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What DON'T you like in a sandwich?

EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 10:22 AM

After reading about people's perfect sandwiches, it seemed to me that several respondees were itching to write about what they don't want on their sandwich. Here's your platform.
For me, I don't like-
Boar's Head cold cuts (just don't understand the appeal, I think they taste gross)
Croissants (ditto not understanding the appeal)
Squishy bread
Miracle Whip
Ketchup except on hamburgers or hot dogs

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    Harters RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:12 AM

    There's little that I find worth eating that I wouldnt be happy eating on a sandwich. I'm not too keen on fruit sandwiches, although the classic banana is OK.

    That said, looking at your list, I dont think I'd like croissant or squishy bread in a sandwich - croissant between two pieces of bread would be just too much carb.

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    1. re: Harters
      Caroline1 RE: Harters Nov 3, 2013 11:33 AM

      LOL! No croissantwiches? Harters, you don't know what you're missing! '-)

      Or it could be the worse than that... You may have planted an idea for the fast food Industry...? Oh, woe!!!

      1. re: Caroline1
        alkapal RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 11:37 AM

        this one would kill harters and it is one of my faves: shrimp salad on a lightly toasted croissant.

        a toasted croissant is also delicious with the chicken salad made with curry powder, soy sauce, almonds, grapes and mayo. (oooh, can't wait for the gaggers to read that!!!!) http://www.pauladeen.com/recipes/reci... -- my fave chicken salad. try it before you diss it. really.

        1. re: alkapal
          c oliver RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 11:47 AM

          I don't particularly care for nuts and fruit in that kinda thing but the rest sounds fantastic! Do you toast your croissant under the broiler?

          1. re: c oliver
            sandylc RE: c oliver Nov 6, 2013 12:08 PM

            Oh, wow, I think that nuts and fruit put chicken salad over the top!

            1. re: sandylc
              c oliver RE: sandylc Nov 6, 2013 12:55 PM

              Except for pine nuts, I usually don't care for nuts and fruit in any salad.

            2. re: c oliver
              alkapal RE: c oliver Nov 6, 2013 12:48 PM

              i just use a toaster oven, but using its "broil" only feature would be maybe better.

            3. re: alkapal
              hill food RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 12:44 PM

              Alka - I thought I would hate that, I really did. but one day I had no choice (some office thing). and while I probably would never serve it, I wouldn't turn it down (OK I'd lose the almonds and sub-in apples or dried cranberries for the grapes)

              1. re: hill food
                alkapal RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 12:51 PM

                yes, the recipe is really flexible. the amazing thing is the curry soy mayo combo that is so savory and mysterious. the brightness of the fruit is a great contrast to that, and the nuts (and celery) just give some nice textural contrast.

                i'm wondering how moistened diced dried apricots might work in that, too.

                some recipes use pineapple chunks in there. i've seen countless variations of this online.

                1. re: alkapal
                  hill food RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 06:55 PM

                  apricots? eww go away, there's another for my shortlist and so are you.

                  banned from sandwiches = no sprouts, no apricots, no alkapal.

                  good luck with that eternal life/resurrection thing you were gunning for.

                  1. re: hill food
                    suzigirl RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 07:06 PM

                    Nothing personal alkapal, I dont want you on any of my sandwiches. Ever.

                    1. re: suzigirl
                      hill food RE: suzigirl Nov 6, 2013 07:20 PM

                      and I've heard she (he?) is in NO way Kosher OR Halal either...

                      organic? pfff.

                      1. re: hill food
                        suzigirl RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 07:27 PM

                        I neither keep kosher or halal but human is where I have my cutoff. Even if alkapal is a "tasty morsel". :-)

                        1. re: suzigirl
                          hill food RE: suzigirl Nov 6, 2013 07:51 PM

                          I hope we're not upsetting alka, as I have no clear idea of location, yeah sure NoVa, but that can mean so many things and where do you draw the line? Dulles? Fredericksburg? Staunton? ehh I'm not even around there these days and anyway we both said "alkas are off my list" (apologies to classic Warner Brother's cartoons)

              2. re: alkapal
                sr44 RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 09:29 PM

                I made a chicken salad with grapes and yogurt from a Nina Simonds recipe with the thought I could draw on it over a week or so. Well, as the week progressed, the chicken got fuzzier and fuzzier, a really strange sensation I attribute to the yogurt.

              3. re: Caroline1
                drongo RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 04:40 PM

                I think he means croissant as the filling in a sandwich not as the outside layer.

              4. re: Harters
                seamunky RE: Harters Nov 4, 2013 01:17 PM

                So Harters, no Toast sandwiches for you?


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                Tara57 RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:14 AM

                sweet pickles
                mayonnaise on a hot sandwich

                1. Caroline1 RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:24 AM

                  For me, it's pretty simple. I do not want raw onion in ANY form on any sandwich, be it sliced on a hamburger or diced or chopped in a chicken or tuna salad. NO RAW ONION...! Raw onions give me the heeby jeebies!

                  Oh, and no egg shell in my egg salad. Mostly basic stuff like that.

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                  1. re: Caroline1
                    JerryMe RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 11:35 AM

                    Copy that Caroline1 - I pick that $hit out.

                    1. re: JerryMe
                      miss_belle RE: JerryMe Nov 3, 2013 04:11 PM

                      You can pick it out of a chicken/tuna salad or take it off a burger/sandwich all you want to but that onion flavor still remains. It permeates everything it touches. And yet so many people don't understand the aversion that some of us have to raw onion. But to each their own:-)

                      1. re: miss_belle
                        JerryMe RE: miss_belle Nov 3, 2013 04:27 PM

                        True enough, Miss Belle - On those occasions, I just chew and swallow.

                        On more than one occasion, I've found myself, to my chagrin, reaching (disgustingly) into my mouth and pulling out a string of onion, mid-chew, before I gagged on it.

                    2. re: Caroline1
                      EWSflash RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 11:46 AM

                      One thing that really frosts me- on the rare occasion that I get a Sausage Egg McMuffin, when the very last bite has a piece of eggshell in it. I go into a rage (at least in my own mind)

                      1. re: EWSflash
                        Cachetes RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 04:17 PM

                        I had an Egg McMuffin this past summer for the first time in maybe 15 years. I got an egg shell, and stated with some excitement, "Oh, wow, it's real egg!" My friend simply replied, "What the hell did you think it was?" I guess if the bar is set low enough, it doesn't take much to get over it.

                      2. re: Caroline1
                        c oliver RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 05:12 PM

                        C1, do you put raw onion in anything?

                        1. re: c oliver
                          Caroline1 RE: c oliver Nov 3, 2013 05:30 PM

                          Yes, but ALWAYS just before I cook it! '-)

                          It's the result of a tawdry childhood tale of abuse that was a result of my insatiable curiosity! When I was around 3 (1936), I noticed that ALL of the adults in the family lied to each other like mad, yet if I told the teensiest weensiest lie, ALL of the adults in the family were all over me! Soooo... I tried very hard to teach myself how to lie successfully. After all, logic said there had to be a trick to it! If adults could do it and no one knew they were lying, what did adults know that I didn't? Was it holding your mouth just right? Was it some sort of magic thought you held in your mind while you were lying? Was it crossing your fingers behind your back? (an old childhood trick that NEVER works!)

                          Anyway, I was threatened. If I didn't stop telling lies, my mother would wash my mouth out with soap! I didn't stop and so she did. With a bar of Ivory soap! And then she caught me in the bathtub washing my own mouth out with Ivory just so I could blow bubbles! Sooooooooo..... After that, she "washed" my mouth out with raw onions, head over toilet until I gagged. I think I was around 35 or so before I could bite into a hidden raw onion without gagging...

                          So I only put raw onions in food just prior to cooking. BUT...! If I can have a hamburger with GRILLED onions on it, I'm there! '-)

                          More than anyone ever wanted to know, right? <sigh> Be careful what you do to your kids...

                          1. re: Caroline1
                            suzigirl RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 05:38 PM

                            Shudder. I am speachless.

                            1. re: suzigirl
                              Caroline1 RE: suzigirl Nov 3, 2013 05:45 PM

                              Truth is in the mid-1930's, "Spare the rod and spoil the child" was the mantra of most middle class American homes. "Child abuse" was not in the vocabulary. Thankfully, times have changed. My mother was not a wicked woman. She just wasn't very bright when it came to figuring these things out for herself when she had me at age 19! '-)

                              1. re: Caroline1
                                suzigirl RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 05:54 PM

                                I was brought up with parents who did unconventional discipline like standing in the corner with plates held in your hands straight out to your sides with a whack administered every time your arms dropped past the straight out position and the onion treatment still makes me cringe.

                                1. re: suzigirl
                                  EWSflash RE: suzigirl Nov 3, 2013 06:25 PM

                                  Sadly, my parents subscribed to the same mantra, even though it was the '50s and '60s. They were both from dysfunctional midwestern families. And drunk a lot and angry a lot. But I never got punished with onion-eating, fortunately.

                                  1. re: suzigirl
                                    Caroline1 RE: suzigirl Nov 3, 2013 06:31 PM

                                    I think a lot of such "punishments" came as a result of GIs returning from WWII, and adopting techniques they heard about from prisoners of war. My father (active duty US Navy for 20 years, including WWII) used to make me stand in a corner with arms outstretched with pennies on the palms of my hands, then tell me how much heavier they were getting, and I'd bet smacked if my arms dragged when I was in 5th grade for refusing to memorize my multiplication tables. WHy should I? The State of California printed them on the back of every composition book we were given in school, so why should I waste my time! Thankfully, he spent five years at sea during my early childhood! The only time I ever saw him cry was when he returned from the war, hid behind a door to surprise me, but it was NO surprise! I didn't have any idea who he was. "Hello. Are you a friend of my daddy?"

                                    Bedfellows or not, there is strangeness of war... '-)

                                    1. re: Caroline1
                                      suzigirl RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 07:50 PM

                                      Strangeness of war or twisted is subjective. My dad never went to war, nor his father. Standing a child in the corner, arms outstretched with any weight isn't discipline, it is sick. I was subjected to nutty "discipline" as a kid but this is about food. Lets not compare our war stories. Here's to good food and no raw onions. :-)

                                      1. re: suzigirl
                                        Caroline1 RE: suzigirl Nov 3, 2013 08:15 PM

                                        A little cultural literacy along with our food can be a very healthy thing! '-)

                                        1. re: suzigirl
                                          John E. RE: suzigirl Nov 4, 2013 11:37 AM

                                          I remember having to balance a text book on my head while standing in the corner of the classroom. Man, that was one tough college professor!

                                          Actually, I think I was in the second grade. The teacher didn't want us to go into dreamland while we were being punished. We could however hang onto the book with one hand.

                                          1. re: suzigirl
                                            ErnieD RE: suzigirl Nov 5, 2013 10:38 PM

                                            Here's to good food food and raw onions if you want them but none if you don't (or peas if you want them and none if you don't, my dad has a rough kindergarten story about them and has never been able to fully recover). I can't believe some of the cruelty we perpetuate on our children surrounding food, and most of it is perfectly well intentioned.

                                          2. re: Caroline1
                                            rainey RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 08:46 PM

                                            Maybe. My father was a WWII veteran and I was born after his return. He sorta lacked boundaries and would have me stand in a corner for an ungodly time until I lost my sense of balance. But the serious punishment came from my mother who put red chili flakes up my nose.

                                            My mother wasn't a combatant. Just a natural born sadist. So I'm not sure how the war experience factors in.

                                            1. re: rainey
                                              c oliver RE: rainey Nov 3, 2013 08:51 PM

                                              Wow. The things we learn. Sadist indeed :( I hope you're alright today.

                                              1. re: rainey
                                                Caroline1 RE: rainey Nov 3, 2013 11:28 PM

                                                Another one who didn't fill out his profile page! So I don't really know if you're a he or a she or if you're from the moon! '-)

                                                But seriously, one of the things that people need to keep in mind is that ANYONE who was ALIVE in 1981 or earlier was NOT well informed about things that are "common knowledge" today. 1981 is when the World Wide Web was invented at CERN by a really nice guy named Tim Berbers Lee, and you can meet him here:

                                                The further back you go in time -- even a few years -- the less people knew about things like psychology, abuse, whatever. Why? Because the internet has made ALL information available to ANYONE who knows how to read and has a computer!

                                                So if you're over age 15 or so, keep in mind that your parents very likely had never heard of child abuse. When I was born in the 1930s, "Spoil the rod and spare the child" truly was the mantra of parenthood.

                                                There's a big discussion going on in "scientific circles" right now about why people are smarter now, because their "scientific evidence" shows that each successive generation is scoring higher on their SATs...! LOL LOL LOL OF COURSE THEY ARE...!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT....!!! WHEN was the last time you saw the SAT score of Shakespear, or Plato, or Einstein, for that matter? New yardsticks don't always work for the past.

                                                I truly don't believe people have changed that much. There were really smart people 4,ooo years ago, and there are really smart people today. there were really dumb people 4,000 years ago, and there are really dumb people today. The thing that IS different, is we have computers and the web and access to information that was VERY expensive, because for the last several hundred years or so, you had to be able to afford a Ph.D. to access it. Do you have ANY idea how much a freaking Ph.D. costs? Point made! '-


                                                So.... My point is that what I and others may have suffered at the hands of our parents was often not child abuse in the true sense, but simply "the fashion of the day."

                                                I hope everyone who needs to read this does it tonight, because the mods will probably delete it. It doesn't have much to do with food directly, but then again it does because it seriously has to do with people and ALL people eat! I'll cross my fingers it stays at least for a day or two.... :-)

                                                1. re: Caroline1
                                                  sandylc RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 10:24 AM

                                                  You have interesting points, Caroline. I might add that even books were not terribly accessible to the masses until relatively recently. Again, this doesn't mean people were stupid; actually it means that people had to be resourceful and figure things out for themselves - a skill that I hope we aren't losing!

                                                  I'll bring it back to cooking - cooking with internet access is great because EVERYONE has something to contribute and yet we can also easily refer to experts, as well. It is both creative and intellectual. The squashing of creativity in the US hasn't invaded the culinary arts!

                                                  1. re: Caroline1
                                                    ErnieD RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 10:52 PM

                                                    I like a lot of your points, but--if you're over 15 your parents never heard of child abuse? I'm 35 and my parents are definitely aware of it. Hell, my stepson is 19 and both his dad and myself were steeped with stories about it in school and after school specials. There are a lot of things that were done that should not have been when we were growing up, but even spanking was already a big discussion in '78 when I was born, and my parents managed to to aware of it without the internet.

                                                    1. re: ErnieD
                                                      hill food RE: ErnieD Nov 5, 2013 11:17 PM

                                                      ErnieD - oh Grasshopper, you have so much to discover.

                                                2. re: Caroline1
                                                  EWSflash RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 06:55 PM

                                                  Wow. Thanks for sharing that, Caroline.

                                          3. re: Caroline1
                                            c oliver RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 05:44 PM

                                            Wow. Isn't it interesting that she probably didn't know she was committing child abuse :(

                                            1. re: c oliver
                                              Caroline1 RE: c oliver Nov 3, 2013 06:32 PM

                                              No clue!

                                            2. re: Caroline1
                                              hill food RE: Caroline1 Nov 3, 2013 05:51 PM

                                              same here C1 - but I became a good liar. and a tight-mouthed person (ok maybe not online, just in person - does that make me a sociopath?).

                                              "I know how to be shutting up"

                                              1. re: hill food
                                                Cachetes RE: hill food Nov 3, 2013 06:30 PM

                                                Nope, just a survivor.

                                                1. re: Cachetes
                                                  hill food RE: Cachetes Nov 3, 2013 06:34 PM

                                                  heh. I got away with murder back then. (OK not literally, although I did have tentative ideas in place while I was still a juvenile that I never used - too late now)

                                                  EWS - mine were just angry and depressed as best I could tell.

                                              2. re: Caroline1
                                                Puffin3 RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 04:39 AM

                                                But did you perfect the art of lying? LOL

                                                1. re: Puffin3
                                                  Caroline1 RE: Puffin3 Nov 4, 2013 04:54 AM

                                                  Not yet... '-)

                                                  1. re: Caroline1
                                                    Veggo RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 05:13 AM

                                                    Caroline darlin', you can practice by saying nice things about me...:)

                                                    1. re: Veggo
                                                      Caroline1 RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 10:57 AM

                                                      LOL! Droll......! VERY droll! '-)

                                                    2. re: Caroline1
                                                      hill food RE: Caroline1 Nov 7, 2013 04:58 PM

                                                      oh I have nuggets saved up for later use. but even I don't like to make people cry.

                                                      1. re: hill food
                                                        Caroline1 RE: hill food Nov 7, 2013 10:57 PM

                                                        As long as you can hand us each a Kleenex, why not?

                                                        1. re: Caroline1
                                                          sandylc RE: Caroline1 Nov 8, 2013 01:09 PM

                                                          I was raised by a MAJOR liar - the price she has paid is that now she no longer is able to differentiate truth from lies, nor does she seem able to tell the truth at all, not even about the weather or the color of something...not at all - !! Also, few who have known her for longer than about 10 minutes believe anything she says.

                                                          This is sad; hopefully both cooking/recipes and character improve with each generation - I am trying to do my part here by being a better cook/truth-teller than my mother, and by teaching my kid to be smarter and better and a better cook than I.

                                                          There, brought it back to food. ;-)

                                                  2. re: Caroline1
                                                    mwk RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 02:59 PM

                                                    LOL. The last office I worked in, it turned out that two people had grown up with the same "comfort food" sandwich that their moms would make: A slice of raw onion between two slices of individually-wrapped Kraft cheese (out of the plastic of course), contained in two slices of Wonder Bread, slathered with Miracle Whip.

                                                    After all the groans had died down, in order to prove how delicious this concoction was, they brought in the ingredients and made these sandwiches one day for lunch, for anyone brave enough to try them. I had 1/4 of one to try. It was as vile as I had imagined. I think it mostly was the Miracle Whip. Not a fan...

                                                2. re: Caroline1
                                                  Chemicalkinetics RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 05:07 AM

                                                  I dislike raw onion. Whenever I get it in my burgers, I just tell myself "You can do it. This is a test of character. Eat it, and Man up"

                                                  This is how much I dislike it.

                                                  1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                    Caroline1 RE: Chemicalkinetics Nov 4, 2013 11:21 AM

                                                    Well, the strange thing for me is that I LOVE the tiny little McDonald's hamburgers that traditionally come in a Kids Meal. The ones with the tiny little cubes of "raw" onion in them with about a half teaspoon of ketchup and a quarter tsp of mustard and ONE pickle slice in the bun with the burger. That is the ONLY McDonald's burger that has those specific type of onions in that fine a dice. BUT...!!! They NEVER make me gag OR burn my tongue.... And I LOVE them!

                                                    So now I'm wondering if it isn't some sort of diced onion that has been "treated" in some way (pickled, brined, marinated, whatever) that makes them different from all other "raw onions on a burger" in the whole wide world?

                                                    Does anybody here know???? I'd sure hate to have to buy a damned McDonald's franchise to find out! (Not that I ever would under any circumstance!) '-)

                                                    1. re: Caroline1
                                                      rainey RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 11:24 AM

                                                      I think you're right. They're brined or something to make them just a little limp and take all the assertion out of them.

                                                      When my daughter was in preschool the teacher did a lot of cooking with the kids. She always soaked onion in milk when a recipe called for raw onion.

                                                      1. re: Caroline1
                                                        Chemicalkinetics RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 11:26 AM

                                                        < BUT...!!! They NEVER make me gag OR burn my tongue>

                                                        Now that you mentioned it. Same here. I wonder if those are really raw onions, or are they slightly blanched (cooked).

                                                        Alternatively, maybe they are diced so fine, that the heat from the burger patty cook/steam the diced onion.

                                                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                          LotusRapper RE: Chemicalkinetics Nov 4, 2013 11:38 AM

                                                          Maybe they're reconstituted onions made from powdered onions, formed into tiny cubes under extremely high pressures, in some mega agri-industrial complex near Area 51 ...... ;-)

                                                          1. re: LotusRapper
                                                            Caroline1 RE: LotusRapper Nov 4, 2013 03:34 PM

                                                            lol! Area 51 keeps following me around! '-)

                                                            I don't believe they're rehydrated, or if they are, they're not rehydrated Tone's (dehydrated) Minced Onion, because they rehydrate to taste and smell like raw onions!

                                                            I guess I'm going to have to experiment... My guess is that they may simply be "brined," as in diced, buried in salt so they sweat off their malodorous painful taste bud attacking agents, then rinsed clean...? They're certainly not pickled in the traditional sense, because they have no extra acidic flavor such as pickled foods get from vinegar or lemon, nor are they marinated, for the same reason... hmmmmm.... "Curiouser and curiouser!" cried Alice.

                                                            1. re: Caroline1
                                                              LotusRapper RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 04:10 PM

                                                              Only things I eat at McD (like 3 times a year ?) are the soft ice cream cone and apple pies ..... cheap happy foods ;-)

                                                              For the most basic fast-food burgers, I like Wendy's value meal burger (w/o the cheese) which comes with real red onion, lettuce, slice of pickle, tomato and a square patty the size of a large postal stamp:


                                                              Heads & shoulders better than other major FF chains' bottom-rung burgers at the same pricepoint.

                                                              1. re: Caroline1
                                                                KaimukiMan RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 01:49 AM

                                                                i think its just the fact that they were frozen then thawed.

                                                                1. re: KaimukiMan
                                                                  Caroline1 RE: KaimukiMan Nov 5, 2013 12:46 PM

                                                                  hmmmmm... I'll have to pick up a bag of frozen chopped onions and check out your hunch...? We'll see!

                                                                  1. re: Caroline1
                                                                    sandylc RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 01:18 PM

                                                                    When preparing raw onions for Mexican food (to be served with cilantro), it's recommended to take the "bite" out of them by soaking the chopped onions in cold water for a bit.

                                                                    1. re: sandylc
                                                                      Caroline1 RE: sandylc Nov 5, 2013 01:52 PM


                                                            2. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                              John E. RE: Chemicalkinetics Nov 4, 2013 11:50 AM

                                                              I used to think those McDonald onions were dehydrated and then re-hydrated. However, that seems like an extra step that would not be efficient.

                                                              There must be somebody with McDonald's experience who could tell us about this.

                                                              1. re: John E.
                                                                Chemicalkinetics RE: John E. Nov 4, 2013 12:04 PM

                                                                <There must be somebody with McDonald's experience who could tell us about this.>

                                                                Don't you think these former employee may disappear if they reveal the secrets?

                                                                1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                                  LotusRapper RE: Chemicalkinetics Nov 4, 2013 12:16 PM

                                                                  [Middle of the night, dog barking in distance]: "Knock, knock ...... "

                                                                2. re: John E.
                                                                  miss_belle RE: John E. Nov 4, 2013 12:30 PM

                                                                  Here is what one guy has to say on the subject.

                                                                  Tom McMahon: Make Your Own McDonalds Hamburger Onions
                                                                  Jul 6, 2004 - Make Your Own McDonalds Hamburger Onions. Another ... McDonald's little baby onions. ... It's the best time to make some plans for the future and it's time to be happy.

                                                                  1. re: John E.
                                                                    JerryMe RE: John E. Nov 4, 2013 12:33 PM

                                                                    I think they are dehydrated and re-hydrated when the burger mixture is made. It's not an expensive, extra step when you consider the volume that McD's makes.

                                                                    And in my opinion, they (the onions on McD's burgers) still suck. I always request, on the rare occasion I get one, NO onion!

                                                                    1. re: JerryMe
                                                                      John E. RE: JerryMe Nov 4, 2013 12:56 PM

                                                                      I'm not much of a McDonald's consumer these days, but I'm fairly certain not all of their onions are the tiny diced, rehydrated variety. I am quite sure they have other kinds of raw onions that go on their burgers, but I cannot be certain.

                                                                  2. re: Chemicalkinetics
                                                                    Ttrockwood RE: Chemicalkinetics Nov 6, 2013 06:23 PM

                                                                    I'm fairyly certain they are defrosted frozen, and thats how they get the mooshy tastless "charm"

                                                                  3. re: Caroline1
                                                                    EWSflash RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 07:05 PM

                                                                    When my son was a little shaver I'd pick him up at the day care that was kittycorner across the street from work and go through the Burger King drive-through right next door and get him a cheeseburger and me an iced tea. I would ask for a bite, and always tried to get the pickle in my bite. Cruel, I know, but at first he didn't like pickles, then he grew to dislike me depriving him of his pickle more, and protested loudly. Then we changed day care. :-) Not because of that, but because he got too old for the previous place, and the BK on the way home from there was really not up to par. So we didn't go there, besides, it was closer to home and more nutritious snacks.
                                                                    Oh- but what I meant to say, Caroline, was that I totally remember the kiddie McD- kind of like the White Castles, with their tiny diced onions. I think the original McD's burgers had those tiny dice onions on them- not offensively strong at all for whatever reason. Just there because ______ fill in the blank

                                                                    1. re: Caroline1
                                                                      pie22 RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 01:27 PM

                                                                      i worked in mcdonalds as a teen, the onions were cut up and shipped to the stores in bags, they did need to be rehydrated in some form but they were in a little liquid to start with, most likely just water to take the bite off.

                                                                      1. re: pie22
                                                                        Caroline1 RE: pie22 Nov 5, 2013 01:55 PM

                                                                        TaDAAAH! You guys appear to win by a landslide! But who knew it could be that simple? Still in all, I think I'll try it on a hired taster before I use my own taste buds, just in case... '-)

                                                                      2. re: Caroline1
                                                                        alkapal RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 11:30 AM

                                                                        i love those soft small diced/minced onions, too -- so whenever i get a mcdouble for a late snack, i ask for extra pickle and onions.

                                                                        i think they must have been soaked a bit -- maybe just in cold water -- to get that "raw" bite out of them, though.

                                                                        1. re: alkapal
                                                                          Caroline1 RE: alkapal Nov 8, 2013 06:46 PM

                                                                          No, no, no, no! The onions I'm talking about ONLY come on the "single" hamburger that used to only option available in a Happy Meal. They're no sliced. In traditional culinary terms they're a "bronoise" of onion, very uniform in small dice. I've asked for them on McDonald's burgers other than the burger that was standard in Happy Meals for years, but I've been told in California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Massachusetts, and Texas that it is not possible!

                                                                          Meantime, anybody know where I can buy dehydrated bronoise of onion?????? '-)

                                                                          1. re: Caroline1
                                                                            EWSflash RE: Caroline1 Nov 8, 2013 07:15 PM

                                                                            I know the exact tiny dice you're talking about. They're on the gross little frozen White Castle burgers, too.

                                                                            1. re: EWSflash
                                                                              Caroline1 RE: EWSflash Nov 8, 2013 08:05 PM

                                                                              But are they "oniony"? The ones at McDonald's are not, and that's what I love about them because raw onions make me gag BIG TIME! But I'll drive ten miles out of my way for a McDonald's hb with those little raw diced onions that DO NOT make me gag!

                                                                              Weird, huh?

                                                                              1. re: Caroline1
                                                                                mwhitmore RE: Caroline1 Nov 8, 2013 08:19 PM

                                                                                Caroline: Note that they are *not* raw. Rather, dried, reconstituted, grilled a little. I *think* they are the same dried onions you can get in the spice rack, McCormicks etc.

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                                                                                  EWSflash RE: Caroline1 Nov 9, 2013 09:53 AM

                                                                                  No, they're very mild

                                                                                  1. re: EWSflash
                                                                                    Caroline1 RE: EWSflash Nov 9, 2013 11:03 AM

                                                                                    hmmm... The ONLY "White Castle" hamburgers I've ever had were in a box, frozen, and sold at Sam's Club. I bought one box about three years ago and did not like them. Are those frozen versions good representations of what a "White Castle" burger would taste like if there were White Castle restaurants in my area and I could buy them fresh? I don't remember onions at all, but as I said, it was at least three years ago.

                                                                                    And I'm sorry that I seem to have side-tracked your thread, because really good "sammiches" is a GREAT topic! '-)

                                                                                    1. re: Caroline1
                                                                                      hill food RE: Caroline1 Nov 9, 2013 08:01 PM

                                                                                      C1 - the frozen White Castle is most definitely NOT a good representation unless you grew up with it and nothing else will do. if not the same onions, they are darn close. my cousin and I used to rip open the little cartons to get at the onions that slipped out of the bun like an oreo's creme filling.

                                                                                      heck 5-10 minutes out of the kitchen and they verge on disgusting. and I once loved them, yet still need an annual fix of one or 2 (clerk always looks at me weird) but I make it by a location a few times a year.

                                                                                      1. re: hill food
                                                                                        Caroline1 RE: hill food Nov 9, 2013 09:51 PM

                                                                                        Well yeah. For all of my haute cuisine proclivities and love of fancy schmancy cooking, every once in a while I just gotta have a truly crappy Jack In The Box taco... WORST tacos on the planet, but.... "There's no accounting for taste," said Mrs. Murphy as she kissed the cow.

                                                                              2. re: Caroline1
                                                                                LotusRapper RE: Caroline1 Nov 8, 2013 09:21 PM

                                                                                Here ............


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                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: LotusRapper Nov 9, 2013 07:54 PM

                                                                                  LotusRapper, YOU are a genius! That's it! TRUE vintage McDonald's, with the bronoise of onion, a bit of ketchup, "a little dab will do ya" of mustard, and ONE dill pickle slice!

                                                                                  My taste buds are t-t-t-twitching...!!!!!! :-)

                                                                                  1. re: Caroline1
                                                                                    LotusRapper RE: Caroline1 Nov 9, 2013 09:25 PM

                                                                                    Are we (Chowhounders) *really* talking about (and craving) McD food ???

                                                                                    I guess we're all human ;-)

                                                                                    Like I said before, I have a weakness for Wendy's burgers.

                                                                                    1. re: Caroline1
                                                                                      LotusRapper RE: Caroline1 Nov 9, 2013 09:26 PM

                                                                                      Here's the site, C1:


                                                                                      1. re: LotusRapper
                                                                                        Caroline1 RE: LotusRapper Nov 9, 2013 10:00 PM

                                                                                        LOL! Funny! Is that your personal experiment, and if so, did Newton have lunch or are things still in count-down mode waiting for mold to set in? If it's not your test, does anyone know the result? I LOVE people with quirky imaginations... '-)

                                                                                        As a further aside, I *DO* like your taste in cars! (vrooooom! vrooooom!)

                                                                                        1. re: Caroline1
                                                                                          LotusRapper RE: Caroline1 Nov 9, 2013 10:49 PM

                                                                                          Nope, not my own experiment. That kinda grosses me out thinking about it, doh !

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                                                                                    alkapal RE: Caroline1 Nov 9, 2013 06:51 PM

                                                                                    i didn't say sliced, and i am talking about a mince finer than brunoise. that is what is on a mcdouble. i don't know about happy meal burgers.
                                                                                    by the way, OT, mickey d's has raised the mcdouble to 1.19 -- off the dollar menu, but has added two other new types of burgers to that dollar menu.

                                                                                2. re: Caroline1
                                                                                  mwhitmore RE: Caroline1 Nov 8, 2013 01:18 PM

                                                                                  When I worked there 40 years ago, they were dried onions, put on the raw side of the cooking burgers, then when the burgers were flipped, they reconstituted in the grease and juice.

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                                                                                    mwhitmore RE: mwhitmore Nov 8, 2013 08:14 PM


                                                                            2. Monica RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:28 AM

                                                                              Some delis put shredded lettuce. I hate that! But then I am not a big fan of lettuce in my sandwich but I do like water cress in certain sandwich. I also hate kaiser rolls. ..The boring deli kind. I also don't get what's so great about boars head cold cuts too. They always look very processed and gross. I am not a big fan of egg sandwich either. ..doesn't feel right.

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                                                                                Kontxesi RE: Monica Nov 6, 2013 12:14 PM

                                                                                That drives me crazy. Along the same lines, diced onions as opposed to sliced. They just fall off!

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                                                                                youareabunny RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:29 AM

                                                                                Croissants are great panini style, or breakfast style soaked in egg and pan fried

                                                                                I don't like --
                                                                                Too much mayonnaise, thin film is fine

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                                                                                  EWSflash RE: youareabunny Nov 6, 2013 05:32 PM

                                                                                  Only if you like the taste, and I don't. No idea why.

                                                                                2. melpy RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:36 AM

                                                                                  No hard boiled eggs!

                                                                                  1. Uncle Bob RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:36 AM

                                                                                    I'm kinda flexible, except when it comes to Miracle Whip. Gag, Gag, Gag!!!!

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                                                                                      alkapal RE: Uncle Bob Nov 6, 2013 11:28 AM

                                                                                      oh uncle bob, i thought we saw eye to eye all the time. LOL

                                                                                    2. SaraAshley RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:47 AM

                                                                                      Miracle whip and Mayo are the 2 that stand out to me most. I don't like Balogne or cheap white wonder bread type bread. I personally love croissants and as a result, will eat almost any sandwich that comes on them. I once saw on a restaurant menu a salmon sandwich that came on a croissant. The only thing that excited me about this was the croissant, so when I tried to order it and was told they were out of croissants and I would have to choose a different bread, I changed my order.

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                                                                                        fldhkybnva RE: SaraAshley Nov 3, 2013 12:05 PM

                                                                                        I'm with you on the mayo. Unless it's a very thin smear of aioli, leave the mayo off my sandwich.

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                                                                                        FoodPopulist RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:49 AM

                                                                                        Dill pickles. On or next to a sandwich.

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                                                                                          c oliver RE: FoodPopulist Nov 3, 2013 05:14 PM

                                                                                          Yes. By not on.

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                                                                                          rainey RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 11:55 AM

                                                                                          Amen on the Miracle Whip! Gack! Why does it even still exist? And why bother making a sandwich if it isn't on some kind of good bread?

                                                                                          Other than that, sliced raw onion is a no-no for me. Grilled onion? Oh yes! Caramelized onions? You betcha! But I only want raw onion if it's finely minced and part of a salad like tuna.

                                                                                          Pretty much anything else works with me depending on what else is in the mix.

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                                                                                            ultimatepotato RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 12:04 PM

                                                                                            Raw tomato.
                                                                                            Reformed, pressed together "ham" or luncheon meat ( I think it's the NZ equivalent of baloney).
                                                                                            Coronation chicken.
                                                                                            Butter or marg, if the filling already has mayo, mustard, relish enough to dress the fillings.

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                                                                                              klyeoh RE: ultimatepotato Nov 4, 2013 06:08 AM

                                                                                              +1 on the raw tomatoes.

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                                                                                                JerryMe RE: klyeoh Nov 4, 2013 12:34 PM

                                                                                                DS is the same way - I'll offer my onion for his raw tomato and he's said that the tomato infiltrates the entire sandwich and ruins it.

                                                                                              2. re: ultimatepotato
                                                                                                Kontxesi RE: ultimatepotato Nov 6, 2013 12:15 PM

                                                                                                Raw tomato, definitely. I don't like them AT ALL, really, but I'm working on it.

                                                                                              3. biondanonima RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 12:05 PM

                                                                                                Raw tomatoes, Miracle Whip, ketchup (on anything, ew) and anything cold (lettuce, tomato, raw onion, etc.) on a hot sandwich.

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                                                                                                  mwhitmore RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 12:10 PM

                                                                                                  Mayo or certainly Miracle Whip. Sweet pickles or relish. Cold pickles on hot sandwiches, including burgers. Although hot dogs are, strangely, fine. Don't know Boar's Head, is that a brand name?

                                                                                                  1. foodieX2 RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 12:13 PM

                                                                                                    raw onion
                                                                                                    out of season tomatoes
                                                                                                    shredded lettuce (or for that matter any "old/slimy" lettuce)
                                                                                                    well done/overcooked roast beef
                                                                                                    processed deli meats

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                                                                                                      FriedClamFanatic RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 12:16 PM

                                                                                                      Miracle Whip and pickles...no use for the former.the latter should never come in contact with bread or meat before it hits my stomach

                                                                                                      1. linguafood RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 12:43 PM

                                                                                                        Floppy bread. Don't ever serve me a sammich with floppy / untoasted bread.

                                                                                                        An inch of margarine or butter. Gross.

                                                                                                        Anything sweet. 't ain't dessert.

                                                                                                        1. suzigirl RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 12:53 PM

                                                                                                          underripe tomatoes, onion, soft lettuce like red leaf, honey mustard(eek) and over dressed no matter the sauce. I am not a fan of the drippy sandwiches. I am sure many will disagree.

                                                                                                          1. bagelman01 RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 01:11 PM

                                                                                                            White Bread

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                                                                                                              c oliver RE: bagelman01 Nov 3, 2013 05:15 PM

                                                                                                              So do you like any kind of "spread" on a sandwich?

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                                                                                                                bagelman01 RE: c oliver Nov 4, 2013 05:53 AM

                                                                                                                NO spreads..................
                                                                                                                Meat, and depending on whether hot or cold:
                                                                                                                Cold meats: Lettuce, Pickle
                                                                                                                Hot Deli meats or brisket: Cole slaw or sauerkraut

                                                                                                                Chopped Liver: toasted caraway seeded rye, with a shmear of home made chicken fat, red onion and leaf lettuce...
                                                                                                                BTW, my cholesterol is low and my BP is 114/60....not bad for a 60ish carnivore who's a tad overweight

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                                                                                                              Hobbert RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 01:12 PM

                                                                                                              Pickles and Miracle Whip. Ugh.

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                                                                                                                JerryMe RE: Hobbert Nov 3, 2013 04:29 PM

                                                                                                                Bwaa, haa, haa! Pickles and MW on wonder bread used to be my sandwich of choice!

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                                                                                                                  alkapal RE: JerryMe Nov 6, 2013 11:27 AM

                                                                                                                  add some sliced ham, and i could share your sandwich, jerryme.

                                                                                                              2. 512window RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 02:01 PM

                                                                                                                Roasted peppers - they just make the whole inside of the sandwich slide around. And I don't like the flavor.

                                                                                                                Raw onions! The gift that keeps giving.

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                                                                                                                  c oliver RE: 512window Nov 3, 2013 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                  I go along with roasted peppers but, for me, it's cause they overwhelm the other flavors. Actually I'm kinda 'over' them generally.

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                                                                                                                    512window RE: c oliver Nov 4, 2013 10:44 AM

                                                                                                                    I was never "on" them, but really dislike them in a sandwich. I can usually pick them out of other dishes.

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                                                                                                                  autumm RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 02:07 PM

                                                                                                                  miracle whip.
                                                                                                                  More than a thin smear of mayo

                                                                                                                  1. mrbigshotno.1 RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 02:21 PM

                                                                                                                    I don't like:
                                                                                                                    cheese on cold sandwiches
                                                                                                                    miracle whip
                                                                                                                    P&P loaf
                                                                                                                    Theres a big fad with nutella, yuck!
                                                                                                                    most cold sandwiches without a Jalepeno or yellow chile on the side.

                                                                                                                    1. tim irvine RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 02:28 PM

                                                                                                                      No slimy vegetables, of course. No Nutella. I like most things in sandwiches, but my big gripe is when a sandwich is "out of balance." There are plenty of great combinations that just don't work if the proportions are wrong, like who wants a 1-1 or even a 2-1 EVOO and red wine vinegar salad dressing, but a 3-1 with good ingredients will work (just not too much of it).

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                                                                                                                        EWSflash RE: tim irvine Nov 6, 2013 05:39 PM

                                                                                                                        Oh gods, I really dislike Nutella, and everything else that tastes like hazelnuts. The only nut I don't like besides brazil nuts.

                                                                                                                        1. re: EWSflash
                                                                                                                          John E. RE: EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 09:21 PM

                                                                                                                          I mostly only taste the chocolate in the Nutella. We bought a jar a long time ago and it ended up going rancid/stale in the cupboard. We don't eat much toast with jam, peanut butter, or Nutella. However, when I made the Nutella crepes, the crowd asked for a repeat, and soon. Sunday brunch at home can be a lot of fun if the 'crowd' (you know what I mean) are not bickering and are enjoying one another's company. I long to see it more often.

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                                                                                                                        wonderwoman RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 02:36 PM

                                                                                                                        pickles, roasted red peppers, miracle whip.

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                                                                                                                          thedryer RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 02:55 PM

                                                                                                                          Bean sprouts
                                                                                                                          Shredded lettuce
                                                                                                                          Green peppers
                                                                                                                          Unripe tomatoes
                                                                                                                          Russian dressing
                                                                                                                          Brown mustard

                                                                                                                          Fun thread!

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                                                                                                                            linguafood RE: thedryer Nov 3, 2013 02:58 PM

                                                                                                                            Funny - your top three is my top three in the "like" category.

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                                                                                                                              EWSflash RE: thedryer Nov 3, 2013 06:27 PM

                                                                                                                              Dang- that sounds like a good sandwich to me!

                                                                                                                            2. chartreauxx RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 02:59 PM

                                                                                                                              iceberg lettuce in any form, globs of mayo, miracle whip, almost all "special sauces", bologna, roast beef, potato salad (thanks japan), yakisoba (again, thanks japan...), pepperjack cheese... there might be more but that's all that comes to mind...

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                                                                                                                                PotatoHouse RE: chartreauxx Nov 3, 2013 03:22 PM

                                                                                                                                Yakisoba sandwich?? I guess there are things that a gaijin prowling the back alleys of Chinatown misses out on....

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                                                                                                                                  chartreauxx RE: PotatoHouse Nov 3, 2013 03:31 PM

                                                                                                                                  common and popular... a hot dog-type bun, stuffed with... yup, yakisoba! topped with benishouga and mayo. no kidding.

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                                                                                                                                    PotatoHouse RE: chartreauxx Nov 3, 2013 03:34 PM

                                                                                                                                    Hmmm, I may have to plan a trip to Kyoto!

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                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 RE: chartreauxx Nov 3, 2013 05:35 PM

                                                                                                                                      Those crazy Japanese! Pizza with mayo and Tater Tots! <sigh>

                                                                                                                                  2. re: chartreauxx
                                                                                                                                    c oliver RE: chartreauxx Nov 3, 2013 05:17 PM

                                                                                                                                    To me, a BLT is not a BLT without iceberg lettuce. And I slice it rather than pull off leaves.

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                                                                                                                                      chartreauxx RE: c oliver Nov 3, 2013 10:34 PM

                                                                                                                                      i usually use butter lettuce, basil, or romaine... personal thing, iceberg really turns me off :(

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                                                                                                                                        c oliver RE: chartreauxx Nov 4, 2013 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                                        I only guy it for BLTs and I only make BLTs with great, summertime tomatoes. So I rarely buy it :)

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                                                                                                                                          ErnieD RE: chartreauxx Nov 5, 2013 11:10 PM

                                                                                                                                          Basil I'm not so sure about-it's a pretty strong flavor?

                                                                                                                                          I don't necessarily dislike iceberg but I don't really use it a huge amount. much I'm with c oliver, a BLT is exclusively an in-season thing and we get good romaine and/or a few other lettuces at the same time so I just use those. I do think you want a sturdy, slightly moist crunch in your BLT lettuce and iceberg will definitely do that so I don't see a problem with it.

                                                                                                                                          I sometimes really want iceberg on a taco or something and if I do, I get it.

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                                                                                                                                            hill food RE: ErnieD Nov 6, 2013 10:06 AM

                                                                                                                                            I like lettuce yet I get fussy, I'll go slutty or high-end, and get picky about the type and how it's torn or cut (but that's a whole different kettle of monkeys)

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                                                                                                                                              alkapal RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 11:25 AM

                                                                                                                                              oooh, great idea for a thread-- "torn or cut?"

                                                                                                                                              my response: it depends.

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                                                                                                                                                c oliver RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 11:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                Depends. Iceberg for a BLT = cut.

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                                                                                                                                                  hill food RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 12:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                  and it depends on the substance and the purpose.

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                                                                                                                                                    hill food RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 01:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I know, I sound like some sort of food-based psychopath "it was just ASKING to be torn, oh I was going to cut and make it easy and quick but that wasn't the rules of our game"

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                                                                                                                                                      alkapal RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 01:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                      a vegetable profiler will be called in to investigate.

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                                                                                                                                                    EWSflash RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 05:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                    Slutty or high end- what a great way to describe lettuce fussiness! Please expand on that.

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                                                                                                                                                      hill food RE: EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 06:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                      it's based on whim, the other ingredients, the leaf at hand, who's watching, I really can't explain it. it may very well have to do with the weather or what shoes I have on.

                                                                                                                                                      the important point is for others to know these oddities are OK if only chlorophyll is spilled.

                                                                                                                                                  3. re: ErnieD
                                                                                                                                                    chartreauxx RE: ErnieD Nov 6, 2013 09:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                    it is strong... but i do invite you to try a sandwich with gently toasted bread, tomato, fresh mozzarella, basil, and bacon. classic BLT? no way. tasty? report back with your opinion.

                                                                                                                                                    FWIW, i don't judge those who eat iceberg (periodically or habitually). it's just not for me. i'm totally guilty of some weird "yucks", ie i HATE asparagus, hard-cooked eggs, ice cream, mashed potatoes, steak fries, etc.

                                                                                                                                                    but i suppose variety makes the world go round.... ^_^

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                                                                                                                                                      hill food RE: chartreauxx Nov 6, 2013 10:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                      I really like all that stuff you hate, but I could also completely dive into your version of a BLT. hmm a sorta Caprese with bacon in bread. I'm game!

                                                                                                                                                      it's all about the connections.

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                                                                                                                                                        ErnieD RE: chartreauxx Nov 7, 2013 09:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Well, yeah! That's a completely different sandwich that I'm totally on board with. I'm kind of a minimalist when it comes to BLTs-if I'm feeling completely crazy and out-of-control I might allow a little avocado, but other than that it's the b, the l, the t, and some mayo.

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                                                                                                                                                          TroyTempest RE: ErnieD Nov 8, 2013 07:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                          I like my BLTs without the L. That's how i had them growing up.

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                                                                                                                                                            Gastronomos RE: TroyTempest Nov 8, 2013 07:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                            cold wet lettuce on hot crisp bacon? No. Just NO!

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                                                                                                                                                              Veggo RE: Gastronomos Nov 8, 2013 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                              But a room temp avocado on hot crisp bacon is a marriage from heaven.

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                                                                                                                                                                Gastronomos RE: Veggo Nov 8, 2013 07:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                so is a home grown vine ripened tomato still warm from the sun on hot bacon.

                                                                                                                                                                the local NJ style diners around here use cold pale tomato slices and huge chunks of ice cold iceberg lettuce and put the mayo on the side.

                                                                                                                                                                I'll take a bacon with sliced ripe tomato and a schmear of mayo on well toasted bread at home... :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                  EWSflash RE: Gastronomos Nov 8, 2013 07:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Try nonwet lettuce- you'll be glad you did. At least I was

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                                                                                                                                                                    Gastronomos RE: EWSflash Nov 8, 2013 07:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    so if I put (dry) room temp lettuce on a hot sandwich, it won't get wilted and soggy?

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                                                                                                                                                                      linguafood RE: Gastronomos Nov 9, 2013 08:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Maybe if you let it mature. Most people I know (myself included), don't stand around for a long time gazing at their BLT in wonderous stupor.

                                                                                                                                                                      It's "assemble & eat". And then it's gone.

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                                                                                                                                                                c oliver RE: Gastronomos Nov 8, 2013 08:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                Did anyone say they used wet lettuce? Not even cold as by the time the bacon is cooked, bread toasted the lettuce is probably just about room temp.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Gastronomos RE: c oliver Nov 8, 2013 08:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  you're in the lettuce camp?

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                                                                                                                                                                    c oliver RE: Gastronomos Nov 8, 2013 08:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Yes. Aren't you?

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                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: Gastronomos Nov 8, 2013 11:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  Dunno where you have your BLTs, but lettuce should NOT be wet or cold...!!!! Room temperature and DRY! Maybe start making them ay home???

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                                                                                                                                                                    Gastronomos RE: Caroline1 Nov 8, 2013 11:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    I stated the answer to that upthread 4 hours ago.

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                                                                                                                                                                      c oliver RE: Caroline1 Nov 8, 2013 11:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Gastronomos changed his post from three hours ago. The original asked me if that's how I have them at home (paraphrasing). So you and I can be confused together :)

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                                                                                                                                                                        LotusRapper RE: c oliver Nov 8, 2013 11:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Lettuce pray ........... for peas


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                                                                                                                                                                          mwhitmore RE: LotusRapper Nov 8, 2013 02:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Whirled peas.

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                                                                                                                                                                            LotusRapper RE: mwhitmore Nov 8, 2013 02:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Rimshot !

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                                                                                                                                                                              Gastronomos RE: mwhitmore Nov 8, 2013 03:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              awww, give peas a chance

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                                                                                                                                                                            Gastronomos RE: c oliver Nov 8, 2013 12:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Actually my poor spelling and syntax almost made my post read as if I was asking you if you like soggy limp wilted lettuce baked into your hamburger patties. So since I never meant to ask you such jibberish, I simply asked if you're in the lettuce camp. I'm not. I don't like wilted lettuce. Sorry. I find it gross.

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                                                                                                                                                                              c oliver RE: Gastronomos Nov 8, 2013 03:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              I don't like wilted lettuce either, g. But if I take a head out of the fridge when I get the other ingredients out, it's not going to be cold when it goes on the sandwich. Promise :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                Gastronomos RE: c oliver Nov 8, 2013 04:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                well, c, I'll take your word for it. maybe you can make me a sandwich :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                  c oliver RE: Gastronomos Nov 8, 2013 05:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Next August when the tomatoes are perfect.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Gastronomos RE: c oliver Nov 8, 2013 05:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    ok. it's a date

                                                                                                                                                        2. LotusRapper RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 03:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Nice one, EWSflash ;-)

                                                                                                                                                          Foe me,

                                                                                                                                                          - tomato
                                                                                                                                                          - arugula
                                                                                                                                                          - relish
                                                                                                                                                          - ketchup (doesn't belong in a "sandwich" which to me excludes burgers and hot dogs)

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                                                                                                                                                            noodlepoodle RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 03:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                            Egg salad. Had way too much of that in my school lunches;
                                                                                                                                                            Too much bread like big fluffy rolls;
                                                                                                                                                            Peanut butter; love it on crackers or toast, but not pb&j please;
                                                                                                                                                            Sliced deli ham and most other cold cuts. Again school lunches;

                                                                                                                                                            Swiss cheese

                                                                                                                                                            1. PotatoHouse RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 03:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                              I don't want MW even in the same KITCHEN as my sandwich! If you don't respect your own tastebuds enough to use real mayo then I don't want you touching my food.
                                                                                                                                                              Sweet pickles in any way, shape, or form (including "Bread and Butter" pickles).
                                                                                                                                                              Any hamburger made with meat/fat ratio lower than 80/20, and I would prefer a ratio of 85/15.

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                                                                                                                                                                gordeaux RE: PotatoHouse Nov 3, 2013 04:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                You and I would get along swimmingly!
                                                                                                                                                                We could probably talk for hours about why, in a lot of parts of America (if you are from here,) so many places server "tartar sauce," as a combination of some cheap, sugar laden, mayonnaise imposter with chopped up sweet pickles. Who in the world wants sugary fish? I will never understand that one.

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                                                                                                                                                                  alkapal RE: gordeaux Nov 6, 2013 11:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  just go and try the fried catfish breakfast platter at cracker barrel, and eat the fish with the tartar sauce. that is some delicious tartar sauce. (actually i wish they sold it or someone had a clone recipe. anyone?).

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                                                                                                                                                                noodlepoodle RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 03:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                Egg salad (had way to much in school lunches)
                                                                                                                                                                Deli ham, except a good Black Forest ham occasionally;
                                                                                                                                                                Swiss cheese;
                                                                                                                                                                Peanut butter (love it on crackers, toast and bananas, but no pb&j please;
                                                                                                                                                                Too much bread such as big fluffy deli rolls.

                                                                                                                                                                The subject of ketchup in sandwiches reminds me of a girl I went to elementary school with. She had a ketchup or mustard (only) sandwich on Wonder Bread for lunch for years. So much for a nutritious lunch and she was the smartest in the class.

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                                                                                                                                                                  sr44 RE: noodlepoodle Nov 5, 2013 05:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  When I was in the first grade in a rural school in Wisconsin, the girl next to me (second grade) regularly brought mustard and pickle sandwiches for lunch. I thought that was wonderfully exotic, and would beg my mother for them in my lunch bucket. Alas, not, and with a few more years on me, I realized what these sandwiches implied as far as family finances or knowledge of nutrition implied.

                                                                                                                                                                  For my own part, I dislike cold bread, and thick slices of bread. My mother used a Slice-a-slice, normally used to make Melba toast by slicing slices of bread vertically, to make her sandwiches. Of course, the bread needs some structure to survive this treatment.

                                                                                                                                                                2. Chemicalkinetics RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 03:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  I don't like the sand part.

                                                                                                                                                                  Ok, I also don't like ketchup on regular sandwich. Believe it or not, I love jam and jelly, and I love peanut butter, but I am not a huge fan of "peanut butter jelly". I don't hate it, but far from loving it.

                                                                                                                                                                  I am not a raw onion fan nether.

                                                                                                                                                                  1. Rilke RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 03:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Miracle Whip
                                                                                                                                                                    Cheap cold cuts
                                                                                                                                                                    Cheap cottony bread
                                                                                                                                                                    Process cheese product
                                                                                                                                                                    Supermarket tomatoes

                                                                                                                                                                    1. Veggo RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 03:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      No pickle on my Chick-Fil-A. No celery in my lobster roll. No sprouts in any sandwich.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Passadumkeg RE: Veggo Nov 5, 2013 01:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Who the Hell would put celary on a lobster roll?

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                                                                                                                                                                          Caroline1 RE: Passadumkeg Nov 5, 2013 01:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Lots of DUMB restaurateurs! It's also why I despise crab cakes! blech!!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                            rainey RE: Passadumkeg Nov 5, 2013 03:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            Hate to tell you this but chunky celery IS as authentic to a Maine lobster roll as a toasted straight-sided upright bun.

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                                                                                                                                                                              Caroline1 RE: rainey Nov 5, 2013 06:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              I know that. But it doesn't mean I have to like it! And the same thing goes for crab cakes too!!! (ptooooey!). Terrible waste of good seafood!

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                                                                                                                                                                                Jerseygirl111 RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Oh gosh Caroline, I never met a crab cake I didn't like.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Passadumkeg RE: Jerseygirl111 Nov 6, 2013 01:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Even here in NM, I make crab cakes from canned crab meat, but no celary. My dear wife likes celary in tuna and chicken salad, so I put it in.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    c oliver RE: Passadumkeg Nov 6, 2013 01:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I just checked a few decent sites, i.e., no Paula Deen, and didn't find any celery listed. Basically just crab, some seasoning and whatever it takes to hold it together. That's all I want.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Passadumkeg RE: rainey Nov 6, 2013 11:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                I live in downeast Maine, never happen. Southern coastal Maine is called "little Boston", a big tourist area. Anything can happen there!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  c oliver RE: Passadumkeg Nov 6, 2013 11:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Hey, P! When we were on Cape Cod a few years ago, there was definitely NO celery in a lobster roll.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Passadumkeg RE: c oliver Nov 6, 2013 12:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Mainers know that celary only belongs in is a Bloody Mary,

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                                                                                                                                                                                      c oliver RE: Passadumkeg Nov 6, 2013 12:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I actually did make a celery salad that Gio recommended. Liked it quite a lot but,yeah, a Bloody Mary is about the only other thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                EWSflash RE: Passadumkeg Nov 6, 2013 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                I think I would, if the celery was fine-diced and near the heart and not much of it, but I've never had a real lobster roll, so I can't be a judge.

                                                                                                                                                                                Not sure why i even entered this, except I really, really want to eat my way through lobster rolls all over the eastern seaboard. I may end up hating celery on lobster rolls, but I'd have to have both kinds to form an honest opinion.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Veggo RE: EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 05:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  This CT Yankee had a cold lobster roll with celery last Sunday in FL, yawn. Gimme my lobster and warm butter on a split top bun!

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                                                                                                                                                                                    c oliver RE: EWSflash Nov 9, 2013 01:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    As I understand it, CT has it with melted butter while the rest of New England has it with mayo. We were on Cape Cod and it was always mayo...and no celery :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                  sr44 RE: Veggo Nov 5, 2013 06:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Smitten kitchen had a recipe for a quick pickled celery that I adapted by omitting all sugar and adding minced shallots and a bunch of black mustard seeds, and letting it sit for a while. I liked this in egg salad (the original purpose) and a lot of other protein salads, although my enthusiasm would probably drop as the price of the main ingredient increased. Still, a bit of the juice could do a lot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    alkapal RE: sr44 Nov 6, 2013 11:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    interesting -- i'll look for that recipe and use your variation.

                                                                                                                                                                                    ok, found the link: http://smittenkitchen.com/blog/2013/0...

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                                                                                                                                                                                    njmarshall55 RE: Veggo Nov 10, 2013 10:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Celery, IMHO, is one of those love it/hate it things. When I make tuna fish, instead of celery, I'll add a dash of celery salt. The flavor without the crunch.

                                                                                                                                                                                  3. Beach Chick RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 04:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Butter instead of mayo...I'm looking at you AUS.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Horrid out of season tomt's
                                                                                                                                                                                    Little mayo...I want gobbs so it squishes out the sides.(best foods or dukes)
                                                                                                                                                                                    Blood soaked spotted turkey meat...flip the freak out on this.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Bad stale pedestrian bread
                                                                                                                                                                                    Cheap waxy gross cheese
                                                                                                                                                                                    Limpy wilted lettuce
                                                                                                                                                                                    No croissant sandwiches!
                                                                                                                                                                                    Warm/hot meat..want cold turkey!
                                                                                                                                                                                    Sweet pickle relish

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. zeldaz51 RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 04:35 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                                        JerryMe RE: zeldaz51 Nov 4, 2013 12:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Liver sandwich!!??!! <<Shudder>> I'll add that to my NFW, thank you very much!

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                                                                                                                                                                                          bagelman01 RE: JerryMe Nov 4, 2013 01:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I love a few slices of fresh griddled liver on a fresh Kaiser Roll or seeded rye...but NO onions on it

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                                                                                                                                                                                          alkapal RE: zeldaz51 Nov 6, 2013 11:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          i was blithely reading along this thread thinking "what a bunch of picky eaters," and that i would and have eaten most all of these things at one time or another on a sandwich. then i saw "liver," and knew -- aha! -- that i hadn't even considered that one. that one will not be on any sandwich of mine -- unless it is a good chicken liver pate.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            EWSflash RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 05:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Actually, I'd settle for Oscar Meyer braunschweiger, but on crackers rather than a sandwich. Otherwise, I hate liver in any form other than a good liver sausage.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          PandaCat RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 04:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm going to make some of you cringe: my mother likes a sandwich of nothing but peanut butter and raw onion. ????????? Eww...

                                                                                                                                                                                          Things not allowed near my sandwiches:
                                                                                                                                                                                          Miracle whip- not a miracle!
                                                                                                                                                                                          Supermarket tomatoes
                                                                                                                                                                                          cold cuts
                                                                                                                                                                                          processed anything
                                                                                                                                                                                          sweet anything especially pickles
                                                                                                                                                                                          white bread
                                                                                                                                                                                          weird things like mac & cheese

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                                                                                                                                                                                            FriedClamFanatic RE: PandaCat Nov 4, 2013 01:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            A woman I knew way back in the 60's, who spent part of her year in Sanibel FL shell collecting (she became famous for some things she did) had a PB and raw onion sandwich every day when out "shelling"

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                                                                                                                                                                                              LotusRapper RE: FriedClamFanatic Nov 4, 2013 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              My high school geography teacher ate a flax bread sandwich with nothing but butter and alfalfa sprouts in it. Every single day. With it, he drank hot water from his thermos. This was every school day and he did it at his desk.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I knew only because I had geog. class at 1:00pm and I liked to arrive early to review previous material. Also the teacher was a really cool dude and I enjoyed conversing with him.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            jbsiegel RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 05:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            No celery in my tuna salad!

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                                                                                                                                                                                              EWSflash RE: jbsiegel Nov 3, 2013 06:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              OMG- tuna salad needs some finely-diced celery- aaaaaaaahh!
                                                                                                                                                                                              just kidding

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                                                                                                                                                                                                jbsiegel RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 04:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I can go with most anything else in my tuna salad (although I do prefer it plain)...just not that celery!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  c oliver RE: jbsiegel Nov 4, 2013 07:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I put nothing but seasoning and mayo/mustard in tuna, egg, chicken salad.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    boyzoma RE: c oliver Nov 4, 2013 08:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Funny - I love finely diced celery and onion in my tuna or chicken salad, but not in egg salad. I also like frozen peas mixed into my chicken salad.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      c oliver RE: boyzoma Nov 4, 2013 01:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hmm, the peas sound pretty good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        laliz RE: c oliver Nov 4, 2013 01:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I put tiny baby peas (frozen) in tuna salad. they are very good. don't want celery or onions or relish in tuna, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                            2. c oliver RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 05:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              @OP, you put ketchup on burgers and dogs???? Yuckers :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                EWSflash RE: c oliver Nov 3, 2013 06:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Yep, I sometimes do, and I make NO DAMN APOLOGIES for it. Nor should you for not liking it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  c oliver RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 06:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  And you should note my "sideways, moronic, smiley face" or however it was that Sam F described it. That was a joke :)

                                                                                                                                                                                              2. hill food RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 05:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                sprouts in any context.

                                                                                                                                                                                                and if it's a tuna/egg/ham/crab whatever salad sandwich - please don't use a hard roll. give it to me on a plate with a fork or just the bread. I don't care to spend the rest of the day with a mayo stain on my crotch. thx.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sooeygun RE: hill food Nov 4, 2013 06:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I hadn't even thought of sprouts until I read your post. I completely agree. No sprouts. I find them very bitter. I hate when it's not listed on a menu that the sandwich has sprouts, as if it is a standard sandwich item.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Don't like lettuce on a sandwich either. Within seconds of it going on the sandwich it turns wilty and gross. Mr. S corrects me when I say BLT...I guess it's a BT.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    fldhkybnva RE: Sooeygun Nov 4, 2013 06:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Absolutely no bunny food on my sandwich.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  fourunder RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 05:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Stale bread of any kind...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    TCtoothpick RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 06:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    mayo (in anything for that matter)
                                                                                                                                                                                                    sour cream

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. ipsedixit RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 06:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Butter or cheese

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Veggo RE: ipsedixit Nov 4, 2013 06:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        So a buttered browned grilled cheese is out of the question? You are missing one of life's simple pleasures, my friend.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          ipsedixit RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 07:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nowadays V, a "simple pleasure" is simply a home cooked meal. ANY home cooked meal.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Monica RE: ipsedixit Nov 4, 2013 07:10 AM


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                                                                                                                                                                                                            ipsedixit RE: Monica Nov 4, 2013 07:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't like cheese except in limited circumstances (mainly pizza and cheesecake or tiramisu).

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't enjoy butter except in baking, and even then if I can get away with either lard or shortening, I will.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just doesn't do it for me ... I guess lunch with you in Midtown is out of the question then, eh? I was going to respond but now ... Anyway, if my cheese and butter issues don't turn you off, I'd be down for lunch next time I'm in town.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Monica RE: ipsedixit Nov 4, 2013 08:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              A cold slice of french butter on a nice crusty french baguette is one of my favorite foods in the whole wide world...=)
                                                                                                                                                                                                              I do love using lard in pie crust though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              So you don't like french? I was going to suggest a nice French restaurant for the midtown lunch. hehe

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                ipsedixit RE: Monica Nov 4, 2013 08:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I love French.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                French fries.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                French vanilla.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                French toast.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I could go on and on but the Germans might get jealous.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Veggo RE: ipsedixit Nov 4, 2013 08:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Likewise the banger and masher crowd at the other end of the Chunnel.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: Monica Nov 4, 2013 11:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'll buy that! Actually, yesterday (today too, I think) Sprouts has a special on Kerrygold butter from Ireland, for $5.00 pound, or roughly $10.0 a kilo, so I loaded up, bought a boule of artisan bread, rushed home and cranked up the convection to reheat the boule, and we're now damned near a quarter of a pound light on BUTTER....!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But it has to be grass fed dense "Euro" type butter, in which case a favorite Sammy of mine is dense fresh butter on dense cracked wheat bread with a stack of thin slices of medium rare standing rib roast. TO DIE FOR...!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But it ain't kosher! '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Monica RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 11:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My local gourmet store carries President and Chimay butter brands all for less than $10 a lb...so much richer and flavorful than Kerrygold in my opinion. So so good..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Luckly, I have some great french bakeries near me..and one of them, Bien Cuit was voted for having the best baguette in US. really, the combination of their bread and the cold butter is amazing..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Veggo RE: Monica Nov 4, 2013 01:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Niblets of ice-chilled butter on warm fresh baked crusty bread is indeed amazing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      JerryMe RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 12:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The butter and beef sandwich is a much adored treat - rare but dearly loved. Plus one on that one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      c oliver RE: Monica Nov 4, 2013 01:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      COLD butter? So it just sits there on the bread? You can't spread it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Caroline1 RE: c oliver Nov 4, 2013 03:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        No, no, no! The cold butter that just barely is spreadable, therefore stays thick in parts on the fresh crunchy cracked wheat bread, then piled with thin slices of rare roast beef from last night's standing ribs of beef left over from company dinner, then liberally doused with salt (Maldon's is my fave) and freshly ground black tellecherry pepper... FANTASTIC!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Damn! Now I'm hungry and not a slice of prime rib in the whole house... <sniff> Poor baby!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sandylc RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 05:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          OM, that sounds amazing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            laliz RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 11:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            "not a slice of prime rib in the whole house... <sniff>"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Caroline1 RE: laliz Nov 5, 2013 12:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              yeah... I cry easy. '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                sandylc RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 01:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Did you look under the bed? hee hee

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Could this become a children's book?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: sandylc Nov 5, 2013 01:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Area 51 bogey-roast beef hiding in the (tv) snow... "They're here!"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sr44 RE: ipsedixit Nov 5, 2013 05:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        "I don't like cheese except in limited circumstances (mainly pizza and cheesecake or tiramisu)."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I think many of us would not be happy to find cheese in tiramisu.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LotusRapper RE: sr44 Nov 5, 2013 05:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well if ya wanna kick it up a notch with your tiramisu, you can always use ...... ricotta :-O

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            linguafood RE: sr44 Nov 5, 2013 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think most of us would be surprised *not* to find cheese in tiramisu.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mascarpone is a cheese after all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              suzigirl RE: sr44 Nov 5, 2013 05:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mascarpone is a cheese and a vital ingredient in tiramisu

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                sr44 RE: sr44 Nov 5, 2013 06:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I stand corrected. I don't think of mascarpone as a cheese, but it is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: sr44 Nov 5, 2013 08:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah, but if some dodo makes tiramisu with cheddar or bleu, it really does suck! '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    prima RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 08:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Even worse with Velveeta! ha ha.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 RE: prima Nov 5, 2013 08:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You win! Biggest gross-out of the day!!! '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        alkapal RE: prima Nov 6, 2013 11:13 AM


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        look out, that just might be someone's name next time you call customer service somewhere.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LotusRapper RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 11:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Japanese Velveeta ?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            alkapal RE: LotusRapper Nov 6, 2013 12:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            no, that's velveetasan. LOL

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              EWSflash RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 05:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It could be either! I may change my CH name.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                hill food RE: EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 07:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                if you need an outswelling of support for what they say they will not do, you can count me in to say 'yes, let it happen'

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Ttrockwood RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 06:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Miracle whip- that stuff is nasty.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Sweet pickle relish-i lovelovelove dill pickles exclusively
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Nothing fruity-no grapes, jam, or sliced pears!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            No cold cuts
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            No cheese unless its a hot sandwich and melted

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              c oliver RE: Ttrockwood Nov 3, 2013 06:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              While I love melted cheese on a sandwich I also love a ham and Swiss or roast beef and Cheddar just plain.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              sandylc RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 06:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Mayo or "Miracle Whip".

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. LotusRapper RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 07:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Many of you are saying Miracle Whip. Are you referring to the product, or just mayonnaise in general ? Just wonderin'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  c oliver RE: LotusRapper Nov 3, 2013 07:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  MW isn't MAYO :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LotusRapper RE: c oliver Nov 3, 2013 07:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Gotcha. I use Hellmann's. Is that kosher ?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      c oliver RE: LotusRapper Nov 3, 2013 07:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      On the Left Coast Hellmann's is Best Foods. As to kosher, that's a different board :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LotusRapper RE: c oliver Nov 3, 2013 07:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I meant is it CH-worthy ? [grin]

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          c oliver RE: LotusRapper Nov 3, 2013 08:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I won't speak for others but, IMneverHO, definitely yes :) I gotta say though that Costco's Kirkland mayo is fine as far as we can tell.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LotusRapper RE: c oliver Nov 3, 2013 09:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            BTW I never knew that about Hellmann's/Best Foods distinction in west vs. east. Ours is Hellmann's in Canada.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Kirkland mayo, never tried it (at least never bought it myself, I'm sure I've eaten it in lots of other things). Ever since that spar between Kathleen Kelly (Ryan) and Joe Fox (Hanks) in You've Got Mail about buying Costco olive oil, I've always felt guilty or embarrassed about buying Kirkland condiments and stuff.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            TroyTempest RE: LotusRapper Nov 4, 2013 08:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, but not as much as Duke's

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sandylc RE: c oliver Nov 4, 2013 10:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        "MW isn't MAYO"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That's why I listed both of them!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          c oliver RE: sandylc Nov 4, 2013 01:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I was replying to LotusRapper :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Hobbert RE: LotusRapper Nov 4, 2013 02:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Mayo's fantastic. But Miracle Whip is wretched!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          gordeaux RE: LotusRapper Nov 4, 2013 06:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LotusRapper -
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Go try Miracle Whip.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You will never, ever, ever, think of Miracle Whip as a "general type of mayonnaise" again. Ever.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It saddens me when trying a new place, and seeing the word "mayonnaise" as an ingredient listed on a sandwich, and when the sandwich arrives, some cheap, sugary glop like Miracle Whip is on the sandwich instead of the promised mayo. Once MW is on the bread, it can't be salvaged. That sugary essence is still there unless you cut it off.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Veggo RE: gordeaux Nov 4, 2013 06:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I agree, it is grotesque.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ipsedixit RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 07:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              You've just never had good Miracle Whip. There's a difference.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                alkapal RE: ipsedixit Nov 6, 2013 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                MW with ham on squishy white bread is good for breakfast -- and it would be great if it had a runny fried egg squished in there, too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                (hey ipse, do ya think i freaked enough of them out with that? LOL).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                my niece who lived with me for a while always joked that i would make a sandwich out of *anything*! i've come to believe that she is right.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  LotusRapper RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 11:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  A runny fried egg in a toasted sandwich with mayo is fantastic. I drip a bit of soy sauce onto the egg when it's still in the frypan, making sure some of it drip onto the pan and get caramelized/burnt a bit. Flavor !!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Chemicalkinetics RE: LotusRapper Nov 6, 2013 03:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Sound good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. John E. RE: EWSflash Nov 3, 2013 10:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I have not read a single post other than yours.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          "Ham?" You don't want a ham sandwich?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That's almost the first sandwich on any list of sandwiches!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Puffin3 RE: John E. Nov 4, 2013 04:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I wonder why they keep making Miracle Whip. No one I've ever met can stand it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              alkapal RE: Puffin3 Nov 6, 2013 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              you haven't met me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                suzigirl RE: alkapal Nov 6, 2013 03:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Or me. Love the stuff.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                EWSflash RE: Puffin3 Nov 8, 2013 07:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I was telling my lunch buddies that from the first 40 or so replies to this thread, the most frequent mention was Miracle Whip. Oddly enough, all three that were there that day LOVED MW and didn't like mayo. I have not eaten with them since. (JK)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                bagelman01 RE: John E. Nov 4, 2013 05:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                maybe in your ethnic group, certainly not in mine................

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Veggo RE: bagelman01 Nov 4, 2013 06:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bagel, I'll make it worse....ham and swiss on seeded rye...:)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    bagelman01 RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 06:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    works for you..........
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That's why we were able to have lucnh togathe at Pepe's and you had a white Clam Apizza and I had a traditional New aven Apizza...sauce and grated Romano cheese...we both left happy

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    John E. RE: bagelman01 Nov 4, 2013 11:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I certainly understand your point, but the OP didn't indicate that was the reason. I guess if someone said they didn't like ham, it makes sense, but if we're talking about sandwiches, and there is no religious or cultural reason involved, ham sandwiches are ubiquitous.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Puffin3 RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 04:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Miracle whip. Tastes like mayo that's 'gone off'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    treb RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 04:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ketchup never, lousy bread never, fruit never, watery lettuce or tomatoes never, American cheese never, nasty low quality American style cold cuts never.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Monica RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 06:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      SO why did they invent miracle whip if no one thinks of it as a miracle? I've never had miracle whip and I guess I am never going to.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Veggo RE: Monica Nov 4, 2013 06:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Tsunami's and meteor strikes are miracles too, in a similar sense...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Chemicalkinetics RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 07:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Dude, except no one goes out and pays to have a meteor. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Veggo RE: Chemicalkinetics Nov 4, 2013 07:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have a 7 oz. meteorite, for which I paid...:)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Chemicalkinetics RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 07:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              :) True, but a stationary meteorite is so different from a meteor strike. It is like comparing a dead whale to a live one. A shadow of its former self. So different, and so sad.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Maybe that is what Miracle Whip is for. It is not Whipped Cream, but it is the memory of the Whipped Cream, just like your 7 oz meteorite -- a memory.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              P.S.: I love butters on bread. One of my most favor dishes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Veggo RE: Chemicalkinetics Nov 4, 2013 07:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I prefer my stationary meteorite to trying to catch a flying meteor in a baseball glove!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          KrumTx RE: Monica Nov 4, 2013 06:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm sure it's easy to make at home. Add a half cup of sugar to a cup of mayo, then thin it with water. It's some nasty stuff.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            hill food RE: KrumTx Nov 4, 2013 10:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Krum - not even mayo, instead put plain vegetable oil in the blender and hydrogenate it. then add the sugar.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              alkapal RE: KrumTx Nov 6, 2013 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              no, it also has mustard -- which makes it tarter than plain sweetened mayo.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              sr44 RE: Monica Nov 5, 2013 05:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Way back in the last century, mayonnaise was foreign and scary, and there was a good American substitute called boiled dressing. I think that was the origin of Miracle Whip. It may have more distant antecedents, but I've never cared to find them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                hill food RE: sr44 Nov 7, 2013 05:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                back then real mayo without refrigeration went bad quick and was a pain to make. it was considered a 'that day treat'. I remember my grandmother talking about dumping the day's mayo fast (feeding it to the dogs? I dunno) and also taking bags of homemade potato chips to parties as a teen. there weren't no 7-11 in 1911...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            3. tcamp RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 08:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Jam or jelly
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Honey mustard
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Sweet relish
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Anything vaguely related to marshmallow
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Lettuce that isn't crunchy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Shocked at how many don't want dill pickles on their sandwiches. I have thin dill pickle slices in a baggie for my tuna salad on toast for lunch today.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Monica RE: tcamp Nov 4, 2013 08:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I love frehsly made ricotta cheese with a drizzle of honey on baguette...yummm..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  pinehurst RE: tcamp Nov 4, 2013 09:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That could have been my list. tcamp and I can swap lunches anyday. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    c oliver RE: tcamp Nov 4, 2013 01:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Blech on honey mustard in or on anything :( Shiver.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Coogles RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 08:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Cold beef. I like beef in hot sandwiches (Italian beef, Philly steak etc.) but there's just something about cold beef that I don't like.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      miss_belle RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      We happen to like Miracle Whip. So there:-) I bought Duke's last time because it was on sale but we don't think it's all that so when the jar gets low it will be back to MW.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Rilke RE: miss_belle Nov 4, 2013 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Get out.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          TroyTempest RE: miss_belle Nov 4, 2013 09:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I like MW on bologna, also spam. Most other stuff Mayo.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            JerryMe RE: miss_belle Nov 4, 2013 02:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Miss Belle! I'm backing you up! I'm pissed when we're out of Miracle Whip and no one else in the household claims to like it - I would certainly notice when it's gone but all I find is an empty jar! ha! There's Hellman's in the frig but it tastes like slime to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            PS - Belle is my granddaughter's name and I call her Miss Belle, too (off topic).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              miss_belle RE: JerryMe Nov 4, 2013 03:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks JerryMe. We call ours Little Missy:-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. TroyTempest RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 08:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            potato (or any other) chips. I know lots of hounds love 'em, but like em separate.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              jbsiegel RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 09:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Gosh...the hate for Miracle Whip! I have to confess to liking it!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                TroyTempest RE: jbsiegel Nov 4, 2013 09:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                My grandfather used to put it on pork chops like some would put steak sauce. And, i have to admit, i liked it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  jbsiegel RE: TroyTempest Nov 4, 2013 12:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I've also used it to "top" baked things like chicken, etc. (before baking), and it gets nicely browned and is pretty good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I grew up eating the stuff. I had a friend who's mom used mayo, and it was the longest time until I figured out why her "mayonnaise and cheese" sandwiches tasted different than mine!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                kcshigekawa RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 10:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                sprouts...of any kind
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                chewy rolls for egg/tuna salad ('cause the filling gooshes out the sides when you bite into the sandwich)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ETA: Miracle Whip

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  rainey RE: kcshigekawa Nov 4, 2013 11:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm not a big sprouts fan but I think they're perfect for finishing an egg salad sandwich.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    fldhkybnva RE: kcshigekawa Nov 4, 2013 04:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, please toast the bread/roll/whatever for tuna salad. I hate those squishy kaiser-looking things.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    laliz RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 12:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Just say NO to Miracle Whip. I was raised on it, and now if I accidentally get a taste (as in a potato salad or something) I get the skeevies.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No pickle or raw onion on a sandwich. No sweet pickles anywhere, ever. I like pickles, but not in the sandwich.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Same with cucumber slices. (except in a cucumber sandwich)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No chopped celery anywhere.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No pepperjack cheese
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No flabby bread
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No margarine

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. dave_c RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 12:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      What don't I like?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My list is short - Ketchup or honey mustard.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Blush RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Mayo or Miracle Whip (they are equally disliked by me)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          fldhkybnva RE: Blush Nov 4, 2013 04:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm glad to find so many others who aren't fanatics over mayo.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            John E. RE: fldhkybnva Nov 4, 2013 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think there more of us out there than are admitting it. I also don't want mustard on my sandwiches. Heck, I don't want mayo or mustard anywhere near anything I am going to eat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              fldhkybnva RE: John E. Nov 5, 2013 04:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I agree! I was intrigued by pimento cheese last week and instead of buying I'm glad I made it, the yogurt version was incredible. I could only nibble the mayo version without a small twinge of feeling like I needed to puke. That said, I can tolerate a smidgen of aioli or a swipe of a fry in mayo

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Jerseygirl111 RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 12:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          After reading through this thread, I have come to the realization that there is nothing I don't like on a sandwich! I could pretty much yum everyone's yucks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well, somebody had to say it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ChiliDude RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            When I walk into a Primo's hoagie shop in the Philly area, the first thing I say when ordering a hoagie is "with oil" so that I do not get asked "oil or mayonnaise.' It isn't that I dislike mayonnaise, it just isn't Italian. It is French, and I think French cuisine is much overrated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I like pickles, but I don't find that pickles are traditional in hoagies.Other than those 2 ingredients in a specialty "panino imbottito", I like a variety of sandwich ingredients. I prefer rye bread as opposed to white bread for sandwiches other than hoagies.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              c oliver RE: ChiliDude Nov 4, 2013 01:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Just thought I'd mention that a hoagie is actually not Italian but Italian-American.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. boyzoma RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 12:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No cucumber
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              NO MIRACLE WHIP
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No sweet pickles or sweet pickle relish
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ketchup is ONLY on meatloaf sandwiches, hamburgers/hotdogs. Nowhere else.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No margarine/butter
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No bologna

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sharuf RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 02:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                They better not put mustard on my hamburgers or ketchup on my hot dogs, or I will make an embarrassing scene.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And if I find alfalfa sprouts on any sandwich or salad I will probably make some unkind comment about hippie cuisine.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  mwk RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 02:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Butter. Please don't butter the bread on my sandwich.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  When I went to England for the first time, and ordered a sandwich, the bread was buttered. I found that they did it no matter how much I begged them not to. I even found they buttered the bread on a tuna salad sandwich. Butter and mayo on the same sandwich...ick.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, and Miracle Whip. NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LotusRapper RE: mwk Nov 4, 2013 02:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My wife does that (butter or margarine) for all her sandwiches. Her heritage is English/Scottish so whatever floats her boat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 RE: LotusRapper Nov 4, 2013 03:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's as much a pragmatic thing as a cultural thing: The butter is intended to act as a moisture barrier so the sandwich filling doesn't turn the bread soggy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        suzigirl RE: Caroline1 Nov 4, 2013 03:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I do it for neither reason. I do it because it tastes good. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Caroline1 RE: suzigirl Nov 4, 2013 04:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          There's always that too! '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        John E. RE: LotusRapper Nov 4, 2013 04:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I almost always butter the bread on my sandwiches. It's the way my mother made them and I like butter.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        lynnlato RE: mwk Nov 4, 2013 03:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Every once in a great while I get a craving for a bolona and butter sandwich. It reminds me of the sandwiches we had in my middle school cafeteria and its comfort food for me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I love butter and peanut butter together on bread or toast. My dad always ate that and it reminds me of him. I almost never eat it though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Once of the best sandwiches ever, in my humble opinion, is prosciutto and butter on a baguette. Perfection.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          linguafood RE: lynnlato Nov 4, 2013 03:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I think I only like butter on bread when it's just that: butter and nothing else. I has to be flavorful, spreadable, and on excellent baguette or other crusty & fluffy bread.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          But no butter on my sammiches.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            lynnlato RE: linguafood Nov 5, 2013 04:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I like what you described as well. Bread & butter are a perfect marriage.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I once had the pleasure of meeting Nancy Silverton. she signed her new-at-the-time cookbook for me and told me that her favorite sandwich was butter and prosciutto on a baguette. I had never tried that and it seemed so simple. I tried it and was an instant convert.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              rainey RE: lynnlato Nov 5, 2013 01:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I have always had a cold roast beef sandwich with just butter and salt.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I can't think of any other sandwich I have on buttered bread but that's 2 flavors of "cow" that just work together for my palate.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                biondanonima RE: rainey Nov 5, 2013 01:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I love butter and cheese together on bread - those two cow flavors work really well together too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  linguafood RE: biondanonima Nov 5, 2013 01:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Aw, hellz yeah! Some nice dense schwarzbrot with a shmear of good butter and nice thick slice of young gouda?


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    biondanonima RE: linguafood Nov 6, 2013 07:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You forgot the sprinkle of salt, but yeah, that's exactly what I had in mind! In fact, I still remember the first time I ever had Kaesebrot, after a hike to some castle ruins near Graz. Life-changing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    rainey RE: biondanonima Nov 5, 2013 03:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Not completely sure that would work for me but I do make a cocktail spread of super sharp grated cheddar kneaded together with butter and herbs. My version of California pimento cheese, I guess. It's good!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              laliz RE: lynnlato Nov 5, 2013 11:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I like butter and peanut butter together on bread too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Veggo RE: laliz Nov 5, 2013 11:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Especially with the butter melting on toast, then the PB.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  lynnlato RE: Veggo Nov 7, 2013 04:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ooooh, I love it both warm and cold. YUM!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. lynnlato RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 03:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't like:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Too much bread. There has to be a good bread to cold cuts ratio.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Too much saucy stuff. I don't like the contents of the sandwich
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            slip-sliding all over the place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            3. Crappy bread.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            4. Old onions/lettuce/tomatoes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            5. Pickles! By themselves I love them but not on my sammich.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              bobbert RE: lynnlato Nov 4, 2013 04:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              #5. I'm the same with pickles. Love them alone. Hate them on a sandwich.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              miss_belle RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 04:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I always butter the bread for sandwiches and if I'm feeling especially virtuous I use Brummel & Brown. Which might be even worse than MW for some of you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                MRS RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 05:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                mayo would be enough to make me throw up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Veggo RE: MRS Nov 4, 2013 05:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And so it serves a variety of useful purposes.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you needed to throw up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    MRS RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 05:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand your response. I merely answered the original question, " What DON'T you like in a sandwich?". The truth is, it does make me throw up if I can see it squish about in my sandwich, or actually watch it touch any part of my food at all. Perhaps I wasn't delicate enough in my response for you, Veggo?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Veggo RE: MRS Nov 4, 2013 05:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      We're on the same song sheet. I have my sensitivities to food combinations and origins which I want to avoid, for the same reasons. Cheers, and good health, MRS.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        hill food RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 10:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Veggo - yeah ipecac as well is off my ingredient list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        thedryer RE: MRS Nov 4, 2013 05:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Apparently I miss a lot of the responses too by some on Chowhound. I must have a different sense of humor or something but the replies make no sense to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        But I understood you perfectly, MRS. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          MRS RE: thedryer Nov 4, 2013 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I didn't mean to be persnickety...I just thought I gave an honest answer, albeit not so pretty. But apparently Veggo hates mayo,too. So I'm a bit at a loss.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Veggo RE: MRS Nov 4, 2013 05:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I apologize for not communicating well. I am a big fan of Dukes mayonnaise.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              fldhkybnva RE: Veggo Nov 5, 2013 04:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I love tang but this stuff is a whole new level.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Chemicalkinetics RE: Veggo Nov 4, 2013 07:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ha ha ha. Well, for medical emergency, it is nice to have something to reliable for throwing up. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I do like mayo -- very much.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. i_am_Lois RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 06:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can't stand meat & cheese on one sandwich. Give me either, but not both together.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        fldhkybnva RE: i_am_Lois Nov 5, 2013 04:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is quite interesting

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          bagelman01 RE: i_am_Lois Nov 5, 2013 05:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          welcome to the world of kosher eating....................VBG

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            fldhkybnva RE: bagelman01 Nov 5, 2013 11:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Well, yes good point but outside of that, it's still interesting

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          HillJ RE: EWSflash Nov 4, 2013 06:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Sprouts. I like sprouts just not in a sandwich.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Monica RE: EWSflash Nov 5, 2013 11:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, vegemite...YIKES

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. prima RE: EWSflash Nov 5, 2013 12:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Miracle Whip or Ranch dressing.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Smoked turkey.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  MRS RE: prima Nov 5, 2013 04:47 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bunson RE: EWSflash Nov 5, 2013 01:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Peperoncinis and green bell peppers - overpowers the sandwich.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    fldhkybnva RE: Bunson Nov 5, 2013 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Green bell peppers, definitely keep them away from my sandwich and many other things. They are OK in certain dishes but usually just dominate whatever is there. Fajitas - yes, sauteed as is to enjoy them as bell peppers -yes, anything else -no

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LotusRapper RE: fldhkybnva Nov 5, 2013 03:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Agree ! Raw bell peppers in sandwiches just make 'em taste like a salad. Or veggie wrap.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Passadumkeg RE: EWSflash Nov 5, 2013 02:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I side w/ the Miracle Whip haters.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Marshmellow Fluff
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Spam or othe canned meats.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I prefer the pickle on the side.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Peanutbutter & jelly..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      c oliver RE: Passadumkeg Nov 5, 2013 04:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I only like Spam fried with lots of pepper as Sam taught me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LotusRapper RE: c oliver Nov 5, 2013 04:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Had a pan-fried Spam sammie on the Big Island last year. It was topped with a fried egg, fried onions and lettuce. I gotta say it wasn't all that bad at all !

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          c oliver RE: LotusRapper Nov 5, 2013 04:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Spam and eggs is just the best ever!!! I frequently travel internationally with a tin :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Passadumkeg RE: c oliver Nov 6, 2013 11:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I haven't eaten Spam in 45 yeqars and I'll keep it that way. Druther go hungry. Meat from a can is un-natural.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LotusRapper RE: Passadumkeg Nov 6, 2013 11:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              What if it's "potted" ? ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                c oliver RE: Passadumkeg Nov 6, 2013 12:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                P-keg, you're a special case for a good reason.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  boyzoma RE: Passadumkeg Nov 6, 2013 03:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The only meat I'll eat from a can is the kind of meat I've "canned" (but that is actually in jars, of course - in a pressure cooker). Great for heating when the power is out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    John E. RE: boyzoma Nov 6, 2013 04:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've been thinking about getting a pressure canner. I've had
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    'canned' beef and pork and it's really good. I've also had canned bear which was good too. I used to have a co-worker who went bear hunting with her husband every year in NW Wisconsin. They lived in a small cabin without enough freezer space so they canned their bear.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Veggo RE: John E. Nov 6, 2013 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      As contrasted with the Vegas clubs where they bare their can.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        hill food RE: John E. Nov 6, 2013 07:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I actually prefer beer out of a can.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          John E. RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 09:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Not me, I almost always buy beer in bottles.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            hill food RE: John E. Nov 6, 2013 10:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            don't be silly you can't get bottled bear.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LotusRapper RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 10:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              You sure ?? ;-)




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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                hill food RE: LotusRapper Nov 6, 2013 10:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                well maybe a Koala but they're so darn cute.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I've heard of bonsai kitten:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. njmarshall55 RE: EWSflash Nov 5, 2013 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            French Fries ON a sandwich? No thanks!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              MRS RE: njmarshall55 Nov 5, 2013 05:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ohhh.....my 5 year old thinks the best thing ever, much to my horror, is when I let her open up her grilled cheese in a restaurant, put in crispy fries, close the sandwich and eat nicely. I swear I didn't teach her this, but she loves it still. I wish she wouldn't like it/ do it, but she does.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                c oliver RE: MRS Nov 5, 2013 07:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Oh, heavens, sounds fine. I've read here of CHs putting McDs hash browns on a breakfast sandwich. What's the diff? Tell her to go for it :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: MRS Nov 5, 2013 08:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Maybe she's just super sophisticated? The first time I can remember being served French fries inside a sandwich was when I lived in Greece twenty or so (more? Who's counting?) years ago and EVERY gyro I ordered anywhere we went had French fries in it. I suspect it was some sort of food fad of the day. I would just patiently pick them out and order a SIDE of fries and more tzatziki to make up for what was lost in the gyro... (sigh)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    prima RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 08:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I like the fries wrapped up with the gyro in a pita. It's still very common in Greece. I'm glad we've now got a handful of gyro joints in Toronto that include the fries in the pita. People who don't like fries in their pita can order the sandwich without the fries. I don't bother ordering sides of fries when I've got a few wrapped into my gyro, unless I'm in the mood for Greek fries (fries topped with feta, oregano, and some vinegar/lemon juice)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      linguafood RE: prima Nov 5, 2013 08:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ack! Count me in the "anti-fries in my gyros pita" camp.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Don't get me wrong - fries work well with any number of dishes: souvlaki comes to mind, they work well with any number of Greek dips, etc. --- but when my meat's already wrapped in bread, I don't need any potatoes in there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        prima RE: linguafood Nov 5, 2013 08:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        If I won't make a mess, I unwrap the sandwich, then eat the fries, which by then are usually dressed with the tzatziki and other flavours from the gyros.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I can see how some people wouldn't like fries in their pita, but that being said, I think fries made from dryland Greek potatoes taste better in a sandwich than fries made most North American potatoes. I recently realized I'm a potato snob when it comes to fries, and I'm convinced Irish, German and Greek potatoes make better tasting fries .

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Caroline1 RE: prima Nov 5, 2013 09:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It is VERY difficult to get a lot of un-hybridized foods in the United States today, let alone GMO free food. Fact of life.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            c oliver RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 09:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            All organic food is non-GMO so just look around.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Caroline1 RE: c oliver Nov 5, 2013 09:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hmmm... Maybe you've missed some of my rants??? '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                c oliver RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 09:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Not sure I understand.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: c oliver Nov 5, 2013 09:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hmmm... Should I rant or should I not rant? This is such a fun thread! Okay, the long and the short of it is that once ANY government approves ANY GMO modification to ANY plant genome, and that plant is approved for growing by agribusiness-contracted farmers in open fields, the GMO plants don't know they're not supposed to cross pollinate with other plants of their species... The more agribusiness messes with the U.S. food supply the more corrupted things become. The ONLY true "heritage" plants are from old seeds that are grown and reproduce in an environmentally controlled hot house because if they are grown out in the open in the back yards of people who live anywhere near commercially grown similar species of plants that are cross pollinated by bees, for example, those "heritage" organic plants ain't gonna be heritage for long! "Organic can also be brought into question simply through air borne pesticides that blow across the country and fall in other parts of the country when dust storms and clouds meet and eventually fall on and pollute "virgin soil." It's not like air pollution just started yesterday! <sigh> Sorry for the bad news.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    hill food RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 11:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    that is the sad part, adjacent fields 'A' and 'B' - tilled etc, seeded yet tended separately. hmmm somehow things commingled. who'd have thought?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 RE: hill food Nov 6, 2013 02:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Which is why I find the European Communities' ban on GMO foods so quixotic! Poor babies... Don't they know about the birds and the bees??? LITERALLY!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        linguafood RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 08:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So how do you feel about the EU's ban on nicotinoids -- speaking of bees? Perhaps something the US could take up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          hill food RE: linguafood Nov 6, 2013 10:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          well we do have to start somewhere - my gripe is with the patent holders who try to sue the growers of contaminated crops for copyright infringement - THAT is evil. hrumph.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Caroline1 RE: linguafood Nov 6, 2013 01:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ban on neonicotinoids? Ban on GMOs? Ban on Roundup? LOL! Don Quixote lives! Pandora's box is flung wide open! The Genie refuses to go back into the bottle... <sigh>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I suspect the European Union pretty much knows it is jousting with windmills. Maybe trying to ban something that can't be contained gives them a short term sense of empowerment?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Neonicotinoids, glyphosate (Roundup), GMOs, prescription drugs in our drinking water, they're all different refractions through the same prism. I'm not convinced that neonicotinoids are solely responsible for the decline in bees, and something is surely diminishing the frog population of the world. The bottom line is that we are losing more because of our "creative nature" than we are gaining. And we don't seem to know how to stop. Pogo was right.... "We have met the enemy and he is us." <sigh> Kinda sad when cartoons are smarter than people.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              linguafood RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 01:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Well, yeah.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              We're all gonna die. Some of sooner, some of us later.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Earth will carry on just fine without us.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Now perhaps is a good time to move back to the regular programming of sammich dislikes '-P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Caroline1 RE: linguafood Nov 6, 2013 01:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Well, NO ONE has said anything (here or in the other sammich thread) good or bad about one of my favorite sammies... Peanut butter and juicy ripe beefsteak tomatoes on mayonnaise slathered dark pumpernickel. Damn near as good as butter, rare roast beef with salt and pepper on cracked wheat!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  linguafood RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 03:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Pumpernickel and peanut butter? Blasphemy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    sandylc RE: linguafood Nov 6, 2013 03:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Rye and peanut butter is an amazing combination.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      linguafood RE: sandylc Nov 6, 2013 04:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That may well be, but I just can't see pumpernickel -- *real* pumpernickel, the dense, moist dark-brown to almost black bread, not the fake-shit soft bread with food coloring that is sold as pumpernickel most of the time in this country #endrant -- and peanut butter together.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Nutella on pumpernickel? Sure. Liverwurst or teawurst? Totes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      But not peanut butter.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Caroline1 RE: linguafood Nov 6, 2013 04:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Don't knock it before you've tried it!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sandylc RE: linguafood Nov 6, 2013 07:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I admit that I prefer a lighter rye for peanut butter, but pump will do in a pinch quite nicely.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My number one preference for a pumpernickel sandwich is cream cheese and cherry preserves.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LotusRapper RE: sandylc Nov 6, 2013 05:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Maybe add some bacon ?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    prima RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 09:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think the terroir/lack of irrigation is what makes the fries made from European potatoes taste better.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  njmarshall55 RE: linguafood Nov 10, 2013 10:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Good gyros are difficult to find. We finally found a place here in CT that does decent ones, but I had to ask that they leave the fries off. The Albanian owner asked if i was Greek. I said no, but I know how I prefer my gyros. I think I offended him, but i got it the way I wanted it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: prima Nov 5, 2013 09:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My prejudice undoubtedly comes from Turkey where "gyros" are made from doner kabobs and didn't include fries, but that was fifty years ago when Turkish "street food" where I lived was served from a vertical charcoal grill, often mounted on a wooden push cart that was pushed through shopping markets (outdoor type) at lunch time, and the "garnishes" added to the pita were paper thin slices of red onion (which I picked out), chopped fresh spearmint, and cacik, aka tzatziki. And the charcoal was the real thing... No briquettes!!!! My god, they were good!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't know about Canada, but in the U.S. it's damned difficult to find true gyros/doner kabob because all of the gyros I've had in this country in the last twenty years are made with yucky stuff out of some Chicago company that prepackages the stuff and looks like it's made with hamburger packed around a rotary spit. It ain't good! Pity!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I've pretty much given up on ordering gyros and expecting "the real thing," even in the few little shwarma shops around Plano. Kinda sad. And while I'm at it, I think I'll wish for some real Turkish pita bread! <sigh> As the old saying goes, "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride." '-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    c oliver RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 09:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    C1, having spent a few weeks in Turkey this year, I feel your pain.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 RE: c oliver Nov 5, 2013 09:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LOL! You've read my rants before!!! If only it was just Turkish food... <sigh>

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      prima RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 09:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's pretty difficult to find the non-processed gyros in other parts of Canada. Toronto has a sizeable Greek population, so we've got several gyros joints that stack their own meat on an electric vertical spit, and Toronto also has a few doner shops and many shawarma joints with stacked meat on electric vertical spits.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Most gyros in Canada, outside Toronto, and the majority of gyros in Toronto (outside the handful of shops that do the real deal) would be a similar hunk of processed meat or processed mini bricks. Usually, the gyros come with diced tomatoes, raw onions (usually white) and tzatziki.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't mind the processed type of gyros (I just see it as the Greek fast food equivalent of hot dogs or bologna). I order them every so often. In Halifax, that processed gyros meat is part of the Halifax donair, which is a favourite regional fast food out east.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LotusRapper RE: Caroline1 Nov 5, 2013 09:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yup, we were in Greece in the late '90s, and EVERYwhere we went to eat, there were fries. Gimme some good ol' roasted potatoes like in the Greek restos back home ! But nope, gotta be limp, bland fries. Pita breads were such welcomed treats !

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ever try enjoying ouzo-grilled octopus (MMMM !!!), keftethes (meatballs) and other yummy mezes in a port-side resto, only to have the meal meh'd out by a plate for fries. For Alexis' sake !!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 RE: LotusRapper Nov 5, 2013 10:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I lived in Greece for a little over half a year while my then-husband, a Raytheon electronics engineer, taught Greek military and civilian VIPs about the care and feeding of the missile system the U.S. government allowed the Greek government to buy. As soon as his Greek students found out I was a former archaeology/Greek Classics major, we were taken to places few tourists get to see. And at least once a month a whole bunch of us would go for a night of mezes and ouzo!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      There's also a great Greek delicacy or a certain crab that is harvested when the female is LOADED with eggs... I suspect it was "forbidden fruit" even back then because our landlord had special connections with some fishermen out of Peraeus, and his wife cooked them and "smuggled" them to us with great secrecy! They were drop dead delicious!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And just in case the Dionysus Restaurant branch is still perched on a hill facing the Acropolis, it is the absolute best place from which to watch the Son et Lumiere show of the Acropolis because you get to see the full effect of the lights part of the show without all of the "Hollywood" type of hype that goes with the sound part of the show!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      We went to that particular Dionysus restaurant our first night in Athens, before we went to the Peloponnesus where we lived. We sat on the patio, made an evening of mezes and ouzo, then about 11:00pm my husband asked our waiter if he could call for a taxi for us. The waiter looked at us in amazement and said, "Oh, didn't you know? There is a soccer match on TV tonight so none of the drivers will be working until the game is over. Sorry!" WW tried walking back to the hotel. I was wearing heels, which DO NOT mix well with cobblestones... My husband parked me on a park bench while he went in search of transportation... He found a TAXI...!!! which I promptly refused to set foot in! The ONLY reason that cab driver was working was because he had a TV mounted in his dashboard. In Athens traffic? Not this kid! So I took a lesson from Socrates and went barefoot in Athens... We walked all the way back to the Ledra Marriott with my shoes in my husband's pockets....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Greece can be fun!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LotusRapper RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 11:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Great story and visuals, Caroline ! Thanks for sharing. I miss Greece. We *had* a sizable Greek community here in Vancouver but it's on the decline ..... as are the # of Greek restaurants :-(

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'll never forget the time my wife and I were staying at a private B&B on Thera, run by a single dad and his daughter, wonderfully kind and warm people. The owner, Laki, would tell us stories of when he lived in Vancouver in the early '70s during his hippy days and feeling what a wonderful country Canada is. During our week there we became friends and even helped them with chores around the house. One morning I woke up to breakfast and found Laki in a rather foul and distraught way. Upon some prodding from me, he told me how that morning as he was taking some trash to the bin in the alley, he heard some faint meowing in there and discovered a few kittens abandoned and placed in a plastic bag (!). He promptly took them out and made sure they were alright before feeding them food. As he was telling me the story I can sense his anger with the feral cat problem in Greece (esp. on the islands, as you'll recall) and how the government does little to address the issue as well as educating the public about pet population control. At least that particular incident had a happy ending.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      MRS RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 10:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh yeah...I never thought about that! Maybe I should get her a gyro one of these days?!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Gastronomos RE: Caroline1 Nov 6, 2013 12:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Gyro wrapped in a pita. Souvlaki wrapped in a pita.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        These are street foods.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Just like a hamburger between a sliced bun.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        To be eaten out of hand.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        small. Easy to hold. Easy to eat. On the go, a side of fries ain't as easy as a few slipped IN the pita wrapped sandwich.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        These pita wraps are much smaller in Greece than abroad. Two or three (or ten:-) may be consumed at a time.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Adding fewer fries IN the pita wrap makes for less ingestion of fries and a more filling meal. It's not the American portion sizes.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Here in the US everywhere I go they add lettuce. Cold crisp piles of chopped wet lettuce to a hot sandwich. ???????!!!!?????
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You don't get that stupidity in Greece. Especially wet iceberg in a hot sandwich.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That's filler. Makes it look big.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And stupid.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I see many around me here add potato chips to sandwiches.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. alkapal RE: EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 11:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    gosh, i *used* to think we were the same person, and now i see we are not (except maybe about the ketchup thing -- unless it is a meatloaf sandwich).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      BuildingMyBento RE: EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      chocolate cheese

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        OliviaH RE: EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 12:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        No thank you to:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sweet pickles/relish
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        butter(except for a grilled cheese)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        American cheese
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        honey mustard
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        buffalo sauce
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ranch dressing
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Oscar Meyer anything

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          acssss RE: EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 01:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nutella (it's like putting a slice of bread on a candy bar)