57 PM

              Oh, like, not smoking dried beans :) Thanks.

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                scubadoo97 Nov 18, 2013 11:04 PM

                Right out of the can or using beans you've previously cooked in sauce. Little bits of cooked meat trimmings in the beans are nice additions

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                  JayL Nov 19, 2013 07:11 AM

                  LoL

                  I would NOT suggest smoking dried beans! LoL

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                    c oliver Nov 19, 2013 08:40 AM

                    I was trying to imagine that!

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                  opinionatedchef Apr 2, 2014 10:58 PM

                  oh yummmm, jay. now how come i never thought of that?!

                  c, a few yrs ago i posted my recipe (on Home Cooking)for a Smoked Pork Stew where we also smoked the garlic, onions, canned plum tomatoes, and cubed skin-on butternut squash.

                  i have also had good results smoking corn and all kinds of nuts (no salt or flavoring) I do all these on disposable half sheet pans, doubled up for strength, into which i have poked holes all over, with a skewer. I have used metal cake racks as spacers, for smoking 2 levels at once.

                  (btw, c, i have been meaning to say that i enjoy that you change his portrait from time to time. Fun to see all the ways he is so handsome!)

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                    c oliver Apr 2, 2014 11:22 PM

                    Hi, o. Thanks and actually a "she." Gypsy, post beauty parlor :)

                    I appreciate all the addition suggestions of things to smoke. I had no idea. How do you do the corn please?

            2. Njchicaa Nov 19, 2013 08:51 AM

              Smoked meatloaf is amazing.

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                c oliver Nov 19, 2013 08:57 AM

                Bob read about smoked meatloaf. Had we remembered it I'd have put one any. Any suggestions on timing?

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                  scubadoo97 Nov 19, 2013 02:13 PM

                  The last meatloaf I made was smoked. Just excellent

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                    c oliver Nov 19, 2013 02:20 PM

                    s, how long did you smoke it and did you check IT?

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                      scubadoo97 Nov 19, 2013 06:34 PM

                      Can't tell you, it's been too long, but most likely smoked at around 225f till done

                       
                       
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                        c oliver Nov 19, 2013 06:42 PM

                        Drool. So you didn't check the internal temp? I'm guessing 160.

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                          Njchicaa Nov 19, 2013 06:55 PM

                          We smoke ours 3-4 hours. I don't remember to what temp. My husband has a chart that has times and temps for everything that he found somewhere online.

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                            scubadoo97 Nov 20, 2013 01:10 PM

                            Sounds right. I do own a couple of Thermapens so I think I may have probed it

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                            Veggo Nov 19, 2013 06:43 PM

                            Nice, scuba! Prettier than a $5 shoe shine!

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                              scubadoo97 Nov 20, 2013 01:11 PM

                              Haha. Thanks Veggo

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                      jujuthomas Nov 19, 2013 12:01 PM

                      baking potatoes. DH puts them in for a few hours when he smokes a chicken. they are so good.

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                        c oliver Nov 19, 2013 12:25 PM

                        Ooh, that sounds great. I think I better have some lunch :) Thanks.

                      2. c oliver Nov 19, 2013 02:15 PM

                        I emailed a chef friend who has a smoker in his restaurant. He said, oh yeah. One of things he mentioned was grains. That sounds interesting.

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                          opinionatedchef Apr 2, 2014 11:14 PM

                          I think grains may be challengiing but i've never tried. Your chef friend has smoked raw grains? i had 'smoked grits' the other night at a local new Boston restnt that cold smokes alot of components- but this particular smoke was very faint. Chef said porous foods take the smoke better, but maybe you can still get a full smokiness if you smoke them a lot longer...
                          So i'm thinking that maybe cooked quinoa, ramen etc. would smoke well and not take too long. There's a current CH feature on innovative things to do w/ ramen, and the author smokes it in its dry form.

                        2. JayL Nov 19, 2013 03:28 PM

                          If the smoker is going in the morning, you can do a fatty for breakfast (or any other meal if it's not morning).

                          A fatty really is nothing more than a log of ground sausage usually stuffed with "things" inside (your imagination is the only thing that limits you) and wrapped with bacon on the outside...smoked till done. Slice and serve. Pretty great way to start the day.

                          Also, you can throw on some ABTs if you don't mind stuffed/smoked jalapeno peppers.

                          Plenty of ideas for fatties and ABTs on the net.

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                            linguafood Nov 19, 2013 03:37 PM

                            He he. That wasn't the first thing that came to my mind when you said "fatty" --- but it sounds *really* great!!

                            What are some of your favorite stuffings for the long, and... what's an ABT?

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                              c oliver Nov 19, 2013 03:41 PM

                              Check this out.

                              http://www.smoking-meat.com/january-2...

                              But really. Jimmy Dean sausage. Ugh. I grind my own pork and if I didn't I'd get something better than that.

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                                linguafood Nov 19, 2013 03:42 PM

                                Whoa. I do love my bacon, but that.... would be a bit overkill, even for me. I'd have to take a 4 hour nap after eating even a couple bites of that.

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                                  c oliver Nov 19, 2013 03:58 PM

                                  It looks more like a craft project than breakfast!

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                              c oliver Nov 19, 2013 03:37 PM

                              What's an ABT?????

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                                seamunky Nov 19, 2013 07:03 PM

                                ABT = atomic buffalo turds

                                http://www.theblackpeppercorn.com/2012/03/atomic-buffalo-turd-jalapeno-poppers-aka-a-b-t/

                                http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipe...

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                                  JayL Nov 19, 2013 07:16 PM

                                  And they are quite tasty.

                                  We often throw a few habaneros in the mix...they'll do it if the japs don't.

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                                    seamunky Nov 19, 2013 07:24 PM

                                    I've heard of some circles doing that and not labeling the habaneros so it becomes a game of chile roulette. . .not a game that I could play.

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                                  c oliver Nov 19, 2013 07:27 PM

                                  I don't want to yuck someone's yum so I'm going to reply to myself. I find the word "turd" when talking about food pretty vulgar. Sorry, kids.

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                                    seamunky Nov 20, 2013 09:40 AM

                                    I agree it's kind of a silly name. Everyone calls them ABT's though. I think it's for the shock value when someone asks "What does ABT stand for?" as they're chomping away.

                                    < I find the word "turd" when talking about food pretty vulgar>

                                    Someone made a similar comment about turducken!

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                                      JayL Nov 20, 2013 09:50 AM

                                      Call 'em smoked poppers and be done with it! LoL

                                      They're too good to pass up.

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                                        c oliver Nov 20, 2013 10:05 AM

                                        I'm going with "smoked poppers"!!!!

                                        Re "turducken," seamunky, why did you have to tell me that?!?!? :) I've always thought of it as tur-duck-en. Nevermore.

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                                          seamunky Nov 20, 2013 10:18 AM

                                          Hahah, sorry c oliver.

                                          I always thought turducken = what you have to do when you walk past a troop of monkeys

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                                            porker Nov 20, 2013 12:36 PM

                                            Howsabout the MCcrap?

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                                          jujuthomas Nov 20, 2013 11:45 AM

                                          it's a terrible name. DH also uses one about Rat Toes... i hate it. I call them poppers or smoked poppers as Jay suggests.

                                          they are terrific, no matter the name.

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                                            c oliver Nov 20, 2013 01:54 PM

                                            I AM glad to learn about this even with THAT name :)

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                                        jujuthomas Nov 20, 2013 06:02 AM

                                        DH does amazing ABTs with lil smokies, cream cheese and cheaddar inside! YUM.

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                                          JayL Nov 20, 2013 09:54 AM

                                          I like to use pub cheese mixed with shredded cheddar and seasonings (usually dry rub or something).

                                          The wife asks for them all the time.

                                          The peppers really lose much of their heat during the cooking process.

                                          Like I said earlier, we like to add in a couple habanero peppers also. They don't lose much heat. LoL

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                                            jujuthomas Nov 20, 2013 11:40 AM

                                            I'll have to suggest that to the hubs, thanks JayL. We did some recently with a bit of smoked chicken in them. delish.

                                      3. JayL Nov 19, 2013 03:32 PM

                                        Cornish Hens...oh yeah...

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                                          Bobfrmia Nov 19, 2013 07:00 PM

                                          These are amazing.
                                          http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/10...

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                                            c oliver Nov 19, 2013 07:06 PM

                                            AMAZING indeed! If you go back and remove the quotation marks at the end, it will load. I've saved that one. Thanks.

                                          2. porker Nov 19, 2013 07:08 PM

                                            A bit more involved than simply smoking (requires spicing, curing, washing, smoking, resting, steaming), but well worth the effort, Montreal Smoked Meat.

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                                              c oliver Nov 19, 2013 07:10 PM

                                              Just googled. Ya know, I gotta figure out why I never see brisket here in Northern CA. But that's the subject for another thread...which I keep meaning to do.

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                                                porker Nov 19, 2013 07:14 PM

                                                A detailed, longish thread, but lotsa info
                                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7940...

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                                              autumm Nov 19, 2013 07:33 PM

                                              if you have a block on hand, firm tofu for about an hour. It makes an interesting twist on stir fry later.

                                              I've also done pineapple wedges in the residual heat and served with a bit of vanilla ice cream and balsamic (or just balsamic) for desert. I put them on when I take the main off, so no more than an hour.

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                                                c oliver Nov 19, 2013 07:35 PM

                                                Cool. Let me clarify. When you take the "main" off, do you put the pineapple in and then turn the smoker/heater off. I really like this idea. Also thinking about peaches.

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                                                jujuthomas Nov 20, 2013 06:03 AM

                                                how could I forget... chicken livers! DH puts them on for about an hour, I think.

                                                1. FoodFire Dec 11, 2013 01:52 PM

                                                  More pork butt! If you have the room, it doesn't take any more time to cook two butts than it does one. This way you get to do a little side by side testing with different rubs and sauces. And any leftovers can go in pulled pork tacos, or chilli, or baked beans.

                                                   
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                                                    c oliver Dec 11, 2013 05:25 PM

                                                    We've done a couple of pork butts. The leftovers get cut in 1/2# pieces, FoodSaver'ed, and frozen. On short notice, I have makings for sandwiches, tacos, whatever. Just pulled a piece out earlier. Neither of us are into pulled pork and we never sauce them, either while cooking or eating. Just us.

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                                                    seamunky Dec 18, 2013 11:49 AM

                                                    It there's room in your smoker, you can always add dishes of salt or spices to smoke. If you live near an asian grocer, you can often find bags of Korean sea salt for really cheap. They are large grains and still moist. They take up smoke real well since they are kind of moist and then they dry out from the heat and are crunchy. They work wonderfully in a salt grinder.

                                                    You can also smoke chilies - either fresh or dried. And while you're cold smoking, throw in a chunk of cheese. MMMMmmm....smoked cheese.

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                                                      c oliver Dec 18, 2013 02:45 PM

                                                      I smoked some salt but obviously not long enough. It pretty much tastes like...salt :) Will do it again next time.

                                                      @Steve, I smoked a meatloaf and it was incredible. The best we've ever had. Have also done tomatoes, another real winner.

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                                                        jujuthomas Dec 19, 2013 10:56 AM

                                                        we had smoked meatloaf at a local bbq place and it left us wanting - wanting to smoke our own that is! it's on my list for the next two weeks while we are on christmas vacation. :)

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                                                          c oliver Dec 19, 2013 11:02 AM

                                                          We got ours through these folks. That's a VERY good price.

                                                          http://www.meatprocessingproducts.com...

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                                                            jujuthomas Mar 26, 2014 06:22 AM

                                                            thanks for the link. I may regret it, but I sent it on to the hubs...he was ooh-ing and ah-ing last night. :-D

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                                                              c oliver Mar 26, 2014 08:14 AM

                                                              We had a couple over a while back and they saw the meat come out and then ate it. They ordered one the next day!

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                                                                jujuthomas Mar 26, 2014 10:42 AM

                                                                I'm sure he's now plotting to replace our smoker (a small weber smokey moutain), but I believe replacing the crappy barrel grill with a new weber kettle is first.

                                                    2. Steve Green Dec 18, 2013 12:21 PM

                                                      Vicarious smoking here, but if we lived in a place where I could have a smoker, I'd be doing a lot of experimenting. Aged Gouda is excellent smoked, as are many other cheeses. Smoked butter is good as well.

                                                      After smoking a variety of cheeses, I'd try meatloaf, nuts, stone fruit, pears, various veggies, and (back on the other end of the health scale) yes, those ATB's sure sound good too.

                                                      Of course, the first course would be slow-smoked brisket. Not negotiable.

                                                      1. c oliver Dec 29, 2013 11:57 AM

                                                        A few weeks ago we cold smoked some thin 7-bone steaks and also a few pork chops. This morning I floured a chop and fried in butter and oil. Just perfect with eggs and toast. At 40 minutes cold smoking it seems to be just the right amount of time for something small that you don't want to be strongly smoke flavored.

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                                                          c oliver Mar 25, 2014 09:36 AM

                                                          Cooked one of the previously smoked and then frozen pork chops last night for dinner. S&P, oo and then into a CI skillet for about three minutes a side. Just perfect. Oh, and thawed one of the smoked tomatoes that I then mixed in with the green peas. LOVE this piece of gear! And all of y'all for the inspirations.

                                                           
                                                           
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                                                            JayL Mar 25, 2014 07:37 PM

                                                            Your happiness is all that matters. I bet the smoked chop was good.

                                                            We had Caribbean (Trinidad) stewed pork, red beans & rice, and salad for supper.

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                                                              c oliver Mar 25, 2014 07:39 PM

                                                              Did that pork "start" its life smoked? Could you elaborate please?

                                                              I love opening the freezer and seeing packages of cold smoked meat and vegetables. What a geek :)

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                                                                JayL Mar 25, 2014 10:06 PM

                                                                Nah, it wasn't smoked...just fresh. I cut up a picnic shoulder...skin & all. The skin (and fat) gives it wonderful flavor...although not on the Jenny Craig plan!

                                                                I would explain, but I usually lose people right at the first step...when I tell them to burn some sugar.

                                                                Here's a basic recipe:

                                                                http://www.simplytrinicooking.com/200...

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                                                              opinionatedchef Apr 2, 2014 11:40 PM

                                                              c, a local Mexican restnt used to do a smoked pork chop with salsa verde(w/ ground toasted almonds and pine nuts) and melted cheese-- a delic combo.

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                                                              daislander Mar 25, 2014 10:17 PM

                                                              Just picked up my 'new to me' Bradley yesterday. CANT WAIT to buy the cold smoke adaptor for it!!! Supposed to be a killer salmon year!!

                                                              Great idea cold smoking, freezing and cooking when needed.

                                                            4. John E. Jan 20, 2014 02:55 PM

                                                              Whenever I'm smoking a pork shoulder or ribs I usually throw on at least a dozen chicken thighs or turkey thighs and/or drumsticks.

                                                              1. c oliver Mar 27, 2014 10:30 AM

                                                                I believe I've mentioned that recently we smoked a bunch of tomatoes, tomatillos, poblanos and jalapenos. Last night I sauteed some shrimp and served over pasta. In addition to the usual ingredients (garlic, shallot, capers, red pepper flakes, etc) I added a chopped tomato and a chopped tomatillo. SO good. It seems like anything that's already good is going to get better with a little smoke flavor.

                                                                 
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