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Nov 6, 2013 04:36 PM

L.A. Coming to NY

Will be staying around 51st and Lexington. Looking for a nice steakhouse. And a nice dinner that is real NY. Also looking for places to go that is typical NY. Bagels, pizza , cheesecake deli etc. would like recs for good markets for smoked fish and other good items. Will go anywhere.

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  1. When is your trip? Most of the most renowned restaurants in the city book up a month in advance (EMP, Le Bernardin, Daniel, etc.)

    What is your budget for the one nice dinner? Are you looking to splurge on the steakhouse dinner and then keep it casual and relatively cheap for the rest of the trip?

    1. Walfgang's for steak, 54th St. and Third Avenue.

      4 Replies
      1. re: darren425

        There's a Wolfgang's in LA (Beverly Hills), and having been to both quite frequently, the LA location offers a rather similar "experience" one gets at the NYC location.

        I think a better NYC steakhouse experience in/around 51/Lex is probably Keen's on 36/5th.

        1. re: ipsedixit

          Yea, I don't think Wolfgang's here would be that different from say, CUT, BOA, Wolfgang's and Marstons in LA.

          Keen's is in deed very "New York" if you want ambiance, and the mutton chop is not to be missed. Minetta Tavern (for the cote de bouef) and Costata may also be worth visiting for you.

          1. re: zeeEats

            ... and Marstons in LA.


            Marston's??? The breakfast place in Pasadena??

            This Marston's??

            1. re: ipsedixit

              Oops, definitely not THAT Marston's! I meant Mastro's in Bevery Hills.

      2. It's good that you are willing to travel for food but we can't really help unless we know your budget and when you're coming. Reservations can be hard to get at the top places if you are not planning more than one month in advance, in general. Sometimes within minutes they'll be fully booked, and Peter Luger and Le Bernardin book even further out than one month.

        Here's what I've written for another visitor. Hopefully it helps you.


        Where are you coming from?

        When are you coming? How long are you here? How many meals do you have available?

        We don't want to recommend food that you might do better at home, but we also may have some cuisines you can't find at home...

        I'd say we are pretty strong in a lot of different cuisines but not equally. Budget will makes big difference in where you can go.

        Are you willing to wait for a table at a no reservations restaurant? If so, for how long?

        How hard are you willing to work for a reservation at a restaurant that's hard to book?

        What is your budget, per person, per meal, BEFORE tax, tip, wine/drinks/etc for your meals? It is much easier for us to help you if you give a pre-tax-and-tip figure.

        Feel free to break out your budget in terms of upscale/fancy meals (and number of them) and cheaper/everyday meals.

        What else are you doing while you are here? Planning around sightseeing, shopping, Broadway shows, etc? Also if you are sightseeing, to make the best use of your time, you should try to find things to eat to/from the tourist destinations or near the tourist destinations. Our tourist destinations are spread out all around town.

        Note that popular places tend to book about a MONTH in advance. Most upscale restaurants serve weekday lunch (but not weekend lunch), and serve dinner Monday through Saturday, and are usually closed Sundays, though there are a few exceptions to the "closed Sundays" rule (ex: Per Se, Eleven Madison Park, Jean Georges).

        Check out some "Only in NY" type foods while you're here: bagels and smoked salmon, pastrami on rye, pizza, hot dogs & papaya juice, black and white cookies, cheesecake, egg creams, pickles, halal carts.

        Russ & Daughters (takeout, busy on weekends), Katz's Deli (from When Harry Met Sally), Papaya King etc. (not gourmet but iconic), William Greenberg's black and whites, Junior's cheesecake, egg creams from Gem Spa or Ray's, Pickle Guys, the Halal Guys (53rd and 6th after sunset), are all iconic "NY" sorts of places that are worth a look.

        If you're interested in some of the places I listed above, you could do a LES food crawl. I highly recommend RGR's self guided Lower East Side Gustatory tour but sub in Pickle Guys for Guss' Pickles and note that Economy Candy's address is incorrect:

        Best NY style pizza:

        We also have some of the harder to find Chinese cuisines: Henan, Shaanxi (Xian Famous Foods) and Fuzhou in Manhattan, and many more in Queens and Brooklyn (Shangdong/Qingdao and Dongbei to name a few). scoopG's Chinatown list (dependent upon where you are coming from these may be exotic or not... most places don't have Henan or Xian style food though):

        You might also want to do a restaurant doing creative takes on Asian, like at Momofuku Ssam Bar, Wong, Fatty Cue, Takashi, RedFarm, Mission Chinese, Jungsik, Kin Shop, or Danji.

        My favorite unique places in NY serve Xian (Chinese) food, Issan (Thai) food, organic/local/sustainable Japanese BBQ, authentic Basque (Spanish) tapas, creative diner food, pretzels, hot dogs, halal food, steak, upscale rustic Italian, Italian subs, creative Italian-American, high end non-sushi Japanese (like kaiseki), creative desserts, molecular gastronomy, mixology/creative cocktails, and creative brunches (sometimes every day of the week).

        Some common tourist inquiries:

        Where to Eat Near Times Square:

        Where to Eat Near MoMA (the museum cafe is actually pretty good, as is the Modern next door):

        Where to Eat Near Museum Mile (Metropolitan Museum of Art, Whitney, Guggenheim, etc) on the UES:

        Where to Eat Near the Museum of Natural History on the UWS:

        Where to Eat Near Macy's/Herald Square/Penn Station/Empire State Building:

        Where to Eat Near Grand Central/Midtown East:

        Where to Eat in Soho:

        Where to Eat near 5th Avenue shopping / Bloomingdale's / Rockefeller Center:

        Where to have dinner before a Broadway show/pre-theatre dining (many of the same Times Square recs also apply):

        Where to Eat Near the 9/11 Memorial:

        Notable food trucks/carts:

        Prix fixe lunch deals:

        Best breakfast/brunch in NYC:
        It is (IMO) at the Breslin, Locanda Verde, Shopsin's, Clinton St Baking Co., or Minetta Tavern.

        Best bagels in NYC:
        Summary: the freshest bagels are the best; bagels don't age well at all. Focus on the smoked salmon instead. Preferably at Russ & Daughters! Featured in shows such as No Reservations and Louie!

        I'm fond of red onion, capers, regular cream cheese, and tomato on mine. Try a few smoked salmons before you settle on one, they're surprisingly different (and lox is not the same as smoked salmon, because lox is salmon cured in salt brine, and most people actually prefer the more modern, Nova-style smoked salmon). You can get a mini-sized bagel sandwich at Russ & Daughters, too, if you wish. Takeout only.

        If you like the idea of RGR's self-guided LES tour above, check these out, too.

        Maybe scoopG's self guided Chinatown tour:

        A West Village food crawl

        East Village: