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saccebers Nov 13, 2013 06:06 PM

Hello! This i my first post!

My fiance and I are hosting our first grown-up dinner party for 4 other couples, but I am totally at a loss of what to make. I am someone who enjoys cooking and eating adventurously, but I am stumped based on our guests. The reason is... one guest is a vegetarian and one is gluten free; a problem that I am sure is found elsewhere on the board. However two of the other people are just picky eaters- nothing crazy, nothing adventurous, would be happy eating steak and potatoes nightly. What do I make? I was thinking I could make two main courses, one with meat gluten free and one vegetarian, but with the same style (such as chicken parm and eggplant parm.) Anyone have any suggestions for me? Thank you in advance1

  1. westsidegal Nov 19, 2013 05:29 PM

    is the vegetarian a lacto-ovo vegetarian or a vegan?

    if milk and cheese is ok, you have a ton of choices.

    keep in mind that scalloped potatoes, polenta, rice, quinoa, are all gluten free (according to my GF girlfriend).

    almost any kind of bean soup made omitting the dead-animal-stock will work: minestrone, curry, etc.
    fwiw, many italian soups work well because they are easilyadapted to meatless fridays.

    1. greygarious Nov 15, 2013 05:07 PM

      There's a Vegan&Vegetarian Board where people with special expertise in this type of question will be sure to see it.

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        Puffin3 Nov 19, 2013 07:14 AM

        What do you feed a 'Level Seven' vegan?
        They don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

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          Ttrockwood Nov 19, 2013 02:45 PM

          Sunshine.

          :P

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            chompie Nov 19, 2013 04:06 PM

            saccabers, has this taken place yet? your original idea was pretty good but make sure you know what kind of vegetarians they are cuz it would be a bummer if you made eggplant parm and they don't eat cheese! Lasagna works well too for 2 types at once.. Or a nice stew in two pots, one with meat and one without

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        treb Nov 15, 2013 08:49 AM

        I have a vegan friend, when having them over I generally make larger sides and no main. That way every one can choose from a variety of options.

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          autumm Nov 15, 2013 07:56 AM

          This is my yearly Super Bowl party (vegan friends, SIL with celiacs, my husband who wants Meat! at his party), only it's nut free too:) for my daughter.

          What I tend to do is pick a flavor profile/cuisine and build around that. Last year I went Mediterranean/Greek so we had gyros, falafel, quinoa salad and the required fixings. The year before it was Ethiopian with W'et (2 different) and injera. I've done fajita/taco bar as well. THinking I might go Indian this year, but we will see.

          I find that by picking your meat and vegetarian options from the same culinary background, it makes the meal feel more complete, and less I made this special for you cause you are weird food wise. For serving, if you are having some gluten containing items on the menu, plate or let the person with gluten issues go first, to minimize cross contamination.

          It's not as hard as it seems, and I kind of enjoy the challenge.

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            hotoynoodle Nov 15, 2013 08:09 AM

            it's really not hard and is becoming more common that varying needs be accommodated. people stuck in a meat and sandwich mind-set need to come into the 21st century. :)

            while my place can fit lots of people, my dining table only seats 4, so mostly i do buffet type meals. this provides ample variety to cook and eat and doesn't pinpoint a plate for those with special requirements.

          2. Karl S Nov 15, 2013 04:52 AM

            And, for future reference, don't invite this group together again. A wise host only choses one battle at a time.

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              hotoynoodle Nov 15, 2013 06:03 AM

              the op has gotten plenty of productive suggestions on how to host her friends. this is hardly difficult.

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              tastesgoodwhatisit Nov 14, 2013 10:53 PM

              What about steak and potatoes, then, with grilled portabello mushrooms as a vegetarian option? Do baked potatoes, with toppings that the guests can add themselves, a nice garden salad with home-made vinagrette, and a side of steamed vegetables with herbed butter. You could do home-made cream of tomato soup as a starter, if you wanted to, and ice cream with fresh fruit as a dessert.

              A mushroom lasagne with gluten free noodles could also work.

              It does matter if your friend actually has celiac disease, or is doing gluten free as a fad diet. The former requires a very high level of vigilance, as gluten can crop up in very unexpected places (soy sauce, pickles, salad dressing, mustard, tomato paste, veggie burgers, sausages, oats and barley). (And note that if you're making parm, you'll need gluten free bread crumbs, and be careful with pre-grated paremsan).

              1. EWSflash Nov 14, 2013 06:47 PM

                Gods above, I wish you good luck with that, truly.
                Cooking for picky/diet specific people is a hill I'm not really ready to die on. I'm sorry, but I'm fairly old, and though I hate to admit it, a little reluctant to completely reexamine my culinary repertoire. I'm not so meat-centric, either.

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                  saccebers Nov 14, 2013 04:31 PM

                  You guys are great! These are all delicious sounding things! I am deciding between:

                  Huge pot of risotto with stir ins for various tastes
                  Fritattas with meat and/or veggies and salad
                  Fajita bar with grilled chicken/veggies/beans and flour/corn tortillas

                  That way the vegetarian can feel included and the gluten-free guest (who I support fully in her choice to be gluten free after years of ill-health) can participate and the picky eaters won't have anything too crazy.

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                    hotoynoodle Nov 14, 2013 04:35 PM

                    risotto doesn't "sit" well, it needs to be finished and served, otherwise it gets all gummy.

                    the fajita bar sounds great so everybody can have a bit of everything! even carnivores will sometimes eat beans!

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                      goodhealthgourmet Nov 14, 2013 07:39 PM

                      I love the fajita bar idea.

                      I totally spaced on the mention that this was your first post, so welcome to Chowhound! And please don't take it personally that we sort of ran off the rails with some off-topic "discussion" about picky eaters and food allergies. Happens all the time around here - you'll get used to it :)

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                        Ttrockwood Nov 14, 2013 09:13 PM

                        Oooh, fajitas are always great! And a homemade pico de gallo and guacamole are perfect to go with. The picky eaters can just skip the good stuff :)

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                          EllieS Nov 15, 2013 07:54 AM

                          Along the same lines, how about a baked potato bar? That will give you room to make abunch of toppings that should be able to accomadate everyone.

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                            Cherylptw Nov 19, 2013 02:50 PM

                            Along the same lines is doing a polenta or grits bar. A few years ago, this was done at a wedding. There were 3-4 flavors of grits (herb & roasted tomato, smoked gouda, etc) Then there were a ton of add in's that guests used to customize their grits like blackened shrimp, spinach & feta, etc. You get the idea. It was a smash, in fact, at the end of the event, there were no more grits.

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                              kitchengardengal Nov 19, 2013 04:35 PM

                              Now, that sounds good! I love the choices of add-ins. Thanks, Cherylptw, I just need an occasion to use this idea.

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                          Ttrockwood Nov 14, 2013 02:36 PM

                          I made this (vegetarian gluten free) and stuffed into roasted acorn squash halves for a gorgeous presentation. You could add in chopped sausage or bacon for non veg, and serve with a fall salad
                          http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/ottolenghi-red-rice-and-quinoa-recipe.html

                          This hearty stew is would also work (veg and gluten free) and serve with gluten free toast or sub crackers for serving
                          http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2012/01...

                          1. raytamsgv Nov 14, 2013 11:59 AM

                            Make it a potluck.

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                              Puffin3 Nov 14, 2013 03:40 PM

                              Exactly! Tell those who have food 'issues' to bring along what they'd like to eat. Simple.
                              Went to a wedding last summer. There were a couple of tables set aside for those with food 'issues' While about fifty of us gnawed on rib eyes and baked potatoes and salads the people at the tables collectively glared at us while picking away at their tofu dogs etc. They actually came across like we ought not to be eating what they couldn't. BTW no one was smirking at them or anything.

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                                chefathome Nov 14, 2013 03:51 PM

                                I agree that it can be easier for those of us with food restrictions to bring our own food. At least for me it is. There are no cross contamination issues to deal with. But I do not draw attention to it as it robs others of their enjoyment.

                                In fact, when we are invited to a social event the food we bring is so delicious that we are asked to bring food for everyone (other than large gatherings such as weddings which is a different issue). Not sulk worthy. :-) Gluten-free definitely need not be boring!

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                                  hotoynoodle Nov 14, 2013 04:02 PM

                                  why were the vegetarians quarantined? it's not contagious. however if you were gnawing on bones at a wedding i might look askance!

                                  i was a vegetarian for years and never liked being made anything "special", or to have my dietary habits made noticed.

                                  an array of dishes makes for a leisurely meal and nobody feels like an oddball. when i entertain you'd be surprised how many avowed carnivores hoover the veg dishes.

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                                    Puffin3 Nov 14, 2013 04:20 PM

                                    The wedding dinner sat about seventy people. Of those about ten had 'food issues'. What would you have rather happened? The servers coming out with 'special meals' attempting to locate the 'special diners' scattered throughout the tables? "I have a tofu burger here. Who does it belong to?"
                                    It wasn't my decision to serve 'bone-in' rib eyes' but they sure where tasty.

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                                      hotoynoodle Nov 14, 2013 04:32 PM

                                      didn't people pre-order their meals and have assigned seats? there should be no auctioning off of food. sorry, i was an event planner for a long time.

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                                        Puffin3 Nov 15, 2013 05:38 AM

                                        Our son is celiac BTW.
                                        Yes those with 'food issues' did pre-order. The 'planner' decided rather than make each of these people possibly uncomfortable ie: Server: "This is seat number thirty? Are you Bill Jackson? If so here's your specially prepared meal. We wouldn't want your neighbor here to go into shock LOL. You're not Bill Jackson? Excuse me everyone. Is Bill Jackson here? We have your special meal for you".
                                        Instead she wisely IMO sat those with 'food issues' at their own tables. (At least they had something in common to talk about.)
                                        It's not those who have no food issues fault some others do.
                                        I did notice none of them appeared to had any aversion to the free flowing bottles of wine.

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                                          phofiend Nov 15, 2013 08:26 AM

                                          When does a guest pre-order a wedding meal? Every wedding I've ever attended was either a buffet with an array of dishes, or guests chose their meal from a menu of 3 or 4 selections when they took their seats. There has always been a vegetarian (usually vegan) option.

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                                            Hobbert Nov 15, 2013 08:31 AM

                                            Really? A majority of weddings I attend include an entree choice on the response card. Maybe a regional thing?

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                                              hotoynoodle Nov 15, 2013 08:32 AM

                                              my work and personal experience has been unless it's a buffet, most times people pre-order when they rsvp. i've worked hundreds of weddings.

                                              even if people are ordering when they sit, there should be no problem which plate is theirs, with no auctioning necessary.

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                                                phofiend Nov 15, 2013 08:35 AM

                                                Interesting. I've never seen that. Hobbert must be onto something. I'm in NY. Where are you located?

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                                                  Hobbert Nov 15, 2013 08:42 AM

                                                  I'm in Northern VA.

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                                                    hotoynoodle Nov 15, 2013 08:48 AM

                                                    i grew up with family in ny/nj and have worked in boston over 20 years.

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                                          magiesmom Nov 14, 2013 06:08 PM

                                          If I am having guests to a meal I want to pamper, not marginalize them.
                                          I like the mushroom ragout over polenta or rice, roasted vegetables and a huge leafy complex salad.

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                                            hotoynoodle Nov 14, 2013 06:24 PM

                                            thing is, if you have only 1 veg-head out of 10 guests, and you, the host, are not one, an all-veg dinner seems... weird.

                                            when i was a vegetarian people made mushroom dishes all the time as a "meat sub" for me. i don't really like mushrooms all that much, lol, so it was mostly wasted effort.

                                            sounds like the op might be on the younger side, so food specificities and a spread of plates are both "normal".

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                                              magiesmom Nov 15, 2013 06:04 AM

                                              There are so many vegetarian dishes that are delicious and not aggressively vegetarian, that I just don't get the problem.

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                                        kitchengardengal Nov 14, 2013 11:14 AM

                                        If it's not too cold out to use the grill, you could make lamb, chicken and vegetable kebabs.
                                        Some vegetables that we like on the grill: asparagus, green beans, eggplant, sweet potato, mushrooms, onion and peppers. We do all of those in one meal with friends sometimes. Everyone loves the array of vegetables.
                                        Serve with a big pile of basmati rice and a salad, and some good bread or GF cornbread.

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                                          shinstigator Nov 14, 2013 11:05 AM

                                          I just did this but with vegan, gluten-free, soy-free and regular foodies. I did a leg of lamb for the regular folks, grilled portobellos for the vegans, vegan tsaziki, a side of quinoa & kale (vegans need some protein) with a mediterranean flair, an arugula/basil/tomato salad, and roasted potatoes & vegetables. The key is isolating the types of ingredients so that people can pick and choose according to their preferences. The great thing about roasts/roasting is that they don't need a lot of attention so you can focus on other things.

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                                            gourmanda Nov 14, 2013 11:01 AM

                                            Paella--one w/ meat, one w/o; some good bread and a simple green salad.

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                                              bagelman01 Nov 15, 2013 07:34 AM

                                              some good bread...GLUTEN FREE?????????????
                                              sound like an oxymoron

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                                                gourmanda Nov 15, 2013 07:43 AM

                                                calm down. There is such a thing as gluten-free bread.

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                                                  bagelman01 Nov 15, 2013 08:18 AM

                                                  yes there is gluten free bread, I just have a problem finding GOOD gluten free bread in the USA.

                                                  Most non-wheat grain breads (rye for example) still are made with some wheat flour.

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                                                    westsidegal Nov 19, 2013 05:23 PM

                                                    i've never tasted a GOOD gluten free bread

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                                                    KarenDW Nov 20, 2013 01:45 AM

                                                    gluten free person might be able to just avoid the bread...

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                                                  4Snisl Nov 14, 2013 07:02 AM

                                                  How about polenta with mushroom bourguignon (or roasted vegetables, if mushrooms are considered a no-go) and a green salad or buttered steamed sugar snap peas on the side? Here is a good recipe for the mushroom dish: http://smittenkitchen.com/blog/2009/0... (you would probably need to substitute a gluten-free thickener, like cornstarch, arrowroot, or rice flour for the regular flour.

                                                  )

                                                  You could also go the route of making risotto- stir ins could be green peas, mushrooms, roasted butternut squash cubes....

                                                  If you think that you want some meat on the table, simply sauteed herb-marinated chicken breast sounds pretty simple and non-offensive, but can be really delicious when done well (and fits with many menus).

                                                  You could also go in a very adventurous but picky-eater friendly route and make tapas. Spanish tortilla is just potatoes and eggs....sauteed greens....roasted asparagus....roasted potato wedges with romesco on the side (skip the bread in the sauce)....roasted garlic and bread.....garlic shrimp....sliced cured meats....just probably a matter of making sure things that are gluten-free are clearly designated, and that there's extra portions fo the vegetarian dishes to make sure no one goes hungry because of other guests' choices. :)

                                                  Welcome!

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                                                    goodhealthgourmet Nov 14, 2013 12:24 PM

                                                    4Snisl, are you camped out in the back of my brain? Polenta with mushroom ragout, risotto with butternut squash & mushrooms, and a frittata or Spanish tortilla were going to be my top suggestions :) So I second all of them!

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                                                      4Snisl Nov 14, 2013 09:12 PM

                                                      What a fun place to camp out....and a great compliment to match your ideas! :)

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                                                        goodhealthgourmet Nov 15, 2013 07:31 PM

                                                        Aww, you're sweet! But I don't know how much fun it is back there these days unless you like dust & cobwebs ;)

                                                  2. mels Nov 14, 2013 06:55 AM

                                                    How picky are the picky eaters? I would go the Asian route (if picky eaters would be OK with it), as you can use soba noodles (buckwheat = gluten free) or rice as your base and have an infinite number of protein/veg combos from there, with an equally infinite number of sauces. For instance, soba noodles topped with veg and a spicy peanut sauce. Offer two choices of proteins for the meal- crispy fried tofu or grilled chicken (or something like that).

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                                                      chefathome Nov 14, 2013 07:16 AM

                                                      Just a word of caution about soba noodles - although buckwheat is gluten free, most of the brands of soba noodles in our stores in Alberta do contain gluten (wheat) along with the buckwheat. In fact, I the only "safe" brand was found in our local health food store. Hopefully it is different where you live. So, make sure to read the labels! :)

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