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What's the one can't miss restaurant in New Orleans ???? If you only had one night for dinner.

kevin Oct 30, 2013 11:48 AM

Here are joints that I've enjoyed in the past, but if anything new is on the scene please let me know:

Brigtsen's (beyond loved it for the roasted duck with tart dried cherry sauce and mashed potatoes, and the Ponchatoula strawberry shortcake, anything else great on the menu, what are your rec's here ?)

Kpaul's. (really liked it for his eponymous blackened fish as well as the coconut cake).

Brennan's (maybe it's no longer around, I haven't been in a while)


Dick and Jenny's.

Pascale's Manale.

Emeril's in the warehouse district.

August (which I didn't really like, go figure)

Fiorella's (I really liked the fried chicken here).

Acme Oyster House and Felix Oyster House (both were way way way overrated in my opinion).

Cafe du Monde, of course.

Crabby Jack's in Jefferson Parish (loved the drum fish in a hollandaise butter sauce and the shredded duck po boy and the barq's in the bottle, for some reason, i can't seem to get barq's in the bottle most anywhere).

Also is Rene Bistrot still around, or Stella or Stanley's, or Buster Holmes ???


One more thing is Mosca's worth the drive from NOLA and is it still good to go there if we will be having an all seafood/shellfish meal there ????

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    kevin Nov 14, 2013 05:09 PM

    As a followup note, what do you guys, Bill, hazelhurst, etc. think of Kpaul's ?

    And do you guys even like acme or felix ?

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    1. re: kevin
      Gizmo56 Nov 15, 2013 12:50 AM

      Felix over Acme, Casamento's over both.

      1. re: Gizmo56
        hazelhurst Nov 15, 2013 06:19 AM

        I agree 100%. I will say that, although I have my problems with the New Corporate Acme, they have been getting some good oysters and what with Felix's problems recently who knows what is going on there? I preferred each of them when they were just little shacks in the Quarter..
        When Casamentos decides to franchise we know it is All over.

        re; K-Paul request, there is nothing wrong with it although it ads up in a hurry. But when I want Cajun stuff I do it myself or drive to a friend's house over there. [On a related thought, I can do a fine trout meuniere at home or oysters Rockefeller and my Bienville--which is a take off on the NOLA Junior League's Plantation Parade Cookbook version--has been known to interrupt monks at their devotions...but I often go out to eat these things because I am not setup to clean things up as well as a restaurant is. But Cajun stuff, as a rule, is not terribly involved.]

    2. girloftheworld Nov 14, 2013 04:57 PM

      bernnans is gone
      if you did not like August (I am hesitant because it is one ofmy all time favourite place in the world)

      but then I wasnt wild about Stella( omit punctuation)

      Oysters at Dragos

      I think Court of Two Sisters jazz brunch

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      1. re: girloftheworld
        kevin Nov 14, 2013 05:08 PM

        Yeah, I've never been to the Court of Two Sisters, I always just thought of it as a tourist trap.

        1. re: kevin
          girloftheworld Nov 14, 2013 05:39 PM

          as opossed to Comander's and Galatoire's ? which I amuse myself by imagining their walk in filled with pull out drawers like those "make it and take it" meals for a week place soccer moms go to... but instead of chicken pot luck... it has all of their classic meals ready to go tobe placed on the pretty famous china for the tourist

          1. re: girloftheworld
            montuori Nov 14, 2013 06:01 PM

            That might be true of Commander's brunch (indeed ... it might be true of brunch anywhere) but McPhail & co. put their hearts into the dinner service. I've been really wow'ed a couple of times this past year on the quality of the cooking and the way "experimental" has been balanced with "restraint."

            (I realize you might well be kidding, of course, but your image meshes nicely with the one I have of CP pouring 25 cent "martinis" out of an industrial vat.)

            Speaking of (well kinda'), and wrapping back around to something that already came up in this thread: is there anyone in town using honest to god block ice in their drinks? In Boston, NYC, SF you need eye protection at the bar to protect from the flying shards; seems like hasn't taken hold yet in NO. A shame too because there's a ready supply of excellent ice (it's used for snoballs ... close, and lovely on a hot day, but not quite the same).

            1. re: montuori
              girloftheworld Nov 14, 2013 06:04 PM

              McPhail and co I will put it on the list for the december venture..but I dont think until he has his own place will he ever really be able to show what he can do as a chef... because there is the "old dame" looking over his shoulder

              1. re: montuori
                kevin Nov 14, 2013 06:11 PM

                McPhail & co. ???????

                Please describe further.

                I've never heard of it.

                1. re: kevin
                  girloftheworld Nov 14, 2013 06:29 PM

                  Troy McPhail is the excutive chef he and his "company" the cooks and such that work for him have been trying to dust off Comandersa little bit. However, when you have a restrauntthat is built on tradition it is hard to find the balance of new and old.

                  1. re: girloftheworld
                    Gizmo56 Nov 15, 2013 12:49 AM


                    Your posts serve up a Palin-esque word salad that have taken some time for me to decode. Now that the unencryption process is complete (to the best of my ability at least), I will take exception to some of the points you have made.

                    You've tossed Commander's Palace and Galatoire's into the same culinary basket. Galatoire's has a focus squarely on traditional Creole cuisine, whereas CP has had a procession of great chefs who have contributed their own dishes to the menu. There a few constant Louisiana standards like the gumbo and turtle soup, and a few constant dishes that the restaurant innovated, like shrimp and tasso hennican, and many entrees that are based on fresh ideas that rotate in and out. CP actually IS "the balance of new and old."

                    The chef's name is Tory McPhail (not Troy), and I doubt he feels the least constrained by the "old dame," as you put it.

                    And I think it is odd to portray either Galatoire's or CP as tourist traps that don't have steady patronage from the local community, doing the equivalent of dishing up pre-fab meals.

                    New Orleans retains a small circle of restaurants that provide classic old school Creole cuisine. The city is also loaded with culinary innovation. It is possible to both walk and chew gum and the same time. And what is great about NOLA is that it does both in a grand way.

                    1. re: Gizmo56
                      girloftheworld Nov 15, 2013 05:05 AM

                      "That might be true of Commander's brunch (indeed ... it might be true of brunch anywhere) but McPhail & co. put their hearts into the dinner service."

                      I was responding to another post upthread-
                      which leadto the confusionof another poster
                      which lead to my explanation and typo

                      perhaps it isnt so much as my "Palinasic" post as your cliff note reading of thread ?

                      However,points for your verbose ditribe.

                      wish I could write more but I have cheerleading this morning

                      1. re: Gizmo56
                        hazelhurst Nov 15, 2013 07:32 AM

                        Personally, I think your "verbose ditribe" makes sense.

                        1. re: Gizmo56
                          kibbles Nov 15, 2013 11:57 AM

                          well said, gizmo.

                          1. re: Gizmo56
                            Bill Hunt Nov 15, 2013 07:07 PM

                            I would agree that neither CP, or Galatoire's is a "tourist trap," by any stretch, and also agree that they are "must-do" restaurants.

                            Now, on my fairly recent visits, my personal nod goes to Galatoire's, but there IS a difference between the two. CP has rather let us down over the last decade, but not THAT badly - just not what we once thought that we knew.

                            Even with the "slips" at CP, I would not hesitate to recommend either restaurant, and try to explain why both were on my list.


                    2. re: girloftheworld
                      kibbles Nov 15, 2013 11:54 AM

                      while there are tourists at Commander's and Galatoire's, in my mind what separates them from tourist traps such as Two Sisters is the presence of locals as well. i dont know anyone here who goes to Two Sisters willfully. this cannot be said of Commander's or Galatoire's, of course.

                      1. re: kibbles
                        Christine Nov 15, 2013 12:28 PM

                        kibbles, i hope you are including Muriel's in your list of places locals don't go because it was one degree above abysmal. although locals may not frequent court of two sisters, it is not a "bad" place to dine for us poor tourists, especially, as i said, if you have tried all the other old grande dames of dining. the courtyard itself is by far the best in the quarter and truly magical at night.

                        1. re: Christine
                          kibbles Nov 15, 2013 05:10 PM

                          We don't find that the grand dames wow with their cooking. IMO the best food in town is neither the grand dames nor the tourist hotspots.

                          I'm not thrilled by Muriel's but do know some locals that enjoy it. to each their own, I suppose.

                          I like Amelie's courtyard, myself.

                          1. re: kibbles
                            Christine Nov 26, 2013 11:30 AM

                            hey kibbles, do you like the food at Amelie's? What would you liken it to? Yes, it is on our list of places to try, although I understand their courtyard is much smaller and more cozy and intimate than Court of Two Sisters, correct?

                        2. re: kibbles
                          Bill Hunt Nov 15, 2013 07:21 PM

                          Let us all face some facts - New Orleans IS a "tourist" city. That is the truth, good, or bad. Tourists flock to New Orleans, and many are seeking great cuisine. After all, that is one of the things that New Orleans is known for - around the globe.

                          When one gets beyond the great "neighborhood places," they are likely to encounter tourists - god forbid! Now, as I no longer live in New Orleans, I am one of those, a "tourist," but still seek out the ultimate New Orleans dining experiences and New Orleans cuisine. You are free to stone me for that, if you wish.

                          What would some ask, that CH's pan the great restaurants, just so that "tourists" do no dine there? I cannot do that, as I want each to be available to me, on my next trip to New Orleans.

                          CP and Galatoire's are different restaurants, though both share a history. They both offer great "local" cuisine, in elegant settings, served by professionals. Different, but very good at what they do.


                          1. re: Bill Hunt
                            kibbles Nov 16, 2013 05:58 AM

                            no ones questioning that this is a tourist town. what I was referring to were tourist hot spots, the sort Two Sisters is -- a place nearly entirely patronized by tourists, and with little food reputation among locals. this is in contrast to G and CP. but neither environment are where I believe the best food lies.

                        3. re: girloftheworld
                          Steve Green Nov 15, 2013 08:28 PM

                          g.o.t.w. said: "...I amuse myself by imagining their walk in filled with pull out drawers like those "make it and take it" meals for a week place soccer moms go to... but instead of chicken pot luck... it has all of their classic meals ready to go tobe placed on the pretty famous china for the tourist"

                          Heh. I envision tanks of hollandaise and bearnaise mounted up high in the kitchen, with hoses coming down to nozzles at prep level -- sort of like the oil dispensers at JiffyLube.

                        4. re: kevin
                          Christine Nov 15, 2013 06:27 AM

                          hey, kevin, we thought of it the same way, but after 4 trips to NOLA and in honor of my recently deceased aunt, we thought we'd give it a try this time and were very pleasantly surprised. always good to have medium expectations exceeded. the food was great, believe it or not (at least the night we were there), and the beautiful courtyard is truly something to be experienced and def lives up to the hype about it. is court of two sisters a must? no, but it's definitely not a must miss either, especially if you've been to many of the other top notch restaurants in the quarter, or city for that matter. i'll tell you one thing: it was leaps and bounds better than Muriel's in every way. That was our experience...YMMV.

                          1. re: Christine
                            shanefink Nov 15, 2013 07:59 PM

                            Now you have me curious. I never even realized they had anything other than a brunch buffet. Shows my ignorance. What did you get at Court of Two Sisters. Tell us about the exprience. I liked the courtyard when I took my daughter there a few years back, but everything else about the brunch missed the mark.

                            1. re: shanefink
                              Christine Nov 26, 2013 08:33 AM

                              shane, i just copied and pasted what i wrote from our trip report in september '13:

                              Thursday dinner reservations at Court of Two Sisters: many others on this board have slammed this place, but we were pleasantly surprised and thoroughly enjoyed this restaurant. Not only is their courtyard the most magical place on earth at night (no offense to Disneyworld), but the food was quite good. My aunt, who sadly passed away in August, always asked me if we’d dined at COTS every time we’ve been to New Orleans, and I always had to tell her no, thinking it was truly a tourist trap and not good. I regret now we didn’t go there sooner so I could tell her just how good we thought it was. DH chose from the We Live to Eat offerings and had the Fried Green Tomato with Shrimp Remoulade, the Shrimp, Crab, and Crawfish Etoufee’, and Key Lime Pie for dessert. Since I was burned out on seafood by this time (I am a Midwestern girl after all), I was craving a great steak, and their 8-oz. filet mignon did not disappoint, cooked to a perfect medium rare, and served with tasty mashed potatoes and onion rings. We also had two Court of Two Sisters house salads. For dessert, the Chocolate Mousse was calling my name. Scrumptious! Drinks were one Sazerac and the house Chardonnay for hubby, and two Bloody Marys for me. Service was very competent. I’m in agreement with Tom Fitzmorris on this one: Court of Two Sisters is definitely worth a try. Just because it's a "tourist trap" doesn't mean it's horrible. Based on our experience at both, COTS blew Muriel's away on all aspects.

                              1. re: Christine
                                shanefink Nov 27, 2013 09:23 AM

                                I thought the service would be disastrious as it is during brunch when they have servers literally bumping into each other.

                                1. re: shanefink
                                  Christine Nov 27, 2013 09:51 AM

                                  No, it was not like that at all. In fact, our server came up with a solution for our shaky table on the uneven courtyard bricks by placing one or two cardboard coasters under one of the table legs for us. Problem solved. Again I say.. our server at COTS was much more smooth and competent than the one we had at Muriel's. And of the two, I'd be much more inclined to return to Court of 2 Sisters than Muriel's based upon our experiences at both. I understand others' experiences vary.

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                        kevin Nov 13, 2013 12:51 PM

                        And quite interesting stuff on freezer bill.

                        Very very very interesting.

                        1. PotatoHouse Nov 7, 2013 06:42 PM

                          Coop's Place across the street from Margaritaville. The BEST Jambalaya in the Quarter. Rabbit and Sausage Jambalaya and when you tell them you want it Supreme they add Tasso, shrimp, and crawfish!!

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                            shanefink Nov 1, 2013 03:21 PM

                            I think it’s a pretty simple question. I have to say that Commander’s Palace is the one restaurant everyone should visit. It’s such a beautiful setting, the service is usually spot on and the food ranges from very good to spectacular.

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                            1. re: shanefink
                              Bill Hunt Nov 7, 2013 06:39 PM

                              Considering my last 4 visits to CP, I would have put Galatoire's there, instead, but that is very personal.


                              1. re: Bill Hunt
                                kevin Nov 7, 2013 10:07 PM

                                Bill, you like Galatoires in comparison to Commander's Palace or just in general ?

                                1. re: kevin
                                  Bill Hunt Nov 10, 2013 06:12 PM

                                  Personally, they were both at the very top of our list, but then we had several major mis-steps by CP's. They fell a notch, in our book. Then, we hosted two meals there, and nothing seemed to be working well for them - the food, the service, nothing. Even their vaunted Turtle Soup was just not as good, and Ralph's on the Park took that crown.

                                  Also, we are not really Martini fans, so that hook does not work with us.

                                  It has now been about 3 years, so we probably need to go back, just to check things out, yet again.

                                  So far, Galatoire's has never "dropped the ball," at least for us. That is why I so often list it as MY "top NOLA restaurant."


                                  1. re: Bill Hunt
                                    kevin Nov 12, 2013 05:53 PM

                                    And I still have yet to make a visit to Galatoire's especially for it's vaunted Friday lunches.

                                    1. re: kevin
                                      Bill Hunt Nov 12, 2013 06:12 PM

                                      Now THAT is a "must-do." You probably only have to do it once, like Mardi Gras, but it should be on the "bucket list."

                                      Having "been there - done that," is one reason that I now most often go with reservations, and dine upstairs for dinner. Unless my guests just want to stand in line, and experience downstairs (again for dinner), I usually just make it easy on myself nowadays. Hazelhurst still does downstairs, and blends beautifully into the tableau, but my time is usually much more limited, and, I am no longer a local. Is there a difference? Absolutely, but not regarding the service, or the food - just the setting, and if one has not done downstairs (Friday lunch, or dinner any night), they really should, at least once. Often, the line is short and moves quickly!



                                      1. re: Bill Hunt
                                        kevin Nov 12, 2013 06:14 PM

                                        So what really make the Friday lunch downstairs Friday lunch ?

                                        1. re: kevin
                                          Bill Hunt Nov 12, 2013 06:51 PM

                                          OK, here is my take:

                                          Friday lunch at Galatoire's is rather an event. Many of the tables are filled with local professionals, and celebrities (such as media folk, politicians, famous business folk), and there is a "show," with patrons passing, table-to-table, seeking recognition, votes, donations, or something else. The media people are looking to be seen. Some others, are looking for that, plus also looking to see if one of their donors, or benefactors is dining with "the competition."

                                          A visitor from Chicago, would likely not know ANY of the "players," but would pick up on the fact that a "show," or a "tableau," if you please, is taking place, all around them. Now, they MAY encounter a Hollywood star, or a musician, who they recognize, but many of the "locals" will likely go unrecognized. I mean, would you recognize Sen. Mary Landrieu, or Sen. David Vitter, if they were seated next to you? Some locals would, but few tourists would be able to figure out what the buzz was all about.

                                          Downstairs, Friday Lunch is about the show. Many things are happening in the downstairs dining room, though some might well be missed - still, it's a show.


                                          1. re: Bill Hunt
                                            kevin Nov 12, 2013 07:04 PM

                                            Fornication in the shaded corners too, perhaps ? :)

                                            Cool. The show is the thing. So I will have to go for a Friday lunch for my inaugural run in with Galatoire's.

                                            And never in a million years would I recognize those politicians unless they had some sort of national notoriety in the near future.

                                            1. re: kevin
                                              Gizmo56 Nov 13, 2013 12:14 AM

                                              Yes. For the visitor, it is not about recognizing important people. Friday lunch at G's is about a tradition of the city's society easing into the weekend in grand celebration. The room is loaded with New Orleans energy, personality, and table-hopping fun.

                                              1. re: Gizmo56
                                                Christine Nov 13, 2013 12:34 PM

                                                Having only recently dined at Galatoire's for Friday lunch and having no past experience to compare it, my takeaway was exactly as you described it, Gizmo: loaded with energy, personality, and table-hopping fun, New Orleans style. Even though it may now lack its past elan and esprit, as hazelhurst attests, I still must thank him (hazelhurst) for advice on the best way to approach Galatoire's Friday lunch, because it paid off in spades....a whole lotta fun!

                                                1. re: Christine
                                                  kevin Nov 13, 2013 12:41 PM

                                                  What was hazelhurst's advice on approaching it ?

                                                2. re: Gizmo56
                                                  collardman Nov 14, 2013 11:52 AM

                                                  Galatoire's is just about the last bastion of "easing into the weekend". Once upon a time the entire CBD had it's hangouts, for every business type and others for the strata within the business. That is, upper management could be found at A, middle management at B and clerical at C.

                                                  It was very difficult for an outsider to get anything done after about 1130 on Friday. But if you could get someone in the office and you had some stroke, the office knew where to "find" who you needed. But those were the days before mobile phones.

                                                  Many of those "watering holes" are now gone, displaced by the footprint of chain hotels.

                                                  1. re: collardman
                                                    hazelhurst Nov 14, 2013 12:15 PM

                                                    And there was the time when young attorneys would check themselves out of the office to go to the Supreme Court library which was then, as it is again, on Royal Street. A now-dead attorney at Phelps told me the two most important people in a young lawyer's life were the receptionist at the firm and the Court librarian. If they liked you, then the receptionist would call the Court when Old Man So-and-So left the office with the list of lawyers signed out to do research. She'd give the librarian the heads-up and, if you were on the Good List, runners would be sent out to Brennan's, the Napoleon House, Pat O'Brien's..you name it. "He's on the way!" was the urgent message. I was told that the Johnstown Flood was a drizzle compared to the flood of lawyers surging towards the Court library, smoking cover-up-the-booze-breath cigars with desperation.

                                                    1. re: hazelhurst
                                                      kevin Nov 14, 2013 02:31 PM

                                                      Those were the days.

                                                      The days that I seemingly missed.

                                                      Oh, they would pretend that one, as a young lawyer, were going to the library but instead, and in reality, you were hitting up the watering holes, and restaurants and such ?????

                                                      Thanks for the clarification if possible.

                                                    2. re: collardman
                                                      kevin Nov 14, 2013 02:29 PM

                                                      This makes me despondent, depressed, and dispaired.

                                                  2. re: kevin
                                                    Uncle Bob Nov 13, 2013 10:03 AM

                                                    <<<And never in a million years would I recognize those politicians unless they had some sort of national notoriety in the near future.>>>>

                                                    Stay tuned! ~~ Don't touch that dial!!

                                                    1. re: Uncle Bob
                                                      hazelhurst Nov 13, 2013 10:38 AM

                                                      Sadly, the present crop lacks esperit and elan. A mostly pedestrian lot. No Rick Tonrys; not even a "Freezer Bill."

                                                      1. re: hazelhurst
                                                        kevin Nov 13, 2013 12:26 PM

                                                        Can you please desribe further what you mean by a "pedestrian lot" ?

                                                        And hazel i'm still waiting on that hole in the wall, shack/joint off the 90 hwy, you can email me at your leisure, but if not, no worries, still dying to know. :)

                                                        And btw, does anyone still remember Buster Holmes on Burgundy St, any memories, nostalgia, etc ?????


                                                        1. re: kevin
                                                          hazelhurst Nov 13, 2013 12:42 PM

                                                          As I said, they (the politicians) are by-and-large a blow-dried lot these days, suitable for evening news in Anytown USA instead of our usual collection of "colorful clowns." And the corruption we see is usually ordinary. We like the little details: some years ago we had politicians who'd taken bribes..frequently. As it developed, it was a crime in the State to offer and to give a bribe...but it was not a crime to accept one. And they used to throw wonderful insults at each other, e.g. Earl Long's remark about his Attorney General: "Want to hide something from Jack Gremiliion? PUT IT IN A LAW BOOK!" And then the high ranked official whose family had treatement centers and also had a coroner who'd lock people up and get government money for their stay. Pretty fun stuff.

                                                          As to lunch, hell, if you want to try Friday start with a grand goute--after about an hour of martinis---and maybe a turtle soup(it varies a good bit but is never bad). Volume is heavy on Friday so stuffed eggplant might be problematic. Perhaps Crabmeat Yvonne. Crabmeat Canape Lorenzo isaalways good. The Godchaux Salad never disappoints. I like to play with sweetbreads, too. And if I am lazy, lamb chops with their béarnaise sauce, which is the best in town. Coffee is also best in town. Wines you'll have to check for yourself. I never have dessert but will have the flan once in awhile. As a boy I ate Crepes Maison a lot but have not had that in at least 15 years.

                                                          And yes, I remember Buster Holmes VERY well. Used to eat there a couple of times a week as a rule.

                                                          1. re: hazelhurst
                                                            kevin Nov 13, 2013 12:48 PM

                                                            cool, the now departed johnny apple used to sing the praises of the fried eggplant with confectioner's sugar (?) and pommes souffles and crabmeat maison and shrimp remoulade ? those worth a try too ?

                                                            Besides martinis, should i be hitting up sazeracs, or old fashioneds there, or pimm's cups ? or just stick with four or five martini's

                                                            and i loved that quote aboout the AG, i'm curious why politics in La. is so rife with utter corruption, cronyism, and chicanery ? any clue why to someone (me) who is not a native ????

                                                            Thanks man.

                                                            1. re: kevin
                                                              hazelhurst Nov 13, 2013 12:59 PM

                                                              The goute will give you the remoulade and the crabmeat (sometimes crawfish) maison. The soufflé potatoes are a great favorite, and the fried eggplant are always fun. Both the potatoes and eggplant sometimes have béarnaise which is a serious overload..

                                                              Sazeracs depend on the waiter: if you can get him to insist the drink be not-too-sweet you are OK. It used to be the waiters made the drinks themselves before the advent of bartenders in the new Regime some years ago. I'd not borhte with Pimms. Old fashioneds are fine but were better when we had real ice (ditto martinis)

                                                              The root of politcal fun is off topic but suffice to say that it is believed our Continental European heritage--as opposed to Good Government Namby-pamby Anglo-Saxon Foundiong Father stuff---is at the base of it.. See the Huey Long biography, also "Earl of Louisian,' and "Louisiana Hayride" for a primer.

                                                              1. re: hazelhurst
                                                                kevin Nov 13, 2013 01:02 PM

                                                                Thanks much much much appreciated, along with the historical/political stuff.

                                                                yeah, i'm probably going to overeat there, and they will have to roll me out of the joint.

                                                                thanks again.

                                                          2. re: kevin
                                                            stellawine Nov 29, 2013 05:39 PM

                                                            I "dined" at Buster Holmes scores of times whilst a Tulanian. Cheap & delicious. I developed a life-long affinity for Red Beans & Rice there. A total N'awlins experience. All strata of Quarter denizens were represented there. Hunk of French Bread, a communal bowl of margarine. Full meal under five bucks... Two pieces of perfect Southern Fried Chicken, Beans & Rice. Then off to Pat O's for some glorious Day Drinking. All under ten bucks.

                                                        2. re: Uncle Bob
                                                          kevin Nov 13, 2013 12:24 PM


                                                          But to keep it chowish, what do you guys order at Galatoire's from wine to food to desssert ???? so that I may receive the best meal even on a Friday lunch.

                                                          thanks again.

                                                          1. re: kevin
                                                            LorenzoGA Nov 14, 2013 03:34 PM

                                                            Ask your waiter what he recommends!

                                                            1. re: LorenzoGA
                                                              kevin Nov 14, 2013 03:52 PM

                                                              I've heard that rec before.

                                                              But what does that even mean ? Do the waiters bring you off menu items ? Is that how it works ? So each person gets dishes that are nowhere to be seen on the printed menu ?

                                                              What have you had there after you told the waiter "What do you recommend ?"

                                                              1. re: kevin
                                                                Gizmo56 Nov 14, 2013 04:40 PM

                                                                Many patrons "in the know" place matters into the hands of their waiter. The waiters are "old school," very professional and knowledgeable. They can help guide you through the large menu, and they'll know about any ingredients in the kitchen that are particularly good that day. Usually there will be a brief chat to get a general idea of your likes and dislikes, and then the waiter's guidance will help ensure you have the best possible experience. Hazelhurst often gives the extremely good advice of ordering one course at a time. Relax, take your time, trust your waiter, and enjoy!

                                                                1. re: Gizmo56
                                                                  Christine Nov 15, 2013 06:09 AM

                                                                  EXACTLY! Well said, Gizmo.

                                                        3. re: kevin
                                                          Bill Hunt Nov 14, 2013 07:53 PM

                                                          Well, I never observed such, but then, what do I know?

                                                          The "show" IS the thing, but often, one needs a "program," to know the "players." Even when I lived in New Orleans, I did not recognize the local media (a few exceptions existed), or many of the politicians. Now, I did know many of the "business folk," as we spent evenings with several.

                                                          Now, being but a tourist, I doubt that I would recognize 1:1000, but them, I am no longer a "local," so times are different. That is one reason that I opt for upstairs - I can plan to about a 10 min. window, get great food, excellent service, and am not surrounded by a bunch of "back-slapping psychophants."

                                                          However, many feel that they must do the "mosh pit," of Friday Lunch.


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                                          ndchef Nov 1, 2013 12:45 PM

                                          Bayona is wonderful! And, years ago I liked Mosca's, but a fairly recent visit was totally disappointing in every way.

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                                            LorenzoGA Nov 1, 2013 12:42 PM

                                            Wouldn't the "one can't-miss restaurant if you had only one night for dinner" depend mainly on what you were in the mood for at the time? Seems like the question here is in reality just asking for people to name their favorite restaurants.

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                                              Bill Hunt Nov 7, 2013 06:37 PM

                                              Those were my feelings too, and so glad that I finally read the full thread, before commenting.

                                              Also, what is a "must do" for me, might not even make the "top 5 list" for another.


                                            2. TaTee Oct 31, 2013 01:08 PM

                                              I'm a big fan of Mariza in the Rice Mill Lofts in Bywater.

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                                                NJlovesNOLA Oct 30, 2013 06:12 PM

                                                Fiorella's fried chicken isn't what it used to be. That was always our first stop for lunch after unloading our luggage at the hotel. We couldn't get enough of that crispy moist deliciousness until 2 years ago- it was so bland and tasteless that we didn't bother finishing it. If you like fried pickles, Fiorella's are magical! I would skip the fried chicken though.

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                                                  TaTee Oct 31, 2013 12:24 PM

                                                  Had Fiorella's fried chicken for the first time last Sunday after the Saint's game. It was spicy and delicious. Did not try the pickles, will do that next time.

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                                                    NJlovesNOLA Oct 31, 2013 01:01 PM

                                                    That's good to hear. Maybe they changed cooks or went back to their old recipe. I'll be looking forward to trying it again then!!

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                                                  alex1018 Oct 30, 2013 01:08 PM

                                                  So, for what it's worth, Herbsaint, Cochon, and Lilette were all complete misses for us. (Herbsaint was decent, but certainly not "can't miss".) Lilette, in particular, was disgusting.

                                                  I agree with coquette, even though it's not super fancy or expensive. We had a *great* meal there. They have a wonderful wine list, interesting food, great service, and a great atmosphere.

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                                                    uptownlibrarian Oct 30, 2013 01:23 PM

                                                    Would you mind elaborating on your disgusting experience at Lilette?

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                                                      alex1018 Oct 31, 2013 07:30 AM

                                                      nearly every choice was a protein with a vegetable and a starch. Some dishes, the vegetables and starches were teh same. On each, the proteins were poorly cooked, and the veggies and starches lacked seasoning, and anything interesting.

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                                                        hazelhurst Oct 31, 2013 08:02 AM

                                                        I suppose I could work up some complaints---but nothing I have had there has ever been "disgusting." I'd say "irritating" but that is true of lots of places here and elsewhere, the result of a "style" that seems to be pushed on "chefs" from some Invisible Force, like the Ego--or it that the "Id?"-- in "Forbidden Planet." I'd be interested in just what protein was poorly cooked and how so? The same vegetables and starches don't pose a problem for me. I always expect to add butter or hot sauce or something anyway.

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                                                          alex1018 Oct 31, 2013 09:51 AM

                                                          it was in march.. i don't remember which proteins, to be honest. Suffice it to say "all of them".

                                                          The cocktails were awesome though.

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                                                          kibbles Nov 4, 2013 10:29 AM

                                                          boring veggies doesnt sound "disgusting" to me. curious what they did to your proteins that they were disgusting?

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                                                            hazelhurst Nov 4, 2013 10:30 AM

                                                            That's what I was wondering...

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                                                              kevin Nov 4, 2013 10:53 AM

                                                              the veggies and mashed potatoes served at Brigtsen's may be boring but i loved every bit of it.

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                                                        bhoward Nov 4, 2013 06:36 PM

                                                        I assume the term "disgusting" is hyperbole. Of the thousands of dining experiences I have had many were unpleasant but I do not remember one that was disgusting. And certainly not at a restaurant of the quality of Lilette.

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                                                          alex1018 Nov 5, 2013 05:40 AM

                                                          right, i mean, jeez guys. Sarcasm on the internet....

                                                          the proteins were over cooked and gristly. the PREPARATIONS OF THE VEGETABLES were boring. It was like overcooked chicken, with overcooked mixed vegetables. It was moderately better than plane food, but the same concept. The service was rushed and unfriendly. It was a terrible meal.

                                                          The drinks were great.

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                                                        piglet3000 Oct 30, 2013 01:00 PM

                                                        I'd vote for Coquette for dinner for a high brow experience. Stunning food, beautiful atmosphere.
                                                        For local flavor, I never miss a visit to Liuzza's on Bienville.

                                                        I made one visit to Mosca's and it was dreadful. This was a few years ago, and may have been an off night but I would never go back. When I think of our experience and then read other takes on it, it's almost hard to imagine it's the same place! Everything was nearly burnt, nothing tasted remotely fresh, chicken swimming in grease. Ugh!

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                                                          sanglier Oct 30, 2013 11:55 AM

                                                          Rene in transition phase from the Marriott Renaissance to the JW Marriott on Canal Street. Stella and Stanley around still, Buster Holmes not. Mosca's too me is almost unbearable, my system can't handle that much garlic in one sitting. But for those without that affliction, I'm sure it's worth the drive. My can't miss dinner if I only had one choice is Herbsaint.

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                                                            kevin Oct 30, 2013 11:56 AM

                                                            Thanks. Herbsaint is the Donald Link place ??? Maybe I mixed up chefs.

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