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Weight Watchers Foodies - The Bermuda Triangle Edition! November 2013

roxlet Nov 1, 2013 04:21 AM

My leader drew a triangle on the board, and said, "This is the dieter's Bermuda Triangle." On one bottom corner she wrote Halloween, on the top she wrote Thanksgiving, and on the other bottom corner she wrote New Year's Day. In the middle she drew a circle, and said, "Don't get lost in the middle!"

Truly, there are challenging times ahead. Each of those holidays is only one day! One day, people! So there is no reason to think that you are entitled to endless off-program days. But it's the constant temptation, isn't it? The goodies that are everywhere, calling out to you to be sampled, the traditions that must be made and tried, and the frequent partying.

So let's be clever, WW Foodies! Let's inspire each other with tasty meals and ideas to help to help each other through this challenging time!

  1. roxlet Dec 1, 2013 09:07 AM

    Let's continue here:

    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/926288

    1. k
      Kontxesi Nov 29, 2013 10:41 AM

      I didn't go in this week. My mom was busy, and I didn't feel like driving in myself.... Plus I was busy making rolls and getting my bird into the brine.

      How did everyone's Thanksgiving go? I told myself that I wasn't going to worry about it, but I didn't end up eating that much. I did have a bit of cider, but I only had two plates and both were half vegetables. If I had been stressing about points, I think I probably would have eaten more.

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        ziggylu Nov 29, 2013 03:07 PM

        Sounds like you enjoyed your day! Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday...low-key, drama free, and tasty too!

        We got up and went for a run, then walked the dogs trying to burn dinner off in advance! LOL We ate early, around 3, and then took the dogs for another walk before bed.

        Our anniversary was Wed night so we went out for that, today our friends took us out for lunch and we're off for the weekend with other friends. I bought a new pair of running shoes this morning as mine are shot so I'll break them in this weekend trying to burn off the meals. We've been sticking with a one main meal a day strategy...we'll see Thursday night how it works out.

        Hope everyone is a having a great weekend!

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        valerie Nov 27, 2013 11:42 AM

        I skipped my weigh in last week since I was feeling like I was careless but since I usually go on Thursdays, I decided to go today instead. I don't like to go more than 2 weeks without weighing in or things can get really out of hand. I am up .2, which isn't terrible. I had hoped to lose (I guess that's always the case!) mostly in anticipation of a big eating day tomorrow.

        But as I said elsewhere on this thread, my plan is to have a nice Thanksgiving and eat what I want, but wake up on Friday to a new week.

        Hope everyone has a nice holiday!

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          ziggylu Nov 27, 2013 08:44 PM

          I was down .4 tonight so still pretty flat. Oh well!

          Hope everyone enjoys the holiday!

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            herby Nov 28, 2013 04:19 AM

            Going in the right direction, though! I am in the same funk these days - switched to Sat weigh-in - will see how it is this week but do not hope for much. I really need to track and forget all excuses I use not too :)

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              valerie Nov 28, 2013 05:26 AM

              Down .4 is better than up .4!

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            ziggylu Nov 21, 2013 01:42 PM

            All our residence halls did a full thanksgiving meal at lunch today. Our baker had all kinds of fresh pies and cakes out too at all the locations. Different work issues took me through three of seven of them during the lunchtimes. I had a slice of turkey breast and some salad while my intern and assistant told me how fantastic everything else was. I'd had a couple big dinner this week so really needed to resist for balance in the week...sometimes willpower sucks. LOL

            Full disclosure: weigh in tonight...only thing that kept me honest at lunch. LOL

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              roxlet Nov 21, 2013 03:11 PM

              And you were very honest!!

              1. re: ziggylu
                saturngrrl Nov 26, 2013 10:26 AM

                Hey, whatever it takes, right? So? How'd ya do? I'm trying to be very mindful and careful of what I'm eating this week so I can indulge on Thursday. Because I do plan to indulge.

                I lost one pound this week, for a grand total of 60.6. That puts me fewer than 10 pounds from the top of the WW goal range for my height. I'm ok with being at the top of that range, actually... considering I've NEVER made it that close before. I GOT THIS. (It may take two or three more months, but that's cool with me.)

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                  ziggylu Nov 26, 2013 12:18 PM

                  I don't even remember what i was lsat week...up a few ounces but I forget how many.

                  I've been pretty much stuck since I got sick in early october. I finally stopped hacking middle of last week and started back on my running program sunday so we'll see what happens from here...at least I didn't gain during those six week but with the holidays ahead I don't want to have a ten week plateau.

                  Congrats on being so close to goal! That's awesome! That's got to feel good. I'm about halfway to mine so it feels somedays like there's a still a long ways to go. I'll be glad when I'm past the halfway point(why the last weeks has annoyed me so much!)

                  I made some oven breaded fish for dinner last night(with braised greens of course!). If you have a Costco by you, the Kirkland signature Hake loins are super low in points and great for basic applications like that.

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                    saturngrrl Nov 26, 2013 12:36 PM

                    I do have a Costco! That sounds great - will definitely look for those! I tend to buy a lot of produce at Costco, since I go through it so quickly... especially the pre-washed, pre-cut stuff (squash, mango, broccoli rabe, baby kale, etc.) and rarely buy proteins there, since I'm the only one who eats healthy at our house! But I could possibly convince the SO to eat Hake. As long as I don't make him eat any vegetables with it.

                    I totally understand how frustrating it can be to endure a long plateau. I've had several FOUR-WEEK plateaus during this year, but on that fifth week... BAM. I get a 3- to 5-lb loss! Hang in there. The holidays will end eventually, right? ;-)

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                      ziggylu Nov 26, 2013 01:29 PM

                      Yeah, i had that big loss a couple weeks ago but 2 lbs of it were lbs that were bouncing around while I was at the funeral and then sick. So I"m still bouncing around in a few lb range with no real momentum. I had a ton of momentum in August and Sept to it kind of stinks. Oh well. Still better to be down 35lbs and holding than heading back up again.

                      He might like those Hake loins as they are super super mild. I mostly use them for quick meals like last night and they take really well to breading(who doesn't love a piece of breaded food after all LOL).

                      I don't buy a lot of produce at Costco with just the two of us and me being around kitchens all day anyhow. We just don't go through it fast enough.

                      Finally adjusted to being without the summer fruits. Poached some pears over the weekend and picked up a first box of clementines too. Still missing all the great berries though...seemed like this was an extra delicious berry season!

              2. Gio Nov 21, 2013 12:08 PM

                More Weight Watchers recipes from The Wok Guru, Grace Young. This time Thanksgiving side dishes. Stir-Fries can be cooked in a skillet, too!

                Green Beans w Frizzled Shallots and Toasted Almond Stir-Fry
                Rice Stuffing with Sausage and Shiitake Mushroom
                Ginger Brussels Sprouts with Pancetta Stir-Fry

                http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/ar...

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                  ziggylu Nov 21, 2013 01:34 PM

                  Oh wow, these sound great!

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                    Gio Nov 21, 2013 02:42 PM

                    Oh good! I'm so glad you think so. I especially like the sound of the stir-fried Brussels sprouts and think I'll make that next Thursday.

                    There are probably 9+ more Grace Young recipes at the WW site. Just type her name in the search engine.

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                      Kontxesi Nov 22, 2013 09:04 AM

                      I'm starting to think that ANY Brussels sprout recipe is fantastic! :D Unless they're boiled....

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                    roxlet Nov 21, 2013 03:12 PM

                    Thanks for pointing these out, Gio!

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                      saturngrrl Nov 26, 2013 10:23 AM

                      Yum. We'll be away for Thanksgiving, but I would like to try some of these on a regular day/night sometime. Thank you!

                    2. k
                      Kontxesi Nov 21, 2013 09:37 AM

                      Down 1.2 this week, and even with my sore back, I managed to get 19 activity points. This probably sounds ridiculously low to some of you, but I don't work out and I sit at a desk all day. Lately I've been getting 3-9 points per week, so I'm pretty proud of myself.

                      EDIT: Let me clarify. On those around-3 weeks, I forgot to wear my thingy on the weekends, which is when I would get some activity. 3 points is Monday-Friday, sitting in a car for 2 hours and an office for 10, then passing out when I get home.

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                        valerie Nov 21, 2013 10:20 AM

                        That's great! I wish I could say the same. I didn't have a terrible week, but I just felt like I was a bit careless on most days. So I opted not to weigh in today. I will, however, try to focus this week and weigh in on Wednesday...might as well get it in before Thanksgiving!

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                          roxlet Nov 21, 2013 10:48 AM

                          Up .8. Birthday parties galore last week, and this is going to be another challenging week. We'll be out at a football game on Saturday, tailgating, and who knows all what, plus dinner out. Sunday is another friend's birthday (curry and cake the invite says), Tuesday we head to San Diego for a couple of days of in-law feasting for Thanksgiving, and it will be next Friday before things get back on course. I just need to hold steady through this.

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                            ziggylu Nov 21, 2013 01:39 PM

                            Wow, congrats! That's great! I think 19 points is a lot...that's about 3 points/day on average. Especially if your back is sore, that's fantastic!

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                              saturngrrl Nov 26, 2013 10:23 AM

                              I give myself one lousy activity point for walking my dog a few times each day. I do not work out, either... no time, with a super long commute and long hours in front of a computer screen. And then, when I get home, I ride that sofa like nobody's business. Giddyup! So, 19 APs is fantastic! Congrats! And even better, the loss! :-)

                            2. roxlet Nov 21, 2013 04:42 AM

                              Off to my meeting this AM, and I'm not looking forward to getting on that scale. Too much of too much this week, and it's not even Thanksgiving yet!

                              1. juliejulez Nov 19, 2013 08:16 PM

                                I tried this stir fry that someone posted awhile back on an earlier thread: http://www.weightwatchers.com/food/rc...

                                I thought it was pretty delicious, and quick to put together (like most stir-frys are). I actually just had it as 2 servings, and even then, each serving was only 372 calories. I also added in a half cup of rice so total meal was 475, which is good for me (try to be under 500 for lunch and dinner). Obviously if you ate it as the 4 servings the calories (ie points) would be very low!

                                Curious to see how the leftovers turn out tomorrow at work.

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                                  ziggylu Nov 20, 2013 10:19 AM

                                  We've made this recipe a couple times and quite like it as well!

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                                  ziggylu Nov 17, 2013 09:37 AM

                                  So as you can see in this thread we practiced for Thanksgiving last night http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/924635

                                  The meal was much heavier than what our own typical Thanksgiving meal looks like...but that said we managed to come not feeling overly stuffed or uncomfortable and are experiencing no food hangover this morning.

                                  Our strategy was the same we'll use for most big meals we'll be heading into over the holiday season. Healthy and clean eating in the few days before - we don't starve in anyway but are sure to really focus on eating for nutrition and leave the "bad" stuff aside entirely for a couple days. Lots of salads, fruits and veggies, lean protein, and few refined carbs. A good workout yesterday morning. Ahead of dinner, a healthy breakfast and lunch(oatmeal and chicken soup) that satisfied and held us but wasn't high in fat or calories.

                                  At dinner we took a reasonable portion of everything and didn't go back for seconds. For me this was easy as I knew how uncomfortable I would feel if I did. As I sat there considering seconds I told myself I would really regret it, thought about how I would feel and the urge was gone. Focused on the conversation instead. We served everything buffet style so that made leaving seconds aside easier too as the serving dishes weren't in front of us on the table.

                                  Didn't bring home any leftovers other than some turkey. Woke up this morning for another workout. Will eat fairly clean most of the week as we have another dinner to go to next weekend.

                                  So, that's our strategy. Don't feel deprived in any way. I haven't tracked it yet, likely used most of, if not all, the weeklies but tracking will help balance out the rest of the week hopefully. Enjoyed a big hearty meal but also don't feel I've done a lot of damage.

                                  Anyway, as we've been discussing stategies for the holidays I thought I'd share the experience. As we've all mentioned it's really just one meal...and through the holiday season one meal at a time. Not everyone needs to be a feast so that we can enjoy the ones that really are! (all those recipes, while not light, were surprisingly winners too if you're looking for new Thanksgiving ideas!)

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                                    valerie Nov 17, 2013 02:31 PM

                                    Sounds like you did great...not going back for seconds is a huge accomplishment and definitely not easy!

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                                      roxlet Nov 18, 2013 04:59 AM

                                      That sounds really good, and not going back for left-overs is a great strategy. If I do, I wind up feeling crappy afterwards.

                                      Yesterday was my son's birthday party, and there was lots of chips and dips but no real meal for me for the second night in a row. I have no idea about points, since what was going on was pretty untrackable. I made for cakes four the celebration (we had 30+ people) and I didn't have a single piece of any of them, though I did taste some of the crumbs that fell off the cakes as I was serving them. Everyone knows that crumbs have neither points nor calories :). This week is pretty much a loss, though I will be very exacting between now and the time we leave for San Diego next week. I will be at my SIL's house and we do all the baking and cooking. I have to eat what they have, but I plan on practicing portion control to get through it!

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                                        saturngrrl Nov 18, 2013 01:06 PM

                                        Not having leftovers in the house is a major win, I'd say. That's my downfall when I do Thanksgiving at my house and have a fridge full of stuffing and gravy and potatoes, etc. I could give a rip about the turkey, honestly -- it's the SIDES that make Thanksgiving so yummy (and fattening)!! :-) I like the dinner club idea. Maybe I can start a WW dinner club! LOL!

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                                          ziggylu Nov 18, 2013 01:27 PM

                                          Yes, no leftovers is key for us! I woke up yesterday thinking...hmmm sweet potato kugel would be a good breakfast. Good thing I didn't bring any home! When there are no leftovers it really is "just one meal"

                                          I grew up a in Greek home and it was hard for me to learn to cook in small portions but now I can do it so we rarely have leftovers in the house. I didn't become overweight because I ate a lot of junk food and rich food but instead because of the amount of food I was eating at and between meals so portion control and balance has been really important for me to learn. I try to set few traps for myself, even on weeknight dinner we never bring the serving dishes to the table so I can't pick as we sit and chat at the table....

                                          Our dinner club has been together 12 years now. We actually organized ourselves on the Cooking Light website and with the exception of my sister and our spouses were total strangers at the beginning. We've moved away from the Cooking Light menu focus over the years and have run a gamut of themes and activities over the year. It's been a lot of good fun, good memories, and good eats!

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                                        Kontxesi Nov 16, 2013 03:06 PM

                                        Just wanted to share:

                                        It's been 20 days since I've reached my daily ActiveLink goal, and I haven't hit my goal two days in a row since July (four days in a row, while we were moving....)

                                        So far this week, I've hit it four days in a row. Hopefully I can keep it up. I'm pretty sore right this second, though. :p

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                                          roxlet Nov 16, 2013 03:10 PM

                                          Good for you. I keep thinking that my active link isn't working properly, lol.

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                                            k
                                            Kontxesi Nov 20, 2013 10:47 AM

                                            Well, that soreness hasn't gone away. I'm not sure what I did on Saturday, but my lower back is killing me. I had my L6 and L7 vertebrae get twisted earlier this year and it took forever to get it straightened out.... I have a bad feeling that something is going on down there again. :( So much for ramping up my activity.

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                                            ziggylu Nov 16, 2013 08:50 AM

                                            Pomegranates are in season. This morning I cooked up my oatmeal with a couple chopped up dates in it and then sprinkled the finished oatmeal with pomegranate. Never tried that before. Really quite taste....the dates sweeten things nicely and the tart pop from the pomegranate is great! No added points beyond the value of the oats themselves like this either.

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                                              roxlet Nov 16, 2013 02:29 PM

                                              I wish I liked oatmeal. No matter which kind, it always tastes like library glue to me.

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                                                saturngrrl Nov 18, 2013 12:54 PM

                                                I tried pomegranates for the first time last year... had no idea what to do with them. Ended up blending the seeds into my smoothies that I was making daily (and really need to get back into!)! Very tasty. Love the flavor and the nutrition. But they are a HUGE pain to peel/prep. Until I learned the trick of submerging the fruit in a bowl of water to peel it... MUCH better/easier!

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                                                  ziggylu Nov 18, 2013 01:21 PM

                                                  Definitely much easier under water! I think back to when I was a kid and my mom didn't know this trick. We'd be all red when we were done!

                                                  Now I admit I'm lazy and I buy the pre-cleaned seeds from Trader Joe's or Costco!

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                                                    herby Nov 18, 2013 03:47 PM

                                                    There is another trick - you break the fruit in half (or cut) and bang on it with a wooden spoon over a bowl where the seed fall.

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                                                  k
                                                  Kontxesi Nov 19, 2013 03:18 AM

                                                  When we lived in Nevada, we had two huge pomegranate trees in our back yard. I loved it. Then we moved to Virginia, and no one had a clue what the hell a pom was... until they exploded as a superfood.

                                                  Call me a hipster, but I think I prefer the former obscurity. :p

                                                3. bobabear Nov 15, 2013 08:33 PM

                                                  I'm new to this thread...

                                                  Husband and I have done WW twice before, both for 2 months October & November in past 2 years. This year, I started with a plan to commit and be strict through to January to lose weight to get to a healthy BMI, then work to maintain that healthy weight. Online only, no meetings.

                                                  I've been doing really well planning our meals and being pleased with what we eat and re-learning portioning... Then tonight I wanted to make something special with some fresh salmon and live shrimp I bought. Pesto cream pasta with the salmon and shrimp was my enthusiastic plan until I counted all the points in the pasta, pesto, heavy cream :( I got so bummed and ended up making something different and much lighter.

                                                  Anyway, it's nice to see the support and positive words in this thread! Can't wait to be more useful here.

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                                                    roxlet Nov 16, 2013 04:43 AM

                                                    That was great that you decided to find something lighter to make with your delicious fish. What did you make?

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                                                      ziggylu Nov 16, 2013 09:06 AM

                                                      Welcome! I've had that happen a few times...decide to make something, calculate it out...and scrub the mission! Usually the redeveloped missions turns out pretty darn tasty anyhow...hope yours did to!

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                                                        valerie Nov 16, 2013 09:14 AM

                                                        Yeah, you do not get a lot of bang for your buck on WW with pasta, pesto, cream all in one meal. But there are ways around it. I don't use cream at all for cooking but I have read about subbing in things like greek yogurt so maybe it's worth looking into or maybe somebody has a suggestion. I do, however, sometimes use light cream cheese mixed into a sauce to get a creamy consistency.

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                                                          ziggylu Nov 16, 2013 09:43 AM

                                                          I've never liked creamy stuff much but my sister and a friend of mine have had pretty good luck with the fat free half and half as a sub for cream in sauces. Don't have first hand experience to recommend so only can pass the idea along...!

                                                          I do use greek yogurt in place of sour cream all the time on mexican food, baked potatoes, etc. I actually prefer it and have been doing that since pre WW. Definitely worth a try!

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                                                            bobabear Nov 16, 2013 11:49 AM

                                                            The heavy cream was about to go bad, so I really wanted to use it in the lightest meal possible and this is what I ended up with:

                                                            - pasta swapped out with rice vermicelli, which is 1/4 the points for the same amount of pasta
                                                            - dropped the pesto for miso
                                                            - used some light, low sodium chicken broth along with the cream

                                                            Sauteed aromatics and bell peppers, simmered with chicken broth until thick, added heavy cream and let it thicken up some more before whisking in the miso. Rice vermicelli also likes to soak up sauce, so while it wasn't a creamy pasta like I had originally intended, there was a deep flavor in the noodles :) That along with some sous vide fresh coho salmon and some shrimp (all cooked with garlic and thyme) ended up pretty delicious.

                                                            My original intention last night was to get away from Asian influence since we've had that every weeknight this week, but alas, the Asian ingredients were low points and easy to work with.

                                                            Thanks for the suggestions! I will definitely try greek yogurt next time.

                                                        2. re: bobabear
                                                          saturngrrl Nov 18, 2013 12:44 PM

                                                          Oh, good! Another newbie so I won't be all alone! :-) Isn't it sometimes mindblowing how high in points certain things can be? OK, maybe eye-opening is a better way to put it.

                                                          I cheated and read ahead... it sounds like the dish you ended up with was delicious and a great way to lighten things up. I also did some lightening up over the weekend!

                                                          My SO loves Olive Garden's Zuppa Toscana, but A) I refuse to set foot inside an Olive Garden and B) TOO MANY POINTS for the copycat recipe with heavy cream, italian sausage, bacon, etc. So, I went a-Googling and found multiple versions of a "lighter" recipe. I ended up using turkey sausage, turkey bacon and a mix of fat-free half and half with 1/3 packet of dry ranch dressing mix. One cup of cream = 24 points. One cup of fat-free half and half = 4 points. The dry dressing mix does add points, but still a significant savings over the full-fat cream! The bottom line is that it was DELISH and the SO loved it. Win win! :-)

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                                                          ziggylu Nov 14, 2013 08:05 PM

                                                          I was down 4.6 tonight which surprised me. I did start back with some exercise this week, not at the intensity I was doing before I was sick but I wanted to be sure not to lose the habit of getting up every morning to do something. I'm still hacking away so it's going to be a while til I run more than a couple miles and til I can be outside again.

                                                          I also really went back to tracking again. I wasn't over-indulging over the past few weeks but hadn't been bothering to track either. Between exercising and tracking it helps me make better choices so my carb intake was way down this week. A lot less bread especially. While I"m still hacking away I feel better than I have in about four weeks and I'm sure part of it is making better food choices. I"ve had a lot of 12 hour days in the past week and not as worn out as I might be so being back on routine has been really good for me in a lot of ways.

                                                          Our meeting wasn't bad tonight. It was the same focus as everywhere else but we have a great leader and it really was more about things to make Thanksgiving special that weren't just focused on food. People shared a lot of traditions they loved about the holiday like early morning walks before prepping dinner, card games after dinner, holiday decorating, etc. I don't think anyone left feeling lectured or with a negative takeaway, there was so much enthusiasm in the discussion as people shared family memories. I have to say the leader does such a good job with this group. Wish she could do a webex meeting nationally! LOL

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                                                            roxlet Nov 15, 2013 04:27 AM

                                                            Wow! Congrats! I don't think I've ever lost that much in one week!

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                                                              valerie Nov 15, 2013 05:30 AM

                                                              4.6...that is great!

                                                            2. re: ziggylu
                                                              saturngrrl Nov 15, 2013 07:13 AM

                                                              That's a terrific week! Congrats! Your leader sounds amazing. I do WW at Work and we have an incredible leader, too. She's so stinkin' FUNNY that it makes me want to go to the comedy show, er, I mean, meeting. I was actually disappointed this week when I showed up and we had a substitute leader who looked about 14. Turned out, she was fantastic as well. Not as hilarious, but engaging and good at keeping the conversation going and on track and positive!

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                                                              valerie Nov 14, 2013 03:49 PM

                                                              I lost 1.4 lbs. over the last 2 weeks so now I'm down 22.2 lbs.

                                                              One of the keys for me is that I learned when to indulge and when to just say no. And when it comes to Thanksgiving, I am with you, Kontxesi, and I will indulge and I will eat what I want. But I won't make it a week long affair, just a dinner, and wake up on Friday and start my new week.

                                                              We go to my sister's place so I'm not faced with a ton of leftover stuffing in my house to eat for days after. And although it is a 4 day weekend, which will be somewhat challenging, we don't travel anywhere and we don't have to eat every single meal out in restaurants.

                                                              Oh, and we celebrate Hanukkah so the good news is that we will actually only have one indulgent holiday meal instead of Thanksgiving and then Hanukkah a week or 2 later.

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                                                                roxlet Nov 14, 2013 04:15 PM

                                                                Yay for you! I was down one this week, so I was very happy. How's this -- the preferred breakfast for the day after Thanksgiving at my SIL's house is stuffing, heated in the microwave with gravy, with two farm eggs on top. Oh, just kill me now! Good thing we have an early plane on Friday!

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                                                                  Kontxesi Nov 14, 2013 05:05 PM

                                                                  That sounds delicious.... I know what I'm having for breakfast on the 29th! :p

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                                                                  ziggylu Nov 14, 2013 08:11 PM

                                                                  Congrat, valerie!

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                                                                  Kontxesi Nov 14, 2013 03:49 AM

                                                                  Up 0.4. I just can't seem to get out of this funk I'm in. I'm falling back into things like pasta and donuts and ice cream.... I need to find some way to get myself to buckle down.

                                                                  So, yesterday's meeting was about Thanksgiving. We spent the whole time talking about ways to make the holiday not about food, what other things we can do, etc. I just sat there thinking "God, it's ONE DAY. Can we not have ONE HOLIDAY where it's okay to just pig out? We're all big girls here, I'm sure we are able to accept the consequences of our actions."

                                                                  At the very end of the meeting, the leader did say "But remember. It's just one day. If you do indulge, Friday is a new day and you don't have to let it get you off track for 6 weeks." So there is that.

                                                                  I know that I'm just one person, and not everyone in my meeting thinks like me (obviously), but I really, really dislike the idea of trying to play down the food element of Thanksgiving.

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                                                                    roxlet Nov 14, 2013 04:54 AM

                                                                    I hear you. for me, it's more than just one day since we travel out to the west coast. I bring pie crust with me, and my husband shows off all his recent creations to my in-laws. Actually, Thanksgiving is the least of it. Turkey is fine, and I can resist my own baking pretty well. Since my SIL (with whom we're staying) and MIL and all the family are thin as rails, I guess I'll just have to follow their lead to some extent.

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                                                                      Kontxesi Nov 14, 2013 05:10 AM

                                                                      It's actually more than a day for me, too. Thursday at my house with the in-laws, Friday at my mom and step-dad's, Saturday at my dad and step-mom's. Yikes!

                                                                      It's just the principle of the thing, I guess. We are working hard at this all year long. Let us just have the holiday without being told we shouldn't eat, you know?

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                                                                        saturngrrl Nov 14, 2013 09:44 AM

                                                                        I vote for indulging on the holiday... but not using that as an excuse to spiral outta control! I give myself a "day off" every couple of months. It's fine. My typical Thanksgiving-on-WW strategy involves eating some turkey breast with a teensy drizzle of gravy, a LOT of steamed green beans, and a spoonful (not a serving spoon! LOL!) of all the other sides to taste/enjoy. I don't like feeling overstuffed anyway... I count it all as best I can and don't dwell on it. Oh, and I have wine and a SLIVER of any available pie, if it's one I actually like. I don't waste points eating stuff I don't like. I have been known to taste something and (privately) spit it it out if I don't like it and don't want to spend even one point on it! No joke.

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                                                                          roxlet Nov 14, 2013 04:15 PM

                                                                          Yes, it's the spiraling out of control that is the problem more than the day of indulgence.

                                                                  2. saturngrrl Nov 13, 2013 12:47 PM

                                                                    Wait, there are other WWing Chowhounds? Too cool. I had no idea! I'm looking forward to perusing this thread and maybe even chiming in. Oh, who am I kidding? I'm a big chimer-inner, so you've been warned!

                                                                    By way of introduction, I'm Margo, and I'm a long-time WWer (some might call me a repeat offender), but THIS time, it's working out so much better for me. I started in mid-January and have thus far dropped 57 lbs. I don't like to say "lost" because it implies I might find it again!

                                                                    Yesterday was my first meeting and weigh-in after five weeks away due to a veryveryveryveryvery busy and STRESSFUL month at work, which has also involved being surrounded by Halloween candy and attending a couple of "celebratory" project-end dinners.

                                                                    However, with the exception of a few exceedingly long days/nights with too much available food and wine, I was proud of myself for staying on program. Even when I indulged, I tracked it. For the first time all year, I got the red negative number on my online tracker/app! That has NEVER happened before.

                                                                    Anyway, I stayed exactly the same as five weeks prior, which I consider a big win.

                                                                    But enough about me. I'm going to go back to reading about you and your recipes and holiday ideas. And I agree - each holiday is just one day and not a license to overdo it the entire holiday season. Lucky for me, I've got Thanksgiving, Chanukah AND my anniversary all on one day! Boom. Done. :-)

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                                                                      roxlet Nov 13, 2013 02:16 PM

                                                                      Welcome, Margo! That's an impressive weight loss. Congratulations, and I look forward to hearing more about your journey.

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                                                                        saturngrrl Nov 14, 2013 09:38 AM

                                                                        Thank you. I look forward to continuing the journey! I don't know why, but this go-round has been so much easier for me than any prior attempt. And I'm older now, so... you would think it would be harder to shed weight, what with hormonal changes, etc., that everyone always complains about.

                                                                        15 years ago, I did WW for the first time. I dropped 50 lbs. in 9 months. And then... well, I don't have to explain what happened after that. This time, I was down 50 in 8 months! Go figure.

                                                                        I have to go figure out what restaurant in Vegas we're going for Thanksgiving dinner. Got some good ideas on the Vegas board here! :-)

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                                                                        ziggylu Nov 14, 2013 08:08 PM

                                                                        Wow! Congrats saturngrrl! I bet you feel fantastic!

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                                                                        ziggylu Nov 13, 2013 09:37 AM

                                                                        Here's a couple weight watcher friendly recipes we thought were great. Our friends had us to dinner on Saturday night and made both of these. We are going to add them to our regular rotation of eats. With the holidays here too it's great to have some new things to rotate in to balance out the inevitable heavier party meals.

                                                                        My girlfriend made us both on Saturday night. She added feta to the quinoa salad which was a nice addition. This would make a great salad to keep in the fridge during the week for quick dinners and lunchs. (add the arugula fresh each time though.

                                                                        Quinoa Tabbouleh Salad
                                                                        http://www.azcentral.com/style/hfe/food/recipes/articles/quinoa-tabbouleh-salad.html

                                                                        Grilled Herb Tofu with Avocado Cream
                                                                        http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/gi...

                                                                        1. roxlet Nov 9, 2013 05:07 PM

                                                                          Some great Grace Young Chinese recipes on the Weight Watchers web site.

                                                                          http://www.weightwatchers.com/util/ar...

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                                                                            ziggylu Nov 13, 2013 09:39 AM

                                                                            Thanks for posting this. I love Grace Young's recipes. I'm going to track down some sichuan peppercorn soon!

                                                                            I never browse anything on the WW site other than using the tracking tools. I should take a closer look at the recipes...the last Grace Young recipe posted here(the piccata one) was a real winner too!

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                                                                            valerie Nov 8, 2013 08:08 AM

                                                                            I have been just sort of going along...not gaining but not losing. Not such a terrible thing but I really need to tighten the reins and lose a few more pounds before the end of the year, even if it's just 3 lbs.

                                                                            What I really have to do, every day, is keep reminding myself that every day is not a holiday. I will let myself splurge on Thanksgiving but that's one day, not a whole week!

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                                                                              roxlet Nov 8, 2013 10:16 AM

                                                                              That's the right way to look at it!

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                                                                              ziggylu Nov 8, 2013 07:03 AM

                                                                              Up 1.8 at weigh in last night. We tossed out the last weigh in when I was carrying alot of water so this was up from the one before which was three weeks ago. That last one was early morning and this was last evening so...overall given I haven't been tracking or exercising I'm at peace with the number.

                                                                              I do know I'm in dangerous territory when it comes to unbuilding habits I worked hard to build over the summer so recommited today to both trackign and getting what exercise I can in given my ongoing bronchitis. I got up early and just walked on my treadmill while watching the news this morning and that didn't seem to cause any extra respirtory distress so I'll do that for a bit til I (hopefully) get better. Had some fruit after and now some yogurt for breakfast with everything tracked.

                                                                              As for the holiday season....my plan is to do as I did during the summer...eat within my points most days and then save the weeklies for weekends(or in this case holidays). I'm the youngest in my family and in my mid 40s so I will say at this point in life as we're all over we've really cut back on holiday indulgences and meals aren't as rich and heavy as they were when I was much younger.

                                                                              I've upped my consumption of meat quite a bit since joining WW while simultaneously cutting back a lot on the carbs I used to eat to fill up(bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, etc). I"m finding I much more satisfied. I stick to lean things like chicken, turkey, sirloin and pork tenderloin. We don't have starch most nights at dinner anymore and instead the protein and vegetables. I'll stick with this pattern through the holidays as well...with a spoonful of mashed potatoes and stuffing thrown in to celebrate!

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                                                                                Kontxesi Nov 11, 2013 03:36 AM

                                                                                That's about what I've done. I used to sit down with just a bowl of buttered pasta for dinner. And then another. And maybe another....

                                                                                I find that when I take the time to prepare a protein and limit the amount of pasta I make, I end up just as satisfied with fewer points. I also don't bring home French bread anymore, and don't really eat sandwiches like I used to.

                                                                                Not to say I don't miss it. When I am confronted with a big pot of pasta for some reason, I tend to lose my head a little.

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                                                                                  roxlet Nov 11, 2013 05:24 AM

                                                                                  I am a carb junkie, and would rather have good pasta and bread and butter more than almost anything. Lately, though, I've found that pasta doesn't quite agree with me. The one time I budgeted points to have enough for a serious plate of pasta, I didn't do so well afterwards. Not sure what that was, but it has certainly made me wary.

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                                                                                    valerie Nov 11, 2013 07:53 AM

                                                                                    I, too, love pasta, bread, bagels, just about any carbs. I have pretty much cut out bagels since a good NY bagel plus whatever you put on it is way too high in points.

                                                                                    But with pasta, I usually make a tray of roasted vegetables to go with it. I measure out 1 to 1 1/2 cups of pasta and keep that aside for myself. Then I load up my plate with the vegetables and put the pasta on top. I also measure out the parmesan cheese and put it in a little bowl so I know what my portion is and don't keep digging in. All in, it's 5 points for the pasta (or 7 if I have the extra 1/2 cup), plus the vegetables (cooked with a small amount of olive oil, so I count 2) and 2 points for 3 1/2 tablespoons of grated parmesan cheese. So 9 to 11 points. But that's okay for me as I prefer to keep my points low during the day so I can have an 11 point dinner. It is rare that I have the pasta and the protein in the same meal (except for occasionally a small bit of chicken sausage with pasta).

                                                                                    For breakfast, I just had 2 slices of WW whole wheat bread (2 points), 2 Laughing Cow Light Wedges (1 point) and sliced tomato on top. 3 points. Trust me when I say I would've rather had the big old bagel, but hey, it's the big old bagels that got me in trouble in the first place!

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                                                                                  ziggylu Nov 11, 2013 10:04 AM

                                                                                  I was a carb junkie too. I lived for starch and sauce and could care less about any protein on my plate. It's been a hard habit to change but....I find I don't tolerate a lot of the carbs well anymore. If I eat too much bread or pasta I feel really bloated and uncomfortable. On the positive side it's creating an aversion that keeps me from being tempted. I'll eat a small portion of pasta(typically orzo) once every couple weeks but that's about it.

                                                                                  Stilllll coughing but a lot less frequently and a lot less severely...got up and ran a couple easy miles on my treadmill this morning because I can't stand not moving anymore. Hopefully it won't be too detrimental. I won't try running in the cold morning air yet. I find I eat so much better when I'm getting regular exercise so I really feel like I need to get moving again.

                                                                                  I've committed to start eating greek yogurt for breakfast on a more regular basis. I don't love it but it's readily available here on campus. I had some this morning with strawberries and a little granola.

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                                                                                    roxlet Nov 11, 2013 10:29 AM

                                                                                    I'm a cheerios gal. Basically, I have a fruit salad with Cheerios. One ounce of cereal (2 pts), 1/2 cup of skim (1 pt) and a small banana, some raspberries and some blueberries, blackberries or strawberries. Whatever I can get at Costco. I find that the Greek yogurt doesn't hold me as well. I like a yogurt for a snack in the afternoon though. Have you tried stirring in a tablespoon of apple butter? Sort of tastes like a creamy apple pie if you have good apple butter.

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                                                                                      Kontxesi Nov 11, 2013 10:33 AM

                                                                                      Mmm. Cheerios and bananas. I have to admit, I haven't been eating breakfast lately. And by lately, I mean... like the past four months. I really need to get back to it.

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                                                                                        ziggylu Nov 11, 2013 11:07 AM

                                                                                        Funny! Cereal doesn't hold me at all. I have to eggs or some other kind of protein in the morning to hold me through to lunch. Over the summer i was eating ricotta or cottage cheese which I prefer to yogurt but I have to leave a lot earlier now. I can't bring myself to eat so early in the morning and yogurt is a lot easier to find on campus so I'm trying to switch to that. I need to get organized and boil up a bunch of eggs to be able to bring as well. Getting sick right when I switched jobs really messed me up in terms of trying to set up new routines.

                                                                                        I'll add a bit of jam or honey to it if the fruit isn't very good. I have a lot of fresh local dates at home right now. We grow the best dates here in AZ. I need to chop up some so I can bring and add to the yogurt easily.

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                                                                                          herby Nov 11, 2013 05:33 PM

                                                                                          Here in the great big North where snow is already flying, we do not grow dates. But recently I saw them at my small local grocery store. Ziggylu, please give me a short lesson on how to eat fresh dates :) How to tell when they are ripe, etc. TIA!

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                                                                                            ziggylu Nov 11, 2013 08:25 PM

                                                                                            mmmm....dates! They should be fresh at the store. Now is the time to get them as the harvest just finished in California where I believe most commercial dates in the US come from. As the year goes on they will dry out a bit and not be as gooey. Still good but nothing like dates right at harvest.

                                                                                            Look for the medjool which are the big meaty ones. Costco carries them though I've never bought theirs(I have friends that say they are good though). If I can't get the local ones either at the farmers markets or here on campus, I usually buy dates at one of the local middle eastern stores. I find they tend to have really good ones. One of the shops in Scottsdale gets the most amazing medjool dates from a boutique grower in California. I've never seen just big dates and they are so good.

                                                                                            Just eat them out of hand. They are like candy and a great evening treat if you have a night time sweet tooth. I like to toss them in my smoothies and cook them in my oatmeal rather than using other sweetners. My husband loves them too so we use them in salads and pilafs.

                                                                                            Fresh dates are listed as free on weight watchers but do be aware they are very high in natural sugars and calories. I find them so sweet I can't eat more than two at a time so natural portion control is built into them. For a great afternoon pick me up snack stuff a couple with an almond(or walnut or pecan). I have some friends that use them instead of GU when doing distance running and cycling. Tastes much better and delivers lots of great nutrients

                                                                                            If you are ever in Phoenix in the winter try and get your hands on some Black Sphinx variety. They only grow here and are too soft to ship. Best date you will ever eat. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/jack...

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                                                                                              herby Nov 12, 2013 04:15 AM

                                                                                              Many thanks! The dates I saw are yellow and look like fresh olives. I'll buy some when I see them again and try. Sounds delicious!

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                                                                                                roxlet Nov 12, 2013 04:36 AM

                                                                                                Are those fresh dates, or new crop dates? I thought that the ones that look like olives (as herby describes them) were different than the medjool dates that I see at Costco, which I would call new crop dates. I used to see the olive-looking ones all the time in Cario at this time of year, but the ones I bought and ate were the brown, slightly wrinkly ones.

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                                                                                                  ziggylu Nov 12, 2013 06:55 AM

                                                                                                  The yellow ones are probably Barhi dates in the Kahlal stage. They are crunchy at this stage. It's harder to find those dates out here but most middle eastern stores will have them this time of year. They will ripen, turn a bit darker and softer with time. They are considered a delicacy during the crunch phase, though I admit I like my dates chewier.

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                                                                                                    roxlet Nov 12, 2013 07:03 AM

                                                                                                    Yes, I do too!

                                                                                    2. fldhkybnva Nov 7, 2013 01:26 PM

                                                                                      What are your strategies for the holidays? Other than the actual holidays when it's about food choices, do you try to lower calories or eat differently in the weeks leading up the holidays? I'm a bit of a lurker on the WW threads. I don't do WW formally, but I grew up with a mom who went every week religiously and so now just by habit my eating usually falls in line with the WW philosophy.

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                                                                                        roxlet Nov 7, 2013 02:50 PM

                                                                                        Wow! Really? According to the amount of meat and cheese you consume, it seems that you are far more in line with something like Atkins or South Beach. Atkins, maybe. The average person on maintenance gets about 32 points a day (about 26 points+ during the weight loss phase). One ounce of cheese -- which is approximately the size of the tip of your thumb -- is 3 points+. Three ounces of most steak is about 5-7 points+ depending on how lean it is, and 3 ounces of steak is not a hell of a lot! I admire the amount of rich food you consume, but I really don't think it has anything to do with Weight Watchers!

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                                                                                          fldhkybnva Nov 7, 2013 03:08 PM

                                                                                          I'm not that crazy :) I usually eat only grass fed cuts and lean ones at that and a ton of chicken and turkey. I think I just rave more about my cheese and meat meals but most meals are simple chicken with veggies though I probably do accumulate calories in meat and cheese though my calories aren't astronomically high but yes I do fall more in the Atkins realm but my fat intake is nowhere near Atkins level, but I guess you're right. I guess the ideas I get here are more of the minimizing fat or carbs and are usually good, for example, yogurt type dressings and things like that which I'll choose any day over a mayo based dressing.

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                                                                                            weezieduzzit Nov 7, 2013 03:27 PM

                                                                                            You might align with Stillman's more than Atkins but fat thing in Atkins is a percentage of overall calories, not a percentage by volume so you might fall more in line with it than you think. It really doesn't take much added fat if you're eating meat and cheese- a pat of butter here, a bit of good oil there for cooking and you're there.

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                                                                                            Kontxesi Nov 8, 2013 03:45 AM

                                                                                            I don't know. I mean, I could easily do a more Atkins-type diet within my points. Granted, I'm at 41 right now, so I'm at the fatty end of things and can eat a lot more. But for me, I find the number of points in a piece of (good) bread to be much more problematic than meat. (Also, 7 points for a 3 ounce steak? Is that a 2:1 ratio of fat:meat?!)

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                                                                                              roxlet Nov 8, 2013 04:14 AM

                                                                                              The 7 points+ are for a porterhouse. Filet mignon has the fewest points.

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                                                                                                Kontxesi Nov 11, 2013 03:30 AM

                                                                                                Interesting. I have found myself eating filet just because they are small and manageable. (And because I get them for free. If I were paying for my steaks, I probably just wouldn't eat steak at all! :p )

                                                                                                Starting this Saturday, though, we're getting into venison steaks! I still haven't built the work table or ordered the new butchering knives yet, though. I'm such a slacker. :/

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                                                                                            Kontxesi Nov 8, 2013 03:48 AM

                                                                                            I haven't changed anything to lead up to the holidays, but I probably should. I've been trying to come up with good plan-friendly recipes for Thanksgiving, but the more I think about it, I don't want to! The stuff I really enjoy about Tday is fatty and carby and I love it. I think I'm just going to not worry about that day at all.

                                                                                            They tell us in the meetings to try to change the focus of our holidays from food to family. I think for "normal" people, that might be doable, but for people like us who take great pleasure in our food? At least for me, minimizing the food element of the upcoming holidays would be deeply saddening.

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                                                                                              fldhkybnva Nov 8, 2013 03:57 AM

                                                                                              I tend to be less creative at this time which means easy baked chicken and seasonings which often translates into lighter meals. I don't hold back that week as it's an enjoyable time as long as you're not being a glutton and rolling around in pain but I will certainly eat more mashed potatoes and turkey and geavy than a human should. Fortunately I love turkey so that fills me up and I like to make room for more of that so avoid anything else I don't particularly like which also fortunately includes sweets. I usually have a slice of apple and sweet potato all weekend and I'm good. I have finally learned to stop having so many desserts since they just go to waste. But I guess it's a habit in wanting to have a full spread. This year it's 2 pies and some pints of ice cream in case of a random craving.

                                                                                              I try to balance it. My deep love for this holiday is family as it's the few times in the year when we stop to spend at least a day and usually the weekend together. Even if its just so and I. There's no work allowed and just relaxing and enjoying each others company and then you add the wonderful food bounty and it completes it for me.

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                                                                                                Kontxesi Nov 11, 2013 03:33 AM

                                                                                                My downfall is stuffing, gravy, and ROLLS. God, I love some bread. I eat some mashed potatoes, but they definitely aren't something that keeps me up at night. They aren't even on my menu so far, actually! If a family member doesn't bring them, the probably won't be on the table.

                                                                                                When it comes to dessert, I am not nearly as bad as I used to be. I used to pig out on sweets whether they were good or not. Now I'd rather not have any than eat something sub-par. But for the fall/winter holidays, my mom makes this AMAZING chocolate cheese pie. Luckily, it's gone so fast that I often to have the chance to eat more than one slice!

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                                                                                              roxlet Nov 8, 2013 04:16 AM

                                                                                              We go to San Diego for Thanksgiving to be with my husband's mother and sister's family. Naturally, rjbh20 cooks all the food. I make the desserts, and travel to SD with frozen pie crusts that I've previously made. My strategy is to shut my mouth, Lol!

                                                                                            3. roxlet Nov 7, 2013 09:30 AM

                                                                                              Pretty much flat this week. Need to get losing again...:(

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                                                                                                herby Nov 7, 2013 04:52 PM

                                                                                                Same here, a bit more up than flat :( What is amazing to me is that I feel good and that I've lost a # or two this week and my home scale agrees but not WW one. Oh, well...

                                                                                                I've been wearing my pedometer and went from walking 2-3,000 steps to 7-8,000 - very proud of it and very conscious about moving. Been eating well too but not tracking faithfully, so maybe this is the problem or rather eating problem that I do not see because I wasn't tracking carefully.

                                                                                                Let's post good meals that we eat and share recipes and tips and such!

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                                                                                                  roxlet Nov 7, 2013 06:04 PM

                                                                                                  I just posted my dinner tonight on WFD -- thin cut loin pork chops, which I brined, then seared and topped with baked ratatouille. It was really delicious.

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                                                                                                    herby Nov 7, 2013 07:32 PM

                                                                                                    Your dinner sounds deliciously healthy, Roxlet!

                                                                                                    I neither read nor contribute to WFD; it is too overwhelming and dinner is not a big meal for me unless I am out with friends or entertaining, and this is a weekend event maybe 2-3 times per month.

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                                                                                                      OhioHound Nov 8, 2013 04:48 AM

                                                                                                      Baked ratatouille sounds great, roxlet! Care to share your recipe?

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                                                                                                        roxlet Nov 8, 2013 05:04 AM

                                                                                                        Sure! It's not really a recipe, but this is what I do:

                                                                                                        Cut an eggplant, a couple of zucchini, onions, red peppers and tomatoes (or grape tomatoes cut in half) in more or less equal-sized pieces. I like to add a serrano for a little heat, and this I chop very finely. Place all the vegetables on a sheet pan (I cover the pan with a piece of parchment to make clean-up easier), sprinkle with some oregano and olive oil, and bake in a very hot oven (400-450). Stir every 15 minutes or so to make sure that the vegetables are cooking evenly since the ones around the edge seem to bake faster. When the vegetable are almost done (I like them soft), sprinkle 2 cloves of finely chopped garlic, stir, and cook until the vegetables are done. That's it.

                                                                                                        This is very good as a vegetable side dish eaten warm or room temperature, but I also like to use it as a base for an egg white frittata. I find that the serrano adds a lot, but then, I like spicy food!

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                                                                                                          OhioHound Nov 8, 2013 08:48 AM

                                                                                                          Thanks, sounds wonderful.
                                                                                                          I wonder if canned tomatoes could be substituted for fresh in the winter months.. Have you tried this?

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                                                                                                            herby Nov 8, 2013 10:02 AM

                                                                                                            I'll post a recipe from River Cottage Veg when I get home. It is made similarly to Roxlet's (high temp. oven) but tomatoes are made into a sauce and all are combined at the end - the best ratatoulle I've ever had!
                                                                                                            Found this one online: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandsty... It is not the same but interesting recipes there.

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                                                                                                              roxlet Nov 8, 2013 10:14 AM

                                                                                                              No. But the reason I like making it this way is because the vegetables remain distinct, and it doesn't get soupy. To tell the truth, I forgot tomatoes this time even though I had bought some grape tomatoes expressly for this purpose. I didn't really miss them. You could use canned tomatoes, but I'd add them late after making sure that they were seeded, juiced, and drained.

                                                                                                  2. EWSflash Nov 6, 2013 06:50 PM

                                                                                                    Easter is my Waterloo.

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                                                                                                      roxlet Nov 6, 2013 07:30 PM

                                                                                                      Chocolate?

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                                                                                                        EWSflash Nov 29, 2013 08:41 PM

                                                                                                        Marshmallow and chocolate, Peeps, and the like.

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                                                                                                          roxlet Nov 30, 2013 11:14 AM

                                                                                                          I have a soft spot for Peeps myself.

                                                                                                    2. herby Nov 3, 2013 12:50 PM

                                                                                                      Cauliflower Puree

                                                                                                      I made this recipe http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ge... with a few small changes. Instead of raw garlic I cooked three small garlic cloves with the cauliflower and pureed them together. Instead of cream cheese I used two pieces of low fat smiling cow. Omitted butter and chives but added about 2T of half-&-half. It turned out very well and really looks like mashed potatoes, doesn't taste like potatoes but I think will work as a substitute.

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                                                                                                        ziggylu Nov 5, 2013 07:03 PM

                                                                                                        Thanks, herby! I'm going to give it another go!

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                                                                                                          herby Nov 6, 2013 03:33 PM

                                                                                                          You are welcome, I hope you like it. I had it today for lunch with Asian style short ribs and enjoyed; didn't miss potato mash at all!

                                                                                                          Weigh-in tomorrow evening and since I weighed last on Sat morning I am a bit worried. Will report tomorrow.

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                                                                                                        Kontxesi Nov 3, 2013 07:54 AM

                                                                                                        Well, so much for following up on last week's loss. A cold rolled in yesterday afternoon, and knowing my luck, it will stivk around for a week. No real hope for the scale on Wednesday. :-(

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                                                                                                          roxlet Nov 3, 2013 07:58 AM

                                                                                                          I know the feeling, but Wednesday is far away! Don't give up! Lots of soup will help.

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                                                                                                            ziggylu Nov 3, 2013 08:53 AM

                                                                                                            Sorry you're sick Kontxesi. YOu have my sympathies....it's 8 days later and I'm STILL sick. Slept over 12 hours last night so clearly my body is still trying to recover. Try not to worry about the scale while you are sick. Give your body the things it needs - fluids, soups, nutrients - and you'll be fine in the long run. Hope you kick it quickly. I don't know what it is going around out here in Arizona but I do know I"m not the only one saying "I don't thing I've ever had a cold that just won't go away like this one" It's definitely some kind of strong mean bug!

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                                                                                                              Kontxesi Nov 4, 2013 03:12 AM

                                                                                                              Yeah, last time I had a cold it lasted at least a week. I tend to have really distinct phases.... Sneezing, then runny nose, then congestion, then coughing. I'm still in the congestion phase, so I think I've got a way to go. I can handle the coughing usually. The congestion is the worst phase. :( DayQuil for breakfast.

                                                                                                              I drank over a quart of hot cider yesterday. It helped, but I took in a lot of sugar.

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                                                                                                                roxlet Nov 4, 2013 04:50 AM

                                                                                                                Hot tea instead, maybe?

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                                                                                                                  Kontxesi Nov 4, 2013 05:12 AM

                                                                                                                  Not much on tea, unfortunately. I had to use up the cider anyway, as it's not pasteurized and would have started going hard within a few days. Not that big a deal, really, I just don't normally drink my calories.

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                                                                                                                    herby Nov 4, 2013 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                    I find that hot water with ginger and a bit of cayenne and honey helps with congestion. Steam bath followed by a lot of hot tea or water with lemon and honey works very well too.

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                                                                                                                      ziggylu Nov 4, 2013 07:24 AM

                                                                                                                      I"ve been drinking tons of tea. I drink tea a lot anyhow but try some lemon tea and honey if you can...it's good for the throat and the cough.

                                                                                                                      Still coughing today. ugh. Did get on the bathroom scale this morning....at least soup is low in calories as there's no damage done yet. I miss working out a lot though and hope to be able to soon as I'm feeling well enough now that I'm starting to feel like a slug from lack of activity. I have a history of persistent asthmatic type cough though so I have ot be careful not to push to hard too soon. sigh....

                                                                                                                      I"ve been eating tons of chicken soup. Mostly from the deli at the grocery store as I didn't want to force my husband to make soup for me. A squeeze of lemon really help improve any sort of prepared soup!

                                                                                                                      Hope you are feeling better soon!

                                                                                                            2. herby Nov 2, 2013 05:24 PM

                                                                                                              Went for my weigh-in today and down 1.7 - happy but know this is not true number; morning instead of evening and two days later then my usual weigh-in. Still nice :) I like this meeting better than my usual but need to go a couple more times to make sure. It is on Sat morning which is not ideal but doable and my Thu leader is there helping out with weighing people - a bit awkward but I can deal with it.

                                                                                                              The weight is coming off very slowly but as I thought about my journey so far I realized that there are changes in me that happened during this time. Not only I am much more conscious about the quantity of food that I eat but also I am making constant effort to increase my physical activity; i.e. my steps/day count tripled. And this is conscious effort and not an accident. Long way to go still and not just in weight to loose but mainly in lifestyle change because without it regardless of how much weight I loose I'll be back to where I started in a year or two and I do not want that to happen EVER!

                                                                                                              Just musing :)

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                                                                                                                roxlet Nov 2, 2013 05:35 PM

                                                                                                                I am completely with you on this, herby. It is a lifestyle change, and unless we cop to it, we'll be back exactly where we started.

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                                                                                                                ziggylu Nov 1, 2013 01:42 PM

                                                                                                                I've been cooking Thanksgiving dinner for our family for almost 20 years now. Fortunately we don't go overboard with the menu so it's not too bad.

                                                                                                                We do our Turkey out on our Big Green Egg so that's simple and not doused in butter or other stuff. My dad loves mashed potatoes but I make them with nonfat milk and don't load on butter here either. I make a cornbread stuffing from Julee Rosso's Great Good Food cookbook that is relatively healthy(no added oil, no egg yolks, etc). A greek salad rounds out the meal along with pumpkin pie. so as far as holidays go, it could be much worse

                                                                                                                It's the Christmas treats and parties for hte month afterwards that are the bigger challenge! I love baking and haven't done much the last several months so lots of latent desire to bake with the season approaching and the Arizona summer finally over. My next door neighbor is going to love me. LOL

                                                                                                                Still coughinh. Still not exercising. My appetite is back today. My lingering cough may prove to be a bigger challenge than the holidays if I can't get back to exercising soon!

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                                                                                                                  roxlet Nov 2, 2013 07:04 AM

                                                                                                                  Sorry about the persistent cough, ziggylu! Can you paraphrase the cornbread stuffing? Ours has a ton of butter in it, but I guess that a tablespoon of anything isn't going to hurt me...

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                                                                                                                    ziggylu Nov 3, 2013 09:48 AM

                                                                                                                    I can't find the actual recipe - i think i gave the cookbook away! But here's how I make it:

                                                                                                                    Dry out some cornbread cubes ahead of time

                                                                                                                    Saute some onion, celery in a little olive oil.

                                                                                                                    Mix this with the cornbread cubes, Add diced apples and pears. Toss in some fresh sage, thyme, parsley and a little rosemary. If you like some toasted walnuts or pecans. Some years I put in some crumbed and cooked lean hot turkey sausage. Moisten with chicken broth and marsala wine. Bake until brown on top(I don't stuff the turkey). You can whip egg whites and fold in if you like it fluffier, my family prefers without.

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                                                                                                                      rjbh20 Nov 6, 2013 05:08 PM

                                                                                                                      It has considerably less than a ton -- just what's needed to sweat the veg. All told, it's a comparatively lean stuffing.

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                                                                                                                    valerie Nov 1, 2013 12:22 PM

                                                                                                                    I hadn't weighed in for 2 weeks. Got on my scale at home and I was down a pound. Went to a local center rather than my usual at-work meeting and I was up .2. Yes, I was wearing jeans, yes it was a different scale....not tragic, but still I was annoyed.

                                                                                                                    So I let myself eat a bunch of bite-sized Butterfingers yesterday and a few Snickers bites and today is a new day and a new week and I keep moving ahead.

                                                                                                                    Anyway, we go to my sister's for Thanksgiving but I'm still always searching for good recipes. I saw this one for Roasted Carrot Soup and I thought it sounded good. One could probably cut back on the butter and it would be fairly low in points.

                                                                                                                    http://userealbutter.com/2013/10/27/r...

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                                                                                                                      Kontxesi Nov 1, 2013 07:10 AM

                                                                                                                      Unfortunately, Thanksgiving is THREE days for us! My parents are divorced and both remarried, and live close enough that we go to both houses. My boyfriend's family isn't exactly compatible with mine, so none of our meals can be combined. :-(

                                                                                                                      The meal for his family is at our house this year, so I've been scouring the web for some relatively healthy sides for me to fill up on.

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                                                                                                                        roxlet Nov 1, 2013 08:34 AM

                                                                                                                        The thing about Thanksgiving is that it doesn't have to be fattening. Start with a simple soup to help you fill up. Turkey is low in points (easy on the gravy!), and be creative with low-point sides. Stuffed mushrooms, anyone. Then there is dessert, of course...

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                                                                                                                          Kontxesi Nov 6, 2013 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                          Flat this week. Since I was sick, I should be glad, but I can't help but be bummed.

                                                                                                                          Oops. Posted in the wrong place. I hate doing this on my phone....

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                                                                                                                            ziggylu Nov 7, 2013 08:55 AM

                                                                                                                            Given you were sick, try not to be bummed. I'm still hacking up my lungs and congested and heading back to the doctor today. Still not able to work out. Haven't bothered tracking. The scale at home says flat, we'll see at weigh in tonight. I've been working tons of hours too.

                                                                                                                            I need to feel better soon....I"m at the point where I"m just blah all the time which isn't great for food or exercise choices. I had a bagel for breakfast this morning for the first time in months and months. Slippery slope and all that

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                                                                                                                              Kontxesi Nov 7, 2013 10:24 AM

                                                                                                                              Geez! What do you have that's lasting so long? I fell ill on Saturday afternoon and was mostly over it by the time I got home from work on Tuesday. I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with it! :(

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                                                                                                                                ziggylu Nov 7, 2013 02:41 PM

                                                                                                                                History of hypersensitive lungs. Came home with an inhaler and a nasal steroid to see if that works. Waiting for a chest xray right now. Bah. Things were going so well too.

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                                                                                                                                  Kontxesi Nov 8, 2013 03:41 AM

                                                                                                                                  Man. :( When I was a kid, I had bronchiolitis for six weeks. Inhalers, lots of doctor visits.... I've never been sick like that since, though. Hopefully never again.

                                                                                                                                  I hope they get it knocked out soon! Being sick for more than about 5 days at a time always throws me for a loop for WEEKS after. :(

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                                                                                                                                    ziggylu Nov 8, 2013 07:05 AM

                                                                                                                                    Yeah, unfortunately this happens to me anytime I get sick. Fortunately not very often, last time was about 4 years ago.

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                                                                                                                          herby Nov 1, 2013 09:59 AM

                                                                                                                          Our T-Day is over and here are a few suggestions for yummy and points friendly sides.

                                                                                                                          Carrot Ginger soup from 150 Best is indeed the best carrot soup. Just carrots, ginger, oil (easy to reduce quatity to reasonable) and turkey stock.

                                                                                                                          Brussel spouts - steamed and shocked, haved, rewarmed just before serving and briefly stir-fried with carraway seeds.

                                                                                                                          Root vegetables roasted with garlic (later squeezed all over veggies), rosemary and a little oil. A little lemon juice just before serving gives veggies nice fresh zing.

                                                                                                                          I have not made cauliflower pure because someone brought mashed potatoes but people rave about it. I am going to try it next week since I have 1/2 large one sitting on the balcony.

                                                                                                                          Sweet potato wedges or chips cooked in the oven are also very tasty and points friendly.

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                                                                                                                            ziggylu Nov 1, 2013 01:44 PM

                                                                                                                            Can you share your cauliflower puree recipe? I made mashed cauliflower once many years ago and it was terrible(likely the recipe) so I've stuck to roasting my cauliflower ever since. Wouldn't mind finding a good recipe for puree!

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                                                                                                                              herby Nov 2, 2013 05:32 PM

                                                                                                                              Ziggylu, I will be making cauliflower pure tomorrow with subtle changes that I think will improve the taste. I'll post the better version, OK?

                                                                                                                              Do you like roasted carrots? Planning to make those too tomorrow, and goulash, and lamb chops dish. That should provide enough food and variety for the week in addition to freezer stash to supplement as needed :)

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