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What to order at Brasserie Lipp?

Since our hotel is next door to Brasserie Lipp, I'd guess we'll have at least 1 or 2 lunch or dinner meals there during 1 week + in Paris.

Considerations:

- Primarily looking for meat dishes since 1 person has seafood allergy. Maybe it will be simpler for the kitchen staff if we all had meat.

- My perception is Brasserie Lipp offers Alsacien (Alsatian?) specialties. We'll be spending several days in Strasbourg after Paris, where we'll definitely have Choucroute and Baeckeoffe. Therefore, please exclude those from your recommendations :-).

We enjoy all other meats except for strange (to me) parts, like chicken feet or pig knuckle. We have become adventurous enough to enjoy beef tongue recently.

Does Lipp serve roasted rabbit with mustard sauce? (Lapin à la moutarde?)

At one point I thought I saw the menu on their inscrutable website but I can't find it now.
http://www.groupe-bertrand.com/lipp.php

PS: Their website lists their hours as 9:00am - 1:00am. Do they really serve their food menu continuously during all those hours? Or do they serve drinks only in between the traditional dining hours.

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  1. Brasserie Lipp is close to many restaurants with good food. I'd go to one of those....

    1. You don't go chez Lipp for the food. The choucroute is what most regulars order.

      1. "What to order at Brasserie Lipp? "
        I assume this is a joke or test.
        So the answer is "a taxi."

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        1. re: John Talbott

          Almost pulled a Parigi spurting coffee on the keyboard!

            1. re: John Talbott

              Sorry sweet100's, I apologize, that was flip and mean.
              To be serious and honest, we've all been to Lipp, the Cafe Flore, La Coupole, the Closerie de Lilas and the Deux Magots and other Left Bank places that were the stuff of The Lost Generation up through Sartre & Beauvoir.
              But, speaking for myself, I think even for a coffee, one can do better.
              And in addition, I think most of us think nothing of taking the subway or bus 10-40 minutes away for a good meal (we don't always succeed, but I at least want to stretch a bit.)

              1. re: John Talbott

                John Talbott, my base expectation (hope maybe is a better word) is deliciousness for every meal in Paris.

                In other words, my hope is, regardless of any other constraints we must operate under (day, time of day, travel time available, location, distance, etc), in a city called Paris, if I have researched properly, I should be able to find a delicious meal.

                On days when we have minimal constraints, I merely have to read past postings, which I am doing, with special attention to yours, all those people whose names start with a P..., mangeur, etc., Then we choose from 10 great choices. How easy is that! :-). On days with minimal constraints I'm positive we'll experience a delicious meal.
                (Yes I do realize nothing is 100%, any kitchen can have off days, waiters can be surly anywhere, etc.)

                Ex: This weekend I had fewer than normal time constraints and weather mostly cooperated. So I spent 16 hours (elapsed) making our all time favorite turkey ranch sandwich, starting with brining a turkey breast then smoking it. This Thursday my time constraint will be ~2 min. So I will heat up roasted salted almonds, and grab my favorite hummus and barely roasted veggies for dinner. But given time and calorie constraints I have during the week, that is still a delicious meal.

                The reason why I asked about Brasserie Lipp:

                - I read both favorable and iffy comments here on it (Yes, I searched) http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5918...

                - It's probable that in our 10 days that include 2 Saturdays and 2 Sundays, we'll want a Plan B location close by for lunch or dinner in a place with hours as flexible as Lipp.

            2. Food is very average at Lipp, avoid the fish by all means.
              I don't think they serve lapin à la moutarde.
              Choucroute is better at Bofinger.

              The only thing I'd order at Lipp would be a tartare.

              1. Oh my goodness! :-)
                OK, I would call this a consensus.

                John Talbott, no apology needed, I'd rather know what you really think.

                I was trying to think of a good Plan B place near the hotel when Plan A reservation in another location doesn't work out for whatever reason.

                Though with La Fourchette and Yelp, maybe we'd be able to at least avoid the bad places and find a decent place on our mobile on same day.

                8 Replies
                1. re: sweet100s

                  Chez Fernand, rue Guisarde. Hip, fun, local.

                  1. re: Parigi

                    Around the corner, on rue Mabillon, I have La Petite Cour checked off as one to look at.....

                    1. re: Parigi

                      Agree with Chez Fernand. Or for more funk, Machon d'Henri across the street.

                      I personally would not cash a dinner chit at La Petite Cour. Not great, not inexpensive. Better follow Parigi for something less pretentious and costly.

                      1. re: Parigi

                        I was actually looking at Chez Fernand because I need a place open on Sunday nights. What two different reviews mentioned was "Bruit: Bruyant" or "ambiance bruyante." Sounds like it's a pretty loud place, not my favorite for a dinner à deux.

                        1. re: RandyB

                          This is really becoming a problem here, so much so that I carry, record and write the dB levels.

                      2. re: sweet100s

                        Ok, help me here, I'm an old semi-senile guy, what exactly do you need; a place near your hotel - that's it? A place 10 minutes walking, 20 minutes subway? Good or merely OK food?
                        Parnassien, where are you now that we need you?

                        1. re: John Talbott

                          I think that Maximilien nailed it. We all had or have different preconceptions of Paris. If Lipp is one of sweet100s' imaginary "old friends", she should go ahead with a visit, order simply and enjoy the history and the moment.

                          1. re: mangeur

                            If Lipp is one of the old friends, Balzar is also a short trek from Lipp, looks just as good, and at least they have good fries. Why not visit both?

                      3. I am staying 3-4 minutes from your hotel...and my head is spinning with all the decent options within a 10 minute walk....as per many, including JT, in this forum. For starters, look at Fish-La Boissonerie....plug it in the search engine and read some write-ups.

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                        1. re: VegasGourmet

                          "plug it in the search engine and read some write-ups."
                          Thank you, thank you, thank you. This inexplicable aversion to search - a thousand times worse than the inexplicavable aversion to reserving - is what demoralizes the local regular contributors most.

                          1. re: Parigi

                            Parigi >> This inexplicable aversion to search - a thousand times worse than the inexplicavable aversion to reserving - is what demoralizes the local regular contributors most.

                            Parigi, I spent ~3 hours (probably more) searching for excellent options in this situation.

                            Brasserie Lipp was the ONLY option I found via Search that

                            1) Received POSITIVE comments here on Chowhound

                            and presents the incredible flexibility of features 2) - 4)

                            2) Open every day Mon-Sun 9 am - 1 am

                            3) Very close to my hotel

                            4) Accessible without a reservation

                            However, my sense was it could be 'iffy' so I asked for specific ordering recommendations in this thread.

                            Someone suggested "Le Comptoir Relais", which is already on our Plan A list. However, Paris by Mouth said "Book many weeks in advance.". That means it should not go on the Plan B list since we won't have a days in-advance reservation.

                            In our last vacation, the un-planned place we had to "settle for" after
                            - we arrived too late for Plan A,
                            - Plan B was closed despite their posted hours said they would be open
                            became one of our 2 most memorable and delicious meals of the entire trip. Despite the stern, elderly Czech woman who eventually waved us inside the restaurant near closing. We must have looked as hungry and cold as we were.

                            We've driven several hours for a great meal. But when on vacation and in an unfamiliar place, more constraints are at play.

                            If there are no restaurants that satisfy my constraints, then please simply say:

                            "No, there are no restaurants I know of that both
                            - satisfy your (time-of-day, day, location ) constraints
                            - are delicious."

                            or better

                            "No, there are no restaurants I know of that both
                            - satisfy your (time-of-day, day, location ) constraints
                            - are delicious.
                            but your next best option is _______
                            even though it's not open on Sundays and Mondays."

                            Please do NOT assume that, for example:

                            - Because I am asking a difficult question, I do not want deliciousness.

                            or

                            - Because I predict that we will need a couple breakfasts at an early-for-Paris hour, I must not care about delciousness.

                            or

                            - Because I am looking for a place accessible without reservations near your hotel to use as a Plan B, I must not care about delciousness.

                            All of those assumptions would be incorrect.

                            1. re: sweet100s

                              I will focus on the original request instead of the War & Peace of the because-not's. Deliciousness, Lipp, no.

                              1. re: Parigi

                                Thank you. That's all I need to know.
                                Not suggestions that I did not search when I did.

                                1. re: sweet100s

                                  It's not always a good assumption to make that people look for deliciousness when choosing restaurants - whilst that is important for many the ambiance, history and parisianess of the place is as important.

                                  1. re: PhilD

                                    Indeed I say the same thing about The Flore, that one does not go there for the food. And it is a place I like. Assumptions were made about what I said, but I won't write War & Peace about it.

                                    1. re: Parigi

                                      You just don't go there to eat. They have a wonderful hot chocolate and dreadful coffee.

                                    2. re: PhilD

                                      I totally agree with PhilD, when you are somewhere as steeped in history as Paris sometimes the food takes second place. For instance, I did not particularly like Tour d'Argent's food last time I visited but the service, the ambiance, the VIEW will always remain with me.

                                2. re: sweet100s

                                  Le Comptoir does not need a reservation for lunch - in fact it only does walk in's. It's the weekday evening dinner one needs to book months in advance for.

                              2. re: VegasGourmet

                                My gps is showing Semilla, Bastide d'Opio, Cuisine de Philippe, Huiterie Regis and Le Comptoir Du Relais for places that don't suck within 5 min walk.

                                1. re: VegasGourmet

                                  VegasGourmet>> For starters, look at Fish-La Boissonerie....plug it in the search engine and read some write-ups.

                                  Speaking of reading, did you even bother to read my original request VegasGourmet?

                                  Given what I wrote in my original request, why would you think a place called "Fish-La Boissonerie" would be a good choice?

                                  1. re: sweet100s

                                    "Given what I wrote in my original request, why would you think a place called "Fish-La Boissonerie" would be a good choice?"
                                    Answer: because it's not a fish-only restaurant despite the name... located in a former poissonnerie/ fishmonger shop... and also a wine bar so a play on "boisson"/ drink instead of poisson/ fish.

                                    Having said all that, it's no longer as good as it used to be.

                                    1. re: Parnassien

                                      >> because it's not a fish-only restaurant despite the name...

                                      Of course not. Almost all places with fish or seafood in their name also have meat on their menu.

                                      However, when someone with a seafood allergy indicates that to the server, 9 times out of 10 the server will look puzzled or say some variation of, "You realize you ARE at a seafood restaurant, right?"*

                                      Plus, the risk of cross contamination via shared utensils is probably much higher, especially if its a smaller kitchen.

                                      *One notable exception - Paul Qui winner of Top Chef said he would create a special seafood-free menu for us if we dined at his new restaurant. (I have no special 'in'. This is just Paul being Paul.)

                                      1. re: sweet100s

                                        Fish La Boissonnerie is not a seafood restaurant with meat options... it's a normal restaurant with fish options.

                                        Most restaurants in Paris do offer seafood courses. Including Brasserie Lipp. If you are worried by cross-contamination, your choices will be very limited. To be safe, maybe you should stick to the steak-only no-rezzie Relais de l'Entrecôte on the rue St Benoit (1 min walk from your hotel).

                                        1. re: sweet100s

                                          sweet....I am staying on the Cour du Commerce....google it and you will see my location. Following is my list that I will choose from...all are very easy walking distance (which is my #1 desire):
                                          Le Relais de l'entrecote
                                          Le Lutin dans Le Jardin
                                          La Jacobine
                                          Au 35 rue Jacob
                                          Le Bistrot d'Henri
                                          Chez Gladine
                                          Au Pere Louis
                                          Bistro des Gastronomes
                                          L'epi Dupin
                                          Cepe & Figue
                                          Chex Fernand Christine
                                          Pouic Pouic
                                          Fish-La Boissonnerie
                                          Un Dimanche a Paris
                                          Maison de le Lozere...for Thursday only, for the aligot
                                          My list is developed more from other review websites and blogs....FYI, this is my lunch list (based upon location...you will also see my strong orientation is toward comfort and "accessibility"...and not extreme
                                          Le Souffle
                                          Le Tournebievre
                                          Le Reminet
                                          Robert et Louise
                                          Café des Musees
                                          Brasserie Flottes
                                          Bistro Volnay
                                          La Fontaine de Mars
                                          Café Constant
                                          La Cuisine de Phillipe
                                          I hope that this helps you.........

                                      2. re: sweet100s

                                        It's called "fish" because it's a play on words i.e. drink like a fish. So it is a wine bar with a typical wine bar menu which had the usual one or two fish dishes, but also has meat and vegetarian.....it's never been or wanted to be a fish restaurant (I don't think the rumor that it was once a fish shop is also incorrect).

                                        1. re: PhilD

                                          The rumor that it used to be a fish shop is incorrect, the place was a Portuguese restaurant (Albert International, which I really loved) before it became Fish, and the front of the restaurant looked very different.

                                    2. Can I go against the flow ?

                                      If Lipp interests you, why don't try it at lunch, order something simple and not too expansive, and if you don't like it, you simply do not go again, and report it here.

                                      If you like it, and fits what you are looking for in Paris (for example, first meal when landing, fully jetlagued, ... ) than good for you.

                                      1. I have a couple of go-to restos in this part of St G d P.... all just a 5-min walk from your hotel. When feeling flush, I always enjoy le Bistrot de l'Alycastre on the rue Clément... updated trad for about 50 to 70€ a head... I suspect few Chowhounders have actually tried it so not much coverage on this board. When feeling penny-pinching, I like La Bastide d'Opio on the rue Guisarde for provençale cuisine... the rue Guisarde is one of St Germain's most fun restaurant streets... everyone has their favourite but, having tried almost every resto on the street, I somehow keep going back to Opio. Although not to everyone's liking, I'm also a fan of Le Chardenoux des Prés on the rue du Dragon (2 mins from your hotel)... check the menu and see if it appeals.

                                        I can't join in the trashing of Brasserie Lipp other than to say the price/quality ratio sucks. But the food is not all that dire. The things they do well like choucroute and beef cheeks may not be to your liking or, since you are going to Alsace, not all that appropriate.

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                                        1. re: Parnassien

                                          "Bistrot de l'Alycastre"
                                          I too am puzzled by the lack of comments on lots of fine places like the Bistrot de l'Alycastre.

                                        2. Whether Lipp is a good choice to not depends on what you want. Do not go for cutting edge food. Do not go for a hip and trendy vibe. Do not go if you need to eat at the latest and best. Do not go for named chef.....and in I could probably go on and on, after all it's an easy target.

                                          But if your idea is for a decent meal in very historic surroundings, a meal in a place that has a very definite style, full of grande dames and the old money of the 7eme then it's definitely worth a shot,

                                          As an ex-resident of the area it was on my rotation when I fancied the traditional option. Certainly there are many places (already mentioned) in the area with better food but few places with the style. My advice for the menu is to order defensively and stick with the simple, tradition dishes: a egg mayonnaise followed by steak tartare is good. Ask for a seat in the front, definitely not upstairs or in the back.

                                          1. My 2 cents: since you are going to Alsace, I would avoid Alsatian places in Paris. There's no doubt Alsatian food will be better in Alsace.

                                            It's been way too long since I've been to Brasserie Lipp for me to make a salient comment on the place, but even 20 years ago it was unmemorable.

                                            1. I, unlike many other posters, actually like Brasserie Lipp. The pig's knuckle is good and huge.

                                              1. My experience is pretty dated, but I had an OK blanquette de veau there (it was very cold outside, so that worked for me!). My husband had organized a Hemingway crawl that day, and that's where we ended up around lunch time. Would I go back? Nah. But I did enjoy the atmosphere, and I remember having very good service.