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Stayman WinesapApples

Delucacheesemonger Nov 9, 2013 06:35 AM

Might be very mundane, but am in Pa for the first time in years for apple season and have looked, admittedly not hard, but have found no winesaps yet.
Preferably in CC or the main line.

  1. FrancisdeR Nov 13, 2013 02:14 PM

    I think I saw some on Sunday at the Wegman's in Malvern. I don't know how useful this will be to you if you live in CC.

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      Boognish Nov 11, 2013 12:04 PM

      Available in the West Philly Clark Park Farmers Market on Saturdays.

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        cwdonald Nov 9, 2013 10:42 AM

        Anyone know the history on why the staymans and winesaps were crossbred? Growing up staymans were always staymans and winesapps were always winesapps.... And both were some of the best pie apples available.

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          Bacchus101 Nov 10, 2013 06:44 AM

          We may be in the designer apple era; although crossing has been done for years. I love winesaps as a kid my grandmother's tree provided many great pies and dumplings and a tart and crunchy hand snack. Of course cross cultivation is man just trying to improve on mother nature for a myriad of different reasons. Some sites reference 7,500 pure types of apples identified. Britain has had a conservation effort to preserve 2,000 native varieties. I continue to be baffled as to why the leading cultivated and exported apple is Red Delicious. We have a small orchard(5 trees) of Gravenstein apples yielding more fruit than expected which I believe are not to the standard of the Gravenstein producing areas in size or taste. But the white tails love them.

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            The Professor Nov 10, 2013 10:13 PM

            They are THE best pie apple. I used to use Turley winesaps as well but haven't seen them in recent years (any apple experts out there??? Are the Turley Winesaps I once saw frequently the "pure" winesaps to which some are referring here??)

          2. Delucacheesemonger Nov 9, 2013 10:31 AM

            Just went back to RTM and both Halteman and Farm Fresh had Stayman-Winesap. These, while common in this part of the country, are a hybrid and are neither as tart or bite with a snap as pure winesap.
            Bought them as perhaps my memory fading, memory good, not tart enough for me.

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              curly girl Nov 9, 2013 09:48 AM

              Yes - they are hard to find. A friend and I have been on a search for them and found some at Pappy's Orchard & Lisa's Kitchen on Cassel Road up in Coopersburg. Not Center City, but for those in Bucks/Montgomery counties, it's definitely worth the ride. Pappy's wife bakes pies and baked goods that are delicious. All baked goods and fruit are available at their facility. Highly recommend the butter cake :) www.pappysorchard.com

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                Delucacheesemonger Nov 9, 2013 10:33 AM

                Just checked, they have the pure winesap. Hopefully l can find something nearer.

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                  cwdonald Nov 9, 2013 10:48 AM

                  http://styerorchard.com/whatspickin.html Have them .. right off 95 or Route 1.

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                  Bacchus101 Nov 10, 2013 06:13 AM

                  Thanks for the link to Pappy's. Passed by a small sign and almost made the turn. Next time in that general area I will make that turn to Pappy's, thanks.

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                    curly girl Nov 10, 2013 07:18 PM

                    You're welcome. It's a beautiful drive on a nice day - lots of winding turns and bucolic views. When you pass Possum Hollow Road, you're almost there :) You'll have to let me know if you try the Butter Cake.

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                  Hungryin theBurbs Nov 9, 2013 08:01 AM

                  Not in your preferred location, but I've been getting them at the Creekside Co-op in Elkins Park. They come from Beechwood Orchards, so perhaps you could see where else Beechwood distributes. I know that Kaufman's also sells them through Philadelphia Winter Harvest. Kaufman's also sells at Fair Foods in the RTM, so you might also check there.

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                    cwdonald Nov 9, 2013 08:32 AM

                    In the burbs you can also get them at Styers Orchards, and Solebury Orchards in Bucks Co. Styers is readily accessible off of both 95 and Route 1 not far from Oxford Valley Mall. Solebury Orchards is just outside New Hope.

                  2. caga tio Nov 9, 2013 07:15 AM

                    At the Reading Market: Iovine, Halteman, and the Fair Food Stand. Beechwood Orchards at Rittenhouse on Saturday, Headhouse on Sunday. Three Springs Farm at Headhouse does not have stayman winesap apples but offer an interesting variety of apples.

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                      Delucacheesemonger Nov 9, 2013 07:22 AM

                      Actually was at RTM yesterday, Iovine did not have them, which prompted this thread, will try the others.

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                        caga tio Nov 9, 2013 07:44 AM

                        Iovine had them the week before, but Halteman had them yesterday.

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