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youareabunny Nov 6, 2013 11:27 PM

'Beck said that the government should not require genetically modified foods or organic foods or any other foods to be labeled as such because "this whole organic thing is bullcrap because you can slap 'organic' on anything, it doesn't mean anything." '

I love how he can spread that crap and however many millions of people will nod their heads. Organic has a strict definition, natural does not (there's a thread with a WSJ article on this).

'"No," Beck said. "That's why we need to be honorable people. That's why, if you really want that, you go and you find somebody that you trust. You got to people, and even if it's Whole Foods, and you have to trust that they're being honorable and they're looking for the right food and they'll tell you what it is. Let them, let the market sort it out. Let the market say 'this is our standard for organic, this is what we mean by organic.' You do your own homework" '

http://www.peacock-panache.com/2013/11/beck-we-dont-need-fda-we-just-need-to.html?m=1

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content...

It doesn't seem that much of the mainstream media has bothered with this recent rambling, which is a good sign I suppose.

So what do you think - Is the FDA necessary? Effective? Do they have too much control? Not enough?

  1. Tripeler Nov 7, 2013 12:27 AM

    I'm really in limbaugh about the usefulness of Beck. Of course we need an FDA. I don't think he's being at all honorable about this.

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      youareabunny Nov 7, 2013 12:53 AM

      "I'm really in limbaugh"

      Lolllll.

      I really don't buy the "let the free market regulate itself" stuff.

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        Tripeler Nov 7, 2013 12:55 AM

        Yes, I am with you on the nonsense of markets being able to regulate themselves.

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          jrvedivici Nov 7, 2013 04:11 AM

          Haven't we learned that lesson over and over and over again on Wall St?

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            coney with everything Nov 7, 2013 04:20 AM

            you'd think so, wouldn't you? And yet...

            Glenn Beck is a big fat idiot IMO. No one's paying attention any more because he's not on Faux News, only the true believers pay to hear his drivel

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              youareabunny Nov 7, 2013 05:25 AM

              Obviously Beck hasn't.

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          GH1618 Nov 7, 2013 05:22 AM

          We certainly do need the FDA, but we do not need labelling of foods containing GMOs. It doesn't much matter what Beck says, the FDA is not going to go away.

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            youareabunny Nov 7, 2013 05:26 AM

            I agree about the GMO but he's totally wrong regarding organic labeling.

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              ennuisans Nov 7, 2013 06:07 AM

              I don't understand how the word "need" applies here. GMO labeling would help me make decisions I want to make. I want that information. GMO growers do not want me to have that information. What I NEED is the government (or I would accept another authoritarian body) to make them tell me what I am eating, so I can decide for myself.

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                HillJ Nov 7, 2013 06:14 AM

                I agree. Isn't there value to being able to get information in order to decide for ourselves. On the one hand we read that too much is kept from us, on the other we don't need it. It's easier to decide when you're given the information in the first place.

                Blowhards like Beck don't give a flyin fig about this, just the debate it spurs.

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                  youareabunny Nov 7, 2013 07:35 AM

                  It's just another "government is going to bust down your door and arrest you for ____" argument of his.

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                    HillJ Nov 7, 2013 07:55 AM

                    The guys an ass.

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                      youareabunny Nov 7, 2013 08:02 AM

                      That's an insult to donkeys :(

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                  youareabunny Nov 7, 2013 07:34 AM

                  Unless it's labeled otherwise, I think it's safe to say everything is GMO.

                  And until the price drops, I will have to continue buying GMO, anyway.

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                    GH1618 Nov 7, 2013 08:56 AM

                    GMO is another topic, which has been discussed elsewhere. In this context, it's just an example of how even a stopped clock can occasionally be right.

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                  rasputina Nov 7, 2013 03:00 PM

                  Well he is basically a libertarian, so it's not surprising in the least that he doesn't support Gov controlled food labeling.

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                    DGresh Nov 7, 2013 03:22 PM

                    Let the free market regulate things and we become China, where kids and pets die because of garbage in the food.

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                      sueatmo Nov 7, 2013 03:34 PM

                      The FDA, or the early form of it, was adopted because of adulterated food. It isn't as if the country always had regulation in this area. People who declare that market forces would sort this sort of thing out (when? after a bunch of deaths?) are simply spouting Randian ideology. Or Libertarian ideology. History does not support this at all.

                      Beck is really a rodeo clown. And he makes millions spouting off stupidities.

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                        masha Nov 7, 2013 06:48 PM

                        Exactly right. Two of the major precipitating forces that led to the FDA were (1) adulterated canned meat and other food products bought to feed the armed forces during the Spanish-American War, and (2) the accounts of food adulteration in Upton Sinclair's muckraking novel, The Jungle. Both helped make the public and law makers realize that the free market could not be relied upon to ensure food safety.

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                          sueatmo Nov 7, 2013 10:01 PM

                          I remembered reading about the Sinclair novel, The Jungle. Descriptions of terrible butchering conditions awoke great ire at the time. Today, I read the Wikipedia article on the FDA, which said that vaccines made from sick animals also was influential in getting the ball rolling on regulation.

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                        harrie Nov 7, 2013 05:18 PM

                        Oh, this is about Glenn Beck. I was wondering why Beck the musician had an opinion on the FDA (and why anyone cared).

                        Personally, my local farmers stick to their own standards - some use IPM, some are organic - which are stricter than the FDA's. Which is not to say I think we don't need regulations, just that the FDA's regulations have become so watered down in order to kowtow to the agribusiness bigs that I prefer to deal with people I know so I know whom to address if there's ever a problem.

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                          youareabunny Nov 7, 2013 11:55 PM

                          Exactly what I think. If anything, FDA are too lax.

                          $ > safety

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                          ErnieD Nov 7, 2013 06:34 PM

                          Of course we need an FDA. It seems to be reasonably effective in terms of keeping people from getting sick, given the volume of food being generated in this company. The reasoning that "we should just expect people to be honorable" is so pie-in-the-sky it's laughable. Large corporations have proven again and again that many of them don't care one bit about their customers' heath and safety. It would be great if each one of us could have a personal relationship with a small farmer who provided all of our food, but that's not going to happen.

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                            John Francis Nov 8, 2013 01:15 PM

                            Par for the course.

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