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Paris Lunch + Dinner for 13 on a very budget

we will be in Paris in the mid of november and looking for a good lunch and dinner place, preferably a prix fix menu, preferably 25-30€ max.
i have been to rino and loved it.
thought about septime but it seems almost impossible to get a reservation for a group this size.

are there any other maybe not so upscale recommendations for dinner?

thank you very much in advance!

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  1. 1. Rino, not Rhino, please !!
    2. Abri - lunch, not dinner, - fits your budget and is in that league. Don't be alarmed if the lovely waitress suggests to you the "menu supplices [torture]". Just say yes. She means Surprise.
    3. A very good dinner that would fit your budget would be Dans Les Landes.
    Please report back. We looooove to hear back from requesters. Wink.

    1. thanks a lot for the infos!
      will do so!
      and of course its rino, really hat that macintosh spelling correction!

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      1. re: philie

        Rhino + supplices, whoa !
        While you're in the correcting mood, you may also want to correct your post title: "very budget".

        1. re: Parigi

          Au bon coin in the 5 th. 3courses for €29 in a congenial atmosphere, with a super nice hostess/owner. Yet another JT pick-that says it all!

          1. re: pammi

            "Yet another JT pick"
            I'd like to take credit, yeah team, but it was actually Parnassian's idea Bless him wherever he is at 36,000 feet between P, London & NYC.

            1. re: John Talbott

              Well, high fives all round, and we really had a nice dinner at the right price-this just might be the place for philie +his friends.

      2. I have not updated my "reasonably priced restaurant list" in quite a while (but L'Express had a feature article yesterday for meals under 25 E but I'm too cheap to spend 5 E and it's not yet up on their website.) Anyway, in July 2012 my tops were:

        36, Rue Condorcet in the 9th (Metro: Anvers)
        Closed Sundays
        3 courses at lunch = 19 E

        31, rue Tiquetonne in the 2nd, (Metro: Etienne Marcel)
        Closed Sundays
        3 courses on the lunch formula = 26 E

        L'Auberge Flora
        44, blvd Richard Lenoir in the 11th, (Metro: Brequet-Sabin)
        Open 7/7
        3 courses a la carte = 30 E.

        I promise I'll update it now that today is a holiday and I don't have to report to the parole officer.

        1. Ok, here's a quick and dirty look at eight 2013 lunches, giving my rating 0-10 and the price for 3-courses (sorry for the lack of coordinates but twilight is upon us and they are searchable):
          7.9 Cantine de La Cigale 25-40 E a la carte
          7.5 Les Premices 24 menu
          6.7 Encore 30 menu
          6.6 Verre Moutarde 29.50 menu
          6.5 Gagnage 22 menu
          6.2 Jeanne B. 17 menu & Cuistance 27 menu
          6.1 Chameleon 19 menu

          1. Herding a group of 13 is a problem in itself so I'd focus on quartier/ neighbourhood. Where exactly are you/ they staying ? And what's the profile of the group ?... all adults ? all foodies ?

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            1. re: Parnassien

              I was missing the 13 part of the equation.
              Have you searched for private rooms or large groups here & elsewhere eg the Red Michelin pps 1211-1212; a quick glance shows a fine place, Tintilou in the 11th, formula 17, menu 25 at lunch.

            2. Thanks so much all of you for the Information!

              We are a goup of art Students, almost all of them really in Love with food and myself, calling me a foody beging to a Lot of nice places!

              We were able to grab rooms at sofitel le faubourg hotel.
              I hope this works locationwise.

              A Perfect combination would be so creative lunch menu ( unfortunately septime is fully booked) and one great but inexpensive dinner Option.

              Dans le dandes and Au bon coin sound Great, how would they Place in Johns List?

              I would Love to go to the best Place possible for the Money Even if its a Nuance Thing in terms of quality.

              And PLEASE excuse my spelling, this stupid ipad spelling correction is killing me!

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              1. re: philie

                "Dans le dandes and Au bon coin sound Great, how would they Place in Johns List?"
                7.1 Dans Les Landes (#13 this year)
                6.5 Au Bon Coin(#20 this year)

                1. re: philie

                  Oups, your hotel is stuck in BuddhaBarLand so little hope of finding cheap, good, creative and big enough for a table of 13 in easy walking distance. If you do break into smaller groups, the lunch-only weekday-only Bistrot Capucine on the rue des Capucines is a great bargain at 28 € for a cuisine du marché lunch and, for the more trad carnivores among you, lunch at the old school Cave Beauvau on the rue Saussaies off the rue du Faubourg St Honoré at the same 20 to 30 € price point.

                  Ligne 8 from Concorde or Madeleine métro is a sort of foodie express (well, maybe not all that fast) to some great restos in the 11th and 12th. Auberge Flora on the boulevard Richard Lenoir/ rue du Vert Chemin is a sort of French tapas resto open 7/7... great lunch formula for 18 € (2 courses) or 21 € (3 courses) and a super weekend brunch/ lunch deal for 28 €. La Gazzetta on the rue de Cotte in the Aligre quartier/ 12th is a now under-the-radar gem of creativity... great weekday 2-course lunch formule for 19€ but limited choices... great neighbourhood for just hanging out.

                  For artsy types, the in-house restos of many arts complexes/ museums/ etc are surprisingly good and usually within your budget. I'm a big fan of both Le 104 on the rue d'Aubervillers/ rue Curial in the 19th and Les Docks/ Cité de la Mode et du Design on the quai d'Austerlitz in the 13th. Although a bit out of the way, le 104 has the better food and the better vibe... an excellent modern restaurant Les Grandes Tables du 104 + the more casual and cheaper Café Caché. As for Les Docks, there's a veggie resto (bof!) that I've never tried but the main resto Wanderlust is really super... admittedly, I've only been in summer when the large terrace is open. If you all have a Carte Paris Musées/ museum pass, the Musée des Arts et Métiers in the 3rd is a superb space with a more than decent in-house cantine.

                  1. re: Parnassien

                    "Docks, there's a veggie resto (bof!) that I've never tried"
                    But I have - skip it, that is MOB not their other two.

                    1. re: Parnassien

                      "your hotel is stuck in BuddhaBarLand"
                      So, as we Amuricans say, Buddha Bar land; sounds like a challenge. I mean 13 art students on a tight budget, in the Bermuda triangle of food opportunities, especially since the chef at the Elysee retired.
                      Let's do a Karl Rove and go straight at the problem - the Buddha Bar's vraymonde, now cheffed by a woman, Rougui Dia, who cooked up great stuff for about a decade at Petrossian's Le 144, but who trained as a pastry chef and at Chez Jean, so she must do more than just salmon, herring and caviar, non?
                      Now as a consenting adult who does due diligence I knew that the Buddha Bar:
                      (1) is a brand that caters to the Bobo and cocktail set,
                      (2) is outrageously expensive, and
                      (3) has probably spent more money on its redesign than the Picasso Museum.
                      My verdict: this is not for 13 art students, and maybe nobody but Cabinet Ministers out with their, what do we call them now? friends who are women?

                      1. re: John Talbott

                        From the photos on your blog, it looks like Rougui Dia only worked as a consultant on the menu, not like she is actually present in the kitchen.
                        I may be dead wrong but that sure looks like it.

                        1. re: Ptipois

                          Well, the market specials say they were selected by her as if she were Paul Bocuse in 1960 going to the market himself. Maybe she's one more of these helicopter chefs, I dunno.

                          1. re: John Talbott

                            If I were a chef of the level of Rougui Dia, dishes such as they appear on the photos (particularly the veal with the colloidal brown sauce and nondescript side stuff) would never make it through the pass. Hence my wonderment.

                        2. re: John Talbott

                          "the Buddha Bar:
                          (1) is a brand that caters to the Bobo and cocktail set,
                          (2) is outrageously expensive, and
                          (3) has probably spent more money on its redesign than the Picasso Museum."
                          Plus the cultural inanity of installing a giant buddha statue in the middle of a bar. Who can drink in front of that? (Actually, the answer seems to be: a lot of idiots.)
                          I am so going to create a trendy bar in Beijing with an elaborately bleeding Jesus on a cross, backlit, behind the bar counter.

                          1. re: Parigi

                            "I am so going to create a trendy bar in Beijing with an elaborately bleeding Jesus on a cross, backlit, behind the bar counter."
                            Tell me when you'll open.

                    2. When I'm with groups of friends who are relative neophites, I like to take them to sample various regional styles of French cuisine, including:

                      Limousin: Lescure, 1e. Their Confit de Canard is some of the best in Paris. Be sure to reserve your slices of fruit tart first thing or they will be gone by the time you're ready for dessert. It's been here for four generations. I've been coming here for 30 years and never had a bad meal. It's small and they don't take reservations, but if you get there at 7 or shortly afterwards, you should be okay. Their long tables are perfect for big groups. (Closed weekend.)

                      Auvergne: Ambassade d'Auvergne. Their multi-course "Regional" menu is 32 euros. Be sure to try the aligot, a regional dish of potatoes and cantal cheese. And you won't believe their bowl of mousse au chocolat.

                      Alsace: Chez Jenny, Place de la Repupublique. Plats of choucroute, mild Alsatian sauerkraut overflowing with tradiational sausages and smoked meats for 29 euros.

                      The last two have plenty of room and take reservations. All three have web sites.

                      1. As being Students we are really used to long distances, so the area is something we will problably only See at night on our Way to bed. Most of the Day we are out and Petty much eager to taste good food whereever it my be.

                        1. Also, would you say there is a more experimental Place for lunch for 7 persons than Rino where One could still get a reservation?
                          Premices Sounds great but somehow maybe to classic for us.
                          I would make a reservation tomorrow so any help is appreciated.

                          I maybe thought about Café figue?

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                          1. re: philie

                            "would you say there is a more experimental Place for lunch for 7 persons than Rino.....Premices....... Café figue?" I wouldn't call any of the three "experimental" but maybe I don't know what you mean. I like all three but don't see them experimenting.
                            "Experimental" to me would be Franck Enee where I ate yesterday and where he pushes the envelopes of combinations/etc, Aizpitarte's places (Chateaubriand and Le Dauphin) and Wiliam Ledeuil's Ze or KGB (which looks to have lost most of its "team" to BAT).

                            1. re: John Talbott

                              I too am a little confused by the word "experimental". If he means eateries like Akrame, Chateaubriand, and Agape Substance where new ingredients, new techniques and strange juxtapositions are used, none of the cutting edge places are remotely within his price range. If he means non-trad restos like Rino, Septime, etc with re-stated classics or fusion-like creativity, he has a huge choice because these are pretty much the norm of the majority of restaurants opened in the last 30 or 40 years in Paris.

                              And Talbott le Vénérable, we (myself are included) are such butterflies.The flowers that gave us such joy over the last few years are still there but seem to have been abandoned as we look for fresher blooms. Clandestino, Pierre Sang (usually no-rezzie but you can book for groups of more than 6), Youpi et Voilà, Au Passage, Métropolitain, etc all seem perfect for a budget-conscious artsy type.

                              To me, if the OP liked Rino and is attracted to Septime, La Gazzetta on the rue de Cotte seems a natural fit within budget for lunch.

                              And JT, must applaud you once again for hitting all the right places i.e Franck Enée. I didn't find it as cutting edge as you but still a surprising delight (unexpected from the Monsieur Lapin folks) and a worthy successor to Au Gourmand (one of my long-time faves) on the rue Molière.

                              1. re: Parnassien

                                "Franck Enée."
                                Thank you for the kind words but I cannot take credit for tumbling onto it; it and many others came via my vast network of culinary spies.

                          2. sorry for the confusing use of the word experimental, somehow missed the point there.
                            this was not meant to describe the food in particular. i thought about places with young and maybe emerging chefs, in an easy atmosphere and with some new ideas to maybe classic dishes.

                            really interested and probably going to Franck Enée as it sounds simply great even though i have t admit i am sort of confused not by the really great tips from all of you but by the amount of choices one has.

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                            1. re: philie

                              Welcome to Paris. The abundance of choice is something we have to deal with every day. Sorry, but there are lots of right answers so just flip a coin.

                              Almost all of the restos suggested so far are helmed by young and upcoming chefs. Strangely, you chose Franck Enée who has been around in one form or another for a few decades.

                              I'd also focus on the quartier and what it offers (bars, markets, cafés, galleries, etc) rather than just the resto itself. It's a great way to really experience Paris rather than rushing from one address to another.

                              1. re: Parnassien

                                My idea was to go to enee partly because of good reviews and because of a Dinner Option for 35€ which is very appealing.
                                I think we will also visit dass le Landes or Bon coin and Café figue.Please dont hesitate with switching options, its very interesting to hear them

                                1. re: philie

                                  Au Bon Coin is deliciously trad with a few modern touches. Café Figue is ok but the immediate quartier is not the most exciting... John Talbott's highly recommended Café Trama on the rue Cherche-Midi might be a better choice (but not for large groups). Dans les Landes is unfailingly enjoyable.

                                  For browsing and strolling like a Parisien, try the rue de Bretagne in the 3rd, rue Oberkampf in the 11th, and the area around the place d'Aligre in the 12th.

                                  1. re: Parnassien

                                    I think Parnassien, we must convey to philie, that whichever they choose, no disaster will occur.

                                2. re: Parnassien

                                  "Strangely you chose Franck Enée who has been around for a few decades."
                                  He still looks young and I never had stuff like that at M. Lapin (only fat globules swimming around the Circle of Willis after the lievre royal.)
                                  I think like my late departed friend Jim M. he's broken "on through to the other side."

                                  1. re: John Talbott

                                    I never asked who actually did the cooking at Franck Enée when I was there but I have a suspicion there's a little gaggle of frenchified Japanese chefs in the back turning out the food... certainly it was unexpected from Monsieur Lapin.

                                3. re: philie

                                  "sorry for the confusing use of the word experimental"
                                  Thanks for the clarification; I was worried we hadn't read your mind well and you were looking for the likes of Adria, Redzepi, Dufresne etc.

                                  1. re: John Talbott

                                    glad i could clarify.

                                    one more question and i hope i am not annoying all of you to much with it.
                                    my reference to rino was partly because of the food my friends liked the last time, partly because of the relaxed atmosphere.

                                    rereading all of it i am a bit scared they will not like the atmosphere of enee maybe finding it not relaxed or juvenile enough.

                                    would you recommend going there with this in mind or are there good food spots that would suit better for us?

                                    thanks again in advance for all your help!

                                    1. re: philie

                                      "atmosphere of enee maybe finding it not relaxed or juvenile"
                                      Seemed adult to me.

                                      1. re: John Talbott

                                        ok, so i mayyybbeee have to work another place out.
                                        since premices and the things i had on my radar mostly due to your great reviews seem the same, do you think there is something equal in terms of food with a more relaxed atmosphere?
                                        maybe saturn or abri if one can get a reservation?

                                        1. re: philie

                                          "maybe saturn or abri if one can get a reservation?"
                                          By all means. They are both a step or two up above Premices.

                                          1. re: Parigi

                                            But they are not "relaxed and juvenile."
                                            Anything but.

                                            How about a place like Les Petits Plats or the cellar at Les Papilles where one can be relaxed and juvenile without disturbing folks upstairs?

                                            1. re: John Talbott

                                              Gulp. Really, what does the OP mean by juvenile ? I can't believe that disturbing folks is part of the given.
                                              If it is, I don't see which restaurant on the list would welcome that.

                                              1. re: Parigi

                                                wow,this time my descriptions seem hard to decipher.... first of all: we may be students but almost everyone of us is in its 30s or on the way there so please be assured that we know perfectly well how to behave and by no means are interested in being a noisy or annoying crowd!!!

                                                what we liked so much about rino and what i tried to describe be juvenile atmosphere is that in the open kitchen of rino we experienced folks our age having fun in what they are doing, same for the waiter ( even a bit older ) and the whole appearance of the place!

                                                this is what we are looking for again in hopefully a new place to as that somehow carries the same vibe.

                                                being also interested in the food i thought franck enee would be a good choice, however, i feel that maybe the ambiente is a bit more serious in not a bad way but maybe different to what we expect.

                                                i don't want to leave the impression we are a young ary student group, loud and ignorant looking for a hipster meal ignoring other guests which is not the case!

                                                1. re: philie

                                                  It's not that any us would imagine that you would be loutish and inconsiderate but that a group of 13 is bound to be an intrusion on the other diners in a typically small parisien resto meeting your limited budget and other criteria. See JT's post below recommending that you try to minimize the intrusion by choosing a restaurant where you can separate yourselves. His suggestion of very new Le Pario on the avenue Emile Zola in the 15th seems perfect. I would also add Pierre Sang à Oberkampf on the rue Oberkampf in the 11th because 1) there is a second "salle" 2) they accept rezzies for groups (normally a no-rezzie place), 3) the cooking is superb, contemporary and accompanied by a great vibe/ buzz and 4) the quartier including the adjoining 3rd around the rue Bretagne is great for hanging out/ exploring.

                                                  1. re: Parnassien

                                                    thanks for the infos. now, this sounds much more understandable to me!
                                                    I indeed wrote Pierre Sang regarding a reservation!
                                                    Thank you very much for this info!

                                                    Also, for myself, trying some more than the rest of the goup i reserved some other places hoping to like them!

                                                    Thanks again all of you for the great help!

                                                    1. re: philie

                                                      My prediction is that you're going to be happy wherever you land.
                                                      Go for it!

                                                      1. re: John Talbott

                                                        Sooooo, this is how i made id:

                                                        Franck enee for me and 2 friends.
                                                        Pierre sang for 8 of us.
                                                        Both of These are dinner.

                                                        Lunch in cafe figue for 13 and an additional Dinner at Pirouette with 2 Friends.

                                                        Really Looking forward to it and thanks again for the Great help, i really appreciate it!

                                                        1. re: philie

                                                          Two more good eateries that could put up with big groups:
                                                          - Chameleon, the one on rue René Boulanger
                                                          - Jeanne B on rue Lepic.
                                                          - Dans les Landes, in one of the 2 large tables.

                                                          1. re: philie

                                                            Please report back;esp on a group of 13.

                                  2. I want to return to the subject of:
                                    "Lunch + Dinner for 13"
                                    As I was exiting the toilettes today at Le Pario, a very exciting new place in the 15th, (a rec which you should ignore unless Parnassian or another "butterfly" has been there to confirm my opinion; Rubin thought it merited a rare 3/4 if that's any help), I realized there were two rooms upstairs, one for about 14, the other for about 18 folks and I asked my genial hosts if they would serve 13 people at the price given for lunch (17 E=2 courses, 22 E=3) or dinner 35 E carte-menu and they said "have them call and give us the budget and we'll tell 'em what we can do."
                                    OK, my point is not to force you to you to eat there, but reinforce several points raised before on CH-FR:
                                    1. A group of 13 will, faute de mieux, disturb the others in a small resto.
                                    2. That you all will be exited that day by whatever happened to the Winged Victory of Samothrace, Braque or the Surrealistes and the French will want to continue to explore Proust, Woody Allen and Ted Cruz.
                                    3. And, that there are lots of places like this that have upstairs or downstairs rooms (Les Papilles, the Bastide Odeon, Tintilou, etc etc).
                                    Maybe you can start by searching for private rooms/ large groups as I suggested above or start a new thread and consider telephoning and giving your budget (30 E before liquids I believe) and no, I do not perform concierge services anymore since Mrs T. showed me the last quarterly balence sheet.
                                    Just an esprit de l'escalier.
                                    John the elder.

                                    1. sorry for the confusing use of the word experimental, somehow missed the pint there.
                                      this was not meant to describe the food in particular. i thought about places with young and maybe emerging chefs, in an easy atmosphere and with some new ideas to maybe classic dishes.

                                      really interested and probably going to Franck Enée as it sounds simply great even though i have t admit i am sort of confused not by the really great tips from all of you but by the amount of choices one has.

                                      1. may someone might have a good lunch option for sunday?
                                        no group, just maybe 4 people or so and preferably under 30€?
                                        thanks s much!

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                                        1. re: philie

                                          Our "go-to" place Sunday lunch is Axuria in the 15th but I heard a whisper about a problem, maybe someone can clarify.

                                          1. re: John Talbott

                                            Café des Musées.
                                            Jeanne B rue Lepic
                                            Dans Les Landes
                                            Chez Casimir buffet lunch
                                            The funky Portuguese lunch counter Chez Silvana in Marché St Quentin.

                                            1. re: Parigi

                                              All good ideas; the Casimir buffet beats all other such.

                                        2. Just wanted to repord back quickly as i am on the run right now!

                                          Pierre Sang: Group of 10 People which was no problem at all, however, the atmosphere and the food were somehow not the greatest.
                                          first dish was superb, after that it got soso...... won't come back. A great night anyway!

                                          Cafe Figue: Group of 14 people, again, no problem at all since we were no loud or annoying group. Food was really nice and down to earth, price wise super great, wine was terrible, overall a great experience!

                                          Franck Enee was great, food was not uber spectacular but the overall experience really nice!

                                          Piroutte: My winner! Have been there with a group of 4 and had a great evening! My first thought was that we may have to leave quickly after our food but the was only one seating and everything was really relaxed! Shared almost the whole menu and there was nothing that was not delicious! Wine and whisky were good, too!
                                          Would definitely come back and recommend it!

                                          thanks again for all your help!

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                                          1. re: philie

                                            And thank you for the feedback.
                                            Strange about Pierre Sang falling off and bad wine at Figue.

                                            1. re: philie

                                              Sounds like you had a good time when you had a party of four, not so much with larger parties.

                                              Those are different jobs, restaurant and catering to large parties. It's rare that one is good at both.