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Help! I am at wits' end. I am hoping you can help me with my Great Pizza Dilemma.

I just moved to LA from New Jersey. I am a pizza fanatic and I'm very particular (OK, a little crazed) about my pizza. It must be a big, floppy, greasy, cheesy New York style slice. I will accept no substitutes. Places like Pizzeria Mozza or Masa are nice, I even like them, but it ain't pizza.

To that end, I've been going to pizza places all over town looking for the right place, but I haven't quite found it yet, so I wanted to ask for suggestions. I have tried these places and while they were all very good, they weren't didn't quite hit my hit my "this is it! This is the perfect pizza!" button, (so i.e. suggest a place other than one of these):

Vito's

Lamonica's

Joe's in Santa Monica

Joe's in Hollywood

Valentino's in Manhattan Beach

LaRocco's

Village Pizzeria (both locations)

So my question is: where can I get a big, greasy, floppy, New York style pizza slice or pie other than these places I've mentioned? I especially like places that know how to put to on extra cheese: this is a picture of precisely what I have in mind.

And please no philosophical discussions about whether I have the "right" taste in pizza; you can argue that Mozza is better all day and I won't be convinced; I'm too far gone for that. I just want to find a place that has the kind of pizza I described for myself, I'm not saying it's what everyone on the planet should be eating.

 
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  1. Based on your last paragraph, I know you know that your "it ain't pizza" really means "it ain't the kind of pizza I'm looking for", unlike the OP in this thread (http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/918596) who insisted L.A. didn't have any "REAL" Italian and meant it, but someone is probably still gonna pick on the "it ain't pizza" line...

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    1. re: PeterCC

      I've never eaten pizza in New York, so this may be completely wrong but from the good Captain's description I think this might be closer to what he's looking for. I've had pizza at Amalfi on La Brea (eaten upstairs at Room 5) and they have pretty thin crusted pizzas baked on a wood fired oven. The slices are pretty floppy and the pizza is a bit greasy. You only get a pies that are sliced, but no single slices. If you're in the area you might give it a shot. http://amalfiristorante.com/menu/dinner/

    2. I thought I replied to this yesterday but here goes. I recommend Brooklyn Pizza on Tampa just south of Saticoy if you're in the Valley. I also recommend Enzo's on Weyburn in Westwood Village.

      Brooklyn Pizza is a real hole in the wall. Probably my favorite pizza in California. I'm not a fan of designer or haute cuisine pizza so the appeal of Mozza is lost on me. LOL

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      1. re: Kate is always hungry

        Sometimes the best pizzas at the mid-to-high end pizza places like Mozza, Stella Barra, Settabello, Sotto, and even more affordable places like 800 degrees, are the Margherita with simple but really good quality ingredients. Many (most?) are Neapolitan style, which is different than New York style, but I wouldn't say they're designer or haute cuisine just because of that.

        1. re: PeterCC

          I liked the pizza I had at 800 Degrees and Pizza Rev. They were, of course, Margherita or just simple cheese and tomato sauce. I just can't get into other things on my pizza. Go figure!

          1. re: Kate is always hungry

            Depends on my mood. Sometimes I like a simple pizza. Sometimes I want all kinds of crap on my pizza. :-)

          1. re: Jack Flash

            You can request a thin crust at Petrillo's but, it still ain't a NY pie.

            1. re: JAB

              Its freek'in delicious. Get the Petrillo's Special.

              1. re: bringiton

                You don't have to sell me. I'm a believer but, again it's no NY pie.

        1. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the fact is that there really aren't any great examples (that I'm aware of) of the type of pie you crave. I've had the kind of pizza you like, back east, and unfortunately Vito's and LaMonica's are about the best there is of that species (I haven't been to either Joe's outpost, and that supposedly has an east coast pedigree).

          There's a place out in Pasadena called Brothers' Pies & Fries. Leave aside the gimmicky name and menu, and concentrate on what actually matters (the food). I think they do a credible slice.

           
          1. You want it super cheesy and greasy? Sounds like you're crying out for Joe Peeps.

            12460 Magnolia Blvd. Valley Village, CA 91607

            http://www.joepeeps.com

             
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            1. re: Arthur

              I love fucking Joe Peeps. But why haven't I been back sooner ?

              Anyhow, I don't think it's really a NY style slice.

              1. re: kevin

                I also love Joe Peep's and, you're right, it isn't the greasy, floppy mouth-burning New Haven/NY pizza. I was hoping they could make a clam pie for me but, alas, they couldn't.

                1. re: mucho gordo

                  they have a thin crust called the blue collar special that might but up the op's alley.

                  by the description of big and floppy, i'd think grecos may be the place. there's also pagliacci's

              2. It might help if you told us which places in NY you consider your kinds of places. I think you have hit what I consider some of the best representations of NY style pizza in LA. Grimaldi's is due to hit El Segundo soon, but knowing Grimaldi's, I don't think it fits your bill either.

                1. Try Casa Bianca http://casabiancapizza.com/ and see how it works for you. I also think that Arthur's suggestion of Joe Peep's is a solid one too.

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                  1. re: Servorg

                    i don't think the way casa bianca cuts the pizza will cut it for the OP.

                    1. re: linus

                      As long as they order a Sausage and Eggplant pie I bet it won't matter how it's cut.

                      Here's a great thread and lovely post by HoundDogz on the greatness of Casa Bianca from 2008: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5438...

                      And are they cutting them differently now from when this photo http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5438... got posted by monku in the thread I linked to?

                      1. re: Servorg

                        well, i can't speak for the OP, but they certainly don't cut the pizza in traditional pie shaped slices.
                        it's supposedly cut into small squares, but, frankly, the pieces all seem irregular to me. i can't really tell how the pizza is cut from the photo.
                        i like the pizza there, but the way they cut it drives me nuts. it's hard to get an intact piece.

                        1. re: Servorg

                          If you look closely, you'll see that the pictured pie is not cut into traditional slices, but rather into the wedges/squares being discussed.

                          1. re: Jack Flash

                            Now I get why my buddy ordered the pie "standard cut" (or however he phrased it). Didn't even realize they used another way of cutting...But does it really affect the taste? I'll have to go back and try it their "normal" cut style and see if my enjoyment is lessened.

                            1. re: Servorg

                              I never had to say "standard fucking cut". But somehow it's always cut the triangle way that we are all beyond used to.

                              Maybe it's because I always order a Medium size there for myself and devour it like nobody's business.

                              Damn, now I really want to hit up Casa Bianca. I'd prolly give someone $10 bucks to wait in line for me since the pizza is so dirt cheap anyhow.

                              1. re: Servorg

                                I actually kind of prefer the Casa Bianca square cut. It doesn't have the flop and fold properties of a trad. NY slice, but I like the textural variations between pieces and I find the slice size more manageable - particularly loaded down with fennel sausage and fried eggplant.

                                Hmm, maybe it's a pizza night ...

                                1. re: Savour

                                  i like the outer pieces, but i find it difficult to deal with the inner pieces.
                                  to each their own.

                          2. re: linus

                            Yeah, the "cut" won't cut it, not by a mile.

                            Joe Peeps is OK, but if the OP didn't like Vito's, LaMonica's or Joe's, they're probably not going to like Joe Peep's, either.

                            Do go ahead and try them, of course, but don't get your hopes up too much.

                            1. re: linus

                              As long as they don't order larger than a medium then they will be OK with the slicing. I think it's the large to x-large or maybe just the x=large and x=large that are sliced in that fucked up manner with tthe square slices in the middle. Having said that, I still really like the place.

                              1. re: kevin

                                kevin, are you saying casa bianca cuts everything but the large and xtra large the "normal" way? in pie shaped big triangles? we've only ever gotten large and xtra large.

                                and serv, i don't know if it affects the taste per se, but it sure affects the enjoyment of the pizza.
                                i will attempt to remind my personal pizza picker upper to ask them to cut it the normal way and see if they will.

                                1. re: linus

                                  yeah, i'm not positive if it's the large or x-large that's the cut-off for the square slices in the interior.

                                  but as long as i've been going there i always order the Medium for myself and it's about 6 trinagular slices, and no squares.

                                  1. re: linus

                                    <It sure affects the enjoyment of the pizza>

                                    They could cut it in circles and I'd still love it and not think twice.
                                    The large and x-large are usually cut in squares unless it's requested otherwise. Most people would be eating it off their lap if they didn't cut it that way.
                                    If someone wants it cut into triangles all they have to do is ask.

                                    1. re: latindancer

                                      i like casa bianca's pizza, but you only reinforce my point. the integrity of the pizza is disappointing. when i ever i try and pick up one of those little "squares," as you call them, the whole topping slides off.
                                      frankly, i don't think they're squares, anyway. i've stared down that pizza any number of times, and i think the lines are truly random.

                                      i guess i'll try asking.

                                      1. re: linus

                                        The perfect square pizza is Barone's and if anyone objects to topping sliding off 800 Degrees is the biggest offender I know.

                                        1. re: linus

                                          I can't think of anyone I know who's complained about the shape(s) of the pizza at Casa Bianca.
                                          Once it's come to the table it's a virtual chow-fest and nobody's thinking of how they're going to get it in their mouths.
                                          It's just done with gusto.
                                          Seriously? The toppings fall off those small 'squares'?
                                          That's a first I've heard of.

                                          1. re: latindancer

                                            I loved their pizza. Then again I like it cheesy and on the greasy side. We used to have a place out here by our house (where the Tlapazola Grill just closed) called Yammie Pizza and that was exactly the sort of pizza they produced. I still mourn their passing. I just wish I lived closer to Casa B (although for my health's sake it's probably a good thing I don't).

                                            1. re: Servorg

                                              Yammie Pizza is still in the plaza with Tlapozala Grill ?????

                                              Wait or did Tlapozala just close ?????

                                              1. re: kevin

                                                Tlapozala just closed a month ago

                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                  oh, shit.

                                                  well, that makes sense considering i haven't been in quite a number of years.

                                                  double shit.

                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                    i believe that the tlapazola in venice is still open.

                                              2. re: Servorg

                                                I'm pretty sure if I biked around town like you do…I'd find a way, in my mind, to justify a 'Casa B' pizza once in awhile :-).
                                                I've found a way on the backstreets, without the freeways, to zip up there whenever the urge arises.
                                                I too love greasy, cheesy pizzas…

                                                1. re: latindancer

                                                  They are also cheek by jowl with Cacao Mexicatessen, Oinkster, Le Petit Beaujolais, Senor Fish and Spitz Doner Kebab...

                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                    When I moved to this area, people asked "Why?"

                                                    Now I look at my food choices and cackle with glee...

                                                    1. re: Servorg

                                                      Sounds like the proverbial fucking food crawl to me.

                                                      1. re: Servorg

                                                        I've always felt those Occidental College students don't know how lucky they are…or maybe they do.
                                                        It's a virtual food extravaganza.

                                                  2. re: latindancer

                                                    there's a first time for everything. this is my experience with many, many casa bianca pizzas.
                                                    while i find them tasty, i don't think it's what the OP is looking for. remember the OP?

                                                    1. re: linus

                                                      We may remember. But I believe he or she has left us for good.

                                                      1. re: linus

                                                        The OP wants "big, floppy, greasy, cheesy" pizza.

                                                        Casa Bianca is the first place I think of.
                                                        Hopefully the OP, who nobody's forgotten I'm sure, finds it and experiences it.

                                                        1. re: latindancer

                                                          I'm still here, but I gave up on getting any useful information here a long time ago...

                                                          1. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                            The most useful info is that there is nothing in LA proper.

                                                            2 places in Orange County, for some reason.

                                                            It is what it is.

                                                            1. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                              There are many of us who're in agreement that Casa Bianca, although not a favorite of a few, is well worth the effort.
                                                              If you don't, you're missing out on something that could be just what you're looking for based on your description.
                                                              Hope you try it.

                                                            2. re: latindancer

                                                              if the op wants "big, floppy, greasy, cheesy," casa bianca is about the last place i think of.

                                                              ain't life funny?

                                                              1. re: linus

                                                                I don't think it passes the floppy test so well, but greasy and cheesy? Oh yeah, it clears that hurdle and hits the tape in first place.

                                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                                  i'm going to disagree on the greasy and cheesy part. i find the amount of cheese just fine, but wouldn't call it above average in cheesiness.
                                                                  and i don't find it particularly greasy, either.

                                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                                    i agree usually went i grab a medium especially with the fried eggplant to gild the lilly it was quite greasy, and that's no joke.

                                                  3. re: linus

                                                    will they not cut it the way you want it? When I order a pizza anywhere I tell them 8 slices NY Pie cut.

                                                    1. re: gr8pimpin

                                                      They did for us. My friend went there all the time. I don't know if that made a difference or not. But really, why would they care what shape you wanted it cut into as long as it wasn't a pentagram or something? Probably easier to do a "pie" shaped cut in any case.

                                                      1. re: Servorg

                                                        A pentagram, LOL! That would be amusing to see the look on someones face...

                                                      2. re: gr8pimpin

                                                        This whole Casa Bianca sub thread is entertaining, but is totally off topic.

                                                        I'm from New Jersey. Casa Bianca is absolutely nothing anywhere even close to being in the realm of what the OP is looking for. Hell, if Vito's or Joe's plain slice (with extra cheese) doesn't satisfy this guy, then I'm really at a loss myself.

                                                        To well-meaning 'hounds-- if you've never lived in the area (NJ), you're really stabbing in the dark, blindfolded, dizzy and drunk. It's an incredibly specific regional thing the OP is looking for, and the only way to know it is to know it (that sloshy looking slice in his pic brings back long-ago forgotten memories, and not necessarily good ones.)

                                                        By all means, continue with the Casa Bianca sub-thread if it entertains you, but realize that you may as well be talking about frozen concentrated orange juice. CB has absolutely no relation to what the OP is seeking out (he's basically said as much in his original post.)

                                                        Mr Taster

                                                        1. re: Mr Taster

                                                          CB is thin-crust Chicago bar style if I'm not mistaken.

                                                          1. re: kevin

                                                            Which is why I'm banging my head against the monitor that people keep recommending it, when the OP is clearly looking for something else. He was extremely clear about that in his original post.

                                                            Mr Taster

                                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                                              I think there may have been an accompanying picture that threw some of our helpful hounds off in that the picture didn't look like NY pizza. ??? I don't know. Maybe that's the reason why there are a whole slew of other recommendations.

                                                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                taster - you are getting to sound like the board police man with your rants about "lox," hipsters and now this...doesn't bother me, but just saying dude in case it escaped you...

                                                                1. re: jessejames

                                                                  Hey, I know what the OP is looking for because 10 years ago, I was looking for it too-- and getting the same types of answers from well-meaning but uninformed 'hounds.

                                                                  NY eggrolls are another example of the "you either know it or you don't" school of Chowhounding. During my eggroll search, I had people recommending things that were SO wildly off base, it drove me nuts. Even some people who claimed to have grown up in NJ recommended eggrolls that turned out to be essentially deep fried meatballs. It would be the LA equivalent of someone looking for a great chili dog and being directed, by someone who claims to have grown up in LA, to a place that sells German bratwurst with kraut. And all the people who DIDN'T grow up on LA chili dogs say "but it's the same thing... it's a sausage with topping. What's the problem? Why are you being the hot dog police?" For the person who really knows the difference, it's crazymaking.

                                                                  Captain Jersey is going through the same thing and what he really needs are reliable replies from people who know precisely what he's talking about, and for those people to make specific, pointed recommendations. Posts that begin with "I've never been to NJ and don't know what you're talking about but what about...", while well meaning, are guaranteed to be not in the slightest bit helpful for this particular thread.

                                                                  Mr Taster

                                                                  1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                    I still enjoy the side banter. Never been to that spot. Respect.

                                                                    1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                      Or how about this?

                                                                      I'm from the Pacific Northwest. I came to LA many years ago asking for great seafood…somewhere, anywhere. I just wanted/needed and craved seafood like I'd left behind back home.
                                                                      I came to realize, after many months of asking and inquiring, that there just isn't the seafood in LA that I experienced where I grew up.
                                                                      Sometimes you just have to conclude that what you're looking for may just not be available.
                                                                      Learn to love what *IS* available in LA…forget about the pizza that apparently isn't to be found. Don't blame the 'uninformed 'hounds' for trying.
                                                                      I want great seafood? I go back to the PNW and quit, long ago, making myself crazy trying to find it here.

                                                                2. re: kevin

                                                                  Yes! That's exactly how my brother, Chicago pizza maven, describes CB's pizza. He loves it but it ain't New York pizza!

                                                                3. re: Mr Taster

                                                                  <if you've never lived in the area (NJ), you're really stabbing in the dark, blindfolded, dizzy and drunk>

                                                                  Oh, I've been, never lived…
                                                                  A little dizzy and drunk, for sure back then, years ago.
                                                                  You appear to be taking this very personally.
                                                                  When I moved to LA looking for food that I missed back home I asked, checked out the recommendations, went to the places recommended, made my own personal decisions and let it go when the recommendations didn't pan out. I spent a few months frustrated for not finding what I wanted but I can't ever remember a time when I blamed the people who tried to help me out.
                                                                  Chowhound people are, for the most part, extremely helpful.
                                                                  They take the time to pass on their own experiences and, for that, I think they deserve respect. Whether or not they get it right every single time is irrelevant to me. It's the thought and attempt that is.
                                                                  Just my own personal view.

                                                                  1. re: latindancer

                                                                    I agree with you. And I can say I am sensitive when I try to help someone with a recommendation (just like others help me) and, for example, a certain person who has admitted he has never been to a particular spot slams me and my opinion, or slams a group of people generally. It's rude and completely undercuts any respect I accord that person's posts. Hopefully this will stop.

                                                                    1. re: latindancer

                                                                      latindancer,

                                                                      There's a certain persnicketiness and arrogance about "our food", as in the regional fare of the NY tri-state area, that people from that region of the country have. New Yorkers tend to believe that they live in the best city on earth, and for many years of my youth, I also believed that was true. Then I moved to LA, visited Tokyo, Prague, Hong Kong, London, Paris, Taipei, Jerusalem, Bangkok (I'm intentionally leaving out Phnom Penh and Beijing, and a several eastern European soviet bloc countries...) and realized that New Yorkers need their perspectives shaken up a bit. So, I have no problem with your recommendation that people embrace what this city has to offer-- the problem is, CaptainJersey is not there yet. He'll get there eventually, but right now he's looking for something very specific, and really only those who know and truly understand the arrogance and specificity of what he's looking for (and in my perspective that means, ideally, having grown up in the region, or at the very least having spent many, many years living there), will be able to help.

                                                                      For another poster, looking for something in the ballpark might scratch the itch-- my search for Beijing mustard cabbage did just that. (What I got here was fine, but not as great as what I had in China). But I know this personality type because I was that personality, and I'm trying to help him in the way that I would have wanted to have been helped 10-15 years ago.

                                                                      In the meantime, I'm happy as pie to eat a Joe's plain slice, a Joe's Sicilian slice, and wander off bloated and happy into the palm trees.

                                                                      Mr Taster

                                                                      1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                        I do think there is a value in threads other than to the OP, though, and the OP may find value in this thread nonetheless. A Jersey slice probably doesn't exist in LA (though I would point out that the OP asked for a New York Slice - I haven't lived in Jersey, but I have lived in NY - what's the difference?) but the hounds here have minutely dissected and described pretty much every pizza joint from the Pacific Ocean to the Inland Empire. If a future CH reader comes upon this thread, they'll get a good overview of what's available where, and if the OP decides that he's willing to settle for something not quite, he can pick and choose from the areas where he's willing to compromise.

                                                                        1. re: Savour

                                                                          Folks, threads drift, and that's okay, but this one is drifting pretty far away from anything to do with food at this point. We'd ask that everyone let this discussion about whether people should or shouldn't be posting in this thread go. Everyone who has a pizza experience they think is relevant is welcome to share it -- not all of them will be precisely on point, but that's okay.

                                                                          Thanks.

                                                              1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                OP already said Joe's doesn't meet the requirements, alas.

                                                                1. re: Jack Flash

                                                                  Maybe a Joe's, or a Vito's, pie will extra mozzarella will work for him/her. The grease-and-cheese-soaking-into-the-flimsy-crust factor should be present.

                                                                  1. re: Jack Flash

                                                                    OP is wrong.

                                                                    I've eaten my share of crappy flappy NYC pies to know that Joe's in Hollywood is as close to that as you're going to get in LA.

                                                                    To me, a "big, floppy, greasy, cheesy New York style slice" (as the OP describes) is what you get at 2 Bros. in NYC, and for better or worse, the slices at Joe's comes pretty fucking close.

                                                                    1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                      Ipse, only the Joe's on Sunset Plaza in West Hollywood right, not the Sm location or the one in the Century City shopping center ?

                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                        I've only been to the one in WeHo.

                                                                      2. re: ipsedixit

                                                                        Fuck it, just take a trip down to San Diego to Bronx pizza.

                                                                  2. Give Brownstone in Eagle Rock a try.

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                                                                    1. re: schrutefarms

                                                                      I thought Brownstone was way worse than Casa Bianca.

                                                                      But then again I am a CB fan.

                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                        i kinda thought brownstone wasn't bad. different than casa bianca, but good.

                                                                        1. re: linus

                                                                          Brownstone is pretty good (with the added plus that they deliver) but it's not NY style. They put cornmeal on the crust which changes the whole experience.

                                                                          Nonna's in South Pas isn't bad but it's inconsistent. I've had great pies from them and very mediocre ones.

                                                                      1. re: bringiton

                                                                        I like it. It's greasy thin, and you can fold that shit.

                                                                        yet, it seems to me to be a faux - faux - faux facsimile of the greasy crap in NYC.

                                                                        Though I do really like the vanilla layer cake slices at Mulberry.

                                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                                          While we are digressing on Mulberry, they have a very good chopped salad that is similar to La Scala, but better and half the price.

                                                                          1. re: Thor123

                                                                            essentially 10 bucks for 2 one topping slices is a ripoff tho -- but i like the pie. they have a nice eggplant sub and meatball sub too. they're going to love the red sox fans today

                                                                            1. re: jessejames

                                                                              we all love sox fans, what's not to love ?????

                                                                              i haven't tried the eggplant hero at Mulberry just yet though it sounds great.

                                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                                that is a yankee spot, tons of yankee gear, daily news/post...at least we all agree arod sucks!

                                                                                1. re: jessejames

                                                                                  Is it? I'll just ignore that, then. I'm 3 times in one decade, 2013 World Series Champions Boston Red Sox fan. With worst to first manager of the year, John Farrell, regardless of what the moron writers think. And Boston pizza has more character, unlike the pie shop on every corner NYC cluster fluck. lol

                                                                        2. re: bringiton

                                                                          Yeah, I am from NJ myself, and Mulberry Street Pizza comes the closest to what I know of east coast pizza, even though the slices aren't as large. I too think the OP is looking for something that doesn't exist. After living here over a decade, I've learned to take west coast pizza on its own terms & appreciate the standouts like Stella Barra.

                                                                          1. re: katydid13

                                                                            Stella Barra has KILLER cookies too!!

                                                                            1. re: gr8pimpin

                                                                              I just picked up a few of their cookies to take to the movies. A salted chocolate chip and a ginger cookie. The salted chocolate chip was waaaayyy too much. Too rich, to sweet, too salty. The ginger, however, was one of the best cookies I've ever had. It was like a spiced molassas cookie, perfect amount of chew, so good. Oh, and both cookies were HUGE.

                                                                              1. re: schrutefarms

                                                                                Agreed about the the salted chocolate chip; never had the ginger but after your comment I'm gonna try it.

                                                                                The apple oatmeal and peanut butter are awesome! The chocolate chip is decadent.

                                                                                I usually get 3 or 4 types and split them up for a bunch of us to share.

                                                                        3. Big mama & papas = big floppy and greasy.

                                                                          That's not my idea of an ideal NY style slice.

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                                                                          1. re: ns1

                                                                            isn't big mama and papas the place that has katchapouri (sic?) though?
                                                                            they're not too bad there.

                                                                            1. re: linus

                                                                              dunno, went back for pizza wasn't my cup of tea so never went back

                                                                              but i mean, it's big, greasy, and floppy:

                                                                              http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/big-ma...

                                                                              1. re: ns1

                                                                                i think i've had their pizza, and looking at that pic, it appears the pizza has that charming styrofoamy quality a lot of the pizza crust around here has.

                                                                          2. Valentino's in Manhattan Beach and El Segundo fit your description perfectly.

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                                                                            1. re: wienermobile

                                                                              Hmm, never been unless they are related to the OC Valentino's in which case I will have to skip them.

                                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                                No relations to the OC Valentino's at all.

                                                                            2. When is Grimaldi's supposed to open in El Segundo?

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                                                                              1. re: bringiton

                                                                                Drove by last night and the interior is still empty. Looks like next year.

                                                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                                                    Most likely the end of the next millennium.

                                                                                  2. re: bringiton

                                                                                    Grimaldi's is not what the OP is looking for.

                                                                                    Mr Taster

                                                                                  3. A Slice of New York in Seal Beach

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                                                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                                                      As a former New Yorker, I can tell you that Kevin is correct.

                                                                                      A Slice of New York Pizza is above average authentic NY pizza.

                                                                                      This place is also authentic although not as good.
                                                                                      http://www.yelp.com/biz/pizzarito-hun...

                                                                                    2. No disrespect intended, but I suspect most people who have posted so far on this page have missed the essence of what the OP is looking for. I could be mistaken, but, having moved here from New York City myself, it seems to me the OP longs for a very average, run-of-the-mill NYC comfort-food slice. I’m also fairly certain he wants something closer to The One and Only Original Ray’s Pizza than to Joe’s. I don’t think he’s looking for something that is in any way comparable to that which Chowhounds commonly and legitimately consider to be NYC’s very best, e.g., Grimaldi's or John’s of Bleecker Street. Those pizzas are sensational, but they’ve also helped propagate a myth about what NY pizza ubiquitously is. I believe what the OP seems to miss in LA is what can easily be found on just about any street in NYC - and, to be honest, most people on this page would probably think it’s a helluva lot more gourmand than gourmet. Frankly, the pizza at Costco’s food court is probably much closer to the mark of what the OP desires than the lion’s share of what’s been suggested here. Just take a look at the picture the OP posted.

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                                                                                      1. re: Arthur

                                                                                        The Costco pizza looks like NY pizza but believe me it doesn't taste like NY pizza. It's ok pizza for the price, but the crust and the fat content of the cheese are all wrong.

                                                                                        1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                          To me, the biggest differences are Costco's pizza is too bland and not drippy/greasy.

                                                                                        2. re: Arthur

                                                                                          The OP has not answered questions posed for clarification. I suspect he was looking for something like Ray's, but he hasn't answered.

                                                                                          1. re: Ogawak

                                                                                            True, the OP has not followed up, but he did paint a pretty clear picture of what he wants and included a photo. Seems obvious to me that his main criteria are that the slice be extremely large and drowning in greasy cheese. Unfortunately, most of the suggestions on this page don’t fit that bill.

                                                                                          2. re: Arthur

                                                                                            That's exactly why I recommended big mama and papas. It's big greasy and floppy. Vito's it is most certainly not.

                                                                                            1. re: Arthur

                                                                                              The OP is looking for a Jersey slice. Look at the pic.... there's so much cheese on that thing it's virtually sloshing out of the box. You can get these slices along the Jersey shore and in neighborhood pizzerias around the Garden State.

                                                                                              Mr Taster

                                                                                            2. You might try Two Boots...especially after a show at the Echo it feels a little like New York to me.

                                                                                              1. Indeed Arthur hits the nail on the head. I'm looking for a comfort food slice, not "the best in the world" sort of stuff that a place like Grimaldi's has. Something like a Famiglia's in NY, just something really simple, run of the mill, the kind of thing I can walk into any pizzeria on any street in Manhattan and get. You're right in a sense that a super cheap place like a Costco might have that right floppy texture, but the ingredient quality doesn't really measure up to the taste of a solid NY pizza.

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                                                                                                1. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                  Hit up Joe Peeps and call it a day.

                                                                                                  Or just wait until you fly out again.

                                                                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                                                                    You gots to get the blue collar. Thin. Otherwise - suffering.

                                                                                                    1. re: happybaker

                                                                                                      If you don't get the Blue Collar one, you'll give yourself a hernia carrying it out. The damned thing has to weigh in at 10 pounds but, you'd have to look hard to find a better pie.

                                                                                                  2. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                    I've had - and loved Ray's. For a simple yet excellent slice.

                                                                                                    If you can, try a slice from Brownstone, in Eagle Rock. Nice.

                                                                                                    1. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                      Did you try the extra thin crust at Rocco's on Wilshire? You have to order it specially, but it's not as doughy as LA's default pizza.

                                                                                                    2. And as wiernermobile put it, I agree exactly: "The Costco pizza looks like NY pizza but believe me it doesn't taste like NY pizza. It's ok pizza for the price, but the crust and the fat content of the cheese are all wrong."

                                                                                                      It's a combination of texture and taste. Vito's has the texture but the combination of cheeses is a little off to me. Same with Joe's, the tomato sauce to cheese ratio is way too high (though it is decent).

                                                                                                      A place like 800 degrees or Casa Bianca is exactly the opposite of what I'm looking for. As I've said, I like stuff at the places like that, but I'm looking for a plain old, comfort food slice that I wouldn't be embarrassed to sell in Manhattan but isn't at the gourmet level of a Di Fara's or Grimaldi's or John's of Bleeker Street.

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                                                                                                      1. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                        And to be clear also, I did like all the places I mentioned, Vito's, Joe's, etc, it's just that I always left feeling like it wasn't quite that taste of home I've been craving, for various reasons such as those I described above.

                                                                                                        1. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                          You do know that Vito is from Elizabeth, NJ, right? Just ask him to make a sloshy slice with extra cheese and see what happens.

                                                                                                          Mr Taster

                                                                                                          1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                                                            Mr. Taster,
                                                                                                            Thank you.
                                                                                                            Finally, someone understands.
                                                                                                            I will try exactly that.

                                                                                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                                                              Way back in this was my suggestion:

                                                                                                              " Ciao Bob Oct 31, 2013 01:37 AM
                                                                                                              Maybe a Joe's, or a Vito's, pie will extra mozzarella will work for him/her. The grease-and-cheese-soaking-into-the-flimsy-crust factor should be present."

                                                                                                              Ciao Bob from White Plains, New York

                                                                                                              1. re: Ciao Bob

                                                                                                                Not that anybody is keeping track of these things.... ;)

                                                                                                                1. re: Ciao Bob

                                                                                                                  I saw that... not sure why he didn't acknowledge your post, unless he was responding collectively to my diatribes elsewhere on this post.

                                                                                                                  Mr Taster

                                                                                                                  1. re: Ciao Bob

                                                                                                                    nope, i just skim these threads. or else how's a fucking hound going to get any work done ????

                                                                                                              2. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                                To paraphrase something I heard or read somewhere:

                                                                                                                "You're not in Kansas anymore."

                                                                                                                1. re: ipsedixit

                                                                                                                  Ips - that's true.

                                                                                                                  But I grew up with a Brooklyn Dad that would take us back to NYC for slices - and then show us what he felt was acceptable in our neck of the woods. And when the last good place shut down - he started making his own - and it was AWESOME.

                                                                                                                  Using his parameters, when in Central CA decades ago, I called around and found a place that had been blessed by the Pope - and had awesome pizza.

                                                                                                                  Okay, actually, I made my soon to be husband call when we were traveling and I had a pizza craving, before the internet. "Okay, here's what you do You call and ask what kind of crust they have. Most places will say "We have thick, we have thin. What do you want?" Or "It's pizza What?!" When you find the place that says "Thin, what else is there? Then and only then, have we found our place."

                                                                                                                  It was awesome. And killer, fresh fried cannoli's too.

                                                                                                                  So you my point is, you may not alway be able to be in Kansas. But if you hunt hard and smart enough, you can find the parts of Kansas you need : )

                                                                                                                  1. re: happybaker

                                                                                                                    What was the name of the place in the Central Valley ?????

                                                                                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                      Kevin - I wish I could remember the name - I can't. It wasn't in Santa Maria, the downtown, we had to drive at least 10, maybe 20 minutes to get there.

                                                                                                                      Pretty small, decorated kind of old fashioned - but the food was amazing.

                                                                                                                2. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                                  Last time I was in Manhattan, I was walking up 5th Avenue and turned right into a side street pizza shop. I got the most delicious slice, just as you described. I have no idea what street I was on, I just remember asking the guy for a slice and a Coke. Heaven! As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the closest thing I've found in LA is Brooklyn Pizza. My friend from Bayside-Queens agrees. It's our pizza slice of choice.

                                                                                                                  1. re: Kate is always hungry

                                                                                                                    Brooklyn Pizza is the closest I have found to NYC pizza, as well. I can't speak to only ordering a slice, but their whole pizzas are as close to the real deal as can be.

                                                                                                                    1. re: Jelly71

                                                                                                                      I've been eating at Brooklyn Pizza for maybe 15 years or more--slices and whole pies. It is definitely the closest thing to NYC pizza. There was a restaurant on La Brea, years ago, Di Vita's that was really good but they're long gone.

                                                                                                                3. For some more detail, I did try Petrillo's as well but found it too thick, as was Joe Peeps'.

                                                                                                                  Places I liked in NY a lot: the aforementioned Famiglia's, Koronet's, the original Joe's, Sal and Carmine's, V & T's. Or of course the divine gold standard, Pinocchio's in Boston. But at the end of the day, I just want a plain old run of the mill slice that I could sell in Manhattan without feeling embarrassed and without trying to be a gourmet place.

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                                                                                                                  1. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                                    You won't find it in LA. The places you thought weren't quite right are the closest that we have got i.e. Vito's and Joes.

                                                                                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                      I agree with you 100%, Kevin. Since he likes it floppy, I thought of Vito's first. Thought I died and went to heaven when Joe's started opening up out here.

                                                                                                                    2. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                                      Captain, I’m curious what you thought of Lamonica’s, which I’ve long felt is the best representation of a standard, average NYC pizza joint to be found in LA (and the only one to make a recommendable Sicilian-style slice). Was your problem with Lamonica’s the relatively puny size of the slices sold at the counter, or was it something else?

                                                                                                                      1. re: Arthur

                                                                                                                        Lamonicas was pretty solid and I thought it was probably the best of the places I've tried so far. I remember thinking the slices were a bit too rigid and crisp and didn't quite have the "give" or floppiness I think a good pizza crust and base should have. Maybe it's just me being extra picky because good slices are so hard to find here; as i said it was certainly really good and the best I've tried yet.

                                                                                                                        1. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                                          Have you tried Frankie and Johnnies...close to what you want

                                                                                                                          1. re: Ciao Bob

                                                                                                                            I would agree. Better than Mulberry too.

                                                                                                                          2. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                                            I like Lamonica's a lot but some times the pies are over cooked or the slices sit to long before being served.

                                                                                                                        2. re: CaptainKoloth

                                                                                                                          go to grecos. there's a bunch of them. probably the closest to what you're looking for.

                                                                                                                        3. My girl and her son lived in NYC for 10 years the closest we have found is Santino's in Sherman Oaks. In fact, she ate there 4 days in a row after I took her there the first time, LOL!

                                                                                                                          This may not be your deal either because she happens to think Grimaldi's is the closest she's had outside the city.

                                                                                                                          Get it sliced in 8 pieces.

                                                                                                                          1. Has anyone tried the cheese pizza at Omar's in Arcadia?

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                                                                                                                            1. re: dette

                                                                                                                              Nope. Never even heard of it.

                                                                                                                              Please tell me more.

                                                                                                                              1. Have you tried Nicky D's in Silver Lake? The only pizza I've had from there was a white clam pie, which scratched my itch for new haven style pizza. But he does wood fired, and it was certainly large, cheesy and greasy slices.

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                                                                                                                                1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                  I had heard that Nicky D's and Miceli's were the only places to get a clam pie in the area but never got a chance to try them and now that I live in Vegas, it doesn't do me much good. So far, nobody here makes 'em.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: mucho gordo

                                                                                                                                    vegas ??????????? i thought you were still in the valley if memory serves me. oh, well there s a lot that's great to eat in LV.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                      We moved here April of 2012 and yes, there's a lot of great food here but there's also a lack of some things such as a deli or bakery equal to Brent's or Bea's. There are many great places to eat that are off the strip. If you're ever up this way, let me know.
                                                                                                                                      BTW, speaking of deli's, I heard that Art's has closed. Is it true? Do you ever eat at Mom's on Vanowen?

                                                                                                                                      1. re: mucho gordo

                                                                                                                                        I used to eat at Mom's on Vanowen, quite frequently (though that was still a few years back, too many new cue joints have opened up around town) though I still have quite a soft spot for Mom's. And her homemade version of Duncan Hines style cakes and cheap too, late time i was there it was around $1.75 per slice, now it's probably $2. to $2.25 per slice.

                                                                                                                                        And Art's I don't know. I think it's still open and his family is operating it on his behalf, and his son or sons managed and operated it the last few years while Art was still alive so I don't think his passing closed the joint. But not sure about that. Maybe I'll check back.

                                                                                                                                        Gordo, where you the one that also liked, at least for the Valley, Gia Cucina Napoletana ???

                                                                                                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                          Yes, I'm a fan of Gia Cucina. It's a little crowded and noisy at times but the food and service are fantastic, My first time there I didn't see my favorite shrimp fra diavolo on the menu so I asked the waiter about it. He checked with the chef and was told it wouldn't be any problem to make it for me. It was perfect and I've been a fan ever since.
                                                                                                                                          I was a regular at Mom's and got to know the people well. Then, all of a sudden, I don't come in anymore. I didn't get a chance to stop in and tell them I was moving and to thank them for the great food and for being so nice.

                                                                                                                                        2. re: mucho gordo

                                                                                                                                          If you are talking about Art's Deli http://www.artsdeli.com/ in Studio City they are open as usual and if you're in town they're open till 9 tonight.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: Servorg

                                                                                                                                            I had heard that they may have closed but, apparently, they're still open. Thanks for confirming.

                                                                                                                                      2. re: mucho gordo

                                                                                                                                        Here is a link on clam pizza. Although if you are in LV it doesnt help much.

                                                                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9025...

                                                                                                                                        1. re: mucho gordo

                                                                                                                                          There's a Los a newish chain in Culver City that lists a clam and pork pie, though I haven't tried it..... They have a sourdough crust, and I'm pretty sure that might ruin it for me....

                                                                                                                                        2. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                          Nicky D's is definitely greasy, floppy, and thin.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: ns1

                                                                                                                                            That's what I thought too, but only had one experience there.

                                                                                                                                        3. Central Park Pizza in Burbank is good, thin crust, and kind of greasy. As you can see it is very hard to find good NY pizza in LA. and as someone said before Greco's is close as well. Good luck and tell us what you find.

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                                                                                                                                          1. re: Jack Burton

                                                                                                                                            I had Central Park Pizza once... they poured their cheese out of a milk carton shaped container.

                                                                                                                                            Mr Taster

                                                                                                                                          2. Tony's Pizza in San Marino? It's big and floppy, but it doesn't have nearly as much cheese as the pizza in your pic does....

                                                                                                                                            1. I did a little forensic digging and it looks like that slice of pizza in your photo is, in fact, from Valentino's in Manhattan Beach. ("Home of the Heart Shaped Pizza"). See? The boxes match.

                                                                                                                                              http://eveolution514.wordpress.com/20...

                                                                                                                                              So what's wrong with Valentino's? I've never been there, so I can't comment. I've never seen a sloshy slice that that elsewhere in CA, but I remember having them back east.

                                                                                                                                              Mr Taster

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                                                                                                                                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                                                                                                Thee's a joint in Upland that i haven't been to and can't remember the name that might serve slices in the Ny style vein ????

                                                                                                                                                Can't remember the name though.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: Mr Taster

                                                                                                                                                  I cannot speak for the pizza, which looks Tri-Sate Legit, but one thing assuredly wrong with Valentino's is their grammar, as in the proper use of homophones:
                                                                                                                                                  "Dough: Very thin sliced with a crispy, flaky crust with a thin layer of flower sprinkled on the at the bottom."

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Ciao Bob

                                                                                                                                                    Shit, I have no clue what a fucking homophone is

                                                                                                                                                    but

                                                                                                                                                    "on the at the bottom" seems wrong to me as well as "a thin layer of flower" oh, they mean flour, not flower.

                                                                                                                                                    Would these be NYer errors in grammar, if so, then perhaps that's a very very very very good sign.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                                                                                                                      Correct kevin, you have found the troublesome homophone: flower-flour.
                                                                                                                                                      I think "on the at the" is just poor editing. But, hey, it is just website...not something that millions might view...

                                                                                                                                                2. San Biagio's in Upland. Haven't tried it though.

                                                                                                                                                  And surprisingly no one mentioned it yet, though that may have to do with it being terrible which is why it wasn't rec'd.

                                                                                                                                                  http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/san-bi...

                                                                                                                                                  1. You're asking for NY pie in LA. Like you said "it ain't" NY, and that's cause you ain't there. It's like looking for authentic Italian food some where other than Italy. I say enjoy the many interpretations of pizza the west coast has to offer and when you want NY pizza, go to NY.

                                                                                                                                                    1. I gotta say that Big Daddy and Son's on the Venice Beach boardwalk is worth a try. I get nothing at this place except a slice, I know nothing about the rest of the menu. Their slices are fresh, large, foldable and very east coast.